Partially Examined Life podcast - Nietzsche - On Truth & Lies in a Nonmoral Sense

[@devonashwa7977]

The quote at 51:00 pure genius.

[@Blacreligious]

Thanks guys! This really helped with my Existentialism class :)

[@jessexx269]

Jessica is right, Nietzsche has no positive views on the metaphysics or semantics of truth as such, only in relation to how others thinkers take it.

[@hookedonafeeling100]

knowing what will happen in the future is knowing the truth and that is power in itself.

[@_VISION.]

48:40 he does? And 49:00 how do you know that again?

[@keifermay3913]

Not that it matters: These characterizations of Derrida are unfair. The "outside text" has been misquoted and misunderstood. I'm not a Derridian, but it is important to understand a thinker within their context (which is the point of Derrida). Derrida himself has been quoted as running against this interpretation of the "outside text" that is often turned into a straw man to burn in effigy of Derrida. The "No outside text" quote was not to say that all things are text an language and lies, but that all things are contextual, all things are situated. Derrida must be read as an acolyte of Heidegger (the great thinker of circles and relations). He is not the villain of "all things are lies," if he was then his Specters of Marx would be a meaningless work. But Derrida held politics and justice-to-come as so important. Deconstruction is a procedural, Bergsonian process. Derrida is gun-shy about metaphysics, as he prefers to expose the "pretensions," elliptical, and "dogmatic" backgrounds that make up philosophical discourse (which you all point to as concerns of Nietzsche and his skeptical heroes). Deconstruction is not a philosophy, but a process of reading philosophy and disclosing truths (not A Truth, which states that everything is a lie) in a Heideggerian sense. It is not that all things are lies, but that all things are grounded (Grund) within an abyss, a thing that functions by grounding but being unseen and unarticulated. This is how all anti-metaphysicians are also metaphysicians. We can't get outside of metaphysics; philosophical discourse must posit metaphysical concepts as the things that are worked upon and "shown". Which is all to say that to argue against Derrida, one must take him seriously and not use misunderstood translations of his work. Derrida has a context and a position (as he tried to disclose that other thinkers have their own contexts). Not the greatest put together comment, but you can interpret it. If pressed I could further extrapolate and clarify, but at the moment I need to go to work.

[@_VISION.]

Looks like I need to read about deconstruction

[@otonanoC]

Nietzsche's conception of Truth as an expression of social power was compelling to many later intellectuals -- particularly Michel Foucault.

[@otonanoC]

Having said that, Frederick Nietzsche actually built up a very sweeping, large system of BIOLOGY which involved a living essence called the Will-To-Power. Looking back at this from 2012 it reads like very archaic thinking. I've concluded that Nietzsche's biology is essentially a form of Vitalism. This does not make him "stupid", since Vitalism was a valid scientific theory in the 19th century (accepted by the even the most educated intellects).

[@OBIrish]

great podcast...Thanks Guys !

[@Vekktone]

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[@andrei3503]

Great stuff guys!

[@MacSmithVideo]

she's fantastic

[@wanderingpots]

I think you are being a bit easy on Nietzsche. I will have to read a bit more but the implications could be worrisome. At a guess I would say thatthe differences are between things in themselves and particulars. That he is trying to get away from Schopenhauers all things are essentially one therefore we should have compassion for other entities.

[@deadman746]

What this essay is about is what a century later has come to be called Cognitive Linguistics/Science. Remember that at this stage in his career he should properly be called a philologist. Although he applies philology to philosophy, that must be deemed secondary to his getting cognition and language amazingly right. It took a quarter century of fighting Chomsky's idiotic classicalist linguistics to get as far as Nietzsche did here.

[@messengers5660]

HI, I was wondering if you think many people listen to podcasts on you tube, or is mainly for video? Or do people go to another site to listen to deep discussions? Is there a podcast site for such material? Thanks.

[@pencilbender]

basically its about subjectivity and the _ding_ _an_ _sich_ (E.Kant)

[@_VISION.]

Wouldn't his position of doubting the value of truth imply a theory of truth or knowledge? It at least could be used as a foundation for relativism, skepticism, and Epistemic constructionism. I know many ancient skeptics withheld any position at all about the nature of things. Is he doing a similar thing?

[@dark14cs]

Haha wow. Thanks I just got excited listening to her comments

[@LukeKenji]

amazing!

[@Jacob-sb3su]

Isnt life just life.

[@timkingiooo]

awesome podcast but the derrida ''il n'ya pas de hors-texte'' mistranslation was really cringeworthy haha xD yolo

[@hookedonafeeling100]

Nietzche is truely our, ours the secular mind, saviour and prophet and the strict line of no! no! don't go beyond that... We shouldn't go beyond certain social and cultural lines, cause we are simply not ready to unleash all of our humanity and remain human. Be it murky or crystal clear, all visions of complete knowledge are tragic. Unless there is an actual cause of true unity as in the case of survival. That is why humanity must unite in the enormous prospect of colonizing the entire universe ;)

[@dark14cs]

Who's the woman in this talk? She's the first woman I've heard who had such a strong grasp of philosophy

[@otonanoC]

So the most successful land animal is the ant (and they sacrifice themselves for the colony). The most abundant animal on earth is marine phytoplankton. Do these facts square with Nietzsche's Victorian hierarchy of organisms containing differing amounts of a "Will-to-Power" substance? I'll leave that question as an exercise to the reader.

[@seanvalentine4198]

otonanoC you could ask what level is the actual organism? The ant or the colony (since the colony is majority genetically identical)

[@ThePartiallyExaminedLife]

Please check video description above!

[@EsatBargan]

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[@jodo6329]

Feels like a whole lot of talk about nothing at all.

[@arivel09]

Jo Do welcome to philosophy. now shut up and examine

[@goatboytone1]

+Jo Do A large percentage of Philosophical writings are saying something simple in the most incredibly complicated and verbose way possible in order to obfuscate truth and meaning rather than reveal it. Philosophy is great for expanding your vocabulary and fostering an unwarranted sense of superiority.

[@jodo6329]

Agreed goatboy, each episode could be summed up with a 30 seconds of talk, and you'd be just as enlightened as having listened to the whole episode.

[@Franticalmagic]

+Jo Do Maybe that's true, if your idea of "enlightenment" involves swallowing quick sound-bites...

[@jodo6329]

Franticalmagic This video is just verbose, with not much substance. They don't explain Nietzsche in a succinct manner. I ended up just reading his books myself, which were fascinating and, dare I say, life changing.

[@BenNCM]

im always suspicious of lay people who claim to understand the work of geniuses and make podcasts about what they think

[@heretobrew]

Lay people? They're trying. If this podcast gets more people aware of the text in the first place, then there is a virtuous objective realised. Also, they do have a Nietzsche scholar to guide them. Either way, philosophy should be a virtuous and encouraging field. Your attitude is neither.

[@BenNCM]

You said it better than me. Exactly!

[@Commievn]

well, at least it's free. you get what you don't pay for, lel.

[@_VISION.]

I don't see why it matters. Anyone can speak about anything and give their accounts.