Panoptix LiveScope - Everything You Need to Know

This video takes a look deeper into Garmin's new sonar technology Panoptix LiveScope!
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0:15 What is Panoptix LiveScope
1:03 Screen Orientation
2:28 How to Read Panoptix LiveScope
2:46 How to Set the Gain
3:14 Depth Range Settings
3:45 Sonar Transmit
4:06 Color Scheme Options
4:22 Color Gain Settings
4:48 What is Bottom Fill?
5:05 Grid Overlay
5:25 Scroll History
5:55 Sonar Trails
7:42 Noise Rejection and TVG Settings
7:59 Overlay Data
8:13 Installation
8:37 What is Garmin AHRS?
9:32 Panoptix Compass Calibration
9:45 Focus
10:31 Restore Defaults
10:52 Basic Panoptix Settings
11:32 Basic Down Settings
12:30 Watch Fish Swim with LiveScope
12:49 LiveScope Installation Info
13:36 LiveScope Trolling Motor Compatibility
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[@InDepthSonar]

Interested in the new LiveScope Perspective mode take at look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnSchqd5rNimoac

[@davidbarbee1276]

Just a bit of info from a professional pilot on AHRS. It is a self-contained reference system for stabilization information. They work in 3 axis, exactly the same way our older physical gyros worked. They not only use accelerometer to detect rotational motion in the horizontal axis (compass), they also detect motion in the pitch and yaw axis not just cardinal direction.

[@johnnydee_fishing]

Very nice video. It is great to see the different options instead of trying to figure it out in the manual. I will definitely save this video for future reference.

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad you liked it John! Thank you

[@davidvick1078]

I agree, this video was much appreciated and I too will use as a reference

[@jefffleck5196]

Haven't upgraded my locators in quite awhile. This is on my short list for this winter dang nice vid thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

It's so amazing how far technology has come...even in just the last 10 years!

[@jefffleck5196]

For sure this technology will change the game. I can't wait to see one in person and try it out.

[@shanerust6969]

thank you for the in depth explainations!

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jimjohnson4312]

*Looks good even in daylight **enjoyable.fishing** recommend it was exactly what it was described to be , works awesome , overall happy with product*

[@Tomc8030]

Thank you! Great video with excellent details.

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ukeplaya1]

Excellent video! Thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

Thank you!

[@brycemilleroutdoors1725]

Your reviews are very helpful and professional. How in the world do u not have more subs!?

[@InDepthSonar]

Thanks a lot! Subs are coming slowly but growing everyday so I can't complain

[@brycemilleroutdoors1725]

Lawren Wetzel Thats awesome. Hey ive got a critical question for u. On my dads walleye boat we have an lowrance hds 7 gen 3 with the totalscan transducer. Tye gps without a module is unbelievable how crisp and responsive it is when you turn. No lag whatsoever. So ive been really interested in buying one and putting on the console of my bass boat and just buying a transducer and switching my dads unit between boats. My question.... does the lowrance elite ti have as good of a gps as the hds? Because its alot cheaper and i could possibly get a 9 inch then. Youve used alot of units so im just wondering if u know about the gps differences. Thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

They both use a 10hz GPS receiver in them. I think a Gen3 and Elite Ti would be compatible. Either way you go though I would recommend using a Point-1 antenna that has the compass in it for the most accurate positioning on your screen.

[@brycemilleroutdoors1725]

Lawren Wetzel Ok cool, thanks for the info!

[@mickemike2148]

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!

[@InDepthSonar]

Thanks for watching!

[@mickemike2148]

@@InDepthSonar I've been a hardcore Lowrance boi since the last iceage, but after having seen this I will upgrade to Garmin.

[@DaleWyman]

Very Helpful!!! Just upgraded from PS22 to Livescope so your video was extremely helpful. Heard that in Nov 2018 a new "ZOOM" feature via software update will be available.

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes I have heard of that as well and looking forward to seeing what its all about!

[@danielrochat5968]

hi thanks for your video it helps me to master my livescope. could you please tell us a little bit more about the option TVG I don't understand what is it for thanks

[@sciencebeartimberwoods7610]

Amazing video! Thanks so much! Now I just need somebody willing to sell me one into germany. It's all sold out everywhere.

[@InDepthSonar]

Looks like another 3-5 weeks in the US as well according to Garmin's website

[@markcloer5821]

Great video!

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@teamslaiyans3808]

I just purchased mine today , can’t wait !!!! I’m like so new to this too 😅😅😅😅😅😅, got any tips/tricks or anything u recommend me doin ?

[@InsideOutSkiing]

Great Video Lawren and knowledgable replies to comments! couple questions. I fish mainly fly ins and like the look of the Quickdraw function and was going to buy a Striker 7SV but after watching your video am wondering if an EchoMap Plus 75sv plus panoptix transducer and Large Ic kit battery provide Quickdraw and LiveScope functionality in a portable unit? 2. would you know if you can create maps with Quickdraw whilst using sonar when fishing/trolling?

[@InDepthSonar]

Thanks for your kind words...I do what I can and try to reply to every comment! Yes you could do that with the EMP75SV. Quickdraw works best at trolling speeds to map accuracy. The Striker is a good unit if you just want a basic fish finder, but I would say go for the echomap Plus if you can. Even if you don't get the LiveScope right away, you can always add it down the road!

[@excursionkingfisher]

Nice video. I was wondering if livescope would be a good option to fish for walleye on the St-Lawrence river ? Lots of current and big tides. Continuous back trolling. Also just bought 2 ECHOMAP 95sv plus with the CV52HW-TM transducer. What is the difference between the GT52 transducer? Finally would that be a good setup? Thanks.

[@InDepthSonar]

CV52 doesn't have down imaging in it. It takes the inside of the side imaging beams to create a down imaging image. The GT52 has a dedicated down imaging element in it, so you get true down imaging. That would be a great setup for the LiveScope, just get the GMS10 as well to allow you to plug in the LiveScope to your Network

[@FRANKRICECOLD209]

Nice Thank You

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad you liked it :) Thanks for checking it out

[@Fitter877]

Lauren, thinking of picking up 3 Echomap Plus 93sv units. what do i need to network everything together so i can share info to all units. Thinking of the UHD-52 tm with the black box.Also Should i get one unit with the supplied transducer for high speed and 2 units with no Transducer. Great video. Thank you

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes I would get the standard transducer as well because that'll get you CHIRP 2D sonar for high speed

[@jamesgignac6300]

Great review!! I’m looking forward to gen 2 of active to see if they can come up with eliminating the black box and transducer software

[@larsvegas1505]

Im still waiting on them making this stuff affordable.. like i can get better hardware (like tablet hardware for 20% of the cost) Id rather buy a 300 dollar ipad and mount it then buy a 1200 dollar 9'' screen thats not even in HD res.. and has slow processing.. Also spend a extra 2k on transducer hardware is also a bit much.. they should just make open software.. and make the ducer stream the signal via bluetooth to any phone/device.. Its like these companies are too small to make the tech that is atleast on a level with the stuff that is out there already.. they are always like 10 years behind.. Id love to have panoptix though.. but not for 3K+ euros

[@InDepthSonar]

Prices sure aren't coming down anytime soon. Demand for this stuff is so high right now.

[@travissaulters5646]

Are you using a plug in ac adapter power cord for this unit in this video since your not in your boat? If so could you tell me where you got it and the part number for it? I can't find one anywhere to fit my 93 93sv plus.

[@InDepthSonar]

I just use a 12 volt battery.

[@jameszachow2277]

hey man, thank you for your video. a few questions. I troll often at speeds of 3 mph most of the time. is that an issue? i also verticle jig at 150' often, im curious if you will be able to see a 3oz jig that far down? i will have to mount the ducer to the transom, so im curious if that negatively impacts the livescope sysem? is it easy to adjust ducer from foreward to down?

[@InDepthSonar]

Trolling won't be the best with LiveScope of you are reverse mounting it. It would be better to use the wider angle, less detail, PS30 for that. A 3oz jig in 150' should be fine on the LiveScope

[@jb5676]

Thanks for the info. I have a boat in Canada for summer freshwater fishing and one in Florida for winter saltwater fishing. Both with MinnKota Ulterra motors. Is this system something I can easily switch seasonally from one boat to another?? And would you mount the transducer on the Ulterras?? BTW, when you talk about forward scan, I guess it's in whatever direction your trolling motor is pointing?? If you put it in anchor mode, it will move side to side quite a bit, which means, your forward viewpoint changes continuously??

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes it is all relative to the position your motor is facing. Some people will mount the transducer on a secondary pole they can manually move to not have to deal with the problems you mentioned with spotlock. I personally wouldn't mount a transducer on an Ulterra due to the risk of damaging the cable when it stows/deploys but you may be able to come up with something to help reduce this risk

[@lealmcmullenjr.5649]

Hello Lawren, Contemplating getting a livescope unit. How do you like the Echo map uhd 93sv and the livescope transducer GLS 10 with LVS 32 combination? I can live with the 9" monitor. Any suggestions?

[@InDepthSonar]

I would really try to get into the GPSMAP series. The echomap are decent units but the resolution isn't as good as a 7608 or a 942 for example. Or the Echomap Ultra 102 has a good resolution screen as well. Either way you go though a EMU93SV with the LiveScope is going to be better than not having LiveScope.

[@ahmet665906]

Thanks for sharing. Great info video . What about salt water performance about 10-15 meters deep ? or more .

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad you liked the video...in those depths it'll work very well. Anything under 150' and without very thick vertical cover like trees or vegetation it will be good.

[@GB-pk2px]

HI Lawren, thanks for the video, it help us a lot.....in your opinion, for the tuna drifting tuna technic, is good? wich range it can be cover in terms of lenght and depth from where it has been installed? thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

It would depend on how deep you are fishing. This is going to work best in water less than 100'

[@jimh444]

Great video. I plan on getting the livescope which is what I plan on using it for mostly. I see you have the gpsmap 7608xsv which has 1028x600 pixels. How would the echomap plus 93sv that is 400x800 pixels compare for the livescope. I know that the 1028x600 is better but Can you really tell too much of a difference in graphics in the fish or would they be the same using the livescope?

[@InDepthSonar]

It's noticable if you have used a 7600 series unit. The resolution and processor speed is the main reason to go to the 7600, but at the cost difference the 7600 is hard to swallow for those two features. Most people I know run the LiveScope on the echomaps and are very happy

[@pablojournet394]

Best video o have see

[@InDepthSonar]

Thank you!

[@stephenanderson1940]

Thank u man

[@InDepthSonar]

Thanks for watching

[@matthewpotter6613]

Hey mate i live in Queensland Australia, would this be any good out on the reef and shoals? Or is it more for shallow water

[@InDepthSonar]

If you are less than 200' then it should be good. But shallower is going to be better.

[@stevehall9059]

I only fish in mostly deep salt water for salmon. Transom mount is my only option. Will I get any benefits over last generation Garmins.

[@InDepthSonar]

You will have much higher detail images, but in all honesty its probably not that much of an upgrade for that style of fishing. If you are fishing structure or more stationary (like in bass fishing) this will have the biggest benefit.

[@henridelage]

VERY HELPFUL,thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad it helped! Thank you

[@henridelage]

any idea of battery needed for 8 hours using Livescope,how many amps

[@InDepthSonar]

It's going to depend on your display size as well, but I would say a 20ah battery should do it in most cases.

[@henridelage]

So the livescope amps consume less than 2amps per hour ???,

[@henridelage]

livescope consume how many amps per hour ??? Thank you again, I am ready to buy a battery …..want to be sure.

[@rumblefish721]

hey Good morning do you think the transducer will fit in the guardian cavity of the new Hobie PA

[@InDepthSonar]

Doubt it but never seen one. Isn't that built for a Lowrance HDI transducer?

[@Z71Ranger]

Great Video... Thank You...

[@InDepthSonar]

You're welcome and glad you found it helpful

[@jerryharrell1231]

What is the forward looking cone angle width ? I see it reaching out plenty far, but how wide a cone does it have ?

[@InDepthSonar]

Beamwidth: 20° x 135° 20 wide

[@s35flyer]

Wondering about tiller boats. 75% of my fishing is from the rear, I think I was told with the transducer on the stern, I can’t switch down or forward view? Why not?

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes you can. Althought I wouldn't recommend transom mounting this transducer. You're better to mount it on a pole that is attached to the transom so you can get it out of the flow of water when you are on plane

[@richardhookedoutdoors2024]

Thanks...

[@InDepthSonar]

You're welcome :)

[@jedifredjacob]

I am from Quebec Canada.The species we fish is the speckled trout, the characteristic of this one is that it is held in less than 30 feet.The main technique to catch it is by trolling with a spoon followed by a hook with a worm. Of course it is quite rare with my Humminbird Mega Live G2N Si to distinguish these specimens even with the traditional sounder because as soon as one approaches them the shadow of the boat makes them flee immediately.In these circumstances if I acquire a Garmin GPSMAP 1222 with Panoptix Livescope System Touchscreen Chartplotter an investment of 4310 $ Canadian that can give me a certain advantage in the capture of this trout

[@InDepthSonar]

@Fred Jacob yes this would help because you could rotate the transducer to try to find the fish when they spook. Just double check the GPSMAP 1222 you are looking at is touchscreen. They make a non touchscreen model as well which is a little cheaper. Unless it's a used one you are looking at $2300 sounds like this might be the non touchscreen

[@alanlister1918]

Hi, very informative vid cheers. I want to use live scope in very shallow water say less than 6 feet and as little as, less than 3 feet on a regular basis. There is not likely to be much weed just a relatively clean bottom. Is it going to be much use and what will my practical forward range at this shallow depth be do you think? Thanks in advance.

[@joh1959jmw]

Alan Lister Hi I just bought a lvs 12 this video will help me set it up. Thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

A clean bottom will be ok, but not the best. I would say this performs best at 8-60'. Deeper or shallower its not going to be as good. I would say in 3' you'd likely get about 25' or so of usable info. But again, that shallow it might be tough to get anything out of it.

[@alanlister1918]

Thanks for that. I tournament fish in Australia for a different species to bass and they are very shallow a lot of the time but also very flighty so it may not help much, cheers appreciate your help @@InDepthSonar

[@mackfrizzle5045]

I plan on buying a Garmin echoMAP Plus 93sv and buying a livescope system. Now does that mean the transducer that come with the Garmin echoMAP Plus 93sv is no longer useful? Because I see that they sell it with the transducer or without.

[@InDepthSonar]

No it is still very useful. You get CHIRP (for high speed use, and vertical fishing), ClearVu which is their Down Imaging (for weedlines and other vertical structure), and SideVu for scanning structure left and right of the boat. The LiveScope will be best for scanning ahead of the boat or to a very specific piece of structure that you are casting to. Its also somewhat going to replace the CHIRP sonar for vertical fishing in the Down mode. You'll want to buy the 93SV with the transducer in my opinion.

[@junebug5644]

So you have to physically rotate the transducer by hand to switch back and forth between forward looking and below the boat??

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes you do

[@dcc1974]

Great walkthrough. I just got one of these, but my screen is a bit different. I have the $2800 ice bundle, so I’m not sure if that’s why the interface differs slightly from yours. I cannot find the micro SD slot anywhere. The manual doesn’t say much either. Any ideas?

[@InDepthSonar]

SD slot will be to the bottom right... It just pulls down. Assuming you have the echomap unit. This is done on an older gpsmap unit which has a slightly different look to the interface but the terms are the same

[@dcc1974]

@@InDepthSonar Thanks for that. Will it be on the viewer, which pops on/off of the part with all the cables and such? I will look later when I get home!

[@InDepthSonar]

It'll be at the bottom below the keys. On the top groove you can get a finger nail in and then pull down. It hinges from the bottom

[@dcc1974]

@@InDepthSonar OK I’m a dummy. I saw that port on day one and thought it was some sort of really small HDMI port or something. Geez. Thanks again!

[@doeeyes394]

Can anyone tell me if the new Garmin panoptics works for deep sea fishing? What is its max depth? Thank you very much! Doe Campbell Southern Texas

[@InDepthSonar]

The max depth for Down and Forward: 200’ (61.0 m)

[@tonywilson3320]

wondering if we can make this portable and if so what battery size will we need..thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes you can. Get the Garmin Large Ice Kit and you're good to go. It comes with a 14ah batter

[@skyiestosunsetrise2886]

Man this device is f****** unbelievable ....who ever created this i personally want to visit them and shake there hand and congratulate them...this device is great i cant wait to get my 15 to 19 foot john boat and get this hooked up....this will turn any level of fisherman into a professional fisherman period....gotta love man...and hey bro EXCELLENT ON HOW U EXPLAINED EVERYTHING 😉😉😉😎😎😎😎.

[@willfara8463]

i cant wait to get my 15 to 19 foot john boat, HAHAHA Either this guy has an adjustable size boat or he is promoting this product trying to look like a viewer

[@InDepthSonar]

No clue who the original poster was but most people buying LiveScope are ice fishermen so boat size has nothing to do with it.

[@hollyondoglake]

I just purchased livescope and connected to a 95sv echomap. Does this configuration automatically switch between forward and down. Thanks for your video

[@InDepthSonar]

You'll have to rotate your transducer and it should change. If not you can do it in the menu. If you disable the AHRS then you'll have to do it manually

[@hollyondoglake]

@@InDepthSonar thanks. The auto down and forward work great.

[@Jerry-xx8dx]

Can you remove the info bar on the right hand side? Does it just slide like lowrances?

[@InDepthSonar]

You cannot swipe it away. It is either on or off. You can move it to the top or bottom of the screen as well

[@DonnyAngler]

This is bad ass. I might wait another year and see what other companies come out with. But wow!

[@InDepthSonar]

Lowrance has announced LiveSight which is the same, but nobody has much info on it yet.

[@DonnyAngler]

@@InDepthSonar Yeah, I saw that. I'm not sure if I should wait for a year and see if they become a lot cheaper. Its pretty new tech so I doubt it will get much cheaper within the next year. I have a few months to make up my mind. Thanks for the reply.

[@randy1ization]

I asked humminbird and they said they have nothing coming soon

[@InDepthSonar]

I saw a picture of the Lowrance LiveSight transducer yesterday. It looks similar to the PS31 from Garmin. So just based on that alone they look a couple years behind Garmin. Garmin has really nailed it with their transducer designs over the last few years

[@InDepthSonar]

Nope...they seem to be sticking with the 360 instead.

[@nickstanislowski8408]

Is there an output or way to record what a person is seeing on this unit?

[@InDepthSonar]

If you want to do it live then you can WiFi to the Garmin app and use it as a second screen. There is also a record option in there so you can record the screen and view it later

[@rosssummerell7999]

Awesome video, What would you suggest the best Garmin unit to be to pair with the livescope transducer?

[@InDepthSonar]

I would recommend a GPSMAP 7600 XSV unit or GPSMAP XS unit. If you are only going to use the unit for the Panoptix then the XS units will be fine. If you are going to use it as the main unit on your boat then I would look at the 7600 XSV units as they will have multiple transducer ports on them for CHIRP, DownVu and SideVu.

[@rosssummerell7999]

Just wanting it up front for the livescope!

[@InDepthSonar]

Yeah, then go with a GPSMAP 742XS, 942XS or 1242XSV Touch. They are all the same, but the first number is the screen size. Also the 1242 will allow you to plug in a all in one transducer with SideVu, where as the 742 and 942 will only allow a CHIRP and DownVu transducer. SideVu requires an external module. So if in the future you want a transducer on it its something to consider

[@rosssummerell7999]

Lawren Wetzel Hey bud, looking at pulling the trigger on getting this set up soon. Have there been any changes since you made this video? Or is the 942xs and livescope transducer still the most cost efficient way to go?

[@InDepthSonar]

You can also get the echomap plus 95 or 93... But I would much rather the 942xs for this. Much better unit in my opinion.

[@CHIPPOFISHING]

Great review. Are more advanced technology coming out next year?

[@InDepthSonar]

Hard to say. Garmin rarely announces anything until its ready for the public to know. Lowrance has something similar to this coming out called LiveSight, but its not going to be as practical as this in my opinion from an installation standpoint. Its hard to say how it will be functionally though at this point because there is so little info on it

[@busterking5895]

how to do you bring up the livescope to your screen ? does it auto pop up when you turn the fishfinder on ?

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes once the LiveScope is plugged in you'll get it. Or you turn the simulation on and that'll bring it up too

[@michaelwilburn5258]

Hi, I had a problem the last time out, I was unable to see my gig. I spent a lot of time on the water try to figure out the problem. Any ideas?

[@InDepthSonar]

That is really hard to say what is happening as it could be so many things. It could be the jig was not in the beam of the transducer, it could be the sensitivity was too low and it wasn't picked up, It could be a weak transducer.

[@michaelwilburn5258]

Wow, I will try adjusting the settings after I complete the download. Thanks again.

[@michaelrogers404]

I have the 93sv will it be as clear view as yours haven't had a chance to use it yet

[@InDepthSonar]

The screen resolution is different in the GPSMAP units so it won't be as crisp an image but it'll be decent

[@skyiestosunsetrise2886]

Honestly this makes everyone a much better fisherman.... All that's left to do is figure out what they will bite.... Everything else is right at your finger tips and u can see everything

[@InDepthSonar]

Agreed! I love the technology

[@chrisbenedict4927]

Lawren, do you know much about a newer version that has came out that i saw at Bass pro shops that is a 93 sv chirp plus that comes with a new version of panoptix/livescope? Would this only be a bass pro shops deal or could you get this anywhere? It was 599.99 for the unit plus a transducer for it for only 499.99. That seems crazy cheap! Lol just wondering why lol or if this is truly a new set up for this unit and transducer?

[@InDepthSonar]

The LVS12 is 30° down and forward vs 135° on the LVS32 (LiveScope with the black box). So I would go for the LiveScope with the LVS32 and black box because you get so much more coverage. Take a look at the screenshot of the LVS12 on Garmin's website and you'll see what I mean. Keep in mind Garmin only lists the GPSMAP 8400 and 8600 series so unless they update the software on the echomap plus units they won't work with the LVS12

[@cliftonbolgiano884]

Echomap plus 93sv will NOT run the LVS 12 transducer. So far only GPSMAP 8000 series and soon to be released Echomap Ultra series is capable of running that particular Livescope transducer (no black box required). The Echomap PLUS (NOT CHIRP) 7 & 9 series WILL run the Panoptix Livescope System which consists of the LVS 32 transducer & GLS 10 Black Box. Regardless of which generation from 2017 to present you have, all of the aforementioned Echomap Plus 7 &9's will run Livescope. Pretty much ALL of the GPSMAP units will run Livescope.

[@InDepthSonar]

Yep that's what we said

[@chipgillikin6082]

Could use some help. Took mine out today for the first time. When in forward mode mine in shooting the radar towards the back of the boat instead of what's in front. In other words if I make a 10ft cast off the bow it wouldn't pick up my lure, but it would once it went under my boat. Yes.....I do have it mounted correctly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@thecrappiecontrol6644]

I think you have the camera backwards on the trolling motor shaft

[@chipgillikin6082]

@@thecrappiecontrol6644 I thought so too, but you can mount it on the port or starboard side of the shaft. Maybe i don't have it angled correctly.

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes and on each side you have to angle it differently. Check the manual to be sure its the right way. I believe there are pictures in there to help

[@toddwaltersfishing8443]

What are your settings set at? I realize this is on simulation mode, but would like to hear some thoughts on settings.

[@InDepthSonar]

They are factory settings with some recommendations in the video on how you can set it up, or what the setting changes will do for you.

[@toddwaltersfishing8443]

@@InDepthSonar did you ever drop it in and see what appears to be a tree right in front of you, even though it is not?

[@InDepthSonar]

Sorry I don't understand what you are asking

[@mikepowell8958]

Will the gt56 transducer have any advantage over the gt54 when used with panoptix?

[@InDepthSonar]

Noting when used with panoptix. But it will offer higher detail and better range on the side imaging over the GT54

[@mikepowell8958]

thanks. I'm fishing in relatively shallow lakes so I guess I'll be happy with the gt54 for the $400 I saved. Could you offer your opinion on which panoptix I should get? The 22 or 31?

[@InDepthSonar]

Yeah it's hard to justify the price difference between the 54 and 56

[@cjmfishing9641]

if I get the live scope transducer and mount on my trolling motor will that transducer shoot regular sonar or just the live scope thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

Just LiveScope. You'll still need a regular transducer. The gt52hw-tm is the best one I've used. The gt22hw is the same but without sidevu

[@cjmfishing9641]

Lawren Wetzel there is a sale one the Garmin echomap plus 94sv it comes with the cv51m would this be a good choice

[@InDepthSonar]

That is a mid band CHIRP transducer so it's going to be better for deeper or saltwater. The gt52 is a high band CHIRP so it's better suited for bass or walleye style fishing. I think it's also about 10" long while the gt52 is 6" long. All that to say it'll work for you, but the gt52 may be a little better. This is especially true on the traditional sonar view

[@InDepthSonar]

Also CV transducers don't have true downvu, the GT transducers have a dedicated downvu element so you'll have much better images with a GT on the down vu portion

[@cjmfishing9641]

Lawren Wetzel what about the gt20

[@ArthurSwails]

How deep is this effective for seeing fish? All the vids I see are 40ft deep or less and look great. But what about like 60-90ft deep for summer striper?

[@InDepthSonar]

We've used it up here in 80' ice fishing for Lake Trout and it's worked well. Over 120' I think would be pushing it to get good detail.

[@TheJimmyjam1958]

So maybe you can answer this. When using Panoptix and you see the fish swimming say 40’ from the boat, are they directly in front of the boat, 30 degrees off of the boat, 90 degrees off to the side of the boat etc.? If the fish are exactly in front of the boat I kinda find fishfinders somewhat useless because fish are gone by the time you throw your lure there and it sinks. Is there any technology that would tell you where exactly in a semicircle where the fish are?

[@InDepthSonar]

This will work the same as a traditional sonar unit. The difference is the transducer is mounted to a pole (or trolling motor) that you can rotate to follow the fish as they swim to get an idea of where they are. Check out my video on the new Perspective mode this has and that will give you your semi ciricle

[@michaellaughead1598]

I have an echomap plus 93sv and a ps21-tr transducer for panoptix. I do not show the panoptix on the home screen. How do I fix that??

[@InDepthSonar]

No reason it wouldn't show if the PS21 has power. Power the PS21 and 93sv, then update the software and if the problems persists call Garmin

[@michaellaughead1598]

@@InDepthSonar I finally resolved it a few days ago. I cleaned the connection cable that goes to the unit. I then ensured it was fully set into the unit when attached. Then the panoptix symbol came on the main screen.

[@mackfrizzle5045]

I have a question, I was just wondering what is the cheapest sonar from Garmin that I can use livescope on? I'm on a budget thank you

[@InDepthSonar]

The least expensive unit that LiveScope will work on is the Echomap Plus 75 (73) cv.

[@ar21angler76]

Lawren Wetzel what unit are you using in this video another question i was seeeing that you can order a garmin unit without the transducer is the livescope its own tranducer or do you need a garmin unit with the original transducer as well

[@InDepthSonar]

This is a GPSMAP 7608xsv. If you order without a transducer you won't get CHIRP sonar, down imaging or side imaging. The LiveScope is a second transducer you will need.

[@ar21angler76]

Lawren Wetzel so you have to run both the livescope sonar and original sonar to get the best results im looking at the 73 plus

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes you do have to run both

[@brent338]

Will it go to 170’ deep in real world? I noticed to forward maxed out at 100’, but it claims 200....

[@InDepthSonar]

Garmin claims 200' on that one for forward and down. I'd say 100' -120' is probably going to be the mac you're going to get good info at.

[@Bullbluegill]

If you are still replying to this post, I have a few questions for you. Looking to get a livescope but I'm not a bass or musky guy and don't use a trolling motor that much. I'd like to get the livescope as my main locator in the back of my boat. I run a tiller and it would be my main unit. Does anyone use it like this? also, can you run a mapping chip in these and use split screen for map and livescope. If so, I could use it for my main locator. I don't have room to run two units in the back. a 12 inch screen would be about my max.

[@InDepthSonar]

I wouldn't recommend LiveScope as your only transducer. The unit you select should also have a CHIRP transducer at minimum. You'll need this for high speed use. The second reason is that the LiveScope transducer would cause a large amount of drag when transom mounted and could be strain on the transducer/mount/hull. You can transom mount them as long as you have a way to lift them out of the flow of water at speed.

[@mikepowell8958]

I have a 93UHD would I get better results with the ps22 or the ps31? Are they the same except for the cone size and the price? Does the ps31 have 3x the width?

[@InDepthSonar]

Neither are like the LiveScope... So I'd go LiveScope. PS22 would be my second choice because it's the same as LiveScope just much lower resolution. PS31 doesn't have much application for me. You get the 3D views but those are extremely low resolution so I don't see the benefit

[@mikepowell8958]

@@InDepthSonar I meant to say the Lvs32 not the 31. So the 32 is much clearer than the 22? or just more coverage? Do you know if the 22 can flipped in to a perspective view?

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes much clearer! You cannot flip the PS22 to do the perspective mode

[@justinhurley8288]

Will this work with a garmin striker 7sv

[@InDepthSonar]

No only EchoMap Plus or higher

[@sbdude52]

I see alot of fish on your videos but it would be nice to see what a walleye looks like so they could be separated from bass or sunfish

[@InDepthSonar]

Walleye will take on longer profiles and bass will be taller profiles.

[@c.s.3746]

What's a ballpark price range on one of these setups? Total cost.

[@InDepthSonar]

$1500 USD plus a unit to display it which would start around $600 USD

[@michaelrogers404]

How do you make it look 20ft behind the boat

[@InDepthSonar]

On the forward setting it does that automatically. The deeper you go the further it will look.

[@abrown2669]

Will livescope work with a ECHOMAP plus 93sv

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes it will. Any echomap Plus bigger than 7" will work

[@cliftonbolgiano884]

most definitely! you can also network with other echomap plus 7 & 9 and soon to be released echomap ultra!

[@arnaudmaye8498]

Hi, quick question. I have the livescope mounted on the back of the boat. In auto, it chooses forward view so I cam see front of the boat. In your video you mention that in order to use down view on the trolling motor you must rotate the transducer. Is it same when the transducer is mounted behind the boat? Thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes you will have to rotate the transducer even when on the back. The auto mode in the unit just detects what position it is in so you don't have to manually change it in the menu. In auto mode, once the unit gets a bottom lock it will automatically change.

[@arnaudmaye8498]

Lawren Wetzel thanks! Just to make sure are you indicating that I should unscrew the sensor and rotate it 180 degrees horizontally and fasten it back in the mount or change the inclination of the transducer until I get a bottom lock?

[@arnaudmaye8498]

Nevermind I cannot rotate it of 180 degrees it is not mechanically possible. I will change the inclination

[@arnaudmaye8498]

Thanks again!

[@InDepthSonar]

I just looked through the install manual again and looks like for transom mount you only have the one orientation. On a trolling motor you can have 3 positions depending if it is mount Port or Starboard and using Forward or Down. For transom mount though they just list the one option.

[@badbrad1564]

Does LiveScope work in muddy water? What about stained water ?

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes it does. The more particles in the water the worse it will be but it would have to be thick mud before it won't work. 1" viability is still going to be no problem for it.

[@epicGTquest]

I fish in Hawaii and would love to use this trolling the dropoffs. Would it spot fish schools ahead of me with any degree of accuracy? Lets say 100 feet out while im trolling at 7 knotts which is standard trolling speed. The ability to move one side or the other to intercept a school would make a huge difference in catch rates.

[@InDepthSonar]

It will work in that application. At that speed though you'll have to react very quickly to what you see on the screen

[@epicGTquest]

@@InDepthSonar Appreciate the response Lawren. I wonder how far ahead it would be useable at those speeds. If at all. The water here is crystal clear though. I wonder what the field of view would be at 50 and 150 feet. How big of a space ahead would I be seeing?? I do have a Saltwater trolling motor mounted but I would think the transom mount would be better but not sure how that would work looking ahead. I have seen quite a few people wondering about this. I subscribed also. You do excellent reviews and really take the time to go deep on it.

[@InDepthSonar]

Thanks for the sub! LiveScope is really designed for moving slower so it probably wouldn't work as designed. I have spoken to Garmin about the transom mount and they recommend installing it in such as way that you can lift it up when on plane as it creates a tremendous amount of drag.

[@epicGTquest]

@@InDepthSonar I would probably put it on my trolling motor then. I can do about 6 knots when moving around areas where Im using it to anchor with the spot lock. Appreciate your reply though. I will have to give this a try as the technology matures. I still would be very curious to see how it does under my boat. Just not sure the 2k plus price tag is worth it to hook a few more fish I can already almost see under the boat. Ive only seen one demo of this being used in saltwater in real life. It could spot a diver in front of the boat 50 feet away and a manta ray. Not exactly precision but I am looking for big fish. Just a bit further away. Hope someone does a demo in the saltwater soon.

[@dennylindsay5989]

What happens to the image when there's waves? I've spent 1000 hours watching videos and no one has used it on the water with waves. Just wondering.

[@InDepthSonar]

Waves will effect it to an extent. If you are using the AHRS then that will compensate for it and won't distort the image much The problem in windy conditions comes with the trolling motor. Imagine you are facing north and the wind is coming right at you. The object you want to look at with Panoptix is to the east. So now you have to move the trolling motor to the right to point the transducer at the object you want to see. This causes you to no longer be able to hold in the wind as you motor is pointing another direction. The problem with Panoptix in windy conditions is more of a boat control issue than anything else

[@kierangrimley6978]

Would this be better than the humminbird helix 12 mega si gn3

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes it would, but you still need to get a SI transducer for this unit and then add the LiveScope. So you'd really want to compare this with a Helix12 MSI and Mega 360. Then you have a good comparison. LiveScope and 360 will both be good in different circumstances

[@kierangrimley6978]

Have you any idea what the side imaging is like on this unit in comparison to the helix mega si, thanks for the help by the way

[@johnnymissfire8464]

How far can you see in shallow water say 10-15' deep.

[@InDepthSonar]

I would say about 60' or so max. You might get a little more but in my experience that has been about max. However, all my experience in that depth there has been a lot of weeds which will hurt the distance it'll go

[@jasony724]

Must just be the chart plotter? Cause my 93sv don’t have that side menu option. Menu option take the livescope away

[@InDepthSonar]

This was done on a GPSMAP unit which uses a different menu than Echomap units

[@airbear9445]

What i would like to know is the performance at 200' out and down.

[@InDepthSonar]

Not going to be great at those depths. I've used it at 120' down and it is noticeably better in shallow water. All the sonar returns are basically compressed the deeper you go on the screen so the detail is less the deeper you go

[@airbear9445]

@@InDepthSonar Thank you Lawren, thats good advice. Keep it up!

[@Oleg-mv7bh]

Hey! How much does it cost

[@InDepthSonar]

$1500

[@mikemarks6562]

How much total

[@InDepthSonar]

$1499 USD

[@robertjensen7487]

How small of a jig can you see in 30 feet of water?

[@InDepthSonar]

You should be able to see a 1/64oz no problem. I've seen videos online of even smaller tungsten ones

[@keithtidwell1277]

My system is saying transducer not found ???

[@InDepthSonar]

Ensure the unit and LiveScope software is up to date, you have good voltage to the unit and module and all connections are seated corrected. Beyond that its probably a defective transducer or module

[@keithtidwell1277]

Thank you

[@billshumaker5695]

Low battery is the normal problem

[@cliftonbolgiano884]

Even if your chart plotter & livescope/LVS 32 or 12 is right out of the box brand new, you will need to update software in both chart plotter & livescope. With Active Captain you can perform the update right off your cellphone using either wifi or cellular data. I fish Toledo Bend (in the boonies between Texas & Louisiana so that makes it especially convenient to be able to use cellular data.

[@tcbridges]

I wish Garmin made a little bigger screen I am spoiled with my Solix 10 and 12 screen at a fait to equal price.

[@InDepthSonar]

The echomap Ultra 10" and 12" are pretty comparable to the Solix 10 and 12 units price wise

[@raymondsolinas6976]

Looks great for freshwater guys..not so much for deep water salt guys who don't have a trolling motor

[@InDepthSonar]

It is designed for bass fishing so yeah not going to be great in saltwater if you don't have a trolling motor.

[@marvinmonk1628]

Wish my Livescope looked nearly as clear as yours. It never does.

[@InDepthSonar]

Something is wrong then. You should see if you can try your unit on a friends boat and vise versa to narrow down the issue

[@Nics574]

Humminbird have an answer to this in the works yet?!?

[@InDepthSonar]

Nope and doesn't sound like they will in 2020 either. They have decided to stick with the 360 imaging platform which has some benefits over the Panoptix.

[@randyn90]

Woul I have a better picture if I hooked my equipment to there on battery

[@mwhack3262]

For those of you that can't fish, there's panoptix!

[@InDepthSonar]

And for those that can fish, they can catch even more with Panoptix

[@warrenlouisiana2277]

Aawsome,,, but I think it way over my head

[@InDepthSonar]

Yeah it is a very cool technology

[@warrenlouisiana2277]

Yes I am getting this in a few days from now,,,

[@ForrestOutdoors]

Very informative, very cool, sub your way, have a great season from Forrest Outdoors. Check us out when you have time.

[@cliftonbolgiano884]

Any idea how wide the view is? For example, if I'm in Livescope Forward view, my grid tells me forward distance & depth, but what is the width of that view?

[@InDepthSonar]

It is 20° wide so you'd have to do the math based on the distance away from the transducer.

[@cliftonbolgiano884]

@@InDepthSonar Perfect! I just subscribed to your channel. Garmin should hire you to do their marketing/technical presentations. Most professional & informative presentations I have come across. Keep up the good work.

[@InDepthSonar]

Thanks for the sub! Got some more Panoptix stuff coming soon....

[@clinte9897]

Wonder if fish can sense this?

[@InDepthSonar]

Pretty unlikely as it doesn't seem to bother them like traditional sonar in the 50-1200kHz range. You'd have to find out what frequency their lateral line senses to determine if it would or not

[@clinte9897]

Watching the videos it doesn’t seem to effect them as much as boat control does.

[@jasony724]

Exactly what I was looking for! Everyone else says review but al that show is fishing? No useful information at all! What is it, set up, features? All the east crap! Other reviews are so stupid

[@InDepthSonar]

Glad you liked it and it helped you out!

[@douganderson436]

Could you possibly squeeze anymore ads into your vids????

[@InDepthSonar]

I could but I try to keep it as low as possible, but still enough to make it worth while. If you'd like to support me directly to reduce the ads there is a link in the description.

[@jedifredjacob]

I am from Quebec Canada.The species we fish is the speckled trout, the characteristic of this one is that it is held in less than 30 feet.The main technique to catch it is by trolling with a spoon followed by a hook with a worm. Of course it is quite rare with my Humminbird Mega Live G2N Si to distinguish these specimens even with the traditional sounder because as soon as one approaches them the shadow of the boat makes them flee immediately.In these circumstances if I acquire a Garmin GPSMAP 1222 with Panoptix Livescope System Touchscreen Chartplotter an investment of 4310 $ Canadian that can give me a certain advantage in the capture of this trout