Wooohooo! I really wanted to see this build working
@nicoinformatics8 жыл бұрын
I did some experiments and some paper math regarding delirium, consuming dark and overall LL delirium bow vs skin setup, and I concur with your conclusion. First of all, for single target and on higher map bosses, as long as you could do a few ED hits every second or so, consuming wins over delirium, even when nothing else put into the equation. The only case where I found delirium performs better is when you're doing low-mid tier maps where you just want to one shot stuff and leave it at that. Second, this setup allows you to min max the build way better than a LL delirium bow version, even with Pain Attunement put into the consideration. You could still reach 10k+ ES with good rolls on gear (esp. crystal belt), which allows you to wield consuming + delirium dagger + a +1 to gems chest (which gives the same result as having +1 to gems bow, thus the level 26 ED gem is also achievable on this setup), this provides some insane level of damage and completely outstrips the LL shav delirium bow version that some people seems to think is the 'best' ED setup, with about a tenth of the overall cost.
@LiftingNerdBro8 жыл бұрын
Pinned, thank for your explanation. Now I don't have to! :D
@xDwayne98158 жыл бұрын
What if I had a +1 gems shavs?
@meepmeep12148 жыл бұрын
xDwayne9815 then u dont need a +1 bow for lvl 26 ed
@coulombeQC8 жыл бұрын
I hit 10k quite easily with no shield and a shav and all damage on tree except the shadow starting nodes at lvl 85
@nicoinformatics8 жыл бұрын
+Name Delirium is great, no one's denying that, it's still insane even after the nerf. The problem with it is that while passives and gem links does affect the decay (credit goes to /u/Sheapy for the testing done), it does not stack as in further/continuous application only refreshes the dot, unlike poison With high enough ED damage (from gem levels, and your passives and gear), a few hits would already beat a 10s decay application from delirium, even among endgame bosses, there are very small percentage of them where you can only do one ED hit every 10 seconds. So in short, if you can do in average even one ED hit every 1-2 seconds per 10 seconds, poison already wins over delirium. By higher map, I mean higher map, and I do believe LNB also refers to endgame bosses, not something like merc voll or a T10 boss with no health mod. Anything lower then Delirium wins almost always. By "anything else put into the equation" I was referring to your gear and passives, not the condition when you're fighting. On a side note : Ideally, you want to grab both consuming dark and delirium, since this build allows you to, unlike the other version. And I played ED for quite sometime and has been my default progression character on every league that I've played, and by power/cost ratio, the version in this video is about as good as you can get from an ED without spending dozen of exalts on a character so I highly recommend people to try out this build. The only changes I would make is taking Piercing Shots over the bottom left duration nodes LNB has, but that's completely subjective and how I personally like to play ED. The current tree in this guide is already good as it is.
@AngryJesus18 жыл бұрын
I hope that someday you will get to the 100k subs and then it will skyrocket like BAM, best PoE youtuber there is, imho
@zabumafu73117 жыл бұрын
also I think the delerium is better because of how long it lasts...u can shoot one time and temp chains will make it so they take massive amount of dmg due to the "other effects expire 40% slower" multiply that by the 40% cure effect from tree 4% from jewel and 30% from enchant makes effect expire 70% slower making them take 750 chaos dmg(which is also modified by gems) over 17 seconds on top of essence drains debuff
@blacktenshu8 жыл бұрын
I'm doing the 6L shavs dual wield version with Scion. Kinda wish I was occultist but the pierce is fairly nice. Presence of Chayula provides me with an extra 1.3k es and near capped chaos res. I'm sitting at 9.2kes but it was extremely expensive. 10ex for the 6L shavs, 3.5ex for Chayula, and about 2ex for the rest of the gear/gems. Hardest part for me right now is getting a lvl-21 essence drain. Coloring the shavs is a pain in the ass too.
@leosham8 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year :)
@MagnaMidan8 жыл бұрын
yo bro! You could try a +1 delrium weapon with a drillneck and pierce. Incredibly superb damage.
@MKP2W8 жыл бұрын
Nice build I will definitely try that out because it seems cheap to construct. Im kind of a noob here, how are you getting a bonus 6k temporary shield at times? Is that a flask or spell?
@rikka25148 жыл бұрын
vaal discipline
@MKP2W8 жыл бұрын
thank you
@zabumafu73117 жыл бұрын
hey lifting I'm doing a similar build but using a short bow so I can get delerium and 1+ on the bow and you can use shav+ soulstrike and I have massive curse effect so monster move Uber slow
@ccax748 жыл бұрын
How about Consuming Dark AND Delirium? That's what I'm running atm.
@claudiowang78818 жыл бұрын
lift i have a question... can u update a skill beginner video.i just start playing and i need a guide for marauder.Nice vid
@MericatCi8 жыл бұрын
how would you compare trickster and occultist? i personally feel like trickster is superior, but seening way more occultists lately that use ED... could you make a little "versus" of both classes? is trickster simply the more-currency version thanks to req. a +1 curse somewhere else?
@IMaxMuh8 жыл бұрын
You really dont need a Shavs for lowlife version of this, I'm running lowlife with skin of the loyal. The upgraded Chayula necklace yields crazy good ES , got like 600life unreserved and with capped chaosres there are absolutely no issues. For things like Chayula breach u can just deactivate the aura on life. About 10k ES with skin and dualwielding, ofc with Ragalia that can go alot higher but I went for maximum damage.
@cadesaxstone8 жыл бұрын
Hey Lifting. Do have 100% pierce if so how have you generated that without the pierce nodes? would you not reccomend dual wielding if you go CI ? I have 9k energy sheild with a dual weild delirium set up and making use of spell damage while dual wielding jewels...
@EldostDustlighter8 жыл бұрын
Any chance this gets a Forum Guide anytime soon? :)
@leodosban8 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff
@DerAlexD8 жыл бұрын
Yo Lifting nice Build currently playing it Low life with 6l shavs. what would you recomment: 3 Curses With heretic helmet or what else ?
@felixbastisch16438 жыл бұрын
Is there any kind of leech in this build or how do you sustain your ES? seems nice i will give it a try
@Hulio22058 жыл бұрын
no leech occultist regeneration you just ed enemies and run around and dont get hit
@felixbastisch16438 жыл бұрын
ah ok ty :) never played ES before neither did i play occultist so thats new for me :D
@darryll40498 жыл бұрын
Ya easier said than done in some breachs.... I've been getting owned.
@Kavsen958 жыл бұрын
9:15 yeeee gurl smack dat mic
@Insomnia1234o00o8 жыл бұрын
I'm having a lot of trouble sustaining long boss fights as a CI character without ghost reaver.
@iu78607 жыл бұрын
I'm new to the game and wondering if this build is doable for someone new with 0 currency? I'm not completely oblivious, I came from D2 so I understand some mechanics, and I've been looking up beginner guides like mad.. but most of the labeled "beginner-friendly" builds look boring af to me. I mean have an easy ride is nice and all, but I'll probably lose interest if I'm not really into it. Especially coming into a new game, I haven't fallen "in love" with the game yet so I want something that will grab me and entice me to keep playing. Would I be able to pull this off based on this video guide and skill tree links? Or is there a written guide I can follow somewhere as well? Or is this build way over my head? Any suggestions of something else engaging and fun to play? I'm looking at witch or ranger.. preferably no "summoner" builds because I find them super lame to play. Any feedback is appreciated, thanks!
@venom4932158 жыл бұрын
Hey Lifting, what filter do you use?
@NeeguHertz8 жыл бұрын
Every time you pronounce an "S", it rips through my eardrums. Man!
@brettpierce52258 жыл бұрын
Yeah it makes my speakers go all tinny and rattle lol
@trimetropinsulfa40278 жыл бұрын
how is the leveling process
@Red_Salmond7 жыл бұрын
trimetropin sulfa Easy... u run this but u simply run until all mobs get into a pack... one mob dies and it spreads like butter.
@DAVEENGENEER8 жыл бұрын
Hi friend! How is that you have 1 hp? Do you use a specific gem/item/jewel?
@suhdews8 жыл бұрын
He has 1 HP from Chaos Inoculation. It's a node on the talent tree. It makes you immune to chaos damage, but brings your HP to 1.
@Hulio22058 жыл бұрын
Instead of a shield, you can use delirium weapon and a consuming dark = even more damage ... just sayin
@Adamlissmano8 жыл бұрын
Just sayin? Guess what, he said that in the video aswell :)
@킹새우-w1q8 жыл бұрын
hi i have a question. if switch this build for inquisitor, forgive 70% and +100 energy shield but i can have 500% critical chance with 300%multipler or 40%more damage by elemental overload. how about?
@Red_Salmond7 жыл бұрын
이승원 Nope... hes not using crit here
@PamyChan78 жыл бұрын
How u get such a high es? i have craft my itens and done like 'how to ci video' but i got 6200 with discipline and all nodes of skill tree 190 es glove , 290 es from heretic veil,788 vaal regalia,210 es boots and 120 maximum from belt. wtf i doing wrong?
@ccax748 жыл бұрын
Seems you don't have "all nodes of skill tree". Otherwise that's hardly possible. What are you referring to? Lifting's skill tree? Make sure you have enough strength/dex/int for your gear and all gems and that no item is "deactivated".
@PamyChan78 жыл бұрын
mesmo que elevação es sucks
@rikka25148 жыл бұрын
did you get the nodes behind ES? the more multiplier for ES will prob bring that all up
@PamyChan78 жыл бұрын
of course i did
@zCr3ative8 жыл бұрын
You are doing something incredibly wrong, i have 10k ES without Discipline and less ES on the gear than you, and i took only the most important ES nodes. Also using Shaper boots and Winds of change which give little to no ES.
@Meytren7 жыл бұрын
I have a question lifing. on your belt you have a lv. 15 vitality skill. how do you handle the mana reservation? Tvm
@brettpierce52258 жыл бұрын
Seems like a really interesting build that I think I want to try out, but I'm wary that at first glance it seems really expensive. Anyone playing this on Standard have an estimate on how much the build costs? Also what skills work well while leveling with this build?
@christiansrensen5148 жыл бұрын
it isn't expensive in the slightest. the only expensive thing is skin of the loyal which is optional, everything else is cheap af.
@alexthai52238 жыл бұрын
would it be fine to run a curse with this character
@kingthantmm8 жыл бұрын
Bro, when are u going to build a ranger?! :D
@1421-x7c7 жыл бұрын
is it good for farming uber lab?
@Ghostonm8 жыл бұрын
How do i level this? I actually watched the guide on how to level casters, but the essence drain build isn't exactly the commons caster, is it?
@raphaelmerino1008 жыл бұрын
So... i Have a question, right now i only have a Loyal 3 Blue/2 Green/1 Red, so what gem should I run with it?
@xXxDevilTheBestxXx8 жыл бұрын
I gues for the bandits , we kill them right? Newbie
@felixbastisch16438 жыл бұрын
bandits are in the discription :p
@xXxDevilTheBestxXx8 жыл бұрын
yep , i saw that , but i dont rly understand if i show kill them or help them :)
@felixbastisch16438 жыл бұрын
you jsut kill them every time in every difficulty :P Ms. Lelblenc
@xXxDevilTheBestxXx8 жыл бұрын
ty :)
@jhschuster8 жыл бұрын
Is this viable for hardcore?
@Ghostonm8 жыл бұрын
This build is possible on Shadow?
@michaelcabrera62108 жыл бұрын
There are a few trickster variants. ItsYogi and Project PT have good guides. You can probably get away with just using there skill tree and using the same gear, but they have interesting input on support gems, unique and other stuff. Here is Project PT's guide: www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716534 He has his vids linked in the text guide and he links to Yogi's skill tree and guide in the "Chaos Inoculation Tree" spoiler tab.
@OriginalThisAndThat8 жыл бұрын
Did you say consuming dark? :P
@taskforce95598 жыл бұрын
what about 2 80% breath of the council?
@Nerdtron938 жыл бұрын
Doesnt have poison so the single target REALLY takes a hit, also you just dont need that increased duration, with temp chains you get like 6 seconds and ive never once seen a essence drain stay around that long. Also whirling blades
@negoitafernando20798 жыл бұрын
Dude how do I get this skill book skin? I can't find it in the mtx shop :3
@NicolasSound8 жыл бұрын
how do i stop dying from puncture from every single pack with this build?
@SeekNeo7 жыл бұрын
You need to remove bleed/freeze/burning with flasks, most CI builds need to roll these mods to remove debuffs in flasks
@MahPopTart8 жыл бұрын
Is this build HC viable? :)
@existenz38837 жыл бұрын
how you do aoe damage with this build?
@apex6057 жыл бұрын
contagion
@j72ashley7 жыл бұрын
Still can't figure out why his sub count is so much lower than ZiggyD. More people should sub up if they play POE.
@Sketan10008 жыл бұрын
This is like exactly the build i was gonna make... rip prices on poe trade
@Nerdtron938 жыл бұрын
Theres enough consumings in the market that its HIGHLY unlikely any real effect will happen, and CI gear is stupid expenisve in general cause of the meta. No real change anticipated
@ElmertheEmoEmu8 жыл бұрын
Time to resell consuming darks boys!
@Astamor8 жыл бұрын
I've played similar build for like 2-3 weeks and "profane bloom" was the worst choice I've made. It was pain in the ass and ruined the joy o playing Essence Drain, especially in maps.
@gangstar5959598 жыл бұрын
lol still using 3 chaos helm liftingpoor bro :D
@LiftingNerdBro8 жыл бұрын
Well, it is supposed to be a "budget" build :D
@ehawk79218 жыл бұрын
Isn't everything, ever? lol
@grayduster8 жыл бұрын
That's ok, you're wearing a nice multi-exalt shield, so that makes up for it :)
@dexgaming47818 жыл бұрын
damn...what's the music in the background?? lmao
@lISamuraill7 жыл бұрын
2.6 viable?
@Red_Salmond7 жыл бұрын
Suzuki Shinji Maybe 3.0 viable
@Lone__Wolf4077 жыл бұрын
delirium is way better over longer fights like guardian's/shaper and uber atziri
@IndrekKlanberg_EestiOrav8 жыл бұрын
3G2B1R Skin of the loyal has gone up to 3 exalts now luls, I bought it for 120 c. But still sucks for me, cos a +1 one is going more expensive faster than I am getting richer luls :D
@Personneouverte8 жыл бұрын
39k Dps on essence drain, Damn son, it's high !!
@avant798 жыл бұрын
how? im level 80 and i deal 5k damage? :C
@Alex.LeJeune8 жыл бұрын
I have a mirrored spell wand, but a 5 link, so i have 20k dps, fml
@irrelevant128 жыл бұрын
why streamers make up stuff like "this is budget friendly,,, chest is only 2 exalts, and you don´t need this chest.." then why are you using it. you just said 2 mins ago that damage wasnt good enough in the previous version without skin of the loyal so you had to change the build, So basically you tell everyone they don´t need it but you do because you are special ... so special you had to rebuild the whole character to meet your spectation.
@VoidshrineGaming8 жыл бұрын
benkeiaa kant you can use tabula rasa for just 20 chaos
@EdinHasic8 жыл бұрын
Malediction...I feel oppressed
@siddharthbhonsle95148 жыл бұрын
No
@denmadarbiev28858 жыл бұрын
All of those SS SSSSS SSSSS have to be fixed... please...
@gracesinclair94428 жыл бұрын
10k es without an es chest, nice game LUL
@Grandninga8 жыл бұрын
Hey liftingnerd if you see this, can you explain how to get a higher tooltip dps on essence drain? here's my character. www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/nouyu/characters MetaStuffing. My current drain damage is 27k.
@chelejose218 жыл бұрын
With skin of the loyal, lvl 21 ED and lvl 3 empower, he ends up getting a lvl 26 ED so that's where most damage comes from. Otherwise you would need a lvl 4 empower and lvl 21 ED to get close to that damage without skin of the loyal
@chelejose218 жыл бұрын
skin of the loyal 3G2B1R is fairly cheap atm, and you can get an empower lvl 3 for about 10c. Other than that quality on ED is really nice also, at +20% qual you get +20% inc. chaos damage on ED gem.
@Xeratas8 жыл бұрын
ED is one of the most boring spells i can imagin to play
@LiftingNerdBro8 жыл бұрын
Try acutally "trying" it, rather than imagining it. Essence drain especially feels very different to play rather than to just observe or look at :)
@adamwins35838 жыл бұрын
This. Just started playing ED and it's my first time playing CI am lvl 80 the skill is lots of fun and very good to play. Try it and u would wish u have started playing it earlier Xeratas.