Pascal Lottaz - Neutrality Studies, Armenia and Incoming Multipolar World | Ep 367 - Sep 23, 2024

[@momoshinak]

Thanks to Professor Lottaz for great analysis🙏🌹

[@steveobardian9980]

Thank you. Great conversation

[@highdynamicphotographyfilm2235]

Thank you

[@ralphbernhard1757]

USA: "Who wants to become the next Ukraine? Please line up over here..."

[@dropped_box]

When you mentioned 2020 as a possible moment, when the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh was sealed, i wanted to point your attention to RAND's 'Extending Russia' but then ... . I think you should pay more attention to the sentence "Finally, resolving Nagorno-Karabakh is likely a prerequisite to Armenia breaking with Russia, but it is *_unclear precisely how_* the United States or NATO could resolve the decades-old conflict *_without privileging one side and antagonizing the other._* I read this as "The US has to get rid of Artsakh, without getting blamed." So I see 2019, not 2020 as 'the moment'. Because what happened is consistent with what was NOT explicitly spoken out, but only hinted at: someone else had to do it. Azerbaijan, like Armenia has a lot of its military-equipment from the Soviet era and from Russia. But the key (superior) weapons that were used by Azerbaijan since 2020, were from Turkey, and to a lesser but also significant extend, from Israel. Both had also reasons of their own to act pro-Azerbaijan (Israel) or anti-Armenia (Turkey). But they are not strategic partners or even friends. What they do have in common is that they are allies of the US. And it would fit perfectly into the pattern of how the US uses proxies. RAND doesn't do just thought experiments. E.g. there's also a "suggestion" concerning Germany (where I'm from) in the study: To leave the INF Treaty (which Trump did the same year) and deploy intermediate-range-weapons to Europe (which was officially (but quietly) announced by US Congress in 2021, but is now sold to the German public as having been decided as a reaction to "Putin's unprovoked brutal war of aggression against Ukraine" by Scholz and Biden at a NATO-summit in 2024) was also suggested in this study. And there are countless other suggestions, that have become a reality. I think for long term 'prosperity' Armenia would be better off with BRICS than with EU. EU is moving towards militarization and is on a collision course with Russia and China. and also Turkey would be really pissed if Armenia gets in and Turkey didn't for 60(?) years. As for strategic orientation: don't trust the US! What Pazcal is ignoring with his neutrality suggestion is of course, that it wouldn't solve the security issues with Azerbaijan. Armenia has to bee extremely clever. US alignment could be a quick fix, but he's right in seeing a strong possibility that this could also lead to Armenia ending up as a battleground for proxy wars of NATO against Russia, US against IRAN or, if the US gets its apparent goal of a new bipolar world order, as a battleground between "The West" and a Chinese-Russian-"Global South" block. What was Pashinyan's solution to Nagorno-Karabakh? As I understand it he favored a west alignment for a long time. And for EU Membership the Nagorno-Karabakh issue had to go away eventually.

[@HovikYerevan]

Yea, I agree with you wholly. In terms of 2019 vs. 2020, a few things... There are many who believe that the "velvet revolution" (I'd say coup) in Armenia was fully a Western project. Pashinyan always had an anti-Russian sentiment. In 2001 he penned an article arguing that Armenia should give Turkey and Azerbaijan. He was also always radically against Armenians from Karabakh, always fostering hate against them. When he assumed power in the 2018 coup, he tried to dissuade critics that he was going to change Armenia's foreign policy but opponents would say that he was just biding his time.

[@dropped_box]

​@@HovikYerevan Thank you for the answer. The only politician from Germany who showed a genuine interest in the expelling from Nagorno-Karabakh that i know of is Martin Sonneborn. He was able to give a 'speech' (one minute) at the EU-parliament on the topic. It's on YT under the name "Cooooooongratulations, Eu!". I think his wife is from Armenia. There's another German (recent) politician from the new party BSW Michael Schulenburg. He's also in the EU parliament now but has previously worked for the UN for 30 years or so as a Diplomat and Negotiator. A few weeks ago he did an interview with Glenn Diesen and Alexander Mercouris, he might be a good fit for your format. What I really hope for is to see what Mearsheimer has to say about Armenia's situation. I wish you the best.

[@MarauderinChief]

Geopolitics begins with geography. You can't formulate policies that ignore the constraints of your immediate geography. The objective for a country like Armenia should not be to persuade other countries to act in ways that serve its interests, but rather to dissuade as many as possible from acting in ways that could harm its interests. The path to the kind of security Armenia needs will come through self-reliance, not alliances."

[@faridmouslim5443]

Bonjour MR Lottaz que devient saneVox français

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Nous n'avons plus SANEVOX FRANÇAIS que ce passe-t-il ????

[@marke4640]

In the interests of consistency (rationality?) don't say "two thousand twelve". It's twenty-twelve.

[@stavroskarageorgis4804]

By all accounts, the Republic of Armenia pursued an armed irredentist policy vis-a-vis Azerbaijan after both countries became independent states after the end of the USSR.

[@stavroskarageorgis4804]

Prima facie, Azerbaijan does not have any obligations specifically to the Republic of Armenia with regard to its own citizens and residents in its own official sovereign territory who are of Armenian descent and are Armenian by ethno-religious nationality. The latter have internationally recognized rights vis-a-vis Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan has internationally recognized obligations towards them. The Republic of Armenia qua UN member sovereign state has no more and no less of a right to be concerned about and an obligation/duty to protect ethnic Armenian Azerbaijan citizens than Palau and Benin. Taking nothing away from the ethnic Armenian citizens of Azerbaijan, the post-USSR history in the region, and the actions of the Republic of Armenia have not resulted in their rights being protected. Blaming the Non-Aligned Movement or the Russian Federation or Türkiye or whomever for the plight of ethnic Armenian citizens of Azerbaijan is a bit facile.

[@Gregoryking-e9q]

This guy lose talk about Ukraine have up that nuclear weapons for security agreements with the United States and the UK and the surrounding countries like Poland and Lithuania Lafayette all those countries have a stake in Ukraine winning this war because if they take more of Ukrainian territory they feel that they are going to be invaded which they have every right to feel that way what was the one of the main reasons for the revolution of the day of my dad was that Ukraine did not want to join later on they wanted they wanted to join the EU and they have every right to join the EU and Viktor yanukovich was supposed to sign the papers and he did not sign them and he wanted the Russians to he wanted Ukraine to be with the Russian economy system which Ukraine did not want to be a part of that pho Russia invaded in 2014 and took part of Ukraine land when Russia invaded and took part of Ukraine and Russia broke 400 agreements that was signed over from 1991 to 1994 Ukraine is a independent country and has every right to join what what what Russia did it was wrong and just say the UK came back and invaded the United States because they was occupying our land for so many years and then they say that you don't have any pennies no no more unless you do what we tell you to do know we will fight you that's like the United States have never told them

[@momoshinak]

You just repeated CNN's line! Yanukovich was the president of the country and had every right and reason to consider wishes of the east and the west of the country, to prevent civil war! Victoria Nuland had no business in there! You are incoherent🤐, if you don't understand something it doesn't make it loose talk!

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Comment ce fait-il que SANEVOX FRANÇAIS N'EST PLUS SUR KZbin DEPUIS 7 JOURS, HELP