Paramotor Student Fatality Video Analysis

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Kyle O'Glee

Kyle O'Glee

Күн бұрын

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@ParamotorNC
@ParamotorNC Жыл бұрын
I understand why people like to train ppg at the beach; the laminar wind can be helpful for inflations. However, the danger of overshooting the landing raises the stakes and add pressure onto the student. I’d love for new students to have a huge field or even a long grass airstrip for a first flight so they can overshoot their landing without danger. Then the command “hands up, let the glider fly” can be obeyed without the additional stress / fear of a water landing.
@sl5311
@sl5311 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that add'l pressure to get it right would be an issue, I can see it.
@eddiepreas3693
@eddiepreas3693 Жыл бұрын
I see ur point
@tomtomlinsonppg2756
@tomtomlinsonppg2756 Жыл бұрын
Horrible. Prayers to the pilot and their family. Thank you for the breakdown Kyle. God bless.
@o0o-jd-o0o95
@o0o-jd-o0o95 Жыл бұрын
I can appreciate that you emphasized that you don't know what's really going on and you can speculate all day but you're not really going to and you even mentioned it's a vibe. and i like that about you. I hate when people just jump to conclusions and don't know what they're talking about. And you did not do that. That tells me you're probably an honest fellow
@MarkLoves2Fly
@MarkLoves2Fly Жыл бұрын
Much Love Kyle O'. Yes, the pilot had their hands deep in the breaks throughout the flight. I saw right away what was going on. IMHO starting out with a strong free-flight experience is probably worth looking into. Not everyone has a good hill to fly from but tow up is a good alternative. There was a lot going on in this video, and from my limited perspective, the conditions seemed too strong for the pilot. Fear does funny things to people. In this case they appeared tense, and as you stated, were overcontrolling the glider. My own instructor said, "Hands up, and let it fly." I've heard you say the same many times. Our wings will fly themselves, as evidenced by a friend of mine who passed away mid-flight from a medical condition. His glider flew beautifully the only indication there was an issue, was that he was VERY close to the trees, and flew right into one. We got to him very quickly, but he had passed before even getting near the tree. Sad as this sounds, if we let the wing do what it is designed to do there will be less trouble. I love your content, even when it is less than happy. Keep doing what you do. Blue Skies & Fly in Peace (>*
@shanesplanetshane3795
@shanesplanetshane3795 Жыл бұрын
Hands up... Staying deep in the brakes the entire time, he wasnt flying he was floating....barely.
@ChadDidNothingWrong
@ChadDidNothingWrong Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a way to leave this world. I imagine that must have been very confusing for you guys in the moment. So unexpected.
@jerrydelyea5820
@jerrydelyea5820 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle, and every-one. I have been in the sport for longer than most, I have seen a lot of bad stuff, I won’t go in to detail. I was a pg instructor and tandem pilot for a good number of years. As an instructor you do your best to try and judge when a student can be trusted to do that first solo. I had many that aced it, had a few that scared the shit out of me. Some are better than others at remaining cool. This fellow looked to me like he was really having a bit of a panic and at the end I saw it like he wanted to get down, when he was close, he turned left, it scared him and he way over corrected to the right . The vid wasn’t too clear for me to see. Either way. I feel horrible for him and his family. Good analysis Kyle.
@900stx7
@900stx7 Жыл бұрын
I've never flown my self, but it did look like ones he was back over dry land he made an attempt to desend and land, but as he approached the water again with still too much altitude he panicked, tried turning back around and lost it.
@Voltairus30
@Voltairus30 11 ай бұрын
From every video I've seen from those in the sport, even experienced fliers purposefully choose not to fly during the day unless its stupidly good conditions. Especially when you take into account the fact its near/over the ocean and the winds that creates as well, I don't get how any instructor would allow a novice flier go out in those conditions much less a first timer if that was in fact the case.
@sunglint
@sunglint Жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this, it's a valuable lesson. Not all content is funny, but I appreciate your respectful approach.
@kennethhacker3014
@kennethhacker3014 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for educating us on this horrific accident...you are aware of his mistakes and shared it with us and I thank you brother
@BlkCal30t
@BlkCal30t Жыл бұрын
Always good to hear your thoughts on these things Kyle. Keep up the great vids mate.
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 Жыл бұрын
My condolences to family and friends. Thx Kyle for posting. So true, the only way to keep others safe is by learning, sadly, sometimes through the fatal mistakes of others. Best wishes to all.
@pauljmeyer1
@pauljmeyer1 Жыл бұрын
Near stalling speed and a one-sided over-correction leading to a death spiral. We must keep in mind, that especially in windy conditions, to maintain good headway. May this pilot's death not be in vain so we may learn from his errors, RIP.
@davidebbs6146
@davidebbs6146 Жыл бұрын
Headway? Basic airmanship, the wing and pilot has no idea whether it is upwind, down wind or across the wind. Headway is only relevant to the ground.
@zbigniewszczesny
@zbigniewszczesny Жыл бұрын
I had a situation like that. I`m alive cos landed on 7 meter tall trees. I was free flying on a cliff about 15 meters high. It was boring, so I stopped in some places to make shadows for people lying on the beach. To do this, I brake with both hands all the time. When I decided to stop flying, I tightened the left brake and then released both. I saw the wing almost below me and ended the flight landing in the trees.
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 Жыл бұрын
Cor blimey Zbiggy. Someone was watching over you... I'm very glad.
@henrybartlett1986
@henrybartlett1986 Жыл бұрын
Paragliding takes a lot of practice and experience which builds your preparation and options. When in doubt, check height, hands up for speed and steer to a clear space for your mind and the glider. Many times when I first started the fixation on doing one thing eclipsed the alternatives. Have a plan A,B, and C! As long as you can land safely it doesn’t matter where it is.
@verve6000
@verve6000 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks Kyle O. As a PPG/PG pilot in Australia, my best learnings were from Ewa Wisnierska who flew for up to an hour near 10,000 feet while unconcious and survived! The glider will fly itself if no input!!! I fly with consistent light break input, to turn left I look left, lean left and RAISE MY RIGHT HAND before I give any left input. Sometimes this is all I need, sometmes some more left brake input, but hands up is one of the most important lessons we can all learn 🪂🪂
@Haribo211
@Haribo211 Жыл бұрын
A bit of a correction - she got lifted up to 10 k meters actually, not feet, which is even more insane!
@verve6000
@verve6000 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Art-J, you are correct, no input from the pilot and she flew higher than mount Everest, at the cruising altitude of trans-continental jets. A clear learning that we as pilots are mostly just weight for balance. The less inexperienced pilots yank at the controls, the better.
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 Жыл бұрын
Verve, thanks for pointing me in the direction of Ewa Wisnierska, amazing! Over 30,000 feet! How is it possible? She must have been supremely fit.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite Жыл бұрын
R.I.P., pilot.😢 Prayers for his friends, family, and the instructor and everyone else there who had to watch that happen in real time. I think you nailed it, Kyle. Just a matter of the wrong inputs at the wrong time, and possibly in the wrong conditions for a new pilot, IMHO. We don’t know what we don’t know. I remember on my first flight, the one thing that stuck in my head from not just my instructor, but from all the things I watched and read about on KZbin, and in the Paramotor Bible was to go hands up on a beginner wing if anything goes sideways. So, the very first time my wheels left the ground, my hands were up! I kept checking myself to make sure I kept them there. There’s something to be said for learning as much as you can long before you even get instruction. Thanks for posting this, Kyle. It will undoubtedly help somebody, and possibly save their life.
@vmlinuxz
@vmlinuxz Жыл бұрын
That's a rough one to cover man. I think you did it gracefully. I had my first unintended stall on freeflight launch a month ago. New pod harness and tried to get in too early off launch focusing on harness instead of graceful launch and accidentally gave too much brake. Going hands up saved the day, but for a new person it may not have been obvious.
@davidebbs6146
@davidebbs6146 Жыл бұрын
Poor guy did big handfuls of everything. When he was way out to sea, if he had been told to shut the throttle and put his hand to the risers he would have most likely got away with it safely. The incoming sea breeze would have brought him back to the beach, even if the wing had turned 180° he may well have had a fast ground approach but it would have been more stable. As it was, with one brake deep and the other side of the wing flying the pilot clearly pulled both brakes really hard and opened the throttle wide too, once that happened there was no way back whatever the height. As others have said, "let the wing fly". No matter how scary the ride becomes, let the wing work by not giving it inputs and control the height by use of steady power.
@eddiepreas3693
@eddiepreas3693 Жыл бұрын
Well done Kyle informative as well as tactfully done
@james7705
@james7705 Жыл бұрын
I think beaches are great for kiting and easy inflations. However, maybe not the best location for first inflation.,. High winds, water hazards, restricted LZs etc. I'm not an instructor but if I was I would pick calm winds inland for first flights.
@sl5311
@sl5311 Жыл бұрын
Yes and what I hear in the video is the student's psychology matters. Are they over conscientious in general. Are they athletes that have a sense of things? I don't know what I am trying to say but it seems like there are things here.
@David65702
@David65702 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle. Anytime something like this happens it sucks it can happen to any of us. I appreciate you guys analyze it. Maybe help us from doing the same thing.
@larrykorell750
@larrykorell750 Жыл бұрын
Just my point of view....Training a new student over water is not good (we know water is one of our greatest enemies)....training a new student in strong winds is also not good, laminar or not (this requires experienced glider control...which is why we teach inland on calm, low wind days)....student should be told (drilled into their head before they ever fly) just have your hands on the brakes with the weight of your arms hanging....don't pull down unless to turn...that way it helps, doesn't prevent, but helps keep the wing flying without for and aft movements that could lead to such a crash. And at a minimum, when in doubt, hands up and let the glider fly...My heart goes out to his friends, family, and the instructor.....they'll never be the same....thanks for posting Kyle....lots to learn from this....
@glydrfreak
@glydrfreak Жыл бұрын
You know, this is helpful to watch from an instructor perspective, as unfortunate as it is. Say it was a situation where the student over controlled, it’s astounding to see that a student could over control that much. Gives an extra perspective that you never really know how a student could respond to certain situations.
@theK8pTn-G
@theK8pTn-G Жыл бұрын
Mate you have the best accent I have ever heard. I would buy all of your audiobooks. 🥰😄🥰 Woeful tragedy, the expression in your voice is a beautiful and very respectful analysis in itself. Much appreciated.
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
Thanks thek. I rather enjoy the aussie accent myself.
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 Жыл бұрын
What the.....?😁
@austinkaufman9402
@austinkaufman9402 Жыл бұрын
Seemed like the wind was way to high for a new pilot
@KilkennyLights
@KilkennyLights Жыл бұрын
Hello Kyle. Frank from Ireland here. 16 years PG and Low hours on PPG. PPG is weird as it scares me with the noise and weight to consider on landing. In this case we can see the Fear in the Student. The wind is strong, the Student wants to get down so badly he gets deep in the brakes over landing Zone. I also hear the motor throttle up just before impact. Very sad for everyone involved. Paragliding and PPG are dangerous sports. I still get scared every time I fly. Thank God as the more confident I am the more I push the envelope. Fly high and Fly safe and progress slowly in this sport or it will teach you a lesson you may not recover from. So much respect is needed when dealing with mother nature.
@paultanner3053
@paultanner3053 Жыл бұрын
Years ago there was a hg fatality at London bridge,(Portsea, Australia,,, beginner stress,,veritable geometry application,and limited time,ends in tragedy,,the human brain,/mind can only handle so much,,,we need to do better,,take smaller steps
@DougBow96
@DougBow96 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis 😎👍 Very sad. 😭, Aviation lessons are written in blood. Unfortunately, sometimes this is how we learn.
@CineSoar
@CineSoar Жыл бұрын
So sad. @ 2:50 His friend says "Eu te vejo!" = "I see you!" and laughs. This was an adventure, that turned tragic in seconds, for so many people. Like Kyle, I can't make out much of what the instructor is saying, apart from "Esquerda! Esquerda! Esquerda! Mais esquerda!" "Left! Left More left!"
@markmcgoveran6811
@markmcgoveran6811 Жыл бұрын
He was just barely above the stall he was breaking so slow and when he raised his left hand instead of his right he released all the energy on one side instead of lifting both hands for a swoop. I also agree with you on the idea that the motor torque went against him if he turned off the left break and not the right. My heart breaks for this guy's family and this guy as well. Would a person be just as well to kind of trying to stay out of the breaks flying a paraglider?
@Barbreck1
@Barbreck1 Жыл бұрын
Immediate impression is the conditions were too windy for safe low-level flight… and most especially for a student.
@piltz5583
@piltz5583 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a paramotor pilot, but, in addition to the errors you noted, the downwind turn had to contribute to the sink rate.
@harrisondawes5922
@harrisondawes5922 Жыл бұрын
From the look he definitely used only right that put the wing into the spiral but the sound also seems to indicates he also pulled more throttle which you can see pitch up first then aggressively entered the spiral
@2011mendo
@2011mendo Жыл бұрын
Not so much as to what he did wrong,,, at what point, (from all the way back to when he crossed from the water to overland,) could he, or should he, have done? . It's obvious it's windy, new pilot, moving fast and probably scared, is there, or was there, a let's calm down and regroup time??? Climb and relax, or break off from trying to come in... WHAT? Use throttle? Don't use throttle? Those are the kinda things us newbie's need to hear from you experienced folks... Thanks
@shanesplanetshane3795
@shanesplanetshane3795 Жыл бұрын
DId he ever go hands up? It seemed like he was near stall at most times. At one point he let one hand up and a spiral ensued. I just assume some of the words from the instructor, included : "hands up". I've found that power has less to do with it than brakes. Not enough power, doesnt lead to a stall, unless you've too much brake. As someone else mentioned, I think he was hanging from those brakes for fear had him thinking that brakes and slow, is safer.
@terjeoseberg990
@terjeoseberg990 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the right side of his wing stalled. He was definitely flying too slow which makes the wing more unstable and difficult to control. When learning to fly an airplane, we go above 5,000 feet then try to fly slower and slower by reducing the power and pitching up to maintain a constant altitude until the plane starts stalling. Then the goal is to try to keep the plane going straight while it stalls, then once you fail, you recover by throttling up and pitch forward to regain speed. Had this pilot had experience with this maneuver, he’d probably understand how dangerous it is to fly so close to stall speed while so close to the ground. In an airplane you can have two pilots, so the instructor can rescue you when you screw up. I don’t know if they can do the same thing with a paraglider, but it seems like you should. Flying slowly seems to be the natural instinct for new pilots who don’t understand what a stall is, so the first thing that should be taught is what a stall is.
@markmcgoveran6811
@markmcgoveran6811 Жыл бұрын
That's the best kind of pilot right there it can't do him any good either way so he told everybody to try and learn from this tragedy.
@animeniac978
@animeniac978 Жыл бұрын
We've all been conditioned by bicycles, cars etc if something's going wrong, hit the brakes. I think this fellow was deep into fear/panic before the vid started, and that resulted in an almost instinctive reaction to brake...or even just to hang onto something (brakes being a really bad choice). IMO an overlooked benefit of that first tow is that's the first chance you have to really discover if you're going to like hanging from a bunch of strings in the sky. If the answer is no, that's the time to quit or do more homework. I wonder if that student ever did a tow?
@PJHEATERMAN
@PJHEATERMAN Жыл бұрын
Just like any fixed wing aircraft, you lose your vertical component of lift in a steep bank. I practiced steep turns at altitude to simulate altitude loss as well as accelerated stalls.
@MarinaOslova
@MarinaOslova Жыл бұрын
You're right on this point and when you enter into a stall with a small airplane it is very easy to apply rudders to the wrong side, exactly what this pilot seems to do.
@rule1dontgosplat
@rule1dontgosplat Жыл бұрын
Ouch. I’m just learning but from everything i’ve seen so far it looked a little rough and windy to me. I wonder if the student saw they were going back out over the water and were trying to make a quick circle and come in lower, and didn’t really know what to do.
@charliewatts6895
@charliewatts6895 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I suspect that. May be a case where a little knowledge is dangerous. If you had a lot more height to do that it would have worked out. But I think he misjudged capability. Also too windy for him to be up - whitecaps on the waves.
@jewelmock4946
@jewelmock4946 Жыл бұрын
Making a downwind turn on a parachute at a low altitude and then turning back into the wind is risky business in gusty conditions. Wind turbulence near the ground most likely caused the stall and spin. The pilot had two options for a safe landing. (1) Climb to about 400 feet AGL, reduce power and slowly turn into the wind and land. (2) Continue to descend downwind and make a downwind landing and then spend the rest of the day picking the sandspurs out of your butt area.
@bakkerem1967
@bakkerem1967 Жыл бұрын
Sad to see he is not able to learn from these mistakes. RIP.
@EricCarroll-ys5jw
@EricCarroll-ys5jw 7 ай бұрын
Hello Kyle I was wondering how much you would charge to tell me how to get my paramotor up running
@glideamerica
@glideamerica Жыл бұрын
Oscillations can be very powerful. He needed left brake to stop it. Perhaps he simply pulled right, instead of left. Oscillations can be disorienting, if you are not active flying. Turning sharply low to the ground, can get tricky, and that is where most of the danger is.
@robkuijer9273
@robkuijer9273 Жыл бұрын
is anyone else bothered by the communication style of the instructor? I might miss something in translation here. But "left, left more left" doesn't sound nearly as effective as: "I want you to take a left 180 degree turn towards landmark X". It might not have prevented this accident, but I think clearly communicating in this way would help a great deal towards making the student less nervous.
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
Same vibes here. Pilot was clearly tense. Instructor had a tensed tone as well as an urgency in his voice. And I get it. Student wasn't flying well, and was in an unsafe positioning for that lz. Typically, that's when calm simple repeated commands do tend to work. Repeating "left, left, left" isn't necessarily bad, but personally, I try to keep my voice as calm as possible when I've been involved with a panicked student situation.
@coreygrace4856
@coreygrace4856 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for you out look on this horrible incident.
@beautyforashesvideos
@beautyforashesvideos Жыл бұрын
One thing I would consider is an inappropriate glider. It seems like the glider could be an Ozone which I almost died with a few years ago. And it looks like it wanted to dive far too easy. Also, the pilot had no sense of brake application to keep the glider in a stable, overhead position.
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
Ozone is a brand. That's like saying it's a Ford. There are many different models under that maker. The glider does look appropriate for a beginner pilot. You are correct in that it was control applications that ultimately ended the man's life.
@neosugus
@neosugus Жыл бұрын
IMO a student should never fly with so much wind, at least it looks windy... So IMO it is the instructor fault because he shouldn't have let the pilot fly in those conditions. When I learned to fly it was always with calmed conditions. I only flew with light wind when I already had a more or less good control on the glider and was teached on how does a glider react in diferent conditions. I wouldn't let that instructor teach anymore... RIP :(
@tonycerino1736
@tonycerino1736 Жыл бұрын
Rip. Prayers
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith Жыл бұрын
I don’t have any paragliding experience, but to me it looks like a regular stall. It’s it possible that his riding the brakes (which I would guess is most like flying with flaps down on an airplane) made him dependent on wind speed for lift? When the wind shifted slightly it just dropped him out of the sky?
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
He never stalled, but rather did the equivalent of dumping one flap quickly causing a "shoot", where the wing got way out in front of him. Visually, a paraglider stall will ball up and fall back behind the pilot.
@eclipser2004
@eclipser2004 Жыл бұрын
If you were going to train wouldn't it be a calm day? Seems very windy in the video for someone with little experience
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
I do have wind limitations for student activities. Typically calm is difficult, and strong wind is unforgiving. We aim for somewhere in between for maximum benefit.
@paramotorpilot1749
@paramotorpilot1749 Жыл бұрын
Sad News but Thank you Kyle for you're input.
@IIrandhandleII
@IIrandhandleII Жыл бұрын
Beginner flying near beach in strong wind?
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
I think the winds were within safe limits. The coastal winds have a far different quality than inland winds of the same magnitude. Disregarding the microphone buffetting, he was able to penetrate into the headwind with deep brakes. This bit tells me conditions were likely safe for student operations while still on the high side.
@pubsdrinks2166
@pubsdrinks2166 Жыл бұрын
Hi ! I'm Brazilian. What i heard in the video was normal instructions as " Yes go right, Take lef, go straight until the end, good etc... The instructor wasn't afraid, everything was good until, suddenly, he made that spiral, and the instructor didn't have time to say anything... That's sad.. Probably was too wind for him.
@walkswith
@walkswith Жыл бұрын
In am portuguese (From Madeira, Portugal) 1.34 . its good. (he says it a few times) 1.56 (cant understant) up go up! 1.59 thats great 2.02 go to point B 2.04 go back 2.06 left left, thats it left. 2.11 release the brake 2.14 thats it bro 2.15 (cant understant) 2.17 go faster 2.21 go back. more left. straight straight left left 2.33 cant understand whats said after.
@MozFialho
@MozFialho Жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle, Mozart here. From Brazil. The original audio is not very good, sometimes incomprehensible, but I managed to translate something from the instructor for you there. It follows: "Tá bom, tá bom - * It´s good, it´s good… * Isso, com a ponta pra cima - * That's it, with the tip up… * Beleza, vai pro ponto “B” - * That’s good! Go to the “B” point * Vai lá pra trás - * Go back! * Esquerda, esquerda, isso! Vai lá! - * Left, left, that’s it! Left, left, go there * Levanta a outra mão - * Raise your other hand. * Isso, mano, dá motor! Dá motor! - * That’s it, brother, give power, give power! * Mais… vai mais rápido - * More… go faster! * Aí.. vai pra trás, pra trás! [Abre] esquerda! - * Yeess! Go back, go back! [Open] left. * Reto, reto, reto - * Straight ahead (3x) *"
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 Жыл бұрын
Is this analogous to a stall spin in a fixed wing aircraft?
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
Similar, but I never observed the glider stalled. When a paraglider stalls, it curls up behind, and is quite visible. In fixed wing terms, this is like an aggresive asymmetric recovery from slow flight while too low.
@MSPWebs
@MSPWebs Жыл бұрын
He stalled… simply stalled.
@MrSchuetzendorf
@MrSchuetzendorf Жыл бұрын
What i don't understand: A paraglider is a very intelligent thing to fly with: You can carry it on a hike and start from a mountain, being towed by a scooter to start a thermal XC flight. You are in close contact to the air. Putting an engine to it ruins everything.
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
Engines allow for climbs in calm air. A motor unit attached to a paraglider is a force multiplier to a large magnitude in that it increases the times and places to obtain flight. Their convenience is unmatched. BTW, I do prefer non powered flight, but logistics prevent that in most places that ppg is easily accessible.
@brenthollady
@brenthollady Жыл бұрын
I agree Kyle, I flew in Colorado for my 1st pg flight and loved it but I live in MI. We don't have mountains here so ppg has made it possible for me to live my dream of flight. It's been the best experience of my life. I would have never been able to get into the sky without ppg. I am very picky about weather conditions as a newbie but I absolutely love ppg.
@TONYPARAMOTOR
@TONYPARAMOTOR Жыл бұрын
Hi, I live in the UK. and I am not a novice. but with flying a paramotor .iam always learning. there's a lot of info that doesn't get mentioned. accident. fatal. are covered up on purpose.. ill mention a fatal accident in two people flying all have cameras. one is a photographer. an accident happened the cameraman died. so while trying to find out how the fatal accident happened .not all the info is made public? the cameras??/ these were on filming. so the accident should show the accident? but no .its hushed up .on purpose. to me fatal accidents all.should be made public.. then there's an instructor in his landrover. towing a student with a rope tied to the rear tow bar. the student ends up while be towed with a lockout. he crashes and helicopters came. a lot of witnesses saw it ... but because they're in a gang. they keep their mouths shut. on video. corruption is rife. distortion of the facts.and theres more....
@johnmarkharris
@johnmarkharris Жыл бұрын
Very sad. You hate to see it. I feel so sorry for this pilot, the instructor, and their families. I hope it reminds people flying is a serious business, and still it’s a joy. 🙏🏻
@joshperryppg
@joshperryppg Жыл бұрын
I wonder what kind of glider that was. It banked over quick! I can't get my spyder to do that even if I try.
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
My theory is motor involvement plus or minus wind, but no way to know as the sound is too muffled.
@charliewatts6895
@charliewatts6895 Жыл бұрын
@@kyleoglee Raises a good point. The wing might not have been suitable for a beginner, perhpas a design meant for more advanced para pilots. That being said he just didn't have enough altitude .
@deandee8082
@deandee8082 Жыл бұрын
to hear the instructor LAUGH 2:52 while this student is clearly in big trouble is appealing, this just won't leave my mind, I am thinking criminal charges, negligent homicide.. he fuggen laughed at him
@dirkbruenner
@dirkbruenner Жыл бұрын
It's very simple: this is not a spot for beginners. Over open water? No! in strong windy conditions? No! Simply wait for calm weather conditions und find an open field..... the instructors reaction also was very slow. My condolences to family and friends. What a sad avoidable accident.
@rinzler9775
@rinzler9775 Жыл бұрын
Fixed wing pilot here: this looked a lot like a stall spin ?
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
I'm private pilot as well rinzler. He was close, think slow flight, full flaps in fixed wing terms. Now imagine cleaning up the left wing in an instant while mashing right rudder. All while hanging under the aircraft on 20 feet of lines. Glider shoots and yaws, you swing out, then down. When these gliders stall/spin, the wing curls reward losing pressure. It's very visible. I didn't observe that. I think he was near stall, but never actually hit it.
@rinzler9775
@rinzler9775 Жыл бұрын
@@kyleoglee sounds scary - its a self feeding cycle. I've come dangerously close on base to final doing dumb things like a steep bank with rudder at low speed, and then snapping out and applying power. Not an option with these things by the look of of it.
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@kyleoglee OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As a recently retired airline pilot as of Jan 2023, I've been through some "incidents" with no fatalities nor even serious injuries, but this is just plain terrifying! I wish you all the very best sir! Oh you kids....... ;-))
@bunnystuff2005
@bunnystuff2005 Жыл бұрын
Heartbreakingly sad.
@david9783
@david9783 Жыл бұрын
What I get out of it is that i don't want to try it.
@Imustfly
@Imustfly Жыл бұрын
The fatal error was a low altitude, down wind, hook turn. Period.
@artint.savarani6412
@artint.savarani6412 Жыл бұрын
You should go full screen
@justharryjohnson7250
@justharryjohnson7250 Жыл бұрын
Good analysis I would have said similar. The pilot was close to stall at that point, the pilot releases the left hand but keeps right hand low, which enters into a spiral. I would have said the way out would have been to release the right brake and pull left a little, as soon as it entered the spiral. I think spending time to look at these horrible videos is helpful to see what not to do. Thoughts go out to the family and friends of the pilot. Blue skies
@SecondLifeDesigner
@SecondLifeDesigner Жыл бұрын
It looks clear to me that the pilot didn't know what he was doing and was not qualified to be flying in those conditions. I blame the instructor for letting him take off.
@Diesel4242
@Diesel4242 Жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct. Definitely too strong of a day.
@paramasters
@paramasters Жыл бұрын
Oh wow. This is where YT needs more options than just a thumbs up or down. I appreciate the video, but my heart breaks for that family. So incredibly sad. 😔
@alexcampbell5540
@alexcampbell5540 Жыл бұрын
If he had his arms up he would have had more airspeed and more control of wing... was there good instruction idk... so much we don't know but low airspeed and gusty winds make for a bad combo low to ground ... very sad
@VulcanGunner
@VulcanGunner Жыл бұрын
stall?
@union310
@union310 9 ай бұрын
Where was this?
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee 9 ай бұрын
Brasil
@godrick2010
@godrick2010 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Man
@robd1859
@robd1859 Жыл бұрын
And just as it was coming to the ground whoever was filming put the camera down right before it hit the ground. So you couldn't actually see the crash
@york5378
@york5378 Жыл бұрын
Sad but a sobering reminder that the basics matter. Let the wing fly.
@verticallines212
@verticallines212 Жыл бұрын
rip our friend,
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 Жыл бұрын
We can learn to stay out of dangerous situations
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
Sadly, this pilot never took that option.
@bluetickfreddy101
@bluetickfreddy101 Жыл бұрын
As commercial pilot Road /mtn bike Scuba diver Street/ dirt motorcycle Water/ snow skier Id never do this glider stuff Cheers
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
True that it's not for everyone. Statistically it is proven to be a safer activity than street motorcycles.
@99kevin99
@99kevin99 Жыл бұрын
Difficult to watch...harder to analyze with only this video as the data set. Thanks for trying to help this community of flyers.
@bleeder228
@bleeder228 3 ай бұрын
That guy was nervous. You can see it in the wing throughout the entire video. He was over controlling the entire time. I've had that happen with students on a couple of occasions. Instructor needs to immediately go to a calm voice and be forceful with the commands. at the same time. Take the student higher for safety and get him to calm down. Without understanding the language, the intensity in the voice says everything. People do not do things well when they are stressed and panicking. Biggest thing to do there give the guy time to calm down.
@markmerkel7488
@markmerkel7488 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a very simple basics mistake to me - always land into the wind - Never ever let the wind be behind you at such a low altitude.
@aaronchandler2380
@aaronchandler2380 Жыл бұрын
I think gravity may have played a major role in this mishap ...
@ldlink3935
@ldlink3935 Жыл бұрын
I think it was just too windy a location to be for even an experienced pilot. If he just lets the thing run without hitting the brakes, this guy could have kept flying for miles, he could have went higher up and further inland....scary situation for sure. Sad something fun, or a hobby, turns into an end of life situation.
@FrayAdjacentTX
@FrayAdjacentTX Жыл бұрын
Good: Girlfried is in Brazil and of course is fluent in Portuguese Bad: She's IN Brazil right now Good: I'm flying to Brazil on Friday
@kitdaberserker555
@kitdaberserker555 Жыл бұрын
He just stalled it out
@docdurdin
@docdurdin Жыл бұрын
In an airplane, you would call this a stall. I also don't think you would let a novice up in those conditions, nice and breezy until you learn control.
@midnyte6195
@midnyte6195 Жыл бұрын
Cool 😎👍
@will-7073
@will-7073 Жыл бұрын
@5:10 test
@TONYPARAMOTOR
@TONYPARAMOTOR Жыл бұрын
listen to the engine when the student is coming in towards the beach.. fear. and panic. maybe the instructor could have mentioned come off. a little with the power. RIP.
@nategoodwin3329
@nategoodwin3329 Жыл бұрын
Yet another preventable casualty. Tragic. There's been way many..
@scottypres1
@scottypres1 Жыл бұрын
Such a tragedy. Def a nose down spiral. I’d wager that he pulled right brake as well
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
He never let go of the right side. Had it buried the entire time.
@stijnvandamme76
@stijnvandamme76 Жыл бұрын
fatal error is going up when there is too much wind for the experience
@lifewithNickj
@lifewithNickj Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, this still sucks...
@petewest5973
@petewest5973 Жыл бұрын
The comms from the Instructor were maybe overly encouraging and being very complimentary to Student - this could have given student over confidence to pull a quasi wing over at low altitude ‘ RIP ok mate
@TheDAVE858
@TheDAVE858 Жыл бұрын
flying is not for everyone. It looks like he was way behind the glider & was piloting reactively instead of actively. I don't fly PGs, so not sure on how student progression goes, but I've never seen an instructor have to yell that much for the student to react. Guy was clearly way in over his head.
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
My feelings as well Dave.
@andre1987eph
@andre1987eph Жыл бұрын
Why play with dangerous daredevil sports like this?
@paramotorhead
@paramotorhead Жыл бұрын
It’s about risk & reward. These incidents are thankfully rare. It’s an amazing sport but, not for everyone.
@wildcard9724
@wildcard9724 Жыл бұрын
Because we can? Thanks for your concern and prayers!
@brenthollady
@brenthollady Жыл бұрын
It's as dangerous as you make it. It's also as safe as you make it. The law of large numbers suggests PPG is 1000 times safer than riding a motorcycle on public roads. This is an unfortunate situation that we as ppg pilots need to see and learn from but calling ppg a daredevil sport is missing the forest through the trees. It is what you make it.
@zbigniewszczesny
@zbigniewszczesny Жыл бұрын
I think the releasing both of hand i such a situation, is the reason of the accident
@davegeorge7094
@davegeorge7094 Жыл бұрын
good crash hd cam videos are rare. Poor man.
@DannyConcepts
@DannyConcepts Жыл бұрын
wtf did i just watch? can someone please explain whats happening?
@kyleoglee
@kyleoglee Жыл бұрын
Student learning to fly paramotor makes several errors that cost their life.
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