Part V: How Forbidden City treasures survived modern China’s bloody beginning

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South China Morning Post

South China Morning Post

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@nani5987
@nani5987 5 жыл бұрын
Not a single artifact was lost....chineese are really marvelous and sincere to what they do
@gnak2
@gnak2 5 жыл бұрын
so they say
@PT-ve1fl
@PT-ve1fl 5 жыл бұрын
No artifact lost from Forbidden City, but French and British robbed a lot artifacts when they attacked the Summer Palace. Now u can see they either keep those artifacts in museums or selling them in auction.
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o 5 жыл бұрын
Actually - it was one of the few spared places... A lot - and I mean, A LOT of other places were destroyed during the cultural Revolution/ great leap forward. So it is a shame that the work put into saving artifacts before was lost later on to some degree
@nani5987
@nani5987 5 жыл бұрын
Hawaii 5O sorry i didnot know that
@IamAWESOME3980
@IamAWESOME3980 4 жыл бұрын
i am not but i am certain communist red guards smashed several precious artifacts during the cultural revolution.
@emperorryanii
@emperorryanii 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad the actual Forbidden City itself wasn’t destroyed. 😩
@simone222
@simone222 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this lovely summary. I wish I can visit even if just for once the Forbidden City. I'm guessing that a week isn't probably enough to fully marvel and savour at these exquisite collections of art and artefacts.
@fantasybj
@fantasybj 5 жыл бұрын
i recommend you come in October, best season of Beijing
@simone222
@simone222 5 жыл бұрын
@@fantasybj I will take your suggestion to heart. Thank you.
@ivysn13
@ivysn13 4 жыл бұрын
through rough times... these people could have careless worried about themselves but they had felt the duty to preserve what our ancestors passed down to us carefully for thousands of years... it means alot
@MrSifaperdire
@MrSifaperdire 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks to all wise people who managed to preserve the history. Destroying the past is the most barbaric things humans can do
@NangongReng1973
@NangongReng1973 5 жыл бұрын
MrSifaperdire Today is the 100 th anniversary of May 4 th movement 1919. Only 2 occasion where China tried destroy its own tradition : May 4 th and Mao’s era.
@MrSifaperdire
@MrSifaperdire 5 жыл бұрын
@@NangongReng1973 let's hope it will never happen again, China has a lot to show and teach to the world
@yooneunhyesarang9245
@yooneunhyesarang9245 5 жыл бұрын
Simple, clean and concise explanation. I like it! 👌😊
@codyshi4743
@codyshi4743 5 жыл бұрын
They should also do a video on China’s Sunmer palaces Yuan Ming Yuan and Yi he Yuan.
@emperorryanii
@emperorryanii 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hated that the Europeans burned down one once.
@ny9296
@ny9296 5 жыл бұрын
Wow.. this is why I love history! and this video is easy to consume love the art tho. Thank you.
@ploppyploppy6554
@ploppyploppy6554 5 жыл бұрын
This history is a page all cultures share . Hence we need to learn cooperation.
@Otter-Destruction
@Otter-Destruction 5 жыл бұрын
How did they survive the Cultural Revolution is real question.
@zsarimaxim692
@zsarimaxim692 5 жыл бұрын
Most class A relics and historic sites were defended by the army and police during the cultural revolution despite what was said about the unrest.
@ganikus8565
@ganikus8565 5 жыл бұрын
Actually contrary of what this video says, the nearly the entire collection was sent to taipei and was sent back to China step by step from the 90's But it's normal that this vid doesn't speak facts since its a nationalistic propaganda with little accuracy. Giving example the vid says: 1860 French and British invasion. It was not an invasion. China never explain why British and French attacked the Manchu power ( not China ) Several reasons but one major reason was when British sent an ambassador to meet the Manchu emperor to discuss their business problem, the emperor agreed to meet the British but send them into a trap. The british ambassador who was accompagnied with a French official and 40 guards were captured and tortured during 1 month by the Chinese traditional Linchi torture ( death by 1000 cuts). After a month, 20 survivors were freed and given the little pieces of the body parts of the ambassadors and the other dead. The survivors were disfigured by the torture and their own friends couldn'( recognize them. British and French government decided to teach a lesson to the Manchu power. 6000 soldiers were sent to China. Chinese call that an invasion. The 1883 Sino French war : Ancient Vietnam kingdoms of Tonkin and Annam which were vassals of China and signed a treaty with France to become French colonies were constantly attacked, looted by Chinese pirates who were active along the Mekong river. French officials asked China to do something about it, but they didn't. France then sent 3 ships on the Mekong to get rid of the Pirates. China considered that an attack on China and declared war on France with the escuses that France invaded China. The 1900 Boxer rebelion, during the 19th century, Chinese Han Farmers from the north built an army to get rid of the Manchu power which was a foreign power ( not considered Chinese) In 1900 The empress Cixi paid the rebels to change their mind. In 1901 these countryside farmers, assisted by the Manchu power of Cixi, attacked foreigners and the Chinese friends with foreigners living in Beijing. These foreigners were doing business, travels, studies...They killed few hundreds foreigners, men, women, children and around 30 000 Chinese. Powerful Chinese such as the prince Su housed nearly 200 foreigners to protect them from the peasants paid by Cixi. 8 countries sent some soldiers to protect their citizens, Japan, Russia, England ( and India) France, Netherland, Germany, Austria, Italy , in all 18 000 men arrived in Beijing to face the 100 000 rebels and the 70 000 soldiers of the Manchu power. Its the 55 days battle of Beijing. After the battle, each countries decided to have some soldiers sationed in China to keep order and peace. Japan let 5000 soldiers, France 300, the US 200 ... and Communist China today call that an Invasion.
@shhand7527
@shhand7527 5 жыл бұрын
even in cultural revolution it was impossible to destory the forbidden city
@rabanal_josh64
@rabanal_josh64 5 жыл бұрын
If something can make you money, why not?
@rog4464
@rog4464 5 жыл бұрын
@@ganikus8565 I don't know the facts. But I highly doubt that. Why would Taipei send most of the artifacts back to Beijing? That doesn't make sense.
@stevec9470
@stevec9470 5 жыл бұрын
Solute to those decision makers and workers of that time.
@fdsaffff
@fdsaffff 5 жыл бұрын
the most beautiful chinese arts are in the west's museums and some are so precious it's not shown
@1082kmys
@1082kmys 5 жыл бұрын
Those infographics are amzaing. You should absolutely open an Weibo or Bilibilli account
@piedwagtailrameau
@piedwagtailrameau 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@overcrank4783
@overcrank4783 5 жыл бұрын
This is part 5. Where is the part 1-4?
@melaniekotze9081
@melaniekotze9081 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video
@zisun7483
@zisun7483 5 жыл бұрын
That is why the establishment of new China is working not to have disastrous events repeated. 富国强兵!
@David-hh8on
@David-hh8on 5 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of disastrous events that happen during and after the establishment of New China
@whyrulikedis8248
@whyrulikedis8248 5 жыл бұрын
Respect from here
@codyshi4743
@codyshi4743 5 жыл бұрын
I hope when China and unified with Taiwan, those two treasures can be unified as well instead of being divided.
@f4ramadhana435
@f4ramadhana435 5 жыл бұрын
then you hope communist will die in peace . . . not imposibble but not most likely
@zebraimage
@zebraimage 5 жыл бұрын
Ghiffary 14 That is one way to achieve, I'll give you that. But you can't rule out the other way around no matter how anti-communist you are. Wishful thinking doesn't make it happen. Keep dreaming on though, my friend😉
@linhongshu8320
@linhongshu8320 5 жыл бұрын
I can agree on re-unifications but under our terms; 民主主義 民國的國籍 民國的國歌 民國的法律 三民主義 (民族/民權/民生) And lastly 中華民國。 If not then, 台獨/台灣共和國(台灣國)。 What beijing is doing is not enough. 永不忘記; 天安門/文化大革命/香港民主。
@wilsonanimates6362
@wilsonanimates6362 Жыл бұрын
@@linhongshu8320never forget white terror
@irawilliams343
@irawilliams343 3 жыл бұрын
If Emperor Guangxu hadn't been poisoned and continued his reforms then maybe China would still be under imperial rule today
@veryverygentle
@veryverygentle 5 жыл бұрын
There's a TV show about these "National Treasure", which is on KZbin as well 【English Sub】国家宝藏 "National Treasure"
@bryanfong1023
@bryanfong1023 5 жыл бұрын
Taiwan should return those relics and embrace their aboriginal culture.
@KeepinItRealAllDay
@KeepinItRealAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
they will soon enough
@jeedytakhellambam
@jeedytakhellambam 5 жыл бұрын
Hahah 😂,
@ganikus8565
@ganikus8565 5 жыл бұрын
The first roads, hospitals and schools of Taiwan were made by Japanese.
@ahan300
@ahan300 5 жыл бұрын
In exchange for independence of Taiwan (as a new country), they must return all artefacts transfered by the Nationalist (ROC) as well as gold reserve and equivalent value of todays money of what other movable assets they did transfer before...
@andersonhsu4193
@andersonhsu4193 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Alias just out of curiosity, why?
@ahan300
@ahan300 5 жыл бұрын
@@andersonhsu4193 it is just not fair to the China (PRC) if Taiwan go for independence but in the early years, ROC has been "looting" these treasures thinking they would reunify with mainland one day. Like an English idiom, you cannot have cake and eat it too.
@MagSnapShots
@MagSnapShots 2 жыл бұрын
Taiwan can actually afford it if China just wants the money (which it doesn’t need). The unification is about Chinese nationalism and pride which goes far beyond gold and treasures.
@GeorgeMartinus
@GeorgeMartinus 5 жыл бұрын
It's like almost deadline anyway. From full-coloured great art into black white storyboard. Lol No no, don't mistake my comment. It honestly great with that kind of concept.
@JogvanJespersenPGA
@JogvanJespersenPGA 5 жыл бұрын
What about the treat to the collection during the cultural revolution.
@lanxiaoli2659
@lanxiaoli2659 5 жыл бұрын
Luckily they were untouched. Premier Zhou Enlai sent an army battalion to guard the forbidden city.
@dawdasdwadsadas6440
@dawdasdwadsadas6440 5 жыл бұрын
Now do a video on how they survived the European invasion
@elderaarondavis1
@elderaarondavis1 5 жыл бұрын
Then, how did they survive the cultural revolution?
@cissizhang5647
@cissizhang5647 5 жыл бұрын
How about Yuanmingyuan..... A story has not been told and a history has been forgotten.
@Advtaiwan
@Advtaiwan 5 жыл бұрын
However The Republic Of China in Taiwan 🇹🇼 has the biggest collection of Chinese artifacts in the world👌
@fantasybj
@fantasybj 5 жыл бұрын
as long as those artifacts in the hands of CHINESE, we dont care who hold them, just protect them well
@linhongshu8320
@linhongshu8320 5 жыл бұрын
@@fantasybj *Taiwanese
@fantasybj
@fantasybj 5 жыл бұрын
@@linhongshu8320 The Republic of CHINA
@linhongshu8320
@linhongshu8320 5 жыл бұрын
@@fantasybj Nope, still, Taiwanese.
@linhongshu8320
@linhongshu8320 5 жыл бұрын
@@fantasybj i don't care what you think of, each has different views.
@sasufreqchann
@sasufreqchann 5 жыл бұрын
I Wonder what would have happened if mao would've lost the fight
@Kruziik
@Kruziik 5 жыл бұрын
the other side would have won
@francisburgos780
@francisburgos780 4 жыл бұрын
Porque tan corto
@user-oh6wb5rj2q
@user-oh6wb5rj2q 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone can help me with English and understanding? What's nationalist, communism? Whats the different? Why one is better than the other? Why China choose that? Thank you very much
@samsong1934
@samsong1934 5 жыл бұрын
Rui Hao烎壡嗥 in Chinese, nationalists were the 国民党 KMT in Taiwan while communists are the 共产党 who were The ancestors of 中国大陆. The difference was that nationalists wanted capitalism and democracy while the communists wanted communal living 社会主义 共产主义 and a one party rule
@user-wu6xl4wq5q
@user-wu6xl4wq5q 5 жыл бұрын
Except the KMT was not pro-democracy in anyway destroying opposition and keeping a one-party rule in Nanjing. Also their capitalist mindeset was centred around big coorporations and foreign companies. Trade Unions and Worker's Rights groups were persecuted by Chiang Kai Shek's Government.
@wojciechhoppe456
@wojciechhoppe456 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-wu6xl4wq5q then what's the difference between current government and back then? The new government is also a one party rule without any opposition. The government also follows capitalism. And whenever there is a rising of potential protest about rights the protest will be stopped. Aren't KMT and CCP the same then?
@user-wu6xl4wq5q
@user-wu6xl4wq5q 5 жыл бұрын
@@wojciechhoppe456 KMT is a failure and cant even hold power on tiny Taiwan. In fact the Taiwan Govt cant even abide with their own constitution or the KMT founder's beliefs. Whereas, CCP appears to be more Nationalist than it is Communist, like a moderate way between two parties. If Sun Yat Sen saw China now, he would be proud, as he believed in Nationalism first, Politics second. That is the same policy of the PRC, to unify all Chinese people under one banner before enforcing radical political changes. KMT on the other hand, betrayed the Chinese people, stating in speeches: "If you are pro-Chinese Unification then go back to China." This is absolute betrayal to Sun Yat Sen himself, since he believed in a strong, unified China over a China broken by political disagreements.
@changcheng4954
@changcheng4954 5 жыл бұрын
说说圆明园被抢走了多少吧。
@thuoo7804
@thuoo7804 5 жыл бұрын
What about the cultural revolution?
@justicewarrior9187
@justicewarrior9187 5 жыл бұрын
Better yet How did it survive comunism???!!
@Lachausis
@Lachausis 5 жыл бұрын
I think this channel would rather not answer that question.
@zsarimaxim692
@zsarimaxim692 5 жыл бұрын
Because they were protected by the communist government?
@Lachausis
@Lachausis 5 жыл бұрын
@@zsarimaxim692 Ever heard of cultural revolution?
@zsarimaxim692
@zsarimaxim692 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lachausis Yup, sure did, and these relics were still protected during that time period. Actually even antique seized from common household were not destroyed, but rather warehoused. Our family for example got most of those antiques back from the government in the 80s. More valuable items on the other hand were taken to the museums, and the government will "convince" their owner to eventually "donate" them to the state.
@thadiussean9133
@thadiussean9133 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lachausis yes, Zhou enlai made sure the army protected them and the sites
@pgdog888
@pgdog888 5 жыл бұрын
Snowflakes took alot of treasures during the 8 nation invasion in the 1800s. Italy just gave some of that back recently. UK got the most.
@B727X
@B727X 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t come up with your own Memes?
@mysteriousbluehat2035
@mysteriousbluehat2035 5 жыл бұрын
War: dying children. Superiors: save the artifcats!
@khangrikyiduk1634
@khangrikyiduk1634 5 жыл бұрын
And then u encounter tibet and followed the footstep of your master. lorung dar and lhasa
@김지은-v2b
@김지은-v2b 5 жыл бұрын
ㅠㅠ
@phamdewestriver3623
@phamdewestriver3623 5 жыл бұрын
Such a humiliating history.
@coytheboy
@coytheboy 5 жыл бұрын
Pham de West River is that sarcasm? Every nation/empire has it’s highs and lows.
@kongwee1978
@kongwee1978 5 жыл бұрын
More humiliating, China is coming back to their normal form.
@ganikus8565
@ganikus8565 5 жыл бұрын
@@kongwee1978 That's mean always behind !
@kongwee1978
@kongwee1978 5 жыл бұрын
@@ganikus8565 Go and read the civilization throughout last 5000 years. lol
@tomxavier2920
@tomxavier2920 5 жыл бұрын
China has always valued treasures over human lives.
@rog4464
@rog4464 5 жыл бұрын
How so? Or do you think all the Chinese should stay away from the treasure and let the invaders loot everything?
@yokoliu8936
@yokoliu8936 5 жыл бұрын
U have no idea how precious those artifacts were
@ganikus8565
@ganikus8565 5 жыл бұрын
Actually contrary of what this video says, nearly the entire collection was sent to taipei and was sent back to China step by step from the 90's But it's normal that this vid doesn't speak facts since its a nationalistic propaganda with little accuracy. Giving example the vid says: 1860 French and British invasion. It was not an invasion. China never explain why British and French attacked the Manchu power ( not China ) Several reasons but one major reason was when British sent an ambassador to meet the Manchu emperor to discuss their business problem, the emperor agreed to meet the British but send them into a trap. The british ambassador who was accompagnied with a French official and 40 guards were captured and tortured during 1 month by the Chinese traditional Linchi torture ( death by 1000 cuts). After a month, 20 survivors were freed and given the little pieces of the body parts of the ambassadors and the other dead. The survivors were disfigured by the torture and their own friends couldn'( recognize them. British and French government decided to teach a lesson to the Manchu power. 6000 soldiers were sent to China. Chinese call that an invasion. The 1883 Sino French war : Ancient Vietnam kingdoms of Tonkin and Annam which were vassals of China and signed a treaty with France to become French colonies were constantly attacked, looted by Chinese pirates who were active along the Mekong river. French officials asked China to do something about it, but they didn't. France then sent 3 ships on the Mekong to get rid of the Pirates. China considered that an attack on China and declared war on France with the escuses that France invaded China. The 1900 Boxer rebelion, during the 19th century, Chinese Han Farmers from the north built an army to get rid of the Manchu power which was a foreign power ( not considered Chinese) In 1900 The empress Cixi paid the rebels to change their mind. In 1901 these countryside farmers, assisted by the Manchu power of Cixi, attacked foreigners and the Chinese friends with foreigners living in Beijing. These foreigners were doing business, travels, studies...They killed few hundreds foreigners, men, women, children and around 30 000 Chinese. Powerful Chinese such as the prince Su housed nearly 200 foreigners to protect them from the peasants paid by Cixi. 8 countries sent some soldiers to protect their citizens, Japan, Russia, England ( and India) France, Netherland, Germany, Austria, Italy , in all 18 000 men arrived in Beijing to face the 100 000 rebels and the 70 000 soldiers of the Manchu power. Its the 55 days battle of Beijing. After the battle, each countries decided to have some soldiers sationed in China to keep order and peace. Japan let 5000 soldiers, France 300, the US 200 ... and Communist China today call that an Invasion.
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