Making blank 58cal realistic cartridges for authentic reenactors

[@RidgeRunner86]

Now you will sell even more of these! Put the little orphans to work but double their ration of porridge.

[@johnfisk811]

Gruel dear boy. Porridge is too rich for their little stomachs what with the butter and salt.

[@someguy2741]

Double their ration of Red Bull

[@danielcurtis1434]

I believe you mean “gruel”!!!

[@henryfurgason8626]

I am blown away, so cool! This will be my first year reenacting, and I want to be less of a mainstreamer. This definitely helps.

[@paulgood4631]

I just started making them for my son. Thanks for the tutorial 😀

[@warskye5686]

Great job Sir. Thanks for taking the time to show us.

[@warwolf416]

Omg little urchins 😂. But really this is great! I always learn so much watching your content. This will defiantly be referenced on when I eventually start making my own. I would enjoy seeing more tutorials as well. Thanks!

[@warskye5686]

He dose a great job

[@Shadowmourne07]

I find that twisting your powder tube gets a better seal than just folding it. Twist it like a tootsie roll end and then push it in. Some great tips though I hadn't even thought of. Good stuff as always Brett, may see you in Gettysburg this year.

[@Midlanflyguy]

I use a 1/2" drum stick to form my tubes. Works like a champ.

[@thatsthewayitgoes9]

160 year Civil War anniversary? Wow I’m old. Born 84 years after the civil war . Easily remember the Civil War Centennial

[@peteslinn482]

Thanks, Brett. If you do find time, it would be nice to see a demo of how you pack them into bundles, please :)

[@thomasmanson1119]

Back in the 1980s we just got roll-ends of newsprint from the newspaper printers and used that for paper. It was usually free.

[@77gravity]

As a manual factory worker, making precision parts by the thousand, I can see so many simple ways to improve the process of cartridge making, with jigs. Ways to roll and hold the tube, crimp the tube, tie it off.

[@jefferypowell9885]

Was found in the battlefield of the civil war a good friend gave it to me

[@garymyersgarym6434]

Love your kits, just purchased the Brown Bess Kit and the .58 caliber mini ball kit fir my 1863 contract Musket..

[@Derecq]

I use those biodegradable packing peanuts as a filler for my Snider cartridges. A half one is enough, when compressed they stay compressed and no messing around with trying to get the right volume of cream of wheat etc.

[@ktinga1]

It's just occurred to me that I've actually been in your shop, and met you face to face. It was very brief, but I enjoyed my visit! Fascinating, and I hope to come back sometime with more spare time and money 🤣

[@josephgonzales4802]

Great video. I will use some of your techniques. One of the fellows in are unit had made a stamp for the arsenal packs which makes it look as you know even more authentic. 😊

[@Schlachtschule]

Fascinating, thank you. As you know, I don't do reenactment, so I don't fire any blanks. How do reenactors get the peanuts out to ram them, or do they just ram the whole wad of paper down the bore with the peanuts still inside? That would be a shame since spectators would be missing an entire section of the correct loading evolution.

[@penguin2071]

A lot of events don't allow ramming; however, for smaller events, you can, and yes, you would ram the whole wad of paper down.

[@papercartridges6705]

They can be rammed, but because it’s just foam, they’re tricky to extricate from the paper… if I’m at an event that allows me to ram, I stick down the whole front piece of the cartridge (paper and all). Most mainstream events will throw fits if you ram anything down the barrel during a reenactment, though.

[@shingasa4725]

@@papercartridges6705what happens to the packing peanut? Does it just disintegrate or burn?

[@johnsamsungs7570]

Your channel is quite interesting and has been referenced by other very good KZbin channels! Thanks for your work! Cheers from OZ.

[@papercartridges6705]

Anyone so grossly negligent or incompetent as to bring loaded cartridges to a reenactment, and then actually load one (which involves removing the bullet from the paper, putting it into the muzzle, and ramming it down, without noticing that it’s a piece of lead instead of packing foam), is not just being “unsafe,” but criminally deliberate.

[@johnsamsungs7570]

@@papercartridges6705 Quite true, my mistake! I'm not a black powder shooter. I forgot it is muzzleloader! I will delete the post after you see this as it was posted without thinking it through! Sorry!

[@davinci3259]

Got my kids in the basement making cartridges right now. They get .50 a day but only work 6 hour days. Room and board are provided though so not historically accurate but it's the best I could manage while staying under the radar.

[@papercartridges6705]

Builds character.

[@pctotty]

If you want to make it go a little faster, get thread scissors. They loop over your ring finger and you can roll and tie, without having to put them down, every time.

[@Flintlock85]

Nice job Brett!!

[@jonathanhill7096]

Great tutorial. Just need to save enough money for an Enfield. May have to sell one of my orphans to make a purchase.

[@castlec6626]

I miss the ole days when we could drink in uniform, but I certainly don’t miss having to buy the (very expensive) Engineer buttons for those uniforms.

[@kingfish4575]

i never knew it was that easy....now I know...

[@skylerslack12]

Ever thought about making a revision to this for the 1855 cartridge?

[@-----REDACTED-----]

“(…) because they were being done by children, young girls or boys, generally.” Why, yes, that’s the forms they usually come in…😂

[@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798]

Ohhh boy. Track Of The Wolf always ships using those peanuts. Good thing I ordered myself a new Enfield lock lol

[@knallis.hjemmelading]

Thanks for sharing, please sir, can a have some more 🤣🤣👏

[@wolffang489]

Wouldn't folding the paper in prevent the powder from contacting the bullet better than a cinch? There's always going to be a little pinhole in the center that way.

[@568843daw]

Excellent presentation. So, how are pistol cartridges made?

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

Very cool i love learning this sort of stuff of history now mow did they load the powder and ball?

[@VladimirTheLeadHead]

I think I can help out with the demand for these .

[@HubertStanczyk]

I have got a question. As a string to tie the cartilage, can I use a string made from a sisal material ?

[@joshuabale4923]

How do i avoid my "bullet" tube from expanding when i put the styrofoam in? I have it nic and tight, and once i put the styrofoam in, the opening gets wider and is not as tight.

[@KingRootBeer]

Thinking of making a 3d printed kit for cartridges. Any suggestions for it?

[@Renfield37]

this could work for 50 cal. too i am guessing... i have paper ladies but its hard to get them to close and stay shut.. i need to find out how.. but i am guessing it be the same for a sharps....

[@thubandra963]

What keeps the grease from soaking the paper and coming in contact with the powder, especially when stored over time?

[@papercartridges6705]

It usually does soak into the paper a bit. Cartridges sitting in storage often have grease stains. They still work as long as all the lube hasn’t totally melted off the bullets

[@CanadianGooseWithagun]

I use brown paper lunch bags it’s like 2 dollars or so for like 100 bags and I haven’t been through it all over a year

[@debojitbiswas9168]

Hey I have another question 😅😅 Can I use the brown food wrapping paper.

[@antaLord]

nice video, just make sure the minie ball is still on the mandrel when you are done lol 😄

[@joshuabale4923]

I have a problem tearing this paper to load sometimes.

[@papercartridges6705]

Make sure you get painters masking paper, and not the heavier “Kraft” paper which is a real struggle to tear! Sometimes even the masking paper can be tough but it’s a whole lot better than the Kraft paper.

[@debojitbiswas9168]

Hey I have a question Can we use steel in place of lead for the bullets ?

[@papercartridges6705]

No, it would destroy the barrel and could not shoot accurately.

[@CurtosiusMaximus828]

So if I do this for live ammunition, do I hitch it with the bullet inside?

[@papercartridges6705]

Yep just stick a lubricated bullet in there, everything else is the same.

[@debojitbiswas9168]

Can we use kraft paper

[@papercartridges6705]

Yes but it’s pretty thick and might be hard to tear open with teeth.

[@debojitbiswas9168]

@@papercartridges6705 Hey I have another question 😁😁 Can I use brown food wrapping paper

[@robertrobert7924]

I love those biodegradable peanuts, if I don't use them for something else, I spread them in my garden. After a good rain, they just disappear. Do you make revolver blanks, or are they not allowed anymore since that guy got shot in the neck by a live round awhile back ?

[@debojitbiswas9168]

What is the size of one cartridge

[@papercartridges6705]

About 2 inches long

[@jefferypowell9885]

I have a spring field muskit made in 1812

[@debojitbiswas9168]

Can you please tell me what is the GSM of the paper that you used 🙏🙏🙏

[@papercartridges6705]

I don’t know what it converts to in GSM but it is about 12lb weight paper

[@treysmith8917]

Where can you get the blue cartridge paper?

[@papercartridges6705]

I make it

[@jefferypowell9885]

Why not turn down a wood dowel in a wood lathe

[@JeffatLAX]

What's the whiskey?

[@papercartridges6705]

Bulleit. I’m very introverted so before talking into a camera for 30 minutes, a little of the Dutch courage helps loosen up the gears in the brain.

[@JeffatLAX]

@@papercartridges6705 Thought the bottle had a familiar shape :)

[@robagrant1969]

IMA raps their firearms in a very nice paper that works quite well. When I run out, I just order another gun.

[@richardwhite7336]

Silly question, do you lubricate the whole paper?

[@gwh766]

How about blank English cartridges?

[@jefferypowell9885]

Conversation to percussion caps in 1842

[@grinninggoat5369]

I am an orphan (parents died along with rest of family). I am looking for gainful employment. ( I am 50 years old so, as an added bonus to you, no potty training or pesky puberty lockdowns required.)

[@papercartridges6705]

Perfect timing! We are taking applications. We are short of orphans ever since that last round of cholera.

[@stevegarroutte8947]

I think that winstine was advertising child labor, so u can give tiny Tim a brake, make sure you give them all a lump of coal in there stocking as well. Marry Christmas in August as I think the shopping will start in a couple of days .

[@Afro408]

$21 including the Hootch???😉😂

[@kurtschlarb9762]

Hey, It took you a little over 2 minutes to make one of these. So, maybe 30 an hour or so? After your shift with these kids you made 300; while they made 1,000. Sorry Captain, but we are going to have to let you go. Just as well, being present during child labor laws violations. Anyway, I really like the way you demonstrate clearly how you make these paper charges. I'm surprised there are not way more views on this. Lots of interested folks out there. Keep it up. Good luck to you.

[@anthonybrennan4416]

I tried to buy Orphans on line and the FBI showed up at my door ! I tried to explane they were for my Militia but that didn't seem to work🤔

[@Irishpewtuber]

Authenticity is great and all right upto the moment someone accidentally gets shot because your blank load looks so much like your live load . Reenactors over on that side of the pond seriously have to re-evaluate your expectations. It's just a hobby it's not worth some one not going home after the event.

[@papercartridges6705]

You completely misunderstand how these rounds work. To load a musket with a real bullet, you have to take the bullet out of the paper and stick it into the muzzle. It weighs an ounce. There is absolutely no conceivable way somebody could mistake a piece of styrofoam for a heavy piece of metal. They don’t look or feel anything alike.

[@Irishpewtuber]

@@papercartridges6705 blanks and live rounds don't look anything alike, it still happens. I understand perfectly how they work and I understand the desire to be as close to authentic as possible and accidents happening may be acceptable in the US but in other parts of the world absolutely not. That gets under my skin btw because injuries and deaths are acceptable in motor sports , rock climbing and sky diving but accidents with firearms the authorities seem to pay particular attention.

[@henryfurgason8626]

@@Irishpewtuber Um, what?

[@Irishpewtuber]

@@henryfurgason8626 what part are you not understanding