SEAT LEON CUPRA A 4 YEAR REVIEW // MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE?

[@stephanelecreux6840]

I used to have a 2017 5door DSG6 290hp. I bought it with 80.000km and sold it at 115.000. 35.000km in 2 years. Maintenance costs : 1 oil + filter change every year, 1 DSG + Haldex oil change before selling, 4 tires, rear brake pads once, and 2 leaky front dampers (DCC means Dampers can cost). But prices were ok-ish (apart dampers, 1000€...). For a performance car in its second part of life, it retained most of its value, having bought it for 27k€ and sold for 24.5. So, in the end, really reasonable costs for an ICE sporty car.

[@ZenthYT]

Just bought the 2019 Lux 290 version and I love it 22.5k but for low miles great service history 👌🏻

[@thomas1x635]

what made you got for the cupra and not a s3 or golf r for example

[@spanielmate562]

@@thomas1x635what’s making me go for a 290 is insurance premiums. £900 a year for the Cupra. £1800 for R and S3 also the amount of R’s and S3’s that get stolen in the uk is through the roof. Cupras will hold their own to the R and S3 respectively and are better for fuel economy.

[@samgill133]

@@thomas1x635I would assume the price perhaps?

[@thomas1x635]

@@samgill133 suppose if its outiright bought yeh, if its finance there's not a crazy difference in the monthly paywmnts

[@yusafmalik5171]

@@thomas1x635insurance is a massive factor as well

[@B9_S4]

I've had my 2020 Cupra Lux for a few months now it's been brilliant

[@chrisnorris1383]

What’s the sound like? Does it have any dsg farts or pops and bangs?

[@B9_S4]

@@chrisnorris1383 as long as your in at least sport or cupra mode, you will hear the dsg bangs if you floor it, it also sounds really good stock.

[@gLOWbalx]

​@@chrisnorris1383Mine sounds like a vacuum cleaner. 2020 300 ST

[@ByronWWW]

The seat sound system upgrade is pretty good, worth getting that if possible. The drivers side window switches are in an odd position, 4 years on and I still push the rear window switch instead of the front. Thermostat housing went on mine along with high pressure fuel pump and a top rail injector. VW and SEAT are rip offs - avoid their dealerships. I also had to tell them it had a diff, they didn't know anything about how to service it or what the intervals on things were - 2 different dealerships and both were the same crap experience. They wanted to change brakes and discs when they still had at least 3-4 years left in them too. Start stop still works with a map - on the manual it does sometimes cut out while you are still rolling forward (which cuts power steering and braking).

[@jonnyvt6602]

Took mine to the Steelers (for the last) time at 80k and during the 'safety check's they missed a huge dent on the inside of one of the wheels!! I service the car myself now; I do it every six months, or 2.5k

[@leatt6136]

Glad to see I’m not the only one opening rear windows accidentally

[@shamu7014]

Great review! I had a 2015 280 fwd which I loved in the dry, but I did get fed up with not being able to put down power in the wet. The axle tramp on hard acceleration in first was just horrendous. My previous car was a scoob, so I missed the traction. I swapped for a 2019 st 300 4 drive and am enjoying that much more. It’s my first DSG and while I’d always go manual for a proper sports car, the 7 spd DSG is amazing for a family car. No more lurching passengers on gear changes! 😂It is less sharp on turn in, without the diff, but that doesn’t bother me too much. Regarding main dealers, the team at St Leonard’s are brilliant if you’re within reach of there. They’re honest, know their stuff and have been nothing short of brilliant on customer service.

[@lastnamefirstname520]

I am running an R ST for 5 ys now, its also tuned. No issues never once did it have a problem. Only scheduled maintenance

[@arjunpatel5443]

My local vag specialist would probably advise diff to be done maybe 40k miles

[@NowsNu]

Haha, nice ending, it's like two cupra's in one that new car! What power! Just when I was about to say, so you're buying a e63s then... I guess I'll have to wait and see what it actually is :-)

[@Timesplitter86]

Driving a Cupra R for 3 years now, completely problem free. Had a Megane RS 280 EDC for 2 years before that, that came with more montly problems than my wife 😂

[@Xtremerzzz]

Would u prefer a m140 or the cupra r

[@Timesplitter86]

@@Xtremerzzz I guess the m140 if I wouldn't have a wife, child and dog. But the Cupra fits my family a lot better.

[@Xtremerzzz]

@@Timesplitter86 would u trade it in for a audi s3 2017+ (only asking for ur opinion if you'd prefer a s3 over the cupra)

[@Timesplitter86]

@@Xtremerzzz Nope, also not for a RS3. Don't know why, but I have the feeling the Cupra is more sporty/agile than the Audi S models (although probably slower in a straight line). Besides the S3 has the same problem as the m140: no stationwagen so about 40cm less depth in the booth. I would consider a 2019+ RS4. But that is a pretty different price class.

[@joemooney43]

Went out and test drove one of these today and was blown away. Had my eye on one for a while and I’m finally ready to buy a new car. I’m a bit stuck between this and a focus ST. ST is cheaper so that tempts me but I absolutely loved this car. Drove an ST as well a couple weeks ago and handled fantastic but in a straight line I felt it was a little bit of a let down. Just personal opinion. Loved the manual gear box though. Decisions!

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

The ST is more fun i'd say but the cupra has a certain charm about it.

[@georgefarrell7819]

I worked at BCA at one of these was my last carry over (bring home) car. Had it for a fun couple of days before returning it! Saving up for another 124 Abarth at the moment but since driving this it’s between this and the 124 now 😀

[@oddities-whatnot]

I used to collect a lot of cars from BCA all over the UK. Got some decent motors.

[@thepeller210]

Had 2, the first one a used manual 280. Clutch let go then throttle body went. Everything replaced under warranty but it was feeling ropey after 20k miles. I then got a 2018 GPF DSG, it was okay, had the shocks replaced and failed thermostat housing (29k at dealer) then at 32k miles the waterpump decided to go! I had enough and chopped in for a BMW 340i, it's a much nicer car and no repairs needed in 3 years

[@cliveneilands1449]

I had a 15 Cupra 280 ST performance pack (370mm Brembo), Seat Sound which is made by Beats By Dre. I did do a res delete and it sounded great, didn't want a full system as it would be too loud. Was quick and a problem free car. Had it for 2 years and traded it in for a Skoda Superb, I only lost the equivalent of about 1000 pounds in 2 years, they hold value well, especially the Performance Pack editions.

[@ResevoirGod]

What are you replacing it with? My 2020 Cupra goes back in September. Very much enjoyed it but do miss driving a manual!

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

Check out the end 😉

[@JPOW94]

I miss a manual aswell only had mine 8 months

[@cliveneilands1449]

Start stop systems are false economy, the amount of fuel saved does not amount to much, especially if you need to change the battery or starter. Code it out is best in my opinion.

[@mkultra3679]

Depends on the environment you are driving in, if you drive in city traffic all the time it's worth it

[@itsamemo9632]

In the cupra the start stop makes a big difference 😂 went from 15-20mpg to 30mpg local

[@davidcarvalho1904]

That’s false. You’ll get an economy of 10-15% easy. Plus, the battery for start and stop are not that expensive

[@XtremMaker]

I got my 290 leon cupra from 2016 (Pre restyle) few months ago and i'm in love with it, i just really love the fact it can make so low fuel consumption when i'm at eco mode at the highway or back roads (If you're courious, i live in spain, i do 6.5-7.5L/100km, and not driving like a grandma like he says hehe, just speed limits and some fun sometimes). It's manual and just did a resonator and muffler delete with valves (Got a sport muffler when it's closed), i'm in love, not ecu stage and in cupra mode it's a pop festival. I hope i can have it for a few years so i can save money for my dream car (M2 competition), but, it's a good car. If someone have questions about it, feel free to ask :)

[@t_brand]

I ran my manual 290 estate in eco in the beginning to get a benchmark. After about two to three tanks I changed the individuation setting to a mix out of sport and cupra. Guess what: fuel consumption is a fraction lower and the car makes so much more fun! Enjoy yours!

[@XtremMaker]

@@t_brand How is that possible? Damn, I'll give it a try so when i fuel up my tank this week hehe. Thanks mate!

[@t_brand]

@XtremMaker you're welcome. Just don't give it the beans all the time ange you should be fine. I coast whenever possible but since you'll have boost available way earlier and with the LSD active, the car is a beast 🤘

[@HoliSupps]

Hi, I have a question. You mentioned the 2016 pre re style, are you referring to the face lift? If so, how does one tell whether their 2016 is pre or post face lift, thanks.

[@jonnyvt6602]

Have Seat Sound on mine, and it's great

[@Knighttus]

What do you mean it sounds okay? It sounds AMAZING

[@jonnyvt6602]

And yes, the seat dealer never prompted the diff service, so i had it done at VW

[@nowiplay2]

When you said time to jump into something a little bit more me, in my head I just said he’s definitely getting a BMW 😂😂. Not sure what you’ve got but I love my M240i.. a sports cat and software tune, it’s ridiculous. It was lovely stock as well tbf

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

You know me too well haha. Went for a 140i as to why, i'll cover it in a review 😉.

[@jonathanmellor7659]

Bought a slightly older cupra 280 in May and its having the coolant pump replaced after already have this done previously and has oil leaks in multiple places. Starting to think I've bought a right lemon.

[@xXxtremeboy2]

i have a leon cupra 300 2018 and i have problem with the cooling system. i have still 1 month left of warranty and i will send it to be repaired. Anyone had such problems? mine is constantly leaking from somewhere i don't know exactly but i get warning for low level coolant. There are no spots under the car and it's not mixing it with the engine oil. 🤷‍♂️

[@JacobWood-ve2ig]

Are these easily stolen? I’ve had my fiesta ST stolen so looking for a new car and the cupra 290 is on the list.

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

as long as you don’t have keyless entry you’ll be ok. My one was stolen by being dragged onto a low loader.

[@infinite_azure_]

Main reason for the insurance on the golf R is probably cos of how ridiculous the theft rates are on them- some thieves arent gonna know just how rapid the cupra is since it hasnt got the brand recognition yet

[@Ianw236]

They won’t insure keyless VAG hot hatches in the west midlands with declared mods unless you get an aftermarket immobilser too

[@jwester7009]

Isn't it more like like a GTI Clubsport than a Golf R ?

[@Ianw236]

Should have gone with the lux and the better seats ! Ours is going next month too after 4 years. Same colour but the Lux model. Never had 1 issue at all.

[@liam-08837]

I’ve had my first car now for a year or so, so I’m waiting till my insurance finishes and I can get my 1 year no claim bonus. I’m gonna save and buy one of these for my second car, I don’t care how long it takes I want one.

[@dannyjayke8695]

You think 1 years no claims is going to make a difference you’ve had your first car a year so you’ve only had a years experience sorry to tell you your not getting insured on one of these doesn’t matter how long you’ve had your license the fact you’ve only been driving 1 year you’ve got no driving experience

[@liam-08837]

@@dannyjayke8695 mate I’ve been driving for longer than a year it’s just that I’ve changed insurance companies multiple times so I’ve never had a full year. I’m also a pcv driver so that shoots your insurance down, by the time I insure it I’ll be 21. I think I’m good mate. I’ve never crashed, never had anything on my insurance to make it more expensive, only reason I haven’t got a years no claims is because I’ve swapped loads of times because it’s cheaper. It’s only a 2.0 turbo

[@yusafmalik5171]

@@liam-08837Depends entirely on where you live. 21 doesn’t reduce the rate much sadly. Especially with how much insurance companies want to shaft everyone nowadays. For me at 23 it still costs close to 2K and that’s with 4 years ncb. Can’t even do second driver as it’s counts as a “crime” now!!

[@liam-08837]

@@yusafmalik5171 really how does having multiple people like mum and dad count as a crime??

[@oddities-whatnot]

I was thinking about a Leon Cupra but im concerned about reliability issues. Weird considering its VW group.

[@fizzel5711]

Great review - I’m Currently driving a f30 335d xdrive and wanting to go for the touring 340i but tempted by the abt seat cupra estate - would love to know your thoughts

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

I'm in a 140i now so i'd go with the 340i touring over the cupra r st. The cupra is amazing (especially the R ST) but the build quality on the bmw does feel better. Also, the engine in the 340i is amazing.

[@fizzel5711]

@@ParagonCarsLondonthank you so much - only the £10,000 plus difference to manage 😂 There are 3abt varients on sale on auto trader atm for around £28k which I think is reasonable given what you get where as the cheapest 340i touring with the xdrive is £40,000 plus . Can’t fault my 335d- wolf in sheep’s clothing and a seriously rapid car but with subpar steering feedback and ropey suspension .

[@Birmingham_racing]

A lot of fun for the money

[@leonmovrin2205]

Nice car. So does need service in diff?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

yeah

[@spills_n_thrills]

vRS with a stage 1 is even more economical to run

[@Samg95]

Hey man! Just curious, is there any reason it’s going to auction? Would you not get more money selling it privately / at Paragon Cars?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

It was a lease vehicle, hence why it was so cheap. Only downside with leasing is you don’t always get the option to buy it at the end.

[@dsmesser]

Great review - found it very helpful as I’m in a toss up between a GTI PP and Cupra as they’re both very similarly priced at the moment! How much did you actually use the DCC? Became a necessity or more of a luxury option? As very few GTI’s have it specced Re. the colour - not yet gone to view a magnetic grey one; however, is it actually grey or with a hint of blue in-person? Cheers!

[@g_aln6658]

DCC is engaged every time you select Cupra mode so quite a bit if your using that mode for B-road driving

[@jonnyvt6602]

Had a Jb4 on it for a while, was mental in mid range, but made my (manual) clutch slip, so took it off. disconnected my sound generator, was annoying. Bought mine new in 2015, and its still valued at around 13k, so seriously good value.

[@autozoomies]

4:54 not like me who spent £4k on fuel in a year 😆😆

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

Can't put a price on smiles per mile haha.

[@hammadrehman3507]

Has anyone had an issue with their MAF sensor? 2015 seat Leon cupra? Just had an issue with the car randomly revving up and down, and I checked the Carly app which pointed to the MAF Sensor

[@robinmarples5198]

Have the 280 in manual...Nice, but still regrate my 265 cup megane. More fiability in my experience, more sporty feel, more expressive engine, not more expensive to run for the megane

[@qoa9985]

can you say this again but in english? I'm struggling to pick between the megane or cupra

[@robinmarples5198]

@@qoa9985 i am french living in France. Could you answer in french please. Thanks

[@qoa9985]

@@robinmarples5198 🤣🤣❤️

[@qoa9985]

@@robinmarples5198 just found your same comment on AutoTopNL Cupra 290 review 2 years ago, still regretting the megane?

[@robinmarples5198]

@@qoa9985 of course. How could it be the same? The megane for the price is still unbeatable. Even by the last one

[@xXxtremeboy2]

how much did it cost the stage 1 remapping and all the mods overall?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

£600 for a revo stage 1 and i think was about £180 for the VAG Sport res delete fitted.

[@ranse15]

Just noticed that my 2020 Cupra doesn't display the little Cupra flag in the middle of the speedo like yours shows? Ha

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

is it the new shape of cupra leon or like mine?

[@ranse15]

Exactly the same as yours, even down to the colour

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

@@ranse15 that’s really odd haha

[@Danny_The_Goat]

Did you run it on E10?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

nah, tesco momentum 99.

[@thatsbigdave]

I got the ST AWD version just had my waterpump/thermostat replaced on mine fingers crossed it stays ok as I have seen people say they have changed there’s few times in two years

[@anthonymeek4248]

Did you try the FWD for a test drive. I’d be keen to hear your thoughts.

[@thatsbigdave]

@@anthonymeek4248 Yeah mate my cousin had FWD one and I was looking after it for couple months while he was awake working, fantastic car handled really well, good on the twisty roads but sometimes can struggle of the line, the AWD is amazing so much grip and off the line it’s very quick and for an estate it handles the twisty unbelievably but it doesn’t give you the thrill as the FWD version

[@patrickgeorge4518]

What’s your preferred choice? Considering buying either a cupra 290 or an m140i this week Obvs the m140i has no LSD so buy the time that is fitted will cost circa £20k for the m140i Cupra 290 can pick up for around £16-17k Thoughts?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

@@patrickgeorge4518 I went from the cupra to the M140i and personally i’d never go back. Even in stock form i find the 140i much more fun. Better sound, rwd and even more headroom for tuning

[@patrickgeorge4518]

@@ParagonCarsLondon What about with the LSD? Decisions decisions Cupra seems appealing as it would handle well being stock whereas m140i realistically needs a bit of money spent to make it handle well

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

@@patrickgeorge4518 With the lsd it’s amazing. Only other major thing i’d change is the suspension. Bilstein B8’s are a good choice.

[@patrickgeorge4518]

@@ParagonCarsLondon Do you have an LSD in your one? Thanks for the reply

[@marksheridan8444]

What are the best deals out there for a Leon Cupra I want one so baddd!!

[@cain6746]

I brought a 2019 290 in March for 20500 pcp deal with a 4k deposit and 10k per year miles pay 280 a month

[@xXxtremeboy2]

here in Germany cupra 2019 290 full extras are around 26k Euros with around 50k kilometers on the Odo. Is this a good deal ? what you guys think ?

[@xXxtremeboy2]

@cain6746 what you think?

[@cain6746]

@@xXxtremeboy2 I dont know if the market are different from the UK to Germany but had a look on autotarde and they're cupra lux form 18k pounds with 60k miles and most of them are on around 30k miles for around 20k pounds

[@xXxtremeboy2]

@cain6746 I'm going tomorrow to check one. Leon cupra 300 from 2018 for 28k euros (around 24k £ converted) with all the extras except the brembo brakes and with 45k km on the Odo. ( around 28k miles) What do you think ? Also there was apparently a performance pack as optional when you buy it new but I don't know what includes . Is that the brembo brakes only for the performance pack maybe the sports seats as well (the ones that the headrest is combined like not extending at all). What can you say about it ?

[@Whiponized]

awesomme video

[@Michael-wz5iv]

Hi, did you notice any loss in performance/acceleration with your cupra over the 4 years you had it?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

nah not at all.

[@Jonsk111]

Cars dont lose power if everything is alright

[@toughhorizon529]

180 pound a month for 1000 miles?!?! crazy

[@jackward-ds1ue]

Not a M140i shit handling especially with no LSD. You’ll miss the Cupra

[@anthonymeek4248]

The B58 engine note though 🤤

[@mothbreeder641]

No, he won't. Had a 2014 M135i. It's beyond ridiculously fun with a straight 6 hot hatch..