Paragon Competitive Gameplay vs Toronto eSports - Patch 40!

[@DNAofDeath]

Greystone: need some help left lane. Team: *chirping of crickets* Greystone: really need some help.... Team: *chirping of crickets* Greystone: need help left lane... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Good teamwork, good teamwork!

[@FreddyJGamePlay]

DNAofDeath They didn't even care about losing their teir 2 on left like wtf

[@travissmith2092]

This is an awesome series! Please keep doing them! It'll also be awesome for you to go back and watch the progression of your team!

[@adamvalentine2651]

Really liking the direction you're taking and sharing these games with us its really clear that you guys are slowly coming together nicely. I'm getting a lot from watching these matches and its good to see you guys improving each time as well.

[@asmr-sensei]

Greystone got even more amazing with his passive blocking a basic attack. I was happy to see him actually use his shield for once to deflect shots. Now his carried shield has meaning. His epic new skin is beyond pleasing to use. Best skin in the game right now.

[@Eydrial]

I somehow can relate to Hollow, every game is a learning process and the idea of discussing it later and focusing on the game is a commendable attitude. I also sound jerk-ish but I don't mean to lol. I'm learning a lot from these vids. Thanks Ace!

[@AhJong0]

Great stuff, really good to see you guys tackling such a strong team. I'd love to hear your whole team analysis of the game and what key moments or strategy you'd do differently. Absolutely fascinating, really looking forward to watching this team's journey 🙂

[@lordhgs]

These videos were the best. So many good memories from this era of Paragon.

[@Leonox864]

I love these videos. Nobody I know is doing this kind of content with full team comms. Keep it up ACE. I'm learning a lot!

[@vellocity7405]

Could you make more tanks builds because of the V40 armour and health buff?

[@Xenomyph]

a steel build and guide would be so awesome

[@impreza9726]

Velocity I always built my deck tank and loved it. People see a skinny girl and don't think tank while im 2k health and 30 ability armor with toxi-gel and thermo bond combo, I'd still have quenching, honor the pure, ward's and either purity sensor, tempest pearl or basic armor. I would go to enemy khai jungle and troll him when i was bored, 90% of time I got away with him using ult and 4-5 times jumping on me. Team fights I always get to the front and hope i get stunned, rooted and ect because thermo bond would keep healed plus 2k+ health is a lot. Tank build been working just o many junglers around thinking there the ADC.

[@philipc05]

Great videos ACE! Been watching your vids for since legacy and really enjoy all your content. Your recent team play videos have been great to watch and very informative. Hope to see more like these and the one where you went over what you could have done better in offlane. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication. Will see what tomorrow bring 😎

[@robinvandepoele2117]

I have been waiting a long time for videos with the whole voice chat! I think it's easier to learn when and how it is best to engage and when not!

[@ZombieJockYT]

Great video, but the teamwork really needs some work. I would recommend having 1 designated shot caller, similar to Jleo on reborn.

[@adamvalentine2651]

I think having WacCo in this "shot caller" role would be a great shout if they decided to run with this idea, he seems pretty composed throughout the game and is a good communicator.

[@kloztrofobz]

Hey Ace, i love these videos. I Know you are dedicated to the offlane with your team but seeing other roles/POV (Mid, Jungle, Supp or Carry) would be amazing. Keep up your amazing work! :)

[@jacobvanluvender5132]

Really helpful and fun to watch. Teaches us a lot. Don't stop with these vids. Your doing a great job!

[@daytonprochazka9562]

I am loving the videos! I feel like I'm learning something new every video!

[@Ace-hs3ux]

One thing that i believe you guys can improve on is the planning. It almost seems that TOR is planned out everything that they do. Getting stealth and sending somebody up to bait hollow out of the jungle. Then they know once hollow is down and the enemy team is somewhat at a disadvantage they can take a key objective such as raptors. Im not saying you guys dont have the smarts but it seems like you guys are just playing and then whatever happens happens. You win a fight you take an objective. You know what to do when you win a team fight or get a pick, but it seems like you aren't going into every fight with a plan. I may be wrong because i don't know what goes down before a game or before the recording starts but it just seems they are outsmarting you guys at every fight. If you get what i mean. Im excited to see the team grow and improve. I can't wait to see the plays you guys make once you get into a tourny and i will be cheering for Team Ignite.

[@XonixDerps]

Serious teams tend to make plans before games and have a "set" plan for how to deal with the game. I hope his team starts planning things beforehand that be cool to see some strategies unfold :D I like the stealth idea I even saw someone use it in regulars. Riktor+stealth I didnt see it coming haha, they pulled me out and jumped me ( I got out as kallari but still was awesome try)

[@KARMA9]

Keep up these videos man !!! love watching this type of gameplay , i really learn alot from it

[@FryanGosling]

Seeing this in 2020...the feels..

[@MkMischief]

Keep up these videos ace, really good to learn from. Good to know higher level players get a bit salty at teammates too. Would be good to hear the overview / pointers discussed after. Even if not the actual chat between you 5 but just you highlight the key points discussed.

[@guuradubs]

I feel like you guys had a really tough time actually focusing and bursting targets. That Feng took a good 10-15 seconds to actually die and by that time their team had rotated and just cleaned up. Really happy to see these though, people can learn a lot. Keep it up!

[@rajp-eh4eu]

The analysis helps a lot in learning, looking to learn a lot from this.

[@adamsawyer3512]

I personally really enjoy these videos. I find them interesting and pretty insightful :)

[@ap_vagabond8247]

Personally, I think I like these over the analysis ones. Something about hearing the actual communications happening in game helps me know what the calls should sound like when I'm making them to my teammates.

[@Kiriath91]

Hey Ace, I love your content and I've been learning a lot since you started to upload competitive gameplay. Just a thought: when your enemy is really aggressive, your jungler/mid laner should help you more often. I know your jungler was struggling during early game just to be alive (he got ganked several times), but maybe crunch was not a good idea. If he picked Grux or Sevarog maybe the result would be different. I hope you will keep uploading more competitive gameplays!

[@RGSACE93]

Marcos Paulo yeah I think our mid laner needs to rotate more and there's really not much pressure on the enemy carry when he over extends so hopefully this is something we can improve on :) glad you're enjoying the content though

[@j453]

Ace, I've never commented before on one of your vids as i watch on the ps4 app. I have post now though, to say love the scrims, please post more. I am especially enjoying them because im the offlaner on my team. Thanks a million :)

[@ManWhoLaughs2311]

Love these vids, like hearing the coms and the strategies.

[@Excession]

These videos are great, I learn a ton from them, keep them coming! Also when's top 5 week 57 coming? I've submitted a really good clip and have been dying waiting considering it's been a week and 3 or 4 days xD

[@SimplySevv]

Ace kn hour opinion. Which one of these are better? Having for early game cards or having 3 early game cards a few strike tokens and a dummy ward?

[@charlierennoldson6645]

These vids are so helpful. Keep them coming. GO TEAM IGNITE!!

[@cychoboyy]

Be more aggressive with Greystone you got 2 lives bruh don't be scared to use your ultimate and tell your jungler to help more

[@Lowtan]

cychoboyy did you see how he got chunked when he went in? 2 lives dont mean shit if you die in 4 shots.

[@nrhildija4145]

He needs more health, is not all about power.

[@joelmolinarfehr7429]

You say the build is wrong, but he is using a build that the offlaner of the team he was facing made. The build does the job its just the team and solo play.

[@sovereigngreed]

He takes to long to build tank phase. I don't know why he builds thunder cleaver when grey has a lane clearing ability. After the first 3 cards for power, he should start building tank and rotate more for team fights. I feel like he is always in off lane farming away.

[@SuperXaster]

Yeah, as greystone you need to play aggressive as fuck, if not you are not getting anything out of the pick.

[@brandonwatson4829]

My first card when I back as grey is a silver spear with 3 one point health regen upgrades. this allows you to tank those minion waves you were avoiding for so long, and have all your health back in like a minute. You can be much more of a nuisance, and harass the carry when he dares to enter your tower, and he can't regen nearly as fast as you. plus it gives you damage as full upgrade bonus. I feel like that is much more effective early game than madstones, at least in Greystones case. 100% recommend you try it at least. -diamond player

[@adriancalderon362]

you did good, but they where agresive af, and that murdock didnt miss a shot!! nasty!!! i just saw a little detail you could do, and it is to steel their gold buff since the begining, that really helps! keep up the hard work! nice vid 💪

[@iT4ish]

he won't be able to do anything before lvl 5 since dekker will stunn him and he will die from murd after and with that being said there carry was actully feeding lel 0 gamesense and overextending like fuck

[@damianking226]

Adrian Calderon its nimp he is probably one of the best carries in the game 'stealing gold camp is gonna cost you your life cuz nimp hits like 80% of his aa

[@IlanAs08]

It's a really interesting video ! I feel like Crunch is not so good in Competitive though, because everyone is always grouped up mid/end game and he shines in 1v1 or 1v2 but not in team fight. I like how you play offlane, I try to do the same, putting thunder cleaver to push the lanes and make their team rotate on me so that my team has the advantage, I've done only 9 games with Greystone and I've never lost one so I'm afraid to play him now, I don't want to lose that streak xD. Also I've been trying Kallari and Steel offlane with the new patch which are pretty cool :)

[@Blight_0]

Loving the competitive videos, keep em' coming!

[@helmbreaker8622]

Love it there's always something to learn from these

[@nchidoub]

Dude who on your team vapes? I can hear it in their comms!! Love these videos but I wish you played a more interesting position like mid, carry or jungle.

[@Calcifer_Balrog]

I just want to know who's ripping FAT CLOUDS while playing. Cracks me up every time I hear it over comms

[@karalius000]

Finally some interesting Paragon content!

[@NavidGFX]

Is there a Video about the greystone deck?

[@RockSgtHail]

There's loads of things I'm noticing that I'd say your team could improve as a collective and as individuals. But the thing that stands out is you never set lanes at all in offlane, which leaves your team in 4v5s. I know last time it was the teams choice, but I feel you guys need to change it cause it doesn't work against a skilled team unfortunately. But thank you for posting this, learning a lot from your games.

[@Mr666Bunny666]

keep em coming they help with tactics for when i rank up to get to ranked matches

[@rag4824]

Hey ace, my biggest critique pf the team is communication/leadership, You're a tad quiet, and having a shot caller(Someone to decide, take orb, who should push where, raptors etc.)i think would really benefit your team, otherwise not a bad job. I think youre more used to Solo q and with more practice i bet you'd be fine

[@connorhepburn892]

Does someone on your team vape? It sounds like someone is using one once in a while

[@gerrarddunstone2974]

loving the videos man . keep up tbe good work

[@damianking226]

just a little tip for carry players: if you get the tier 1 tower ALWAYS push out the lane then back.

[@RGSACE93]

Yeah you have to push it to the tier 2 otherwise the offlaner can freeze

[@MrCrackurs]

Hey Ace, we spoke before about your Greystone play just a little and I mentioned that I am also an offlaner for my team. Well, I was wondering if you'd ever like to run a scrim between our teams. Your team is likely to win our matches, but the experience would be great for my guys, and I feel like your team would benefit in various ways as well! If you're interested at all, just let me know and I'll add you through Paragon, and we can sort out the details. Great videos man, I look forward to your future bro. :)

[@MrCrackurs]

also, just a note to you about Greystone. have you tried building a 6pt Rustbreaker as your first card rather than a madstone? I've began doing that, and found its helped with dps a whole lot in the early game for me in the offlane. The small amount penetration I feel like is worth more than the small amount of attack speed right at the start.

[@JustCallMeSho]

I wonder if hollow has alot to say, Im curious

[@son1c_youtube]

WHO IS VAPING THERE?

[@brendan4425]

Does RGSACE play for ignite?

[@RGSACE93]

I do :)

[@mattrussell522]

Keep a closer eye on your quenching! Its a weakness of mine as well, e.g. in the prime pit ifairless is nearly dead and you had quenching available, he gets out but could have made it less squeaky bum time

[@ninjaoats1000]

in your opinion grey or feng?

[@herronholford150]

no ash of the witch?

[@NavidGFX]

Did you and your Team tried another tactic to Beat toronto ? Or are you just Training this tactic against them because there are ohne of the best Teams out There

[@viperprecision6001]

"Return to the void"- Unknown.

[@briangrudman591]

These are great man keep it up

[@alexandresc2001]

yes keep doing thise vidios they are great

[@whisp9045]

When you pick your team do you guys go with counter picks? or is it Ult/DPS combinations? or etc......... I question this because I didn't love your team composition. The opponent were huge mana users so why pick a Belica except for her CC(because your team lacked CC besides Narbash if it wasn't for Belica). And I question why use Greystone when you maybe could of benefitted from a burst damage character which you guys didn't really have besides Sparrow. I always question Team comps because people at your levels are good enough that Team comp could be a difference maker. Id love to know your teams strategy when it comes to picking so I can utilize this thinking in my 5 stacks and even solo queuing when I am filling in a role.

[@buddi-ia4217]

Hi ace next time they siege the tier 2 atleast attack the murdock so the minions will focus you and you could have saved the tower imho

[@moba4lyfe900]

how do guys have private matches or scrimmages or private matches please reply #RGSACE

[@ericbartha6313]

EWB 11 code you enter

[@RevMirrane]

there's a gear symbol in the top right of the "play" tab, chose a password then click play, matchmaking will set you up with someone with the same password.

[@boy1da12]

Since the other team always stayed grouped up...you could have put pressure in other lanes to force them to be separate...they bait for team fights because they have dekker to trap you all..while feng or someone else pushes objective

[@julianlapenna7707]

rgsace i like the full gameplay ones

[@juliansanderson8558]

Julian Lapenna why hello Julian for I am the true Julian nice too meet another familiar name

[@callii_san8576]

i really was hoping to see more bloodmordius in this (severog main) wondering how people would play against a good severog

[@callii_san8576]

ya know hoping to see him visit your lane more for ganks ect.

[@ambush9106]

Please tell me your competing in this weeks pcl

[@RGSACE93]

Unfortunately we aren't due to our carry not being available BUT we'll we plan to compete in future tournaments :)

[@godofentity]

You need a straight shot caller, one that isn't argued or disputed.

[@kcbmcgregor721]

love the scrim vids keep going

[@SuperWhaleProduction]

anyone know a good app for finding teammates? a friend and i are looking to start a team.

[@iT4ish]

try paragon fourms

[@katooni1134]

Sup Ace, the videos are great, keep it up!!!

[@TimelessDbz]

Good series . keep them coming .

[@kymtamimi]

Ace you needed one more hero with better cc.. Crunch was bad decision in my opinion, Fey Sev Dekker combo is a freakish death sentence, plus on that I noticed on my previous matches with Belica that's she usually don't stand a chance against Fey! 😅🙃.. Yet I admire your safe strategic playing.. Well played

[@xleaselife]

This was very insightful! Though the constant "There's lots to say but I'm not gonna say it right now" is rather passive aggressive and shitty, whoever that was.

[@TheNemesis360]

Xleaselife it was hollow..

[@onedollarjon]

Xleaselife I think he is just trying to keep people focused and make sure they are not getingt lost in discussing things in depth right then and there. They will assess the game play after and workout where to improve and what went wrong but at that time they just need to accept the mistakes and move on.

[@TheSperko]

Word. GenerationHollow was feeding and just no help in team fights.

[@GenerationHollow]

We had a good discussion after the match about communication and passive play. I didn't want our team to argue or have the conversation during a match, because we had more to learn from it, so should focus on the match at hand. Things went better in the next game, because of the talk we had after. You heard it begin at the end of the video

[@nickolson1203]

these are great. But your really quiet. I know I can crank my volume but than when someone else talks my ears bleed

[@RGSACE93]

Nick Olson ah I'll try mix the sound better for future videos, thanks for letting me know

[@michaelclark556]

Why don't you unlock or upgrade an ability as soon as you can? You spend the beginning with out one for a little bit.

[@daytonprochazka9562]

Michael Clark he is probably waiting to see if he needs one before the other. Like if he gets in trouble early, he can get his jump first.

[@michaelclark556]

Mr. McSax good point. On the heros I play I know what i need and when. But Greystone is a different story.

[@nukebomb24]

There were many times where the team fight could have gone in your favor had you some AOE on your team. There were mistakes made, as you're aware, but even if you made better choices, your team comp would have struggled against theirs.

[@devincharles9820]

Loving the scrims

[@jahmive]

gg really wonder how the game wouldve gone without those escapes

[@misterbean7328]

I think you should try an armor build and and try to be initiator. Especially with ult

[@Jonny_Jigsaw]

I like these competitive videos. We can analyse and watch your team improve over time. There's one noticeable thing I think you could have done better and that's when Murdock and Dekker were sieging your T2 Tower. Dekker had just used her stun and you could have went in on the Murdock. Because you focused the Minions you let Murdock chunk away at the Tower (which ended up falling anyway). You didn't have to 'commit' to it, but by attacking Murdock who was under your Tower, he and Dekker would have HAD to deal with you (and you draw aggro from all, bar the Siege Minion). I think if you do this you would have been able to save the T2 and vital jump pads. Also, your team were already rotating so you could have jumped in on him with confidence. It's a shame you cut off the video straight after the match. I'm curious to know what Hollow said - the 'issues' he noticed throughout the match and ways to improve. I think for future videos you should include a few minutes of your team's discussion after the match so we can gain a better understanding of what you guys were thinking at the time. You all played well and put up a great fight towards the end. In my opinion, there are better Jungler options than Crunch, who lacks hard immediate CC. Grux (who probably was banned) or Kwang would've served your team better.

[@carterwilliamson8504]

Love these vids

[@Buddlightyear]

they ever going to let u mid..love to see that

[@salee7a]

i think ur build stuck in middle, not highly tanky or full damage. Greystone is a basic attack damage so i think u must put a high crit on his damage build, or make him full tank and thats what i prefer for him. gg my friend

[@elijahidemudia1607]

G7 5bzh At high level you don't but crit because you need to survive and if you go full tank you can't do much damage.

[@babyjesus1649]

G7 5bzh building greystone without tank in higher elo games will be useless

[@salee7a]

agreed

[@aymentariq1458]

I hate the deference in graphics between the ps4 pro and the original one ! cant he handle it ?! its just some grass & rocks

[@yassinhammad2791]

First time I played with phase I had the time of my life

[@keiranbrown519]

Yassin Hammad same

[@austinwehunt2379]

Really appreciate your videos, I've been subbed for a while. Content is on point. I think I'm a better player bc of you and others, so thank you, keep it up. Holy_Shasta psn.

[@TimelessDbz]

As others mention you might want to be more aggressive with Greystone but you were getting killed in 4 hits. So maybe build more tank ? Also your jungler needs to know when to pull out or stay out of the jungle . Sometimes you need to stay out the jungle until you have back up ready .

[@BopIT-rf8vt]

13:00 dude you got baited so hard lol

[@Ryan-iv3cz]

tip #1 but the novaborn greystone skin immediately. Tip #2 keep making these vids

[@DjSuperK]

I'm sorry dude but you need to work on defending better. Stand right in front of the tower to protect it or if they are in your tower slap them a little so the minions change their focus to you and not the tower then move back then if the enemy focus your tower again then slap them and back off and then rinse and repeat for as long as you can.

[@tristanford3585]

love it bro

[@lilgonlli9597]

for when kallari gameplay???:)

[@deadghost1189]

New video how to jungle now. The adds hit so hard now.

[@ashywushu]

Your jungle needed to rotate to your lane more often.

[@ashywushu]

This is good stuff tho. keep it up ACE

[@sheikhahmed5779]

Yeah you're right. Crunch needs to help more especially when tier 2 was being pushed

[@DANESP420]

very helpful videos

[@revenant6449]

Might want to a play different offlane like kwang

[@RGSACE93]

Revenant kwang not so great in offlane at the moment, at least in comp

[@aidanthedestroye7742]

RGSACE yeah maybe not kwang but id love to see somthing other then greystonr

[@jhal4267]

TheProEnder first video was feng mao and he was last in the draft on this one so crunch feng and sev were all taken already

[@graysonhall6538]

Try building Greystone Tanky he is much more obnoxious to deal with and can last a lot longer in team fights

[@NinTheLost]

Grayson Hall how much tank is enough?

[@danielesquinca8337]

Great video

[@grumpyhead2379]

Were you nervous? You were performing worse than your solo Q

[@loveit6239]

love the video

[@SmartJock69]

The lack of aggression and rotation of the jungler to help you really hindered the game. Then the passive aggressive comments and the arguments. I'm sorry but I don't see this team doing well not for the lack of skill but I couldn't be a teammate with a guy like Hollow. He made a lot of mistakes and didn't improvise or adapt. I wish you the best Ace because you're a respectable guy. Also the dude with the Vaping is annoying as hell!

[@justshoxh]

Yaaaas

[@noonie1034]

Your going to have build a tanker greystone and rotate more just clear the ranged minions roatate you not roatating is bad you may say oh lack in farm but being late to team fight making team lose cause weren't there is not good at the at the start you could still had your left tower too also make sure your warding countless time I seen you have ward over extended without placing vision you should also make wards your first card after you have health pot and healer token so you vision on your side