Panzergrenadier-Division & Motorized Infantry Division 1939/1944

A look at the Panzergrenadier-Division 44 and its predecessor the motorized infantry division from 1939/40. This video looks at the organization of both divisions, their equipment, weapons, manpower and other elements.
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Comparison between the Panzergrenadier Division 44 and a motorized infantry division from 1939. Taking a look at manpower, equipment and organization.
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#Panzergrenadier,#TOE,#Organization

[@Ralphieboy]

This stuff is pure gold for wargamers wanting to organize realistic units.

[@Flow95]

It most certainly has helped me in my ALiVE factions for Arma 3.

[@Sam-tc8ic]

I'm literately watching this to make the 17th PzGr Div

[@projectpitchfork860]

@@Sam-tc8ic Do you mean the 17. Ss-Panzergrenadierdivision „Götz von Belingen“? Since there wasn't a 17. Panzergrenadierdivision in the Wehrmacht. If yes, you should know that the Panzergrenadierdivisionen of the Waffen-SS had 15 instead of 14 (motorized infantey) companies, although that doesn't matter in Hoi4 for example, and an additional machine gun, anti-air and supply batallion.

[@Oscuros]

You can get TOEs and OOBs in "books", that's where I used to get my info for tabletop before there was an internet.

[@angelamagnus6615]

I did this in HOI4 a lot

[@jsma9999]

Thank you for this video. I fell of my seat when you said there only 7 Haft track in Division.

[@gunnar6674]

It's like a parachute division with only 30 parachutes between them - morale naming.

[@smartlp3010]

James m Because...?

[@phillipgollins6616]

james m ooo9 lo oo9

[@Ralphieboy]

Yes, I knew that half tracks were in short supply, but that also surprised me.

[@ottovalkamo1]

School: Social studies test at 9:00 Me at 2:08 in the morning: Panzergrenadierdivision 1944 composition

[@Ralphieboy]

Yes, some people fall asleep counting sheep, I fall asleep counting organizational tables...

[@jayg1438]

your channel is outstanding. I am a history buff an still learn a lot from your channel. well done and subbed.

[@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS]

They tended to leg it unless they had proper support.

[@BigboiiTone]

I find that the more I learn the more I realise I'm still just getting started learning about history

[@BeFlightFilms]

StuG Life

[@bruh5361]

Hetzers gonna hetz

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

BeFlight don't Bren that in here.

[@lugdancarbhael6914]

Go Wespe young man...

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

😂👍🏻

[@munderpool]

I just discovered your site today, and may I say, Bravo! I've been a wargamer since 1972, and read military history since I could read! This information would probably leave the average person staring like a deer in the headlights, but I truly enjoy your work. Thank you.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

thank you!

[@jjab99]

Many thanks for taking the time to make these videos, they are very interesting and informative.

[@gammainc1666]

I've just found your channel, and as a fledgling re-enactor for the 9th 'Hohenstaufen' this is helping me brush up on my history very well. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[@keithmassey3035]

Excellent video! Thanks for sharing this fascinating information.

[@leanbean8962]

this is a awsome vid,your accent is thicker than hitler's mustache but im fine whit that. keep up the great vids man

[@TomTheSiberianHusky]

4:00 I think you meant *sevety-seven* half-tracks - the 1943 figures averaged them at 77 so I'm guessing that's where you got that number from. 15,252 SdKfz 251 halftracks were manufactured *alone* let alone the other variants. Oh, and SUBSCRIBED. I love your informative videos, you answer so many questions I've always had. I think it's great that you are showing us the German perspective as a German yourself having done your research, it's rare to see and thus you're much more credible than others. Danke!

[@douglasmacarthur8482]

Your comment deserves attention

[@woulverine__0118]

minor correction: he's austrian not german

[@terrabeg]

Excellent information, thank you very much!!

[@DC_10]

I was just reading the memoir of General Hoth about the Army Group Center and his 3rd Panzer and having the question on the difference between Motorized division and Panzer division. And here is your video answering my question... :-) thank you!

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

I would highly recommend to not read any memoirs unless you know the subject way better, these memoirs are usually full of errors etc. and thus might lead to many myths. For more information see these videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4XKl2aLfbJ1oLs kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHfSmoiVn9B_ZrM

[@WiiPlayPCToo]

Awesome video! I was wondering if you were planning on making a video about the Winter War. I know you covered it briefly during your original Barbarossa video but I feel it's often overshadowed by WWII and I've always been interested in learning more in depth information about the tactics used and the composition of the division's during the conflict. Thanks!

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

Winter War is probably the most asked topic here, yeah, I will cover it :) but may take a while. (Basically I have no knowledge about it and no sources.)

[@WiiPlayPCToo]

+Military History Visualized Great, I'll look forward to it! I'm sure you'll find a way to slip in a Talvisota-Sabaton reference ;)

[@kyleb308]

Very interesting, you do quite a good job at this my friend! :)

[@TheRomanRuler]

Please do video about Volksgrenadiers, nobody ever seems to remember that they were very different from infantry and Volksturm.

[@etwas013]

Wonderful work, thanks.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

thank you!

[@hellfire6237]

Great video! I was wondering if you are planning to do a video on a Panzerabteilung (oh god I hope I spelled that right) and perhaps a schwere Panzerabteilungen.

[@TalabAlSahra]

I’ve always loved the half tracks.

[@SomeRoofKorean]

Awesome, love this content!

[@sylvainfalquet6350]

could u do a late war heavy tank abietelung (probably spelled that wrong but I think it means group)?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

yeah, definitely planned, already have sources etc.

[@sylvainfalquet6350]

Military History Visualized great! Can't wait 👍

[@johnwong7632]

I believe it's spelled like 'schwere Panzer abteilung'

[@63games39]

awesome

[@ocbee6175]

Panzer not Tank

[@5thgajones698]

Good stuff man

[@MakeMeThinkAgain]

Very interesting about the equipment. I didn't know they were mostly trucks.

[@dirkusmaximus9268]

MakeMeThinkAgain Opel Blitz, and some French BauteLKW

[@dennisweidner288]

@ MakeMeThinkAgain Many of the trucks were seized from occupied Western Europe and not suitable for military operations in the East.

[@Oscuros]

There were schutzen regiments early on too, light green waffenfarbe, we get examples with 5th leichte, also motorised.

[@thecanadiankiwibirb4512]

This was outstanding!

[@theblackmagician758]

PLEASE do more Videos like this for HOI4. I love this SOOOO much!

[@jemb67]

Loving these - vielen dank! However, you say the number of AT guns decreased from '39 to '44. Each of the 6 grenadier battalions had a platoon of 6 in its heavy company, so there were another 36 (and those were 75mm - in the KStN, anyway!)

[@tekis0]

Very informative!

[@Duececoupe]

Liked the video before it even started! 😉👍👌👏

[@PotatoBearRawr]

Super video! Keep them coming :) IIRC then what we call a mechanised NATO infantry division today is comparable to a German WWII panzer division (part of this is because small countries will not have tanks enough to field armoured units at a size, where they can be effective independent strategic fighting units). As it will usually mean all units are at least motorised, one of the largest sub units (depending on size that can be regiment or brigade - American division are sometime 40k+) is considered armoured (fighting vehicles and tanks), and you have about a battalion of tanks. When your armoured divisions are really mech. inf., then it also makes sense to confuse the enemy by referring to your mot. inf. as mech. inf. I also seem to remember that to be classified as a Pz. division late in the war, then you just needed a single armoured unit. The standards for this dropped so much towards the end that a division could be called a Pz division if it had just a 4 tanks platoon. Is this accurate?

[@vladimirmakarovka.ch.7077]

Good content keep going bruhh

[@kovi567]

Are there any sites that show the organization on EVERY level up to division? Like starting with squads, then platoons, companies, etc. for all the unit types in a division.

[@panzerfaust3607]

Very interesting video, as always. So the assault guns were StuG 3s, despite the fact that they were now equipped with AT guns? Were the older models still used in 1944? Was their main task still engaging infantry and fortifications? And with such a large number of them built, how often, if ever, would they replace the basic tank destroyers(I assume Jagdpanzer 4s) in The 1944 MID?

[@dubsy1026]

the long 75 could still fire effective HE

[@Ts5EVER]

Nice, but one little nitpick: the increase in "Maschinenpistolen" in the 44 version was not about additional MP40s, instead they meant the MP44 (later StG44). In late 1944 most German infantry divisions were supposed to get a lot of these.

[@CrazySC833]

I didn't choose the StuG life, StuG life chose me.

[@lets_talk_dinosaurs]

Where do you find the primary sources for information of World War II Military Tactics? So far I have only been able to find Secondary Sources.

[@paxofpayne]

Great work , Sir can u please do one on the NZ 2nd division of world war two , i heard by the end of the war it was the size of a corps.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

thank you, at some point and I probably will, may take a while though.

[@mikeltelleria1831]

were the SPWs upgunned with weapons such as the PzB 41, 37mm pak and 75mm added to panzergrenadier regiments or to special abteilungen of the division?

[@Kanovskiy]

Hi, can you do specialized units like Grossdeutschland? And why you focus in PzGren Div 44 if it was only used for a short time as you say? you should have explained the type 43 more and not just the number of weapons and men but how where they organized in companies, platoons, squads.

[@Ostheim]

Did the Panzer-Grenadier Divisions remain close or the same between 1941-1943?

[@etiennechevalier5615]

Very good work ! Clear and nice use of cognitive tools (colors & icons) Useful to me as I'm creating a board game about WW2. I have a question : There seems to be an official distinction between Assault Guns and Tank Destroyers in the terminology. But as Stug III ausf G were mostly built and not that many StuH 42, were the Stug III both used as AG and TD in reality ? I mean most of the time. Thank you

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

yeah, one could say an assault gun was often also used as a tank destroyer, whereas a tank destroyer was more dedicated. Also in case of Germany, the assault guns were party of the artillery branch namely the assault artillery and not the tank branch. The StuH was the implies was an assault howitzer. You can find more information for that in my video about the assault artillery btw: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qne7i5Z5Zt2NpKs

[@Wien1938]

A point to note is that the third Inf.Rgt (mot.) was removed after the Polish campaign because it was found the Inf.Div(mot.) was too unwieldy and would clog up the road network. So it was reduced to two regiments of three battalions - compare to a 1941 Pz Div. with 2-3 Pz Bns and 4 Inf Bns. The combat/manoeuvre size of both was optimised at 6-7 major units - the recon would often act as an additional unit but the engineers were usually split up to support different battle-groups.

[@ODST6262]

Thank you for answering my question on whether any of the six panzergrenadier battalions had half-tracks. Apparently not. Note that two of the panzergrenadier companies in the reconnaissance battalion order of battle may be wrong. That may be a light wheeled company - on Kubelwagon or Swimmenwagon; a light armored panzergrenadier company using 250/x half-tracks, and a medium armored company using 251/x half-tracks. I don't believe all three were trucked. The heavy weapon company could have 8 81mm mortars in 251/2 or 4 towed 12cm mortars and six 251/9 half-tracks. The assaultgun battalion was a tank battalion but few of the Panzergrenadier Divisions actually received tanks. They were issued assaultguns instead. 3rd Pzgr Div in Italy for example. The six 15cm Infantry guns in each PzGr Regiment could have been towed but more likely were Grillie SP 15cm SIG33. The Pioneer Battalion usually had one company in medium SPW and two trucked. I believe the 18 flamethrowers were all back-pack although there may have been up to six 251/16 in the Panzergrenadier Regiment HQ or in the Pioneer Battalion. The motorcycles in the 1939 division were cut because each Motorized Rifle Regiment plus the Division in 1939 had a motorcycle battalion of infantry. These ended up absorbed into the Armored Reconnaissance Battalion. Too much maintenance, too much fuel, and not really usable on the East Front except in the summer. The remainder were mostly for use as messengers. The difference in AA between 1939 and 1944 was really striking although you might check that. I think the Luftwaffe was required to assign Panzer Divisions a Luftwaffe Flak battalion in the early war years. Possibly the Motorized Infantry Divisions as well. The Army introduced their own Flak battalions in 1942 I think. The 10 armored Sd Kfz 251/17 often seen online and in early books on German SP flak with fold down sides were for the Luftwaffe ground units and only those ten built. Not sure if the HG Panzer Parachute Division received them. Might have been one of the Luftwaffe Field Divisions. The added MP-40 were likely MP-40. The Sturmgewehr 44 were issued mostly to the Volksgrenadier Divisions. Going from 1 SMG per squad to 2 per squad would account for a large number of added MP40 since the motorcycle troops wouldn't have more than 1 per squad and the new reconnaissance battalions 3 companies with 2 per squad. StuG would have one or two each as well.

[@thofmeijer]

Thanks for this video, there is so much 'hear say' and other bollox around on youtube. Its nice to get some facs now and then.

[@DerGoor]

Hallo Herr Kast, wäre es möglich eine aktuelle PzDiv (bspw. PzDiv 1) der BRD mit der PzDiv 45 der WM zu vergleichen? Danke!

[@TheZabbiemaster]

very interesting, when will you discuss tactics?

[@marcinex46]

Will you make video of designing divisions in HOI IV? Cause when I look on your video "Panzergrenadier-Division & Motorized Infantry Division 1939/1944" I have problem to ... well to copy that pattern into HOI IV division designer.

[@Oliolli3]

12:13 He addresses this.

[@0utc4st1985]

How many baguettewerfers was each Panziergrenadier division equipped with? :)

[@tanaymehta4529]

About 1940

[@Ralphieboy]

They were part of the Bakery Company, although later units switched to Pumpernickelwerfer.

[@sethbaines2615]

Can you do the Panzer-Lehr-Division??? Maybe even go over what they specifically used

[@joechang8696]

In the Barbarossa phase, the German armor theory was to penetrate deep and cause disruption with logistics, support infrastructure, and also in the assembly of reserves brought from districts far away. The composition of the armor corps varied in part due to what was available. One example is a corps with 1 Panzer division, 1 motorized division and 1 infantry division. I am thinking the Panzer division should be able to attack and defeat any enemy division, infantry or armor, they encounter, and the infantry division is mostly to occupy the supply route. From your description here, I am thinking the motorized infantry division can defend against an attack by an enemy armor division, but would not be used to attack enemy armor.

[@diehard2705]

Can you do a video on the company scale version of this? How many men would be in a company of Panzergrenadiers and what they did? (Also were the SS panzergrenadier's set up the same way, or were hey organized different?)

[@ODST6262]

SS motorized were set up the same way although they had StuG III (short barreled) in the Division from the first. Six then 18 then 31. Panzergrenadier SS Divisions 1-3 though set up this way in 1943 converted from motorized infantry divisions (with a 31 StuG battalion) also had a Panzer Regiment (2 BN 3 light (Pz III) and 1 medium (Pz IV) plus 1 Tiger I company, the 31 StuG III, a Panzerjager battalion with 2 Coy Marders and 1 of towed Pak. The six Panzergrenadier battalions had one battalion in 251 and the rest trucks. This was 1943 and these were actually Panzer Divisions. The 1944 SS Panzer Divisions were set up this way with the Panzer BN having one BN of Panzer IV/H and one of Panthers. 5th and 12th SS were set up this way. 9th and 10th were supposed to be but their Panzer IV battalions were half StuG III/G and half Pz IV/H and one of them arrived back in Normandy without its Panther battalion. The Panzerjager in 12th SS were Panzerjager IV/L48 by '44. 1st and 2nd SS lost their Tigers but 3rd SS kept theirs. 12th and 1st SS were made SS Panzer Korps I with a Nebelwerfer BN and Tiger BN 101 as Corps troops. SS Panzer Korps II with a Nebelwerfer BN and Tiger BN 102 was formed in '44. SS Panzer Korps III with Tiger BN 503 (SS 101 became SS 501 and SS 102 became SS 502 before Dec 16 '44) was formed in 1945 I think. 5th SS Panzer and FHH Panzer Division I think. Osprey has excellent books on the Panzer Divisions 1939-1940, 1941-1943, and 1944-45 as well as the Panzergrenadier Divisions.

[@kitkat9322]

May I ask where you get these beautiful drawings for your thumbnails?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

made them myself

[@kitkat9322]

Military History Visualized I must say you have beautiful drawing skills then, well done.

[@OkOk-nl5xk]

@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized Can you make a tutorial video on how to make them?

[@remc70]

you should do one on doing paper work and getting the mail up to the front.

[@domintetarus7840]

do you think the SP ART in HOI 4 represents something closer to the Stugs or something like SP heavy arty such as the Wespe and the like?

[@Oliolli3]

More like the Wespe. StuGs are more likely to fall under tank destroyers. Of course, it may depend on the model of SP ART, as light SP ART and heavy SP ART may be very different. At least the pre-named models you can research in the tech tree have the Wespe as being Light SP ART based on the Pz II, and the StuG III is a Medium Tank Destroyer based on the Pz III.

[@ericcook1201]

A number of years ago, I spoke to a US WW2 veteran who said that they didn't fear the Fallschirmjäger so much as the Panzer Grenadiers. So, my question is,other than actual infantry tactics used by the Pz.Gren, what was the actual element within those units that was so effective and, apparently... frightening? Was it due to the amount/placement of mobile artillery? Did they usually have their SP guns and Panzerjäger units ready for (or to cause?) the breakthrough? It seems like all of those but I've never really been able to grasp it due to all the "myths",I guess. Danke!!

[@thurbine2411]

Were all personnel in the infantry regiments combat personnel or were there support personnel for each regiment as well?

[@WildBillCox13]

"StuG Life". Good one, man.

[@raylast3873]

So...what was that observation batallion actually doing and what kind of equipment did they have. Did they get blimps? ;D

[@gamer-bewerter9909]

Kannst du mal bitte ein Video im Allgemeinen darüber machen, wie eine Kompanie, ein Bataillon, Regiment, Division, Trupp usw. aufgebaut sind? Also wie viel Mann so die Einheiten hatten, welcher Rang was geführt hat, und wie die aufgebaut waren, also so wie du es in etwa schon machst(eine Division hat... Bataillone,... Kompanien,... Trupps, keine Ahnung was sonst noch). Ich verstehe das ehrlich gesagt nicht so richtig...

[@hs2ktc]

this guy ROCKS

[@dishchicken]

Did Panzergrenadiers wear different color uniforms than the standard infantry? I ask because I paint 1/35 figures and might get Panzergrenadiers and would like to know hot to paint them.

[@shroder2748]

Military history: shows chart and explains everything Me: *despair*

[@georgeschell4533]

This is an excellent series. The information is great. I am an avid war gamer and model builder. Could you give detailed information on the TO&E of a Armored Artillery Regiment assigned to panzer divisions, for the latter war years? I am mostly interested in the Observation unit. For example: How many PZ Beob Wg Panther V tanks were assigned ? How many SP guns per battery, were there communications vehicles with each battery? Thank you in advance!

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

thank you, well, my organization videos aren't really so successful sadly, but I have two approaches that will bring them back a bit more. About the Observation unit, not sure if I have enough data on it, personally I would be also interested in taking a closer look, but first I got to pay the bills. Hopefully there is something in the Field Artillery book from Bailey(?) or there is something useful in US Field Manual, not sure there is a "Reibert" on this.

[@WildBillCox13]

You might check The Handbook of the German Armored Forces (Indiana university press) for detailed organization data. This reprinted collection of wartime intelligence updates and familiarisations well chronicles the evolution of the Panzeraffe in equipment, training, organization, employment, and over time.

[@MonMalthias]

Would it be possible to do a video comparing WW2 era infantry small unit tactics and organisation between nations? Comparing, say, a German squad against a British section against a Russian squad.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

at some point yes, but first I want to cover at least the basics of one country. Right now the videos are mostly about creating a strong foundation of basic knowledge in order to do more advanced videos like comparisons in the future. After all before 2016 I never looked at a division organization.

[@DS-61-2]

I have a question maybe you can help with, I am building 1/35 scale German Panzergrenadier Company the picture included with model says indicates the HQ Company had 2 Sd.Kfz 250, a BMW motorcycle with side car and 3 zundapp motorcycles. The company has 4 platoons the first 3 are the same the platoon leader 251/10 followed by 3 251/1’s. The last platoon named the heavy armored platoon consist of 1 Sd.kfz 251/3, 2 Sd.Kfz 251/2, and 2 of the 251/1 sporting heavy machine M.G I know by the picture it’s not your typical M.G.42 or 34. So could you shed some light on what the other heavy M.G. Might be, and the Sd.Kfz 250’s for the HQ would those be the 250/3 radio cars? Any insight would be helpful

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

such a detailed question is likely even too much for my Oberst supporters: patreon.com/mhv

[@ODST6262]

HQ were more likely a 250/1 and a 251/3 (radio vehicle) or a 251/1 and 251/3. The 251/3 in the heavy weapons allowed it to be used as an artillery fire direction center for the mortars in the 251/2. Later 2 x 251/9 with 75L24 (the early Mark IV tank guns) were added and they could also be directed in indirect fire although they usually were used as infantry gun support firing direct. The 251/1 heavy machinegun half-tracks are 251/1s. The "s" is for heavy (in German). They had a special mount on them, no MG shield and also carried a second MG34 team with a MG34. They carried two tripods, one for each machinegun so dismounted you get two heavy (WWII term - Medium MG in modern terminology) teams from each half-track. The special mount allowed one of the MG34 from the HMG teams to be mounted on the half-track used as a HMG (modern MMG) from the half-track. The standard MG34 mount behind a gun shield at the front of the passenger compartment was equivalent to a LMG mount. The 251/1s did not have one of these.

[@shogun242424]

Good one. So what is your division setup for HoI4?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

I don't really play right now.

[@shogun242424]

Come on! ;)

[@sarmatiancougar7556]

Sir, can you, please, clarify something? It remains unclear were those assault guns Stug-3 and Stug-4 or have they been replaced with more fitting StuH-42, Brummbär and other assault guns. That's all about classification, because Stug-3 and 4 were classified as sturmgeschutze, though having StuK-40 75mm guns, unlike other assault guns which had howitzers.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

stug 3, the tank destroyers were pz4 chassis. StuK 75mm.

[@sarmatiancougar7556]

+Military History Visualized so, the vast majority of the assault guns were just Stug-3, not the late heavy assault guns?

[@patrickwentz8413]

if you read the Forgotten Soldier he was in a motorized regiment but after 1944 they no longer had trucks so they marched everywhere....

[@Temekin]

I've a question, this 1939 layout would be the one used by the 4 motorized division Germany had by the start of the war, yes? Well, Niehorster has listed manpower and equipment according to the 39/40 mobilization plan here niehorster.org/011_germany/39_organ_army/39_lt-01.html (That's the 1. leichte for an example). What I'm wondering is, why do the numbers vary so much between sources? For instance, you mention that the 39 mot. div. had only 31 SMG's, whereas according to Niehorster the division would have had an average of 198 (I calculated the average between the 4 divisions) SMG's. Who should I trust here if I intend to find out the actual strength of the average motorized division on field by the start of the war? Cheers for the video, never imagined there'd be a source to contradict Niehorster!

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

a light division is NOT a motorized division... wait what? Why bring you in the Leichte Division, when it is not about it at all? Please reformulate your question to exactly what the problem is, because I have no time for second guessing what you actually meant.

[@Temekin]

@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized Ah shit, for some reason I was under the impression that a leichte division meant a motorized division. My bad, now the sources are matching, sorry for wasting your time.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

no worries. Yeah, leichte Divisions are a bit of an annoyance and can be confusing. Usually people count them as Panzer divisions. This would also make sense, since the SMGs were often used in Panzers if I remember correctly.

[@torbai]

How many trucks were there in a panzergrenadier division 1944?

[@jan-alexanderpelz1649]

Es ist kein Mensch, es ist kein Tier, es ist ein deutscher Panzer Grenadier!

[@AqierDesigns]

Jan-Alexander Pelz musst deutscher oder panzer weg lassen damites von den silben her aufgeht. :)

[@tekis0]

Hello: I didn't hear any mention of "Luftwaffe liaison officers" for close air support, or for anti-aircraft duties. Maybe that's in part 2? Thank-you.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

> "Luftwaffe liaison officers" for close air support Not 100 % certain, but as the name indicates, he is from the Luftwaffe, so he would not be organic to the division. At least so far I haven't seen a KStN where one was mentioned.

[@dankuhlman8362]

"667" men in the Supply Units - "Neighbor of the Beast" - well played!

[@luiscorzojr_1814]

How many halftracks were used in operation Barbarossa?

[@Franz-141]

Will you do something about military tactics in future?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

yeah, already did a small part once. (US Army Inf. Battalion)

[@Franz-141]

+Military History Visualized yeah i know that,that is the first video i saw on your channel.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

I assume there will be a tactics or at least defensive position video in the next 2-8 weeks.

[@Franz-141]

+Military History Visualized Cool! Thank you.

[@CAP198462]

Also, frag ich dir, was ist verschiedene zwischen gepanzerte und motorisiert? Ist noch ein alter oder etwas andere?

[@Subparhornet]

Which unit control the trucks carrying the Grenadiers? I don't see a truck company at divisional level.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

the trucks are part of the infantry / rifleman company.

[@Rubashow]

Why is the number of NCOs so high compared to the number of fielded personell? 2600 NCOs on 16000 men is a ratio of 6:1. This appears strange to me. Could you elaborate?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

I don't know that yet, but the number of NCOs increased even more for the 1944 division. The NCOs are the backbone of every army and they know how to implement and lead directly, but so far I haven't read anything particular about this topic, but I will definitely cover that topic in the future. After all questions from Subscribers and my own often provide very interesting topics.

[@Rubashow]

Military History Visualized Looking forward to it.

[@arumatai]

i guess it's because of the high number of vehicles and cannons that would probably have a commander each

[@Treblaine]

NCOs are sergeants and corporals, right? It shouldn't be a surprise that there's a sergeant and corporal in each 8 man squad/section.

[@hjorturerlend]

The squad size of the motorized infantry was 14, later 12, not 8. Two 3-man machine gun teams, a rifle squad/team and NCO. The Germans, wisely, invested a lot into their NCO´s - you could say that superior NCO´s is what kept the Wehrmacht capable for the latter third of the war, reducing the effect of the decreased training of the enlisted men (and boys).

[@FarmingtonS9]

What do you use to create the background animations?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

PowerPoint 2013

[@FarmingtonS9]

very nice work indeed.

[@zhz5178]

Rommel is back and he has a channel

[@matshagglund3550]

It's pretty hard to find statistics of motorized infantry divisions in certain period, for instance early 1944. Then it's difficult to find numbers how much these units actually had tank destroyers and assault guns. I doubt did many of motorized infantry divisions have 31 tank destroyers and 42 assault guns. More likely they had hardly more than half of those numbers even if counting those in work shops.

[@od1452]

How often Were the units at strength?

[@PerfectDeath4]

I recall hearing that the StuGs in panzer grenadier divisions had to stagger their withdraws for reloading ammo because it may shatter the grenadier's moral.

[@StumpyDaPaladin]

Dont forget Many of those infantry squads/platoons didnt always get to the battle on their own truck but rather just hitched a ride sitting on top of their attached StuG (weather/enemy action permitting) And StuG operators didnt mind at all. having some Infantry near by to keep enemy infatry from getting to close with antitank weapons is a good thing. When your unit may end up moving 40 km a day on demand you would get nervous too if your only ride says "i gotta go get more ammo. Dont worry ill be right back..."

[@Scattman101]

Are you gonna do a video on Tiger tanks in the German military? I.e. how they were deployed or how many were used in Divisions etc. Tigers are my favorite thing about ww2 Germany!

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

yes.

[@archeontheeverchosenlordof3633]

that Iron Maiden reference though

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

yeah, I even used the British spelling.

[@andrewmaloney4690]

combat width on these??

[@user-sj9jr5eg4m]

Your german spelling sounds like you are a German yourself. If so you should do a second channel on german..would be a nice gift for the channels over here. Greetings from Mannheim. :)

[@Phunny]

Fucko Yourselfo He's Austrian.

[@veryverymike]

How you would translate this in hoi4?

[@ovejustin]

What is a 1944 PzGren squad equipped with? same 7 rifles, 1 SMG, 1 MG?

[@arminkohler2918]

7 Rifles, 1 SMG, 1 MG Yeah. However one or two soldiers had any mean of anti-tank warfare. Such as an Panzerschreck or a Panzerfaust

[@hjorturerlend]

2 MGs, 1(+) SMG and and 9 rifles. actually. The 1939-1942 ones had 1 SMG, 1 MG, 2 pistols (loader and gunner) and 7 rifles, just like regular infantry. They started to organize the battalions in a manner similar to the Pz. Grenadiers of the panzer divisions in early 42.

[@Ealdorman_of_Mercia]

Germany's divisions consisted of 9k men more or less during the latter part of WW2. They just didn't have enough men, after Russia started to grind them down.

[@malcolmhunt8795]

You should be aware that there would be plenty of deviations to your PzGr outline, as there would any division in the German army. The 25th PzGr division on the 1st April 1945 was authorized to have, 484 officers, 0 Beamten(civilian officials), 2940 NCO's, 11721 men and 0 Hiwi's. In terms of AFV's it was authorized to have 50 Sturmgeschutz, 8 PzKpfw III and 46 PzKpfw V Panther's, but it also had 4 PzKpfw IV's even though they weren't authorized. The Sturmgeshutz were a mixture of 30 x StuG III and 20 StuG IV's. It's difficult to know how many armoured halftracks it had(Sdkfz 251's etc) as on the Zustandberichte it doesn't list individual vehicle types, although it must have been authorized several as the I./Batt PzGr Regt 119 was still an Gepanzerte(Armoured) battalion, the Stab(staff) of the PzGr Regt 119 was armoured as was one Kompanie of the Pioniere Battalion.

[@alanch90]

would appreciate if you made videos like this one on the red army organization during interwar and ww2

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

did one on a Soviet Tank Division, the success was limited.

[@Ruebacca]

So the Artillery observer unit was moved to Army Command. Does that mean the 4th Army for example would have an artillery observer unit attached to it's command battalion?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

so far I need to look into how this army unit (Heerestruppe) system really worked. As far as I know it was in a pool and got allocated to divisions if needed.

[@williamcameron9019]

would there be much difference between a panzer grenadier division 1944 compared to a SS-Panzergrenadier-Division 1944 ?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

not sure, haven't looked into the later ones and since youtube demonetizes even the regular military history videos, I won't touch the ss, especially not with German/Austrian sjw-politics that can't tell the difference between a door and a star destroyer.

[@williamcameron9019]

agreed, well thank you for the response looks like i'll have to do some research now lol.

[@fren183]

Hoi4 division template please?

[@DBSG1976]

Any chance of a Feldgendamie

[@samedajdinovic2832]

wasnt it easier to type actual numbers under everything much more clearer to see :)

[@ju87stukab2leevilplane9]

What the name of the car tank?

[@onionioni424]

Hm, wo sind die Panzer-Abteilungen? Jede Panzergrenadier-Division hatte (auf dem Papier) eine.

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

> Jede Panzergrenadier-Division hatte (auf dem Papier) eine. wann? welche Quelle? nach dieser Gliederung war es eher eine Jagdpanzer / Sturmgeschütz Abteilung, aber das ist halt nur eine Gliederung von vielen.

[@onionioni424]

@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized Hi! Meine Quelle ist hier das "Lexikon-der- Wehrmacht.de" Dort sind je weitere Quellen angegeben, wie z.B. für die 3. Panzergrenadier-Division (Panzer-Abteilung 103): Rolf Stoves: Die gepanzerten und motorisierten deutschen Großverbände 1935-1945. Ed. Dörfler im Nebel-Verlag, Eggolsheim 2003 Georg Tessin: Verbände und Truppen der deutschen Wehrmacht und Waffen-SS im Zweiten Weltkrieg 1939-1945. Band 2. Die Landstreitkräfte 1-5. 2. Auflage. Biblio-Verlag, Bissendorf 1973 Gerhard Dieckhoff: 3. Infanterie Division / 3. Infanterie Division (mot.) / 3. Panzergrenadier-Division. Göttingen, Erich Börries, 1960

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

irgendwelche Quellen anzugeben, die du nicht gelesen hast ist einfach nur irreführend. Und wenn du mal das Lexikon der Wehrmacht ordentlich gelesen hättest, dann hätte sich die Frage erübrigt. Siehe Panzer-Abteilung 7 der 10. Panzergrenadierdivision: "Obwohl die Angehörigen der Abteilung panzertaktisch und panzertechnisch ausgebildet waren bzw. wurden, ist die Abteilung nicht mit Panzern, sondern mit Sturmgeschützen ausgestattet worden." www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/PanzerAbt/PanzerAbt7.htm

[@onionioni424]

@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized Danke für Deine Antwort. Ja, aber die gleiche Quelle gibt auch an: Panzer-Abteilung 115 (15.PzGr-Div.): hauptsächlich mit Panzer ausgestattet. Panzer-Abteilung 116 (16.PzGr-Div.): wohl ausschließlich mit Panzer ausgestattet. 25. Panzergrenadier-Division: auch gemischt. Meine Verwirrung bestand ja einfach daraus, das Du Panzer-Abteilungen in einer Gliederung als Sturmgeschütz-Battalione bezeichnet hast. Das ist, unabhängig von der tatsächlichen Ausstattung, nicht korrekt. Und als Deutscher kann ich das nicht stehen lassen. :-)

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

die Frage ist vor allem: > wann? dann kommt noch jede Menge verschiedene "Basis"-Gliederungen und dann natürlich, dass die nicht immer erfüllt wurden. > nach dieser Gliederung war es eher eine Jagdpanzer / Sturmgeschütz Abteilung, aber das ist halt nur > eine Gliederung von vielen.

[@Mr_Bunk]

Only seven armoured half-tracks in a whole division? Does this count the variants of the SdKfz 251 & its little brother, the SdKfz 250?

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

yeah, the listing had mSPW (mittlerer SchützenPanzerWagen) which is usually the SdKfz 251. There were several "Maultier" but those are not armored. The elite army units and waffen-ss had more of them as far as I know, but I also read that even those weren't fully equipped with halftracks.

[@thomasmiltenburg1996]

that is pretty weird considering that the Germans did produce almost 100.000 half tracks.of which half of them where Armored. nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._250 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._251 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-track

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

15.2k and 6.6k... is not 50k? (looking at the wiki numbers). the other link states 40k+ for the US.

[@thomasmiltenburg1996]

go down the last link the page is pretty messy with the tekst Edit i just see that only 25k where Armored and 75k where just light half tracks. but still that is a lot of armored half tracks

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

those are not armored. maybe copy the relevant part.