My Bird Breeding Cages And Set Up | Finch Breeding Room | Aviary

In this video ill give you guys a tour of my indoor bird room and show you my breeding set up along with some of the birds I breed and chicks Ive hatched this season
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[@chennaispetlove7606]

The Most factor of this video was the points you discussed on the TIME / Commitment it takes to maintain something like this... setting up is very easy BUT keeping them happy and neat is whole different task. Thats a very very valid point you stressed! Very useful!

[@steveshukla3512]

I searched the whole KZbin didn't find someone explaining such a great way, but you. This video is 10/10 with all the relevant info, the voice, the delivery everything. You've every single bird that I've planning to get. Perfectly arranged, well hygine maintained cages. Thanks a ton. I am so happy and just subscribed your channel. Good Luck! 🍀

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you for your kind words Steve, glad you enjoyed the video and joined our family here at Paradise Aviary 😁

[@bethreaves403]

I love seeing and listening about your aviary set ups! What an amazing collection of birds! I too added fake greenery and quickly found the poop mess a problem. But I only have a small amount of birds so it’s not too bad, I just keep clean plants a available so I can replace a messy one and clean it later.

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you Beth 🙂. I use to love how my cages looked with all the greenery but now they look so plain.

[@troyhaugen1487]

I have used corncob bedding for my avairies for over 23 years. Its heavy in weight, and finches flying dont remove it from ground. It has worked fantastic. The only problem with it is if it gets to wet from very heavy bathing it can start to mold into a clump . Water and corn don't mix well if it happens to often it can cause aspergillosis mold to grow, however finches bath is generally short, or bath container can be put into another "collection" container so bedding stays drier. It's pretty, sand colored, all natural and my avairy is in a public setting built above a row of washers at our laundromat in WI. It works great for my flights at home also, it holds seed hulls, and thrown seed, so it's not all over the house. It has a very natural fresh ground corn smell. I buy it in 50# bags at any local pet supply. So YES I would highly recommend it over cat litter which contained clay, and can impact finches digestion track if they can reach it, and think its grit. Corn cob bedding is dry, absorbent, heavy weight, and I have had zero issues with it. In the avairy finches hop on it, dig thru it looking for any escaped mealworms ect. I actually let a mealworms colony grow in it. The avairy is all glass, so it's all self contained and mealworms cant get out, once in a great while I might find a beetle adult mealworms out of avairy, but very rare. I highly recommend it. Troy -WI

[@macintoshimann9892]

Second job...thats a full time job and a half! lol. Awesome aviary! Im looking to get into breeding but something Ive quickly learned from watching videos from people in the industry... I dont think I wanna mess around with 500 birds lol. Really passionate about bringing birds that bring lots of joy to people, but with the amount of work and time and some physical disabilities, sadly I think I need to avoid spending time on things like Zebra finches that I don't really think will bring the same joy to someone that say a conure would. But who knows, its really helpful learning from people that are active in the industry currently. Thanks for making the videos you do!

[@silvsiri3478]

I love this channel , just can’t get enough

[@paradiseaviary]

@Silvsiri 🙏 thank you for your support my friend glad your enjoying the videos!

[@DailyMyChildhood]

That was so cool breeding cages . Appreciate your works😊

[@AviaryBirdsAndCo]

Beautiful birds!!!

[@roseneiger1251]

Love your bird room ! Very clean ,you are a great breeder ,that would be a full time job 😄

[@kingfisherphil]

Hi in europe many people use small wood chips for floor cover. As for fragrance if you use a humidifier many allow use of scented oils... I like your warning about the amount of time, and your standards of cleanliness. I am amazed in UK how many people fail to clean enough! Very helpful video, thank you.

[@paradiseaviary]

@kingfisherphil, Thank you so much for that idea I never though about a humidifier, ill look into that! yes cleanliness should always be the #1 goal with any aviary this helps avoid so many problems! unfortunetly its not easy to keep big set ups like this clean and this is where many start to fall behind and encounter health problems with their flocks.

[@uzairmuhammad9770]

Very organized and controlled aviary

[@stanleygilbert5486]

Looks good! I spray my 1 aviary bottom with water mist and lay out a single layer of paper towels on the bottom. They dry quickly and stick slightly matching the form of the tray.

[@paradiseaviary]

Thats actually a very clever idea !! I dont do that and the paper can make some noise as the birds fly back and fourth. Also some like to grab it and tear it up for nesting materials

[@Alex-S.]

Wow! 🤩 i am speachless ! 😍

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you my friend

[@hannahkayee831]

Just found your channel! Great videos!!!

[@GabyKen35]

Hi Chris, For the bottom of the cage I use corn cobs that has been chopped up and it absorbs the bird waste and lasts a long time. I live in Ontario Canada and a 40 lb bag costs around $25.00. I think it's much cheaper then cat litter.

[@michaelfrazer1807]

Thank You so much. Beautiful

[@TropicalAviaryBirds]

Good channel - and lots of good advice

[@ghazanferabbas248]

Love this setup beautifull

[@BHFriesians]

You might try pelleted horse bedding. It comes in big 50# bags and would be cost effective. You can find it at any farm supply store or I’m sure you can order it online. It is heavy enough that I don’t think it will fly out of cages as the birds fly around. It’s smells good (woody smell) and absorbs wonderfully. I don’t have as many cages as you do but I do use that bedding for my horses and other farm animals. I hope this helps.

[@houssembelhadef1742]

A very nice setting - I loved it from Algeria, I am a fan of your channels and your birds

[@Blackroastbirds]

Very informative video! I had to come back to this a few times 👍👍

[@DavetJu]

I use ground up corn cobs. Does a decent job and doesn't really smell....I don't have 500 birds!! LOL The poop clumps and is easy to clean. When the birds dig around in the bottom they tend to spread it around though. I don't always use the grate at the bottom of the cage. Great videos! Thanks!!!

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you so much for the tip. Ive had a few people mention the corn cobs, but i have not found any here locally. Personally if it was up to me I wouldnt keep any of the bottom grates either as i prefer natural floor for the birds but these cages loose their stability when you take the bottom grates off so had to keep them on.

[@mrsebastianito]

Excelente aviario,a disfrutarlo

[@paradiseaviary]

Muchas gracias amigo

[@saeed6730]

what a pleasant birdroom and so well managed .. hard work = good results and that is clearly apparent here ..also the commentary is full of good tips and advice .. appreciated thanks..all the best regards.

[@paradiseaviary]

@SAEED Akhtar 🙏 Thank you so much for your kind words my friend

[@noelpetroni6491]

Love your videos! Question: Is it better to place the perch length wise, like you do, or place 2 on either side in depth wise?

[@nomanali9429]

Waoo your setup is an inspiration for new fancier … its a dream setup for me❤

[@zomriabysizil9403]

Absolutely beautiful setup. Birds are in great shape, lots of light, simply great. I have read that you used to have European goldfinches and European Greenfinches. Can you recommend me some breeders of those two in states please? Thanks and God bless.

[@javadpullaramanjeri]

Nice...clean and tidy

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you I try my best to keep it this way

[@miman420]

Amazing man.

[@pleasejoe]

I highly recommend bird cage nettings(breathable fabric that wraps around the lower part of the cage). To deal with the smell, I use carbon pellets with baking soda mixed in. GL and Cheers!

[@paradiseaviary]

Ive seen those bird cage nettings before and have thought about it just dont know if it would work for me since all my cages are stacked one ontop of another with no space it would be extremelly hard to clean those nets. The baking soda and carbon pellets sounds like a great idea. Ill look gor those and give em a try 🙏 thank you for the tip, Cheers

[@pleasejoe]

@@paradiseaviary As for the nets, they are easy to clean(just snap it like rubber bands and everything falls off). The cheapest way to make your own, Jo-ann's has stretchable fabrics you can easily utilize. Carbon pellets vary on prices on Amazon and Bass Pro Shop. GL n cheers

[@ssverton]

My friend your videos are the best!!

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you so much @Bronx Birds, by the way how are the Red throats doing ? any chicks yet ? any lutinos ?

[@koolone3791]

Newspaper or a large roll of packing paper is what I used when I bred gouldians. Just because its not dusty and when the birds fly they it doesn't go everywhere like the wood chips. If the birds get to it and decide to use it for nesting material it will be ok.

[@bankusrok621]

I like you cannel ..bird fantastic I from indonesia..god job

[@lolpeople379]

Sand is the best replacement. Definitely try it

[@headendk]

Very nice setup😍 love it from NYC Sani.

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you Saud Sani 😁

[@koolone3791]

Your bird room is very nice. I use to breed gouldian finches for many years. I use to produce 1000 chics yearly. I was one of the biggest breeder in Miami. There is a lot of different types of beddings you can use but I always used news paper and I never had a problem it doesn't look great or eliminate the smell but it absorbed well and didn't get all over the place.

[@michaeltaylor1553]

How many birds did you have to produce 1000 chicks

[@koolone3791]

@@michaeltaylor1553 around 40-50 pairs of gouldians and around 200+/- pairs society finches. Hell of alot of work.

[@silvsiri3478]

Hello from Australia, what do you do for heating and cooling in the garage ?

[@koolone3791]

Im sure you give them egg food. I use to make a mix of egg food with hard boiled eggs keep the shell intact monkey chow which is high in protein along with vitamins, spirulina and wheat grass powder and vitamin E for breeding. My secret recipe your birds will love it.

[@lovebirdnewschanel8585]

Amazing

[@derekirelandsirsmokepotalo1152]

There is a problem with the red cedar chips you can get mite in them I use just normal dry sand at the base of the cage. You have some amazing quality of birds and a top set up it's similar to mine only I have a third the amount of cages I keep Canary, Goldfinch, redpolls, greenfinch, siskins all Irish bird's

[@edj2745]

Those D-shape water tray/cup in the white and black cages, where did you get them from? Do you sell it? I've been looking around for them with no luck. Use sand from the playground for the bottom of the cage and use a cat litter scoper to scope up the poop.

[@thehcorps]

Great indoor aviary.. How much is your pair of owl finch? Just an idea only, Thanks and Happy birding!

[@Qbanito89RB]

wow love the bird room !! So many different species and all those parrot finch mutations towards the end of the video are incredible !!!

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you

[@shanrrosh]

I did something pretty similar to what you did with the x-mas tree shrubs inside my aviary. Today when I got home I found that two of my gouldians had decided to pair up and build a nest in the shrub, despite the fact that I am offering both nest boxes, baskets and coconuts. I have never seen gouldians make a free nest before. I uploaded the clip of me filming it, but am not sure I am allowed to link it here. In your experience, how uncommon is it that gouldians do this?

[@alexmorillojurado6504]

Grandes instalaciones!! Gracias por compartirlas. Un saludo desde Barcelona!💪🏻

[@paradiseaviary]

Muchas gracias, saludos y un fuerte abrazo amigo

[@TheDelmont]

Crazy!!!!

[@sabeesh1]

excellent video about birds..

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you Sabeesh thomas

[@Mesut-hs1jh]

Hi. You do great! I see you place single horizontal perches (bamboo?) in breeding cages. What is the point? Isn't it better to place 2 vertical perches to allow them hop ?

[@Fishinwithme]

Amazing mate really enjoy your channel 🎉

[@Fishinwithme]

Would love to do a joint video with you 🎉🎉

[@achillesbuchanan2095]

Beautiful video. Excellent work. Thank you! (It’s interesting that you call this space an “aviary”. Here in Australia we call this a “bird room”, and only the large outdoor walk-in enclosure is called an “aviary”.

[@paradiseaviary]

Hi Andrew thank you. We call it the same here as you guys this is considered a bird room, but outside I have a large walk in aviary so sometimes I say aviary while in the bird room. Also put (AVIARY) on the title of the video just to broaden the search possibility of the video

[@indosatwa5883]

Veri nice ..hobies job...

[@muhammadfaisal520]

Good information bro

[@savirabirdfarm9646]

Beutiful birds.. 👍👍

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you

[@pecan11]

Just put the cedar chips in strawberry pots of any vertical holder that has holes and put in entrance to and exit areas At least it will help with smell and u might try putting some baking soda underneath the litter. Not on top it will end up flying in the room. U might try activated charcoal in the room in a container

[@alejandrovarela7228]

Excelente información Disculpe donde pone el nido de plástico Corta la jaula para pueda quedar? No se si me explico

[@idanchachy8361]

You have an amazing collection of finches... You can make a video about all the species of finches you have?

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you Idan Chachy ive made other videos on individual species but have never made one video showing all the species together ill work on making one like that. Thank you for the idea!

[@3299MARK]

I use rabbit woodchips and it’s quite good

[@asishsuresh6895]

Bro can you explain about the items in cages like water bottle seed cups and breading boxes and all pls bro

[@ashtonpierre9325]

I have two Owl Finches. Last few days they are flying and jousting each other as if they are fighting! Is this part of the breeding process! I’ve had them a year now and I think it’s breeding time.

[@finchvn]

Wwow very pro !!!

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you my friend

MUITO INTERESSANTE SEUS VIDEOS ABRAÇO AQUI DO BRASIL

[@johnnyroy2711]

Can u tell the automatic feeder you use in your cages ? Thanks

[@rayaanali2055]

I use cat litter I have be using it for 6 years there I no problem with my birds I promise I weres like a charm

[@kishorekumar6773]

Nice 🐦 room

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you @kishore Kumar

[@maulviishere]

Mashallah ❤️

[@hotzewinkel7264]

Goodjob, in holland we call it Zeoliet what you put on the bottum of the cage, do you use a ionization device for dust particles in the air? i think its good2have. Hotze Winkel

[@coop5329]

I use fine, soft pine shavings in the bottom of the cages. We have a supplier in my area that has this in large bales and it's advertised as having no dust, which I can verify is true. I've never used cedar because it's so toxic to a lot of birds and animals, plus the chips are very coarse and not as absorbent. Yeah, I love the smell too, but. . . I did try the ground corn cob bedding a long time ago, but you end up with seed moths (Indian meal moths) with that.

[@paradiseaviary]

@Coop is the soft pine shaving also a pain to keep in the trays with the birds flapping around ? Luckly used ceader for many years and never had any probs but have had a few people already tell me the same thing about it being dangerous! The cat litter was a fail so now looking for a different alternative lets see what i find.

[@coop5329]

@@paradiseaviary I apologize I didn't go back and see your question for so long! No, there is no problem with the specific brand of shavings I use--there is no dust, it has all been cleaned out. There is also not a problem with the birds' flying around kicking up shavings into the water and food cups. I do also keep fancy pigeons, and those bigger birds are powerful enough fliers that they do kick the shavings up into the air, so I use a heavier brand of wood chips for them. The soft pine shavings are a much different brand than anything carried in the feed stores here for poultry bedding etc. , and of course it is a premium price but that is not a problem when using it in bird cages instead of chicken coops or horse stalls!

[@Nick-jk8mw]

I am using cat litter for a while now. My experience with cat litter is when the birds fly around. It gets very dusty due to the cat litter. I have to sweep twice or more a day.

[@paradiseaviary]

Hi Nick there is a brand of cat litter than is dust free thats the one that i used in the video. If you get the one with dust it just makes a huge mess like you said the birds flap around and all the dust is also bad for them

[@sivaraam2662]

Hi im from malaysia ..just wanted to ask you where can i purchase those feeding tray that you are using here in the video

[@brazcomz]

I'm using cat litter for quite sometime and is the best for me cause absorbs odor and liquids... I tried river sand, the birds enjoy it, but is hard to get and no power of absorption. Cheers

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you so much for your input @PAULO BRAZ, is the cat litter you use scented ? this one doesnt have any scent and it didnt help with the odor of birds in the room so im looking for something else to use for next month

[@jean-pierrevanrossem3261]

Hi, very nice breeding cages i must say. What I put on the bottom of my breeding cages are beech snips. They are smaller and more compact than your cedar wood chips. The advantages of these chips are that they will not move as much and fall next to the cages because of the flapping. Also, the birds will not take these chips to put in their nests. The beech wood also has a fresh, woody smell to cover the birds smell. They absorbe fluids and smells. Maybe you could give this a try.

[@paradiseaviary]

🙏 thank you so much for the tip. Where have you been buying these beech snips ? Ive never heard of them so not sure where to find them. I need to try something else because the cat litter has been a fail ! It did nothing for the bird odor.

[@jean-pierrevanrossem3261]

@@paradiseaviary Where I live (Belgium) they are available in every pet store or garden centre. It is unfortunate that i cannot send you a picture or litte clip via this comment section. They really are, in my opinion, the beste alternative I had this far.

[@paradiseaviary]

@Jean-Pierre Van Rossem If you have facebook or instagram you could send me a picture there i would love to see what it looks like and if im able to find it here in the U.S •Facebook: facebook.com/Paradiseaviary09/ •Instagram: instagram.com/paradiseaviary09?r=nametag

[@jean-pierrevanrossem3261]

@@paradiseaviary I contacted you on Instagram

[@rubenlizama9807]

Hy wat vitamin you use to breed your finch.so they get an heat an breed

[@bobbafettswe7622]

How do you ringmark the chicks so they dont be related later on? , numbers,color etc ?

[@carlosanibalmorillo3576]

I love this channel where can I buy the masked finches my friend ??

[@beanerschnitzel794]

you are giving great advice as to think about it long hard do thorough research, I have devoted and dedicated my life to breeding and it’s definitely long long hours of work cleaning regulating air humidity expenses, I must sacrifice vacations trips with the family and this part really sucks but I would not change my habits because preservation breeding is a very important thing for me to do. I have been using newspapers sand paper walnut chips towels so many things i use chlorahexidine for mopping floors but yes, you need lots of knowledge on breeding whether it’s show yorkies or conure eclectus lorikeets a thorough knowledge of genetics’ and diet line breeding do’s and don’ts of crossbreeding all these are to be taken very seriously, cleanliness is key and ultimately it’s quite fulfilling to me thank you honey oh i forgot lighting needs for all the pets, i hate smells so i use a variety of air purifiers essential oils fabric softener sheets lots of lavender proper air flow is necessary thanks again honey

[@BirdAndbeyond]

Great video. I would like to buy some pairs from you. Where are you located? I'm in Houston, Texas area

[@jwcollect6642]

Put a 4” skirt around the bottom of the cages. They’re just messy but this helps.

[@andrepetrini8837]

Very nice aviary. Well clean and organized. Where are you located? God bless you and your family.

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you so much @André Petrini im located in Tampa, FL U.S. God bless you and your family as well my friend hope you are staying safe during these difficult times!

[@leeroychavirosy9722]

Bird beatiful ,,,,,

[@paradiseaviary]

thank you

[@Garett6]

corn cob is what we use on the bottom of the cages.

[@chewybols]

I have 8 cages right now and can’t imagine having to clean as many as yours. But amazing setup! How do you clean the bottom grates?I haven’t found an efficient way of cleaning those yet. and do you transfer the birds temporarily?

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you @Jann Paolo Sy, Ohhh yea its very time consuming, but i love it 🙂. The bottom grates are a pain!!! I use a small wire brush similar to the ones used to clean bbq grills and scrub the poop. I dont transfer the birds so as you can imagine for about 20sec they are scared while i do this but its quick. I figure they would be just as stressed or maybe even more if i had to grab them and transfer them another cage and back again.

[@chewybols]

That makes sense actually as it takes me up to a minute to even catch them, I’ll try cleaning the grills with them in.

[@rockyrockstar513]

Brother, I want to keep 1 or 2 pair of bird for part time job. Which one do you recommend

[@kateszoo]

back when I had many breeding cages, all I ever used was newspaper. These days I just have an indoor walk in aviary. The floor is leakproof plastic, and a thin layer of kiln dried pine shavings are tossed down.

[@paradiseaviary]

I had to switch to newspaper as well so far so good!

[@jean-pierrevanrossem3261]

@@paradiseaviary When I use newspaper my birds will rip out peaces and put them in their nests (covering the eggs). Don't you have this problem?

[@thaimai6267]

Hey bro what do you use on the bottom trays again ? You mentioned in the video but I can’t tend to find out, please let me know thank you

[@paradiseaviary]

@Jean-Pierre Van Rossem yes the birds some how manage to get the paper at the bottom of the tray shred it and add it to the nest... sometimes over eggs they are encubating

[@paradiseaviary]

@Thai Mai, right now im using normal paper on the bottom trays

[@Jankee912]

Loved your aviary.... can you give us more information about the cages and the lights... where you got them and the the dimensions for the breeding cages and the flying cages. Thanks!

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you @Jean Mora the cages Ive purchased over the years at local petshops in my area some are 24x16x16 those usually cost $25 each and then I also have the 32x18x18 which i conect to male larger flights for the africans those run about $35 per cage i believe. The lights ive baught ftom amazon they are L.E.D shop lights 6500k cant remember exact cost of these. Hope this helps

[@Jankee912]

@@paradiseaviary thanks so much for the info 🙏🏼

[@junajayakingbird]

I want to ask something little but important 🙏 How many times you clean all of breeding cage?? Everyday or any time usual you take for clean? Thanks before,. From indonesia with love finch 🙏🙏

[@saeedyan6509]

I used to have trouble with air sac mites but now using diatomaceous earth (scentless) and it’s working perfectly! I strongly recommend it for under the cages. Also have a question. Where can I get the identical square nest boxes of yours? Would they work with owl finches?

[@paradiseaviary]

@Saeed Yan How is the diatomaceous earth sold is it in big bags ? trying to figure out a cost effective solutions because i have a lot of cages so depends on size of bag and price. The nest boxes Ive baught online they work great for most of the australian species like masked grass finch, owls, gouldians, stars, and a few others.

[@saeedyan6509]

@@paradiseaviary I have only used it for 3-4 cages therefore didn’t need big bags, I’m sure you can check online or with local farms because I know some people use it for chickens as well. The good things with mine is you don’t have to change it often. Which website can I get those nest boxes from? Any search tags?

[@saeedyan6509]

@@paradiseaviary never mind found it thanks

[@paradiseaviary]

Ill look for it online thankyou. I buy all these nest boxes from a local petshop but they have then online at www.glamgouldians.com/product-finch-nest-art63.php

[@belekyguk3446]

Hii, what type of diet you use for gouldian finch?

[@paulgailgalura4618]

Wow thanks! Where did you buy the cages? I started breeding african lovebirds

[@paradiseaviary]

Hi PaulGail Galura ive baught these from local pet shops here in my are (Tampa, FL). Love birds are beautifull so many color variations! how many do you have ?

[@paulgailgalura4618]

@@paradiseaviary thank you

[@jblau3943]

Wow

[@Mb-ku7pp]

Can you show you set up for bigger birds e.g grey Africans ?

[@shaguito87]

Wow, this is awesome. Always been enjoying your outdoor aviary but never knew about this hidden gem. Even though you have trouble with your cedar scattered all over the place, it's still very neat and organized. Well done my friend. I hope to have a similar set up but maybe with just a few breeding cages, hahaha.

[@paradiseaviary]

🙏 Thank you @shaguito87 i appreciate your kind words. When I started I said the sane thing as you "only a few" but look at me now 🤣. Hope you can set yours up someday soon!

[@MuhammadRizwan-ov6jb]

Nice 🌹

[@rizwanshaikh4532]

Mashallah

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you my friend!

[@beyazorman]

hello ,what amount of lumen is right for gouldian finches?

[@birolpullukcu6807]

Süper 👏👏👏

[@neild8658]

Hi how do you keep the cages on top of each other without a stand and for them not to fall over? Did you fix them onto the wall? when I put my cages on top of Each other like that they start to rock back to front when my heavier birds start to fly from side to side.

[@peytonkieninger4236]

they’re on shelves

[@paradiseaviary]

@Neil D, all the cages are zip tied to one another so they don't move thats what keeps it so sturdy

[@mathewtsillis2271]

Beautiful aviary! Do you breed any european finches?

[@paradiseaviary]

Thank you Mathew Tsillis I dont at the moment but use to a couple years ago I had european gold finch and green finches but that was about it. Ive always wanted to work with bull ginches but they are not available here in the states

[@johngoose1497]

We have used the same cage's for 2 years after using wood cages 30 years, they are excellent to prevent mite that live in wood. We have the same problem seed ect blows out easy, a pet cage would have a tray 3 or 4 inch deep. This is a fault with the manufacturer's who copied the depth from wood box cages. The bottom grills keep birds cleaner, but we find grills annoying to clean, how do you clean your grills.

[@paradiseaviary]

@John Goose, cleaning the bottom grills of the cages is a horrible task i use a small wire brush similar to the ones used to clean bbq grills and scrub the poop off but its very time consuming and scares the birds that are in those cages but i have no other option. Ive seen some new cages that have the ability to remove the bottom grill so hoping to eventually swap these for those in the future it will make things easier.

[@johnwoods7227]

How do you find those type cages Do you get much of a mess?

[@abrahamneufeld2754]

It looks really good where are you located