Parsing Lisp with Rust (Tula Ep.03)

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[@androth1502]

valuable content shouldn't be kept hidden and a lot of us can't make the schedule of watching streams. i think you should publish all the eepers episodes.

[@renzei_]

i agree, but all the vods are available on his twitch channel too ^^

[@blackbeard3449]

​@@renzei_i believe twitch only preserves vods for a limited amount of time and auto deletes older videos

[@cobbcoding]

I would really like to see the eepers vods, as I didn't get to catch most of the streams. Love watching grumpy zozin

[@wafinashwan8242]

dude cobb isacc i didn't expect you here but ok

[@Dr-Zed]

Whoa, having twitch chat as captions is amazing!

[@Czeckie]

2:39:00 cool idea. not that it matters, but that won't be turing machine anymore. Such a machine would have infinite alphabet and infinite number of states. Infinite state machine with recursive states would be easily simulated in finite state machine using a piece of tape for state simulation. This could go further. Instead of [a+b] you could have result of any other turing machine lol. If Integer arithmetic and so on wouldn't be a magic part of the language, but something that has to be provided as another tula program, that would quickly kill any danger of being useful.

[@andrehedesand681]

You have to look into Product types! "let Pairs = Integers x Integers" is pretty pog

[@anon_y_mousse]

Now I'm wondering how many people know of the vulnerability of calling programs with execv*() since the given argument list may not actually include the program name. Accordingly, you should probably be using env::current_exe instead of env::args for the actual program name. Also, for formatting, especially when using line numbers, I always pad out to at least 4 digits as a default, whether using spaces or 0's to pad. Looking at it written out, I think I understand better why so many languages eschew using = for named parameters, because it looks cursed, but even more so in a formatting print function. For my own language I opted to do a sort of f-string type thing like Python, but I made every string an f-string. Whether you're just assigning to a variable or printing, you could just do "${ 4:line_count}" and it would do a space padded 4 digit representation for the current line count. So my generic print function just takes a flat set of values and does no printf() style processing, but I do also provide my own printf() as well. I also don't like the concept of todo!() that Rust uses, nor that it doesn't warn by default on shadowed variables. Additionally, it is far too noisy of a language. It's like they're aiming for copying C++ but in their own weird syntax that's impossible for a newbie to understand and will make skill transfer more difficult.

[@rkc137]

pretty scary preview

[@JohnKouts]

We need Tsoding merchandise!!!

[@hubstrangers3450]

Thank you....

[@AK-vx4dy]

Can you elaborate or link episode for reasons of hate for Lisp and Rust?

[@heyclore5728]

Not only does he hate Lisp and Rust, but he also hate all programming languages. :v

[@AK-vx4dy]

@@heyclore5728 But in "I will write only in machine code" or "I will invent my own better"? 😉

[@Tigregalis]

@@AK-vx4dy In "languages are just tools and they all have flaws"

[@cctes9269]

@@AK-vx4dy I think it's just his way of expressing his cynicism about online programming language debate.

[@foxwhite25]

Thats why I just use nightly and deal with it, all these "unstable" features, like 99% of these features are fine, just have to read through the issue and ensure it doesn't segfault your programme. It would be interesting to introduce some level of stability between unstable and stable, where it allow you to use the feature (behind a flag) on the stable compiler, but retain the freedom to change or remove the feature if circumstances demand it.

[@damienstanton]

Isn’t beta precisely between nightly and stable?

[@fiona9891]

feature flags are already how nightly works though so i'm not sure what the benefit would be here

[@lowlevelcodingch]

" Parsing Lips with Rust "

[@SimGunther]

Isn't it just reverse Forth parsing with extra steps and parenthesis counting?

[@russinmoder4931]

определенно нужно выложить на ютуб весь путь к рабочей туле, очень интересно сесть посмотреть, но я не могу быть на стримах

[@iglobrothers645]

The subtitles : 💀

[@lame_lexem]

this is how many people upload twitch VODs with the chat history

[@salim444]

Am I high or is tula repo on github is just a README?

[@horempatorhoremski6627]

In readme "The Source Code will be available as soon as I feel like the project is ready."

[@xmajedz_3246]

russian programmer screams at rust

[@Ikkepop]

now parse rust with lisp

[@jackedits1234]

Rust, the language of the chosen people

[@pault.8772]

31:14 mah vim can do (most of) dat, but I feel insecure now :-|

[@lowlevelcodingch]

Zozin, use more abstraction.

[@happygofishing]

SHUT IT DOWN

[@velikanskaglava2087]

Rust becoming popular?

[@happygofishing]

Rust is already popular in the domain of game engines that have no games 😊

[@wtfisgoingon535]

@@happygofishing Factually false 😉

[@sofiaknyazeva]

There are 5 games and 50 game engines written in Rust.

[@happygofishing]

@@sofiaknyazeva veloren is decent one.

[@levinduest]

​@@happygofishingVeloren is the only one.