Pat McAfee's Thoughts on Josh Gordon's Suspension

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Pat Mcafee has THEE best sports show period. There’s no argument pure content while staying on the point

[@hawksfan5]

He is getting better but Rich Eisen is the best

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Lefkoe is up there

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Is this Pat Mcafee's mom?

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[@WarpWhistleShow]

Still dont know why they gotta pay Buffalo, but them's the breaks

[@ab3040]

I wish it was 10 seconds so it only takes 1 full tap

[@Officialalmate]

As a Hawks fan this makes me really sad. I was looking forward to see his potential. He's had issues with substances and mental health over the years. I hope he recovers well

[@loganerb3952]

Officialalmate browns fan here, cut him and move on he has had chance after chance and will never get better. He will surprise you with a few bright spots and then when you start thinking you can rely on him, he fails a drug test

[@seabass9043]

It's sad because this guy had talent to be an all time great if he could have just stayed out of trouble

[@TheJonnyEnglish]

It's a conspiracy bro I swear

[@boasty3118]

Logan Erb your opinion becomes irrelevant the second you say “browns fan here”

[@ScottHillsmusclecargarage]

I was in the same mindset as a Patriots fan.

[@tornadowarrior4534]

It’s pretty sad actually. Great insight Pat.

[@george474747]

The language quickly lets you know the scale of evil they're up against here. "Substances of abuse" is one of the most Orwellian terms I've ever heard.

[@BMXK-jx1bi]

So pat couldn’t even have alcohol in his system for that time sheesh

[@brycehoward4139]

BMXK1301 it’s basically probation

[@stormknxcks8198]

BMXK1301 no he was arrested with public intoxication if im not wrong that automatically puts him into the program

[@TheodoreBrosevelt]

@@stormknxcks8198 Pat was drunk off that henny

[@SuperJohn12354]

yeah but come on , if I said here 1 million dollars for it you just can't drink or smoke weed for year, would you do it?

[@888strummer]

Sometimes hard to believe we live in America. Alcohol is legal so this is ridiculous. So Gordon might have passed 100 drug tests and then he fails one and he's history. Stupid really

[@mrdgenerate]

Oh my god. That testing is literally more intensive and more often than the 18 month county drug court program i entered to keep me out of prison. News flash... Didnt work out still went to prison lol

[@josephdavis1704]

It's funny because ppl always say the nfl gives ppl less punishment for crimes

[@bobyrd4386]

Drug court is just a set up.

[@regrettheprophet]

ive been clean for 14 months still waiting on drug court hope it keeps me out

[@joshuariley3243]

Next time, try not doing drugs for a little while.

[@lukebuehler9582]

Theyre making millions tho

[@bplup6419]

Pat: "Well, hello there!" General Grievous: "General McAfee."

[@coltonlombardo4673]

BP Lup Lmao

[@mylesjaedin1154]

W comment

[@AlexSmith-tz2lf]

General McAfee. You ARE a good cartwheeler.

[@TeamNelsonFunding]

“Substance of abuse”. -. 😂

[@jamesallen5591]

Yeah, I don't really know what that means. Does abuse come in the form of substances?

[@thirstyfajita4115]

I might be wrong but i think thats actually what its reffered to by the nflpa

[@johnnycaralta]

Then the NFL is stupid. It's called Substance Abuse, pretty simple.

[@chimrichalds3418]

i think it's like a rickyism for 'substantive abuse'

[@4lanimoyo553]

Substance of abuse: A substance that is used for abuse. Pretty simple

[@nohalfmeasures6]

To each their own, but Pat has some of the best delivery on story telling, it's a rare gift imo. He keeps your attention in an A.D.D. world.

[@hedge7]

Thank you for the perspective Pat. As a Seahawks fan, hearing this news gave me a lot of conflicting emotions from anger to pity. A lot of people here were really enjoying what he brought here, and this came right after he was talking about wanting to sign long term and loving the team. Hearing your experience helps me understand how something like this could happen.

[@deletisthefetus]

Hedge grow up he did not help the Seahawks one bit

[@Wolkness]

Wow, subject wise......... This discussion really was an eye opener for me..... Thanks Pat.

[@ivorysteele]

As George Carlin said - everyone will get 15 tries to get off drugs

[@liamryan7239]

ivorysteele I’m tired of people acting like George Carlin was a genius

[@zackydable]

@@liamryan7239 I'm tired of people being tired.

[@jcbvortex22]

Liam Ryan, George wasn’t a genius, he was just woke to the BS we are all fed by the world we live in!

[@zackydable]

@@jcbvortex22 Do you think most people know what he talked about? Not just your 3 friends.

[@jcbvortex22]

Zac Davis, Sheesh, it’s 4 friends!

[@StephanieG3T]

this was a horror story wtf! This is ridiculous.

[@0ptimal]

Yea, this is much worse than most probation and parole testing schedules.

[@dharmeshp.5565]

I deal with addiction and it's so hard. I have sympathy for this man. I need help, he needs help, all addicts new help. God bless to all the addicts

[@MidwestClang]

Good luck, homie

[@travisdavis3974]

Get help, stop whining. I have

[@brettdawson3257]

Try magic mushrooms. You'll get the perspective you're looking for

[@travisdavis3974]

@@brettdawson3257 not until he stops whining. Some people are just losers.

[@dharmeshp.5565]

@@travisdavis3974 I am a half Indian (🇮🇳) and Mexican. I ain't no fukin loser. You don't know my bringing up and everything got a testimony. You have urs and I'll never judge you. You're someone me, myself and my hood would strip you for your hanes briefs wit ur shoes and give you a use bus pass too take home on a Easter Sunday at 3am. Your more insecured than anybody commenting on this site. You know it

[@dylantubbert1665]

NFL- asks Gordon to submit piss test Gordon- ight imma head out

[@deadmilkman121]

IGHT IMMA MENTAL HEALTH BREAK

[@yaboybruce5597]

This is by far the best podcast. Thank you for all of these great stories, Pat!

[@a.lumberjack4456]

That is too much. The NFLPA should do something about this. This is too intrusive. No other work can do this to their employees.

[@NinjasDTA]

Other jobs dont pay millions a year

[@a.lumberjack4456]

What you do on your own time, should be your own business. Drinking alcohol shouldn't cost you a fine/suspension.

[@a.lumberjack4456]

@To Release is To Resolve 5th time? I am talking about the policy in general, not Josh Gordan.

[@cjr1881]

A. Lumberjack You’re wrong. They have every right to do it. It is understandable when you think about it. An ordinary job it wouldn’t make sense but the NFL wants to control what product is being produced for them. They don’t want a player drunk or high getting caught on TMZ fucked up doing something stupid that makes the league look bad. They get paid a lot of money and that is not just for what they do on the field. They have to do interviews and answer questions with media. When you are in the public eye you are always on duty. Even popular media personnel get fired when they do something like getting a DWI or Tweeting something. I’m not saying it is all fair. When you work for a company they have that right. Your option is to not work for them.

[@soundsofthecity6447]

This clip right here singlehandedly proves why the sports world NEEDS a show like Pat's. BAR NONE.

[@MauriceM_R]

Beer sponsors don’t want the NFL to bring light to the harmlessness of weed. Demonize it.

[@TheJonnyEnglish]

Of course he hunts bigfoot, Pat is the Joe Rogan of sports.

[@BigKeithDog]

In what way? LOL... I love both of their podcasts.

[@TheJonnyEnglish]

@@BigKeithDog they're both lovably eccentric.

[@socialchum]

but they're both in the media of sports

[@williamcutrell7456]

rogan is kinda wack tho

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

NFL shouldn't test for weed

[@toastburntdark8988]

Most work places do this shouldn’t be an expectation

[@911WASanINSIDEjob420]

@@toastburntdark8988 and thats bullshit too

[@kaminsod4077]

Somehow MLB, the most old fashioned and conservative of the major sports leagues, has the sense to layoff testing for weed but the nfl hasn't.

[@xxspicelord3083]

@@toastburntdark8988 he plays in a state where weed is legal, they don't test for alcohol, shouldn't test for weed.

[@brandondaniels9471]

It's like Shannon said this morning. The league tells you when they're going to test you before hand. Most players easily outsmart the system. So, if you get caught you're either dumb or you have some kind of substance addiction problem. Can't really blame this on the NFL. Gordon obviously needs help.

[@8kigana]

Thank you Pat (in case you or staff read this). I never actually realized how intense this part of the program really is. I appreciate your explaining from your first person experience and keeping it real👍🏽

[@artvandelay7608]

Gas mask bongs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@NightOwlMovieTalk]

I almost didn't watch this because I thought it would be the same old tired "GET OFF THE WEED" rant. This was incredibly informative and fair to both sides. Fantastic segment.

[@johnwilliams269]

Love this podcast you learn more about what goes on behind the scenes

[@nateworld323]

Thank you for the honesty and introspection, Pat! From a fellow Yinzer As far as I can tell with Flash Gordon, it's never been just cannabis. If he has fallen out of sobriety I wish him the best and a righteous path onward But if you look at what he's been busted for, drinking on a plane? Who tf doesn't do that. I don't want anybody smoking spice instead of natural cannabis, cannabis is proven safe and god knows what else players are taking to dodge these tests.

[@IronHide3910]

I'm glad I watched this video. Because to be honest, I was one of the people calling Josh Gordon a dumbass and saying "How tf do you fail a SCHEDULED drug test, you know for a fact down to hour of when you have to take it". I was completely wrong lol

[@michaeladams6847]

Gas mask, bong 😂😂🌲🔥🌲🔥

[@askmemum]

“Tried spice there” hahah fucking Pat is a Savage

[@flickmybic7174]

Dr. Brown don't play! Imagine getting tested 200 times

[@Adam-in4ys]

NGL I love how you introduced the advertisement

[@edi.duzit23]

Does cartwheel* well hello there

[@Squinn0303]

That is the first advertisement I have ever backed up 10 seconds for lol

[@jamessparks5966]

I love how he says "substance of abuse."

[@notsourry]

I guess now we know why Josh was so easily let go by the Patriots. Despite being a huge threat...

[@josephflanigan3649]

“We have to pay the bills.” 😂😂😂

[@lewisgriffin9684]

Pat is one funny dude I can listen to him tell the story a hundred times

[@djscruffymuff]

I love listening to pat tell stories. Best talking head in sports.

[@randy5894]

I love your show so much that I dont skip the ads.

[@jakejackson1444]

I really hope he gets a 12th chance to come back, I really think he can turn it around

[@jacobwelton6404]

Ahhh i see what u did

[@edneg1951]

HE'LL GET 10 MORE CHANCES TO GET IT RIGHT 🔌🔌🔌

[@brendantran3312]

Brooo he deserves more

[@johnglenn30csardas]

The most informative piece on drugs in professional sports I’ve ever seen. Thank you.

[@Skyrimdude1PSN]

Yesh a lot of testing just for booze macaffe

[@coleswims8043]

Very informative and a really interesting take, thank you

[@extraordinarilybasic3250]

Gordon my man made me an easy hundy this week. I was starting to think he wouldn't fuck it up, but my boi came through in the end.

[@dbzfanzone4725]

Damn🤣

[@kingmaverick4499]

Lmao

[@AbnormallyDeadly]

@@desmundlighten3603 It doesn't matter what it is but you would think he would figure it out after getting suspended multiple times. Should you get suspended for smoking weed? No. Should you be smart enough to stop after being caught multiple times? Yes. He ruined his own career. He either doesn't care or just has zero self control.

[@Semi_Successful]

@@AbnormallyDeadly clearly no control. But to be labeled as a problem, usually makes you feel that way about yourself. And what's helps numb that feeling? It's a terrible cycle, and the NFL should find a better way to feel with it than, to be on extreme parole for an NFL violation

[@matthewbarnes7537]

So when you say no alcohol, you couldn’t even go home and drink a few beers at your house or just couldn’t when you went out?

[@oghaysbone7678]

Matthew Barnes no alchohol at all bruh , not one sip

[@AbboyeLawrence]

OgHaysBone fuckkkkk

[@jlo08996]

Not true. Aaron Rodgers talks about drinking scotch regularly in his post game interviews.

[@danielrock3165]

James Ozzello Aaron never got arrested drunk after jumping into river in winter

[@mrandmrsdogaming]

Enjoy this show immensely. I appreciate how Pat associates his real life NFL experiences with the topics vs just stating opinions and bashing.

[@Zapiii69]

As a Pats fan this makes me really sad, I think all of us only wish the best for him.

[@von8089]

I may be mistaken but didn’t major-league baseball just take weed off there drug testing policy.

[@calebdaniel2624]

You are correct

[@TheodoreBrosevelt]

Yeah but now they test for opioids and stuff like that

[@tylorkenniston1192]

Yes but the NFL did not. Which makes no sense, they slam into other grown men for 3 hours a day, weed would help relieve the pain😂

[@TheodoreBrosevelt]

@@tylorkenniston1192 At least the NFL was testing for opioids when the MLB wasn't

[@elnumbrotres]

Manu Rowe only for the minors

[@isagoodtime6727]

At 3:47 the subtitles say hello is this batman

[@PhilWood82]

Kudos to Pat for staying clean during that time and using his experience to let others know what could happen if you slip.

[@beckanderson1789]

This is absurd. I guess that’s why they call it the No Fun League

[@stephenboyle8344]

Thanks for the clarification on the program. Had no idea it was that intense. Forever a Flash Gordon fan. Even if he's done in the NFL. Hope the guy can beat his demons.

[@stickfigureproducts]

Weed should be removed from the label of being an illegal drug. Alcohol and cigarettes are much worse and are actually addictive

[@manuelcastilleja2756]

Thank you!!!

[@stickfigureproducts]

@Mr.BigBoss7 i completely agree. I smoked weed for a long time till i was offered a job with much better pay but they random test all the time so i had to quit. BUT i have experienced no cravings or side effects. I was a heavy drinker and smoker for years and ive had lasting side effects from both alcohol and cigarettes that i feel are still with me even after years of being away from alcohol and about a year away from smoking. And tbh i have still have a craving for cigarettes but u just have to ignore it.

[@lukeniwollo7680]

For those who don’t know, this is not just a NFL problem. Many construction jobs (even management) have similar rules. Maybe not to the extreme extent describe here, but it real!

[@plusmoore]

"too delute...too hydrated" mhmm

[@allenstap]

In the real world that's a fail and back to jail.

[@jasonchavez1648]

Pats fan here. Wishing Josh nothing but success going forward. I'm afraid the patriots staff may have been aware, else his release made no sense. My heart goes out to him...you can see pain in his eyes when he talks. I hope he comes out of this better for it

[@ismaelmontesdeocamunoz8711]

i fucking love the well hello there xD

[@VForbes]

That's alot of insight, he did fairly well if it's that tough

[@zachcarter5321]

I thought this was an old ass episode 😂😂😂

[@mikewilhelm5647]

Sounds like Dr Brown is committing insurance fraud

[@zelanox7662]

I always hate the way people introduce sponsers on KZbin but that was beautiful

[@thejman5552]

Welp, come hit the bong with the rest of us now Josh!

[@illasofic1]

Well said Pat...

[@niarapatrick601]

Wow. Thanks Pat. Such a down to earth and honest assessment from someone who knows what's going on. Very enlightening podcast with an amazing perspective that none of us outside the NFL could have ever known...

[@caseybrown81]

Not as bad as palamalu in the C-gap

[@westonrd2628]

Not funny. Were talking bout a mans life here.

[@DoDo-zf6ds]

WestonRd416 Cry about it, but also yea it wasnt funny

[@caseybrown81]

WestonRd416 he has had multiple chances this is his fault not anyone else’s he knew what was at stake

[@tommyz1082]

This was very informative Pat! It's a sad day when the MLB is publically saying they wont test for marijuana anymore, but the NFL keeps sticking to their archaic policies.

[@steven-ny3ep]

You got to get 1 mil subs in 2020! ☝️🎉

[@loweman25]

I'd imagine he can't drink either even if the initial suspension was for weed

[@Spittin_Bars]

Fining and punishing people for smoking cannabis is insane.

[@LCL253]

We live in a world where what you do in your private time is no longer private. They say weed is legal in some states but you can't get a job if you smoke it. Generations of people having their personal and professional lives impacted over a plant that can be grown by the poorest of folks.

[@F1Slunk]

Love the show. Love hearing the in's and out's of the 'business'. The NFL policy sounds fairly hypocritical. Just like life. You can drink like a fish , but a little Jane is taboo. Legalize it already.

[@mkay6093]

This Dr Brown sounds like BUzz Killington if you ask me

[@ac5737]

SPICE! Jesus Pat yousa OG triple OG

[@ariesmel1281]

He was drafted to a state that had legalized weed, what did you expect?

[@jstenhouse22]

MA has legal weed too...

[@warthog2342]

Ohio? They haven't legalized weed

[@theffmachinee3942]

aries mel wasn’t weed tho 😂 if that’s what you’re getting at

[@Jacob-sb3su]

He wasnt drafted in seattle lol

[@raider22rich81]

@@Jacob-sb3su Dudes a football rookie obviously lol

[@BoilerBloodline]

Nobody can get clean unless they want to get clean.

[@SCORPAIN88isme]

FREE JOSH GORDON

[@DomeOrGoHome]

This is so informative. Why have I not heard anyone explain the drug testing protocols before? Thanks, Pat.

[@DHB2]

Damnit Gordon🤦🏾‍♂️ he was on his 5th second chance but I hope he gets another too much talent to waste like this

[@thomasgarcia8118]

Orlando Jones it’s hard to shake coke

[@josephmcauley7605]

@@thomasgarcia8118 LT is the greatest defensive player of all time and he had a massive problem. What you do in your free time shouldn't matter, as long as your showing up to work fucked up.

[@dylanf3108]

Joseph McAuley Players represent the league I definitely think hard drug use is the leagues business.

[@thatguyfromthatthing3006]

sounds like Dr. Brown set up shop in the C Gap

[@MrJwest57]

I'm all for 2nd chances. We're human, we all mess up whether we know better or not. But let's face facts, He's been suspended 5 times. He's had help. He's been given every opportunity in the world to straighten up and continually pisses it away. Hard to feel bad for somebody who's been given that many chances.

[@iiZAPPx]

On a human level I pray he takes control of himself. On a football level I dont feel bad because everyone else needs to abide by the rules and expectations. After a 2nd/3rd chance he should be done.

[@thumpertx1]

Sometimes addiction takes more than 2 tries to beat. If this is an addiction issue, you cant just expect someone to beat it just because. As someone who was once addicted to opioids, it's tough. Took me years to finally break myself away from it. Even some of the strongest people have their addictions.

[@MrJwest57]

@@thumpertx1 I mean that's fair. But at the end of the day every he, as well as every addict, is responsible for their own actions. His addictions and irresponsibility is going to cost him millions and MILLIONS. I felt for him after the first time and even at number 2, but this is number 5. Im a titans fan so i dont really have a dog in the fight, it's just sad to see someone that talented piss it away.

[@andrewneedham3281]

I don't know, man. I keep thinking of the support group scene in "Half Baked:" "Have you ever sucked dick for weed?" As Bob Saget said, if not, then it's probably not an addiction. I find it extremely difficult to believe that marijuana is a performance-enhancing drug; I also deny that it should be a level 1 controlled substance. Level 1: • The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse. • The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. • There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. As far as the first point, I would point out that "use" is not "abuse." I see no more abuse of marijuana than I do cigarettes or alcohol. Besides, we all know that marijuana only made it to the controlled substances schedule because of its vilification during the 1930s after hundreds of federal Prohibition agents were put out of work. The federal government saw a way to kill two birds with one stone by making marijuana illegal. in order to both provide jobs for its agents and to demonize the young, mostly black and immigrant, rising generation. Further as to the second point, I also see currently accepted uses for marijuana, given its nature in fighting pain without the use of opioids, in its ability to calm or halt certain types of seizures, in its potential for fighting the side effects of cancer treatment, and in its ability to control certain types of psychological issues such as anxiety. So, forgive me if I don't just take the word of a racist and arrogant government.

[@MrJwest57]

@@andrewneedham3281 I'm as anti government as it comes. This isn't a government issue though. This is an employer who is paying him millions for his athletic ability to catch footballs issue. I'd be willing to say most all people think weed being illegal is dumb. You know what else is even dumber though? Doing something you've already been suspended for while knowing youre being tested for it, and know is against policy but doing it anyways which resulted in a 5th suspension.

[@homelessx8882]

Joshs house is gonna be one big hot box now.

[@eliasjerhada]

The guy needs help...

[@thomasgarcia8118]

Eli rehab for coke is hell

[@jake57]

The NFL needs to get it shit together. As long as you aren't showing up high to work, anybody in a full contact sport like Football and UFC should be allowed to smoke the herb. Such a shame.

[@aaronloggins3904]

Here's a thought: stop smoking weed after you sign a contract that says you won't smoke weed.

[@joeblow9657]

How about the NFL minds its own business. It's not an employer's business to know what its employees do on their own time

[@bowlofsoup12]

I’d rather have players smoking weed every night to relief themselves rather then drink alcohol or pop all those pain killers that team doctors prescribe like candy

[@joeblow9657]

@@bowlofsoup12 Right? Weed is legal in some jurisdictions and alcohol is legal in all. I don't get how the NFL can treat ti's players like fascists but if a player beats women or Adrian Peterson beats his lid with a belt they face nothing of this sort. They get a suspension and that's it

[@patrickn8355]

"Yessa masta sir you need my pee in which cup nah?"

[@Paul-vb4mn]

As a former addict, you don't "accidentally slip up," Pat. You make a decision. Josh Gordons drug problem hasn't become more painful than it's worth to him. Sadly, it usually doesn't until you've destroyed everything. Maybe never being able to play in the NFL again will hurt him enough to wake him up.

[@jeter1194]

Who cares anymore..

[@luisc5323]

I mean you’re on the video commenting?

[@timmylong833]

6 Rangz probably bc just listening to Pat is fun. The subject could be shit, but his opinions are interesting

[@911WASanINSIDEjob420]

@@luisc5323 you really care about people smoking weed? wow your cool

[@jeter1194]

@@luisc5323 because I like listening to Pat McAfee not about this dude thats had more chances than anyone to get it right and has shit down his leg every chance he gets ...that's why I comment 6 Rangz anything else ?

[@johnnylawson69]

I'm all for supporting him. He obviously has an addiction problem. He will probably never be in the NFL again. He needs help, but I'm sure everyone can agree on that.

[@Football__Junkie]

Why does the media keep recycling the same story about Josh Gordon every year?

[@matthewcolwell6593]

Bc it's been on repeat for real lol

[@ericmoore4031]

Pat's SeatGeek cartwheel is epic

[@X_Online801]

You can 24 months probation for smoking a joint. That's crazy excessive 12 months I would get, but 2 years of constant tests must have to affect you mentally.

[@VanillaRice024]

Josh Gordon's issue wasnt weed to start with. Hes addicted to xanax, and alcohol mainly. Hes opened up about this in the past.

[@christophersmith8486]

8:12 LMFAO been there

[@jonmars9559]

I still want a better explanation for the PEDs. If Josh Gordon smoked some weed, I have one opinion of the situation. If he used performance enhancing drugs, I have another. I'm so sorry to see this opportunity with the Seahawks end so quickly. He seems to have fit in very well. Wish him all the best.

[@codyrichless2952]

That ad was fucking tremendous

[@dharmeshp.5565]

This guy is awesome

[@Mr_CGS]

Josh Gordon needed to take a play out of the Percy Harvin, Weed playbook....

[@edclimax]

Love the duck hoodie.

[@omarjamal161]

People have no sympathy good story and insight pat

[@dirtyrandy2592]

I am a former heroin addict who stopped doing heroin to avoid prison... don’t tell me Gordon is not an idiot.