Does anyone think that Melanie Martinez is pastel goth?
@thatredheadchick58969 жыл бұрын
Yea a little bit
@peachplease32219 жыл бұрын
yeeaah i do
@艾琳l9 жыл бұрын
I honestly see her as a bit more lolitaesque than pastel goth, but thats only my opinion of course.
@SamaraNK9 жыл бұрын
She has her own style
@sophiamathes69859 жыл бұрын
+Kylie ratcher I kind of think pastel goth doll, if that's a thing.
@cemetarypercy10 жыл бұрын
Your explaination of pastel goth was accurate c: but the one of tumblr wasn't. it's more basically a place where everybody has blogs, but on the same site and you can follow different blogs. It's not solely pictures. that's instagram.
@Pewds99 жыл бұрын
Pastel goth is cute mixed with creepy. I guess. I'd like someone to correct me if I'm wrong. -.-
@kandisswilliams27199 жыл бұрын
You're right. I used to want to be pastel goth because my style is very edgy and I dye my hair crazy colors (it's grey/silver right now). But this style is a bit too girly for me
@AtlanticGiantPumpkin9 жыл бұрын
Actually, I'm pretty sure Melanie Martinez counts as Pastel Goth.
@peachplease32219 жыл бұрын
me too
@izzystrat9 жыл бұрын
Melanie Martinez is bae XD
@michalcortez54499 жыл бұрын
+Josie Alyvia shes not she says she doesnt like being like being labeled specially that bc shes not goth in any form
@AtlanticGiantPumpkin9 жыл бұрын
She sure seems like it though. I mean she's pastel, goth, adorable and scary, and also we'd like some music!
@SamaraNK9 жыл бұрын
She has her own style -_-
@pervertedpancakes98088 жыл бұрын
To not get goth people offended, could we Call it Dark Kawaii or something?
@vaan36398 жыл бұрын
I know right! There's such a label on the style as being "rude" and etc, but I love dark and kawaii things! o3o
@thex13thxchild8 жыл бұрын
REN thank you! so ignorant misinformed people don't verbally berate Goths that know it was never meant to be more than a Japanese fashion of dark kawaii and not to be literally taken as something to be merged into a Subculture that's at least twice the age as the people of which are trying to pervert change the very definition as to squeeze themselves into a subculture in which they genuinely do not belong and then call the ones who've been in it for decades bigots for getting agitated at the misrepresentation and pervertedness and the jerks going to gothic clubs insisting on Wonder girls being played, WTF man
@thepastelcandycatinwonderl31088 жыл бұрын
I lowkey like that name. But I don't get why the other goth subcultures get offended?
@3jdni5 жыл бұрын
To not offend them, you'd have to stop using creepy and dark thing's completely! In reality, it's only the gatekeeper Goths who kick up a fuss about things like this and they're not worth you going out of your way to be overly nice to...
@BabyBat1410 жыл бұрын
1:32 - 2:14 YES!!! FINALLY SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS ME! I'm a goth and I kinda consider my self Pastel Goth/Bubblegoth. I actually do listen to gothic music, fucking love gothic literature and art...I actually was into goth before pastel goth really became big. It's not because they have the word "goth" in it that they actually mean that they're goth. Chill the fuck out, you fuzzy little bat buts.
@jordanbowey417510 жыл бұрын
Pastel goth is goth and it was started by Strawberry Switchblade.
@hunnybabez697110 жыл бұрын
this IS a form of goth. its like punk; there are a lot of subgenres, not just punk. that being said, there are a lot of subgenres of goth, too.
@LilaMudbanana10 жыл бұрын
SHUT THE FUCK UP. IT IS NOT.
@LilaMudbanana10 жыл бұрын
I'm not a kid, I'm an adult. and I can't be nice when people talk such crap about my subculture.
@LilaMudbanana10 жыл бұрын
therealdeathnote3 I dont care what you think love.
@phoebedawn64508 жыл бұрын
+therealdeathnote3 you're *
@3jdni5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@demijaymes9 жыл бұрын
H&M has a lot of pastel goth-esque things!
@alizzl46318 жыл бұрын
The Problem is, I'm Pastel Goth in my INSIDE. And I'm hiding it. I don't know why.
@AmricanApplez8 жыл бұрын
same
@sammyk4818 жыл бұрын
I don't
@luvez1077 жыл бұрын
same ;-; cries
@erikaxfaye10 жыл бұрын
first rule of tumblr; we don't talk about it.
@tiniememe62479 жыл бұрын
yeah...
@garrettplaysgames2310 жыл бұрын
Would it be fine for a boy to be Pastel Goth? I think it would be totally fine, but I just wanted another opinion. (:
@BeautyBunny10 жыл бұрын
totally!! X3 That would be so original!! :D I'd love to see that!! :D
@garrettplaysgames2310 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks!!
@BeautyBunny10 жыл бұрын
Garrett W. X3
@LadyFlash88811 жыл бұрын
Cool video! You explain this fashion sense very well. Also, thanks for explaining the whole controversy between the Pastel Goth fashion and the Gothic subculture, because a lot of my fellow Goths seriously get mad over it. I'm not all in tune with the fashion of Pastel, but there's some serious respect for you for knowing your stuff, mate :) Keep being who you are
@skyeatsnikki11 жыл бұрын
I like the pastel goth look but I think its important to add your own twist on everything. If you're like me some days you wanna be cute and some days you wanna look scary-cute Then whatever, do what you want. You don't have to fit into some category. If you wanna wear all pink and blues and purples one day, and blacks and other dark colors the next, then why cant you? I think what I like most about pastel goth is that it doesn't really have a music group. Where as sometimes in the goth communities specially on sites like Vampirefreaks you'd definitely get judged for listening to things like ponponpon and not knowing who Blood on the Dance Floor are. :c I used to cam on the chats a lot and was kinda well known but all the judgement on that site is usually cruel and I decided I didn't want friends like that. I've debated getting back online with my new pastely kind of look but I'd probably be an outcast among outcast so..
@RomanticxDarkness11 жыл бұрын
I'm a goth, but i truly love this style and i'm going to start dressing in pastel, i'm just scared other goth will look down on me. But it's not going to stop me.
@ghostofdayinperson11 жыл бұрын
Love this style. Cupcakes, bats, fangs, soft colors, black, claws, liquid eyeliner, sweets, and vampires are some of my favorite things.
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
bubblegum goth is the term used for a goth who dresses in alot of mostly bubblegum blue, bubblegum purple and bubblegum pink. where i think some have ended up calling it pastel goth incorrectly due to bubblegum colors being basically pastel. confuseing the old term bubblegum goth with the hipster 'goths' second name "pastel goth", though their oringanal term nu goth is more common;y used then their second term pastel goth
@hleebeg11 жыл бұрын
A shop I would recommend is the rusty zip it does a little of everything for everyone and is super cheap and easy to find your own style. I don't know how popular it is or if they have an online shop but give it a go :) the shop does tend to smell like weed though but all well. ;)
@sbrnrn12 жыл бұрын
I actually manage to pull of pastel goth by having vampyre red and silver hair. It's just how you style your clothes, makeup and hair that makes the look complete. It's a DYI style. And there is no rule that says you need pastel/white hair to do it. Or black hair for the matter. :)
@taylorwilliams591010 жыл бұрын
@Scarlett Watson Yes, it's alright if you don't dress in black all the time. being "goth" is all about being yourself and being creative. I'd like to change my style and dress more gothic every day but my work limits me from wearing lots of jewelry, float things, etc. for me, I like to mix grunge, goth, and pastel goth when I do feel motivated to dress that way. it's cute and stylish, yet cool and comfortable.
@SSJEve11 жыл бұрын
It DOES have grunge elements, which is why its categorized under goth. Youre probably thinking of fairy kei, is more like a japanese version of pastel goth (not saying its related to its each other) but has absolutely no grunge elements, yet some categorize fairy kei as pastel goth so theres the confusion.
@MermaidIona11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation! I actually found your video searching for what pastel goth is because one of my mermaid photos (I'm a professional mermaid) was cropped by someone (they cropped out my face and torso and my website photo watermark) and posted on Tumblr without my permission. The photo has ended up getting around Tumblr and other social media platforms over 53,000 since late December X_x I’ve filed a TON of DMCA takedowns trying to stop it from being passed around. A ton of the photos were posted with #pastel goth, which I had no idea existed. I wouldn't have minded if they would have left in my face and my website watermark- them cropping it out was actually really insulting :/ Looks like I'll have to put watermarks where they can't be cropped out from now on. Anyhow, thanks for the explanation! I wish I could afford goth clothes of any kind- I love goth, punk, ect, and would probably love pastel goth- however.. I blow all my money on pro mermaiding XP I saved caerfullly for over 4 years to be able to buy my newest tail, actually :P I'm mermaidiona on Tumblr. I'll have to check out your Tumblr! It will be interesting to see if the merfolk costuming community (we’re a subculture of our own I guess you could say) and pastel goth with overlap, and if so how much!
@maddsingram146611 жыл бұрын
*Not being rude* many people who wear pastel goth styles do draw on the things that relate to the gothic look,e.g. spikes,roses, crosses,piercings, plantform shoes, dramatic makeup. they just decide to wear them in pastel colours, hence the name pastel goth
@sonicandpikachu88289 жыл бұрын
everyone is here talking about how melanie martinez could be goth and im here thinking of how i can be pastel goth but im a boy . i say im a boy pastel goth ;Π; it's gonna be so hard to find sun to me
@almondtart8 жыл бұрын
bro, just rock it. look for inspiration and just do it. people in and out of the community will support you. go do your thing and live your life pastel goth-y :D
@brokenshadows508810 жыл бұрын
I think I'm Emo and Pastel goth. Btw is Iron fist a good emo/ pastel goth brand. I found out about it from one of my friends but I think it might be too expensive
@randomanimefan01546 жыл бұрын
My older sister said that black is not a pastel goth color or that black shouldn't even be in pastel fashion cus it is more like a thing that goths only wear black thing.
@FoggleHI11 жыл бұрын
It's just the fact that when people think of goth clothing they think of inverted crosses and pentagrams,bats, skulls, etc and a lot of pastel goth clothing has that except it's cuter with brighter -well pastel- colors
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
because labels make it easier to find others of your tastes and makes it easier to explain your style and personal likes
@JuiceBoxAndTicTacs11 жыл бұрын
Your Queen's English is immpecable! Lovely to see another well spoken being ♥
@aiowhr11 жыл бұрын
It's definitely not goth by the American (or European) definition, but the style and probably the name, comes from Japanese street fashion in which throwing some black and a cross on something does make it goth. It's sort of an interesting game of inter-cultural fashion telephone.
@lyndsinabors17057 жыл бұрын
im happy to see your color of red hair (( how Im planning to dye part of my hair )), works relatively well with the pastel look in my opinion. (( If i triggered any of you back off my opinion, thank you.))
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
have you ever heard of bubblegum goth (this is a type of perky goth)? cause pastel goth is basicaly hipsters trying to attempt goth with out knowing or being invovled it the actual goth scene, the history or the music.....(and they end up looking sorta like bubblegum goth) bubblegum goth invovles heavy use of bubble gum blue, bubblegum purple and bubblegum pink, in regards to the fashion colors.
@KyukiKat11 жыл бұрын
Having an opinion is fine. Expressing it rudely is not fine.
@VeggieKane12 жыл бұрын
thanks for the explanation, the style is really appealing to me(I guess because its more colorful than typical pure black goth)
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
again pastel goth is a hipster "goth" term. and yes many people do describe goth falsely. i'm simply pointing out that the term "pastel goth"/"nu goth" is used for hipster "goths".
@L1LL38R0R12 жыл бұрын
What about guys? How should a pastel goth boy look like?
@alef_198 жыл бұрын
now I realized that this is my real style, and I love it
@tonjetapio1138 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't really say that soft grunge is gothic. Grunge is grunge and grunge is a type of music hahah
@esgexi10 жыл бұрын
I know you posted this quite a while ago, but I had a quick question. On the case behind you on the top shelf, is that a Gilbird plush from Hetalia? Just wondering. ^_^ Great video btw I really liked it.
@trashgoblin61749 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video but..from what I read everywhere else, pastel goth is "DYE YOUR HAIR USE MAKEUP AND BE BLEH BLAHBLAH"...are there really small rules I have to follow? I'm not touching my hair, wearing crazy outfits, but I enjoy creepy and cute, black and light colors, and I make freaky yet cute jewelry..all that. I just want to know what I am ;w;
@ExCathedra147811 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice video. I am not Goth or anything myself, more of a jeans and a tee shirt kind of fellow. I really enjoy watching this video you've made. By listening to you I can tell your pretty passionate about it. You have helped me learn about something completely new to me. Thank you!
@kasumikat9 жыл бұрын
nice i just got myself a cross top from topshop too! now if i get some white shorts, spray them with pastel colours then get a purple wig and some cute accessories then i'll have it! :D
@user-zh5xx8wd8l11 жыл бұрын
my friend wants to be pastel goth. i'm indie scene so she was inspired by me :) i feel proud :)
@lilymerci223011 жыл бұрын
I don't care what pastel goth is, nor goth, emo, punk whatever all the labels you put to it. I just like creepy and cute things.
@taekeyshinee10 жыл бұрын
Where u can buy high plataform shoes, pastel goth style? Where u buy your clothes?
@IrishMusyc11 жыл бұрын
She is "Lore" , from Aida (tv serie)
@breYAH00711 жыл бұрын
Q: Is there a age limit to being a pastel goth? (Can I be 40 and still dress creepy cute)
@danib973710 жыл бұрын
PLEASE TELL ME WHERE YOU GOT THOSE MARY JANE FLATS AHHH
@Patsyhoolahan12 жыл бұрын
Well we just did a Goth show. Black Goth, let me know what you think of our clothes.
@ZibraBear11 жыл бұрын
Why is it that pastel goth includes so much crosses?
@OctoberGrimm11 жыл бұрын
Cuz crosses are pretty ^_^
@ZibraBear11 жыл бұрын
True >u< sorry if i offended you, I wasn't trying to be rude. :3
@OctoberGrimm11 жыл бұрын
Nor I, just answering an honest question :D
@이재큥11 жыл бұрын
thanks for this! btw your sketches are adorable :D
@StephanosSword10 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between pastel goth and pastel punk? I've seen both used on Tumblr...
@thedrawingkit21829 жыл бұрын
A lot of the cloths you linked us are pretty pricey... is their anything cheaper?
@Vexlulz11 жыл бұрын
I can't say pastel goth has 'undeniably gothic aspects'. Studs and crosses aren't inherently goth (studs especially are more punk/metal. Tbh, if i had to put it in a box, the entire look seems closer to those imo). That's not to say that you can't dress in gothic styles whilst using studs/crosses, but then, all styles incorporate these (especially now as it's so on trend). It takes slight inspiration and builds on it sure, but there's not a whole lot from the style that's straight out of goth
@Stylomagic11 жыл бұрын
Where you can find pastel goth outfits: If you search for creepy cute shirts, look for Drop Dead. Its a very cute and creepy label and they make not only shirts :) These ones are the best in my opinion! :)
@BeautyBunny10 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!! Me and friend are gonna do this!! :D She was goth and I had a scene/emo type of style. PERFECT MIX!!!!!
@pr1ncessavar0se10 жыл бұрын
I love that song in the beginning!
@zellyou31599 жыл бұрын
Never had words to match my style I do now Pastel goth but I worry that the older goth community won't exept me as a goth?
@BRBhorror12 жыл бұрын
This was a helpful video. I'm starting to get into the fashion, do you have any tips on buying clothing that's relatively cheap? I know Pastel Goth fashion can be very expensive, and I was hoping you can refer some store online or offline that are not out there in prices.
@nickie08310011 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the mint green and black cross jumper? that is so adorable!
@veganpandabear879811 жыл бұрын
yeah i'm still trying understand it, but it is still 'goth' because 'goth' is freedom and how you take it...idk that sounded dumb.... :P i'm a trad/old school kinda gothk
@Justbekka_10 жыл бұрын
I really love this video. Its really helpful ♡ and you are so pretty
@Jewtubesuckification11 жыл бұрын
My friend recommend me to subscribed to you, and i very much see why you're fashion is very unique i mean you label yourself pastel goth, but it seems to me like you have your own style going on. It's really amazing i love it. The red hair looks really cute. I Don't know but i feel like you're very bubbly and non-elitist. I Mean majority of goths are Elitist now days, the old old goths would never judge someone else. But other than that im subscribing.
@FemiBeauty11 жыл бұрын
i adore your accent
@sheepvids484911 жыл бұрын
You can also buy pastel goth things at Hot Topic
@kirrastone227210 жыл бұрын
I love your hair!!
@xStrawberryxmilky12 жыл бұрын
Aww you're so cute! I love your shirt! ^-^ This video was very informational. I knew what pastel goth was. I just didn't understand Nu goth and the other subcultures. Haha! But you helped out! Thanks!
@PastelLoner11 жыл бұрын
Do happen to know wear you got the black rose/flower headband with the spike?
@DVXXIII11 жыл бұрын
What is a misappropriation is the fact of Cultural Capital that Pastel Goth employs. Basically most subcultures work hard at their styles, literature, music, ideology "depending on person" and seeing other styles taking certain aspects of their subculture creates an anger because its a feeling of someone "stealing?" at their subculture, The reason why Goths have these symbols "crosses, spikes etc..· is to employ the beauty of darkness that creates the Gothic style.
@AidaRaven10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info. Hope you do a DIY soon! :) College budget! And thanks for the more affordable site references!
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
again nu goth and pastel goth are terms used to describe the exact same thing hipster "goth" has been sense it started. hence why many of the videos are titled "....nu/pastel goth....) sorry but the term "pastel goth" gets used by the hipster "goths"
@sinkingskies1839 жыл бұрын
I don't know if Im more a fan or a goth than a true one. I want to dress like one. However, the fact Goths are judged puts me off a little. I listen to the music, draw Goth looks, Goth anime and love everything involved with Goth. Therefore all of this makes me consider, if im just a fan and a wanna be goth or one.
@SamaraNK9 жыл бұрын
Be what you want 😊
@Venefica8211 жыл бұрын
I love that black flowers and spikes headband where did you get it?
@0lavia12 жыл бұрын
Your doodles look like Adventure Time characters :D Love them! They're so cute ♥
@princess1salima8534 жыл бұрын
Do you have to have pastel hair and where can you get pastel goth clothes
@shitdicklizardstick527810 жыл бұрын
WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE SHOES?!?!?!?!
@Jadey10 жыл бұрын
You can find them all on the sites in the videos description
@shitdicklizardstick527810 жыл бұрын
Ok, Thx!
@absjen676910 жыл бұрын
I said to my friends i am pastel goth and they keep asking me why am i pastel goth well its my decision bit how did ur friends except u as a pastel goth
@rybooks10 жыл бұрын
Be modest in your labeling- don't call yourself goth or pastel goth unless asked- and then you'll be fine :)
@absjen676910 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your help it is very helpful and will be used x
@Vexlulz11 жыл бұрын
Japanese 'goth', unless following western trends, is often other substyles such as deconstructed lolita etc. If you mean Japanese followers of the western style, this makes your point redundant as they're copying rather than defining (goth is not a Japanese style by definition so why say goth when you mean a Jstyle) Pastel goth's origins come from many places. It is silly to define it by Japanese is styles as the style has just as much western influence (if not more in some substyles).
@eartianwerewolf11 жыл бұрын
also i know i keep talking but yeah imagine me trying to wear girl's clothes with as little pink as possible. I love color but i don't like most shades of pink. what a pain lol.
@allthatgirlcoronado12 жыл бұрын
Ignore those goths I am a goth but I don't even like to identify myself as one its not my thing to label myself
@celestialudenburg727511 жыл бұрын
light hair is recommended but ive seen some with dark hair
@derpinpoop11 жыл бұрын
Pastel goth actually started in japan,and by your room, I see you must have noticed that. pastel goth to us is just Japanese goth.
@flooshoomoo710411 жыл бұрын
that's the second rule. (the first is always reblog the founder)
@scarlettewatson31410 жыл бұрын
I have got a question I am a goth full on and everything right down to the music and poetry to the drawings and life but my style is different from what you call goth I like to dress in either normal clothes or something colorfull or I like to do a funky chic fashion. does that make me not a true goth? I thought it was alright. I remember watching this guy on youtube can't remember his name but he was talking about how you don't need to dress in all black to be considerd goth and how you can be goth and dress in all colors, just because I like to dress in all colors doesn't mean I am not goth does it? is it alright if I don't dress in all black but dress in pastel goth but still call myself goth because I like everything else having to do with the gothic culture? please I need to know!
@LilaMudbanana10 жыл бұрын
the clothing is part of the subculture. You're not Goth if you don't dress Goth and you're not Goth if you don't listen to gothic music and don't know about the art and poetry. It's all part of it, that's why its a subculture and not just fashion.
@therealdeathnote310 жыл бұрын
your a goth if you want to be simple, don't listen to other people.
@LilaMudbanana10 жыл бұрын
you're a goth if you want to be simple? that doesn't make sense. when you're part of a subculture, you don't wanna be simple. you wanna be extraordinary.
@therealdeathnote310 жыл бұрын
therealdeathnote3 don't listen to that bully, you are a goth.
@alewilliams40469 жыл бұрын
LilaMudbanana What's wrong with you? If you don't have anything IMPORTANT to say then don't, I was watching the comments and saw this, like, bitch, are you an expert? I think it's pretty stupid that you comment the vid with some stupid shit, and then response the comment with more stupid shit. You are not better then everyone here, nether do I, just, don't complain about it.
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
no i'm talking about bubblegum goth, different thing. and nu goth is pastel goth......
@Sagalflyger11 жыл бұрын
can you use naturall hair like ,brown, black or with highlights ? is tht ok etc thx c:
@FantasyJimenez12311 жыл бұрын
Pastel Goth is pretty much Bitter-Sweet Lolita except it's a little grungy.
@KawaiiStudioCrafts10 жыл бұрын
This is a great video so fun to watch :D
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
the problem with pastel/nu goth is that they claim to be goth but don't hold the personality, music tastes, literature tastes. don't no the history and have no really part in the subculture, their hipsters not goths. if you do like the music and have the personality than basically your goth regardless of the clothing you were, and of course it's best to know the history. just know that the term "pastel goth" and "nu goth" are the same and used for the hipster "goths".
@eartianwerewolf11 жыл бұрын
she explained it really well : ) . It is more of a style that is influenced. a name is a name. also yeah hipster goth is different lol. I honestly think I dress like a scene kid / rave kid with more emphasis on child like colors and shirts...so I am kinda along the line sorta...but i don't follow any style ...lol maybe i will find one i actually look like lols.
@Candyboox11 жыл бұрын
I wish I could pull off the whole pastel goth thing but im more of emo kind of style (not the stereotype- the actual type) But I do run a blog on tumblr supporting pastel goth cause I think its super cute
@cj22210011 жыл бұрын
Surprise there aren't more angsty 'why do we have to label everything' comments. I with they'd do an experiment where for one month, they'd get rid of all labels, so all the angsty, overly sensitive kids would see why that DOESN'T work. I mean,try going into a clothing store, or searching the web, finding things you like to do, places you'd like to check out, or doing whatever, without using some kind of label. It'd really waste a ton of time, or you'd never find what you were looking for
@jasminemarieblogss11 жыл бұрын
"If you don't knwo what tumblr is... Do you live under a rock?"
@echidnah111 жыл бұрын
Is no one in knowledge of the fact that just because there are people who dress in pastel goth it does not mean they are goth? Jeez we just like the style.
@karinasandez126911 жыл бұрын
wear watever the fuck you want. if u like it wear it. Make your own style. Label yourself watever you want. As long as your truly happy thats all that realy matters. GRUNGE IS NOT DEAD! Bye.
@stratosphere9411 жыл бұрын
You should definitely add 'Creepyyeha' ;D they're amazing!
@NIKORUVOCALOID11 жыл бұрын
yes, they are similar, but Kerli add some Lolita and Cyber things :3
@oliviagrace69839 жыл бұрын
i love this video and also i freaking love your accent :-)
@bbygirlari9 жыл бұрын
hi gerard
@oliviagrace69839 жыл бұрын
+ari bain lol hi
@2dead2smile11 жыл бұрын
i havenever met nor heard of any, i think you may be think of lolita goth or perky goth.......(which are types of goth)