PAT METHENY-WHISTLE TEST INTERVIEW+MUSIC-BBC 2-1984

Pat Matheny interviewed by David Hepworth.
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[@zenpaganwarrior]

"Do you actually sell any records?" Why do you think you're interviewing him? BBC journalism standards...non-existent here? I mean, come on...Pat is an extraordinarily affable, wonderful guy to put up with that nonsense so cheerfully.

[@MegaSteve1957]

Well at least the sock puppet " Allowed " Pat to play.

[@JoshCohenBassPlayer]

Totally, this interviewer is being quite the asshole.

[@Dzonrid]

What an idiotic comment!

[@carlbowles1808]

The pat metheny group is the soundscape of my youth. Whenever I hear them I remember a beautiful time physically gone, but spiritually here.

[@williamroark]

Oh Lyle......... 😢 too soon buddy!!!! (You’re my FAV forever)

[@Vejur9000]

Listening to Pat Metheny, reconnects one with the soul. Even in dark times, there is light.

[@jandekker6008]

People new to Pat and his music: That music at the 12 minute point is NOT Pat. It's filler to mask the actual track and stop the video being taken down for copyright reasons. Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your day.

[@nested_King]

thanks for the explanation, because I was flipping out there for second

[@jandekker6008]

That said, the vid was originally for Are you Going With Me? but on this programme they played it with Tell it All.

[@katharinajohnson2761]

kinda ticked that they did that, but I get why..

[@MikolaiStroinski]

This piece is actually cool. Whats the name of it?

[@montanajoe4636]

@@MikolaiStroinski i kinda wanna know too? It reminded me of Super Mario Galaxy

[@cosmoduemila]

His secret must be the striped shirts. I should buy one.

[@luisgallardo1945]

cosmoduemila I tell you it’s not. I have lots of striped shirts. Still no magic.

[@thewoodys_surf_instrumental]

I think he saw it worked for The Beach Boys.

[@paulkoester7039]

Where's Waldo? Oh wait... 0:30... there he is.

[@donDonau]

@@thewoodys_surf_instrumental Or Eddie Van Halen.

[@ianwilkinson99]

In interviews like this, what emerges is Pat's simple joy, and his love of life and music. Always appreciate his gentle sense of humor and his humility. What a star.

[@marilynzabilski739]

Going back in time to when I was first introduced to his amazing music... still a big fan!

[@macdad159]

Danny Gottlieb is a monster drummer

[@nealgold4290]

Wow...look at Steve Rodby playing an instrument that (many said) would replace his main axe.

[@elirudi4695]

Definitey yes👍

[@rifosi]

Absolutely!

[@gcdrt6dyufiy]

I've met pat. he was pretty nice actually.

[@radio645]

"Lyle is in another room down the hall..." too bad they didn't interview Lyle for this program.

[@blakebrothers]

Now we can only hope he is in another room down the hall. Ugh - what a loss for the musical world.

[@TheZenguitarguy]

Having owned several Synclaviers I can say that what Pat did with this tech is quite amazing! Especially using the Guitar trigger.

[@clemintine99]

Seeing MIDI in its earliest stages is insane

[@bstrd525]

Ha. Funny how he says jazz like "JYAAZZ". Must be a Missouri thing.

[@masonreynolds9920]

From KCMO, can confirm.

[@rillloudmother]

he also pronounces the words, root and Missouri in Kansas City style.

[@thill47]

WOW ! First time I have ever seen an interview with Pat and love his view points on Jazz vs Pop, rock. Jazz is truly a unique art form and in my books the best way to colour music. I went to Pat Matheny's concert here in Perth Western Australia some years ago and was blown away. Also how technoligy has changed since that interview. Thank you Pat, your music realy takes me places. Terry Hill Jazz Fremantle

[@ConservativeAnthem]

Pat very gingerly explaining Florida geography! lol

[@GaiasFleas]

Metheny has always been a class act in interviews. Thanks for letting other jazz artists like me see this!

[@cobblewright]

He could've worn some pants though.

[@manuelugartearce8241]

@@cobblewright xD HAHAHA

[@rillloudmother]

@@cobblewright he was rocking the short shorts at least until 1989

[@txa1265]

I got to work with a Synclavier II in college around this same time, amazing instrument, wild looking back at the DEC terminal and how much work everything is by today’s standards! Always love watching Pat talk and play.

[@jpgcomposer]

Wonderful to hear Nana playing percussion on the clip.

[@headsail]

Nana Vasconcelos on percussion.

[@taildragger53]

Yes the late Nana Vascocelos. What a superb musician!

[@nogbadthebad2609]

Thanks for this. I recorded this on VHS video when it was first broadcast, still have it, but it's in bad shape. Met Pat at Hammersmith Odeon the same year. The bass player Nick Beggs was sat in front of me in the audience I remember. Great gig great memories. I talked with Pat about Allan Holdsworth. Such a nice guy. Saw him a few times after that. Always great gigs.

[@adrianzag]

honest man, honest, amazing music. genius!

[@brucemoeller]

Crazy to see him so young. I've been following him since about 1979-80, and seen him perform 6 times. His shows are always wonderfully interesting, connecting, and enlightening. He's gone through many changes, and brought in many young and talented artists. Great storyteller. I have utmost respect for this great human. Have a blessed New Year!

[@roqsteady5290]

Pity the BBC axed the old grey whistle test (back in 1988!)... David Attenborough who commissioned it was the best director the BBC ever had and his programming has had a longer lasting impact than anything else the Beeb has ever produced.

[@darkoanton5]

Naná Vasconcelos is one bad ass percussionist.

[@darkoanton5]

I was thinking the exact same thing watching the performance clips.

[@johnnyroyblues]

DOS music notation program there...maybe SCORE...Soooo archaic! I may have had a similar DOS notation program but learned Finale instead starting around 1992. Interesting!

[@IainHatt]

He’s so diplomatic. By this time I don’t think he recorded for ECM again.

[@milesdavidsmith]

"The only guitarist I would allow to play this quickly", this guy is calling the shots!

[@Happy-Me.]

How far the computer in Music production has come.

[@herrbonk3635]

Sadly, yes.

[@amsedelm]

Wow, Pat using the bridge pick up for that video. He's a great player.

[@MAStudio64]

PAT METHENY! I love You,as you now already,is not sexual ofcourse, great interviev,thanks for upload.

[@johnreed9435]

Rest In Peace Lyle!

[@taildragger53]

And also Nana Vascocelos.

[@lukex1337]

RIP to the legend!!

[@rstyknfe]

Listen to that beautiful mechanical keyboard.

[@misterfunnybones]

Technology explodes the boundaries so that anyone can create music, but far fewer can create good music & fewer than that can create good music & play it well.

[@travelingman9763]

Plus they take gigs away from seasoned musicians. Lots of them show up late for gigs while the fact is they live with parents well after 20 years old!

[@matthewrammig]

Pat came here to Orlando a few years back, and packed out the Walt Disney theatre. So I guess a lot has changed.

[@rr7firefly]

Looking at Pat's project, the Orchestrion (many years ahead in the future) it's interesting to see that even back in 1984 Pat was at the forefront of music technology. That computer was at one time the grooviest thing around.

[@screamcork11]

Have been a huge fan since the very early days - thanks so much for posting this!!

[@KissaKolme]

I like that the clip starts right after a Daft Punk interview in 1984

[@CS-mo7xp]

Daft Proto-Punk, as they were known back then

[@rickboone6949]

Absolutely the greatest guitarist in the world.

[@zenpaganwarrior]

Alongside Todd Rundgren, Pat is my favorite musician.

[@biorythmicshifter]

Let’s not forget about Alan Holdsworth, John McLaughlin and Al Dimeola...

[@rickboone6949]

@@biorythmicshifter I forgot none of them or many other outstanding guitarists; none are the equal of Metheny (and don't even get me started about his compositional brilliance).

[@brendanmurphy4866]

@@rickboone6949 Paco de Lucia.

[@elviok9550]

Alan Holdsworth probably greatest artist since Beethoven.

[@yinoveryang4246]

2:40 “You weren’t a snob were you?” - no the snob is you David. Let's thank the stars Metheny was ALLOWED to play that quickly,

[@j.walker6845]

Nat he gave us this interview, didn’t he?

[@herrbonk3635]

What? Pat readily admitted to being a jazz snob as a kid (just like i would btw).

[@taildragger53]

It s kind of typical 1984 smug English yuppiness.

[@herrbonk3635]

@@taildragger53 Hmm? Please listen to Pat's answer! He admitted to being a snob, without any hesitation. Has that word really lost all of its self ironic connotations since the 80s? (I wouldn't know, perhaps, being scandinavian.)

[@Mr.S369]

I've been listening to Pat since 1983, and I'm a Canadian.

[@TheHumbuckerboy]

A wonderful composer and player ...definitely one of my favourite ever guitarists !

[@darkoanton5]

An outstanding guitarist and an otherworldy composer.

[@TheHumbuckerboy]

Agreed.

[@aartman01]

My favorite musician since 1983 and PMG my fave band also. Heard them live in LA In 1984 and have been blown away ever since.

[@juancpgo]

awesome software, is there a mac version? :P

[@herrbonk3635]

This was not a "PC version" or something like that (but I guess you already knew that).

[@tomm_katz]

That cavernicolous MuseScore looking cool

[@Mrius86]

All rebellion, jazz and punk, they have some similarities, I feel.

[@darkoanton5]

The rebel with a cause - Pat Metheny.

[@geraldmellon740]

Love Pat’s sound

[@RealDiaz]

I bought my first PM album in 1980 at age 13. Its been a long amazing journey for this amazing talent. He has really enhanced my experience on this planet to say the least.

[@paulinesellars9764]

Will do thanks. Great news about the Metheny Group new album next year...and fingers crossed for a live performance after that!

[@fastjazz]

This is hilarious watching that old technology on an iPhone 6s Plus today! Great guitar player / awesome live shows!!

[@chadjohnson-authormusician8072]

Great interview ... it's nice to hear him talking about the business and logistic end of it as well.

[@francescodivita1120]

Pat Metheny using an old VT101 terminal, OMG what a funny scene. Stone age machines, so much time has passed. BTW his 80s music is still great.

[@dvamateur]

Nowadays machines might be more advanced, but people are more stone age. The grunts who can only operate touchscreen and mouse.

[@herrbonk3635]

Well, if the microprocessor controlled VT101 was "stone age"? What then was the electro-mechanical printing terminals of the 1960s? (Hooked up to computers built with discrete transistors.) What was the hardwired electron tube based calculators of the 1940s and 1950s? What was Konrad Zuse's mechanical and relay based computers designed in the 1930s and 1940s?

[@8dioproductions]

Freeze frame 8:58 and tell me what is the first thing that comes to mind ...

[@3rdmm]

The last video bit is the BBC being "creative"; it's the rare "Are You Going With Me" video they're destroying by replacing the audio with the 'First Circle' track.

[@heatherstub]

I became a huge fan of his in 1982, and he's still absolutely one of my favorites! I saw him in 1984 with "First Circle" and guessed the title's rhythm to be in 18-8 time. He was blown away. It's 22-8! I'll never forget that. I still hope I can meet him, because he's such a huge inspiration.

[@scandalinbohemia]

Classic English music snob journo from the '80s. Pat's studio equipment reminds him of a bank - obvs because jazz is so bORING! Ah man, the petty prejudices of their type. Pat is oblivious to it all.

[@nobodady1]

It is amusing how old this fancy technology is, of course. Now he's got the Orchestrion thing etc etc..

[@MrHighgate123]

I cant believe this,this is the episode of the "old grey whistle test"that got me into Pat metheny all those years ago,one of the best days of my life and i loved him ever since,my fav all time musician,a musical god and only a couple of weeks ago saw him at the barbican in london.

[@Drivethebeat]

The Synclavier

[@Flamencanta]

I love pat's style man its crazzy !!!

[@merhbass]

9:12 - Those distinctive classic bells (not so much a literal vibraphone) such an effective "warm" sound. Applied a bit in the song, "Goodbye" off "Travels". One of those details, flavors, in their ensemble/orchestration at the time that hooked me from my classic/prog rock back in middle school, to a broader pallete.

[@markdarnell614]

WTF is going on after minute 12:00? That's the most inane shit, EVER! Completely incongruous with PMG!

[@alanblakeguitarist]

That's not Pat's music at the end! Must have changed it for copyright purposes on KZbin. This was the greatest time for Pat and Lyle!

[@braddietzmusic2429]

[Computer voice] "Would you like to play a game?"

[@Hedgehogsinthemist123]

Wow, this is amazing. Never seen Pat play keyboards, and he can play. Shame didn’t feature Lyle more.

[@VitJazz]

This is an awesome piece of documented history! BTW, my like was 100th :)

[@heatherstub]

What happened? Pat was talking about what the guitar was doing when this weird, spooky music came on all of a sudden. At first, I thought it was an ad, but I stopped the player, as I discovered that it was still part of the interview?

[@bradmicheallyerla3134]

Pat just simply Rocks, in Jazz .lol

[@kevinjonesmusic]

4:00 Facts

[@uneedtherapy42]

the last of the truly great jazz innovators... am I wrong?

[@anteatermkIV]

To me, you are right. I loved Pat ever since I was a high school kid listening to the Who. But I'm old and I'm probably missing some great new guy somewhere.

[@nitroxsam66]

uneedtherapy42 : Far from the last jazz innovator. Bill Frisell, Jim Campilongo come to mind for guitar. Pat is probably the most well known however.

[@alejandrosoza8006]

No kidding I would say he was the second. First Charlie Christian.

[@alexmelillo1247]

Speranza Spalding, Jacob Collier and Dirty Loops come to mind as current jazz innovators

[@jasoncarpp7742]

That's crazy, that a guitar can play the sounds of various instruments.

[@wakajawaka]

What a good sport he is.... Last 2 minutes aren't "Tell it all" though....

[@pabloduran8100]

What's this software that makes the guitar sounds like various instruments back in 84!?

[@MARDIUNO7]

PAT , I HAVE THIS FEVER...MORE COWBELL !!

[@taikoking1]

Thank you for clearification. BBC indeed messed up big time. Maybe the production team from the Benny Hill Show did the final edditing for this video.

[@jpgcomposer]

This music over the final video of Tell It All is bizarre and obviously not PMG.

[@driggerfireon5760]

So cool

[@egyptianminor]

lovely lines from @ 6:39 onwards - classic Methteny figures @ 6:47/48-54-55.

[@Umziky]

Why is he not wearing pants though? :D

[@whatthecello42]

+Umziky It was the 80s, man.

[@taildragger53]

He still wears shorts and many other musicians do onstage nowadays. I think he's always liked to feel comfortable..and if that is what does it.why not? If Angus Young can...

[@i_never_asked_for_an_alias]

Well, me neither right now.

[@raywarth972]

what is daft punk doing there in the beginning of the video

[@taildragger53]

Ha ha..i was also thinking of "'Buggles"'.

[@nealgold4290]

"Something About Us?"

[@phenomenlogische]

haha exactly the first thing I thought

[@glenkepic3208]

Step into the way back machine :). Read many interviews and have lots of releases but only saw him and the PMG once, right around this time, Berkeley outdoor. Best times of my life.

[@theresa42213]

Wow! l forgot how young he was!!

[@forewardaudio]

Wish I had these guys performing in my house! 13:45

[@rythman6969]

Dude !!!! Listen to Nana @ 7 min. Yeah Baby !!! This is cool. Thanks for posting this.

[@realitykicksin8755]

First Atari MIDI computers were so advanced.

[@vjjejacobs]

Great video, thanks a lot. Very funny to see they put in the song "Tell it all" on the video of "Are you going with me?", as if we wouldn't notice :-)

[@heatherstub]

Enjoy the audio, then. Why don't you? Besides, it's the music and the man behind it that counts. And even though I'm blind, I can say Hush! Close your eyes, and listen to the scenery!

[@jimster24]

Great interview! Wish there were more Metheny interviews online. Very clever guy and certainly on side as regards jazz vs pop discussion! Thanks for posting.

[@blisterfree]

"I would allow" in the British sense of the term, probably, ie, "maybe." Of course it's not true and not the point anyway. Pat has conceded that most of what he plays is very easy to replicate, but is focused instead on note choice, melody, and that's where his music is so unique and exceptional. No one plays the guitar with Pat's sense of off-the-cuff melodicism. Or so I would allow.

[@thevideoknife]

technology in the 80s lol. we've come billions of miles from this type of midi.

[@egyptianminor]

British wit notwithstanding, the Synclavier does indeed look like 'a cross between musical stuff and something you might find behind the counter in a bank'.

[@benoncambie]

Thanks for posting this video. It sure shows how far computer music technology has come since 1984.

[@WayneJoness]

Wow...bummer that the audio is gone. Would you be reposting this again any time soon? Or to a different host? I would certainly love to hear this.

[@RonCarterBassist]

👏🏾👏🏾

[@haysfordays]

Awesome Synclavier demo!!!!

[@metheola]

Superb find. Pat your still as brilliant as ever!!

[@gjpvidz]

is there a name to the amazing jam that kicks in at 6 minutes?

[@MrEogh]

Works better than Sibelius!

[@MrCatalysis101]

Unbelievable tone.