Pathfinder:Kingmaker - Bite Trip Vivisectionist

[@MrJasper609]

ViVisectionist_monk_tripper: bitey mctripperson - lawfull good Thiefling(Motherless'for bite attack'):13str 16dex 10con 13int 16wis 12cha 1:Alchemist-vivisectionist:weapon finnesse,spels(shield,reduce person,expedius retreat,true strike) 2:traditional monk:combat reflexes 3:vivisectionist:combat expertise+ (fast stealth or feral mutagen) 4:vivisectionist:+dex enlarge person 5:vivisectionist: (feral mutagen or fast steath),trip,reist energy 6:vivisectionist:barkskin 7:vivisectionist:blind fight,feral wings,delay poison 8:vivisectionist:+int heroism 9:vivisectionist:greater trip,fury's fall,displacement 10:vivisectionist:prot from energy 11:vivisectionist:pummeling style,hammer the gap,greater invisibility 12:vivisectionist:+int,displacement 13:vivisectionist:pummeling bully,greater mutagen,elemental body 14:vivisectionist:spell resistance 15:vivisectionist:improved blind fight,greater blind fight,stoneskin 16:vivisectionist:+int,restoration 17:vivisectionist:improved critycal unarmed,grand mutagen,transformation

[@MrJasper609]

Vivisectionist + infusion is the only class in pathfinder that can buff others with [personal] spells like: shield and false life so if you want to go for a team buffing build instead of furys fall at level 9 put in infusion so you can buff your 2 handed barbarian with shield false life and stoneskin

[@ArcaneAgent]

Yeah, infuse dragonkind 1 or Transformation over onto your level 17 mad dog barbarians wolf

[@matingly23]

@@MrJasper609 Do you have to be a Vivi though? Don't all Alchemists get discoveries and the choice to take infusion?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Viv get good sneak attackssss

[@ArcaneAgent]

Vivisecrionist gets you feral mutagen and feral wings which gives you the bite and more defense

[@jand.4737]

an Earth based Kineticist can use the bowling infusion to knock enemies prone on an auto attack. Add cleave for more prone stuff. there are feats to add dexterity to the trip, and then you add your con to the modifier instead of the basic strength.

[@xxdeathtollxx]

I've watched all these builds, and it's making me want to play so badly. But i still have awhile in Afghanistan. As soon as I get home I'm building me a new pc and immediately picking this game up. Now to decided which build to play.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I just built 2 more pcs for our church live streaming and our church's multi purpose room. Too bad kingmaker doesnt have multiplayer

[@xxdeathtollxx]

@@ArcaneAgent one feature I love that DoS2 has that I wish more crpgs had. Last pc I built was almost 10 years ago. So this upgraded has been needed.

[@DaftSneak]

By the time you get back, you ll get a better patched/improved game as well with less bugs. April is the final month for DLC and patch 1.3 is coming out probably next week. Which fixes alot of bugs and improves the game, mid to late april for the final DLC. Think of it as positive treat :)

[@xxdeathtollxx]

@@DaftSneak sweet, being buggy is one of the most common negative things I've heard, but that it's gotten alot better. Sometimes it pays to not have a game right away. My memory of it wont be filled with terrible bugs.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I cant wait for endless dungeons

[@ThorDog81]

I would enjoy watching this playthrough if you plan on recording it.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I'm considering a lets play type video series, think Netflix episodes

[@afrosamurai3847]

I thought unarmed fighting styles didn't apply to natural weapons unless you had feral weapon training, something not in the base game?

[@Woergler86]

They fixed it now... Stacking bites it's not possible anymore

[@ArcaneAgent]

@Woergler86 yeah a lot of ideas and builds get nerfed

[@leevothas]

If you planning to play solo in unfair mode and go melee, make sure that you could collect at least AC55+, touch AC 35+, attack 40+, all saves 25+ (30+ prefereable), HP around 300 and have solid abilities to heal youself. All these plants, manticores, hydras are easy targets... you could kill them without buffs at all. Wild hunt gives lots of pain.

[@leevothas]

In the room you could find 5-10 wild hunts and majority of them touching (ranged) with crystal ability with 19-20+ attack bonus. Take in consideration flat-footed and stuff like that.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I don't usually focus my builds on Power Gaming, and trying to play on Unfair Legendary Death Kill Fire Hell Satan mode. I focus my builds on fun, and what makes me a happy person. I also like to step out side and look at the sky. Daily I hug my wife and kids and tell them how important they are to me.

[@leevothas]

@@ArcaneAgent Yes, I do understand the need to be a happy person and give joy to others (for my opinion it's main purpose of life). I'm missing the suny days, but they are comming back after a winter. I have many years of expierence in tabletop RPGs: DnD, World of Darkness, Dark Heresy... Power play had happened naturally by building Ecclesitheurge of Gozerath 3/Abjuration Wizard 7/Mystic Theurge 10.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I'm currently running a druid wizard mystic theurge through the campaign

[@leevothas]

@@ArcaneAgent I had chosen the spontaneous healing instead of spontaneous nature's allys. You can't summon utilities monsters anyway. You can't apply most of the buffs to the summons and even if you have augmented ones, they can't withstand harsh beating by cc spells your are putted on the battlefield and attacks of npc monsters.

[@MrValentineGhost]

I'd love to see a keneticist of some type. Interested in what you would mix that with c:

[@ArcaneAgent]

I'm working on a kineticist Build this week

[@MrValentineGhost]

@@ArcaneAgent ooooh mad hype, big thanks x3

[@ArcaneAgent]

Such hype.

[@konstantins.7082]

Of all the backgrounds of Thiefling, the motherless is the most disturbing for me... I would really like to know if this always has to be the case? Description really does sound absolute.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I think I took motherless for the bite

[@Edmontonoilers4life1]

can this be a tank?

[@ArcaneAgent]

I believe anything can be a tank

[@bigb1078]

Eccellent build. Do you play pathfinder the tabletop RPG?

[@ArcaneAgent]

I do not. Ive never rolled a d20... Ive been a crpg player since December 21st 1998

[@Kaynos]

It's Laughful Good actually ;p

[@BigG_Michael]

Im level 5 with this build and weapon finnesse does not work with my claw and bite attacks. It still adds streangth. I guess i need to respec and go full STR build with dip into dragon diciple for extra bite.

[@Debbin1000]

weapon finesse only lets you use dex to attack rolls, not damage rolls

[@Jonnecy]

great build, loving it! keep up the good work! how about a challenge: a STR based, heavy armor wearing melee build, no summons, that has potential für solo play;)

[@ArcaneAgent]

I like it

[@jacobjohnson8455]

how are your starting stats soo high? i run out of points before i can get the same stats

[@ArcaneAgent]

Are you using a Merc or a main character

[@jacobjohnson8455]

@@ArcaneAgent i was using a merc

[@jacobjohnson8455]

@@ArcaneAgent i see what happened i didnt realize mercs had lower stats, thank you

[@ArcaneAgent]

It's ok. I get this question 7 times a day hrhe

[@pjsstream5418]

I still play it bc I'm good unlike some people

[@ArcaneAgent]

You just wont graduate to a better game like Apex because you sunk so much cash into a free to play game

[@pjsstream5418]

I tried Apex but its bad

[@ArcaneAgent]

Apex is amazing, youre just bad at it

[@bigb1078]

I never liked the vivisectionist cause of the story of them buy man it is a powerful class.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Yeah they are rather broken

[@holymaryfullofshit3790]

is that cloak there when you first explore the bridge or do you find it in a later event?

[@ArcaneAgent]

I believe it was when I first visited the bridge early on

[@holymaryfullofshit3790]

@@ArcaneAgent hmm maybe i need to revisit or its only there with the expansion set. thanks for replying. your videos are good stuff. im using a just a bit changed version of your arcane trickster right now. works great.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I've considered using an arcane trickster as a let's play

[@holymaryfullofshit3790]

@@ArcaneAgent takes a while to take off. i play a fighter/monk/duellist as main character. works great ac through the roof. but definitly would be fun. have you considerd going magus for the spells and spellsword instead of vanilla mage?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Magus doesnt get the amount of spells I would want and would only get a slower spell progression

[@meffazm]

Just made some testing. Flurry of blows doesn't work with natural weapons (i.e. claws), however bites from teifling and feral mutagen stack. For Flurry being relevant in this build you require feat called "Feral Combat Training", which is not currently ingame. So, you basically have 4 attacks at level 3(or 5 if you like stealth :) ) with this build: 2 claw attack and 2 bites. Claws have the same damage as unarmed strike of level 1-3 monk. However there is one advantage - claws are bludgeoning/pierce, if I remember correctly, apart from fists which are bludgeoning only. Anyways, good job, thanks for the great build. UPD. And the last 3 levels should be taken as Rogue probably. Finesse Training, so you can free your neck slot from Amulet of Agile Fists. UPD2. It turned out that claws and bites are separate things in terms of Finesse Training, so u have to pick both amulet for claws AND rogue 3 lvl Finesse Training (Bite), in order to apply your DEX modifier to all attacks. UPD3. If you totally don't care about your DEX modifier for dmg you can go 1 lvl sorc/bard/magus and 2 levels of Dragon Disciple for 3rd bite, lol. Dunno if it stacks or not however. Or you can pick scaled fist monk instead of traditional one in the beginning, gimp Wisdom for Charisma (roleplay purposes included), and dip into paladin for 2 levels, trading WILL saves for ALL Saves from pal's passive. It's kind of more defensive option. Also, you will be more cute. Cute little biter. :3

[@cameronb851]

Yes, I was wondering about this. For Flurry to work it needs bare hands or a single Monk weapon in your main hand, or a staff. Claws count as a separate, non Monk weapon and they occupy both hands, however you can still use Flurry with the extra bite (for the extra trip functionality) of the Feral Mutagen, by using a one handed Monk weapon, which negates the claws, but maintains the bite and Flurry functionality. Additionally, the Monk weapon, Sai, is classed as a dagger, so with one level of Rogue/Knife Master, you get Weapon Finesse for free, and you upgrade the Sai's damage sneak damage to 1D8 for every sneak dice you have, and you don't lose your sneak dice progression.

[@grilledleeks6514]

I mean... I was already playing your last build. But the concept of a mileena mouthed monk that takes people to the ground and eats them AND is a good guy is kind of top.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Its good to eat people, saves the animals

[@brothermutant7370]

Good catch on the Traditional Monk. Most people don't know that difference to the Saves.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Sometimes I get stuff right

[@Edmontonoilers4life1]

Do you just stay unarmed the whole time?

[@ArcaneAgent]

You definitely can. I've made a sorc tank the whole game

[@ionicafardefrica]

hey just an idea, does Beast Shape stack with the natural bite and claw attacks you already have? Or it just replaces them?

[@ArcaneAgent]

I havent tested it, it might replace them I am not sure

[@grilledleeks6514]

Common sense would say it replaces it, since your racial mouth bite is transforming into a snout. But if that means the game mechanics line up with common sense, who knows

[@YoruLemuri1337]

I'm new to this game so I don't have much knowledge. I've watched a lot of your builds to decide which one to use and I like this one the most. But I desperately want to use the human race for my first playthrough :/ can this work with a human race?

[@ArcaneAgent]

It would work, but the tiefling heritage in this build gives you a constant extra bite attack in melee

[@neutralus3035]

I found a prelim build for a shifter attacker. Been experimenting. Build this just to see it. Stupidly I chose a halfling but it still worked. Start stats - str 15, dex 12, con 10, int 14, wis 10-12, and cha -whatevers left. lvl 1 - Sorc - Dragon discipline - any lvl 2 - vivisectionist lvl 3 - Defender of the true World (Druid) Keep going on Druid until you get 5 arcane. Next four levels Dragon Disciple for the two str buffs and a breath attack. Shift back to druid until lvl 14 total. I used the mutigen, and then shifted to a bear. I had 30 str wearing nothing as a halfling at lvl 14. Plus I had a companion and could cast while shifted into a bear. And I could use the dragons breath weapon as a bear. And all that above isn't even optimized on race or stats. What can you do with it? I am so looking forward to starting a fresh full game and trying to build something with these classes. I think I may try a magus level instead of sorc though and something other than a halfling. This quick build was sick on str. My AC was only 20 with nothing on but I know I can do better if optimized.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I'm planning a lets play series. Not sure what build I'm gonna use yet

[@halfvampire2]

Does the game actually let you stack similar attacks? Like can you have 2 bite attacks, one from tiefling and one from feral mutagen? In the PnP game, you cannot do this, nor can you flurry AND use natural attacks without a really niche feat.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Seems to work here. A lot of things work in this game that don't work in the PnP. Rogues getting multiple combat trick feats for one

[@stevenlancaster2606]

Has anyone played this build yet for a good amount of gameplay? If so, wondering if it's like a one trick pony( need all those buffs for fighting) or works with some of them and all? I don't walk around stealth alot and all

[@ArcaneAgent]

Ive played it quite a bit. Solo it's still pretty darn reliable. Give him as many bracers of armor, deflection rings as you can

[@jakefrost7404]

Jace Beleran (The original subject of your character's portrait) portrayed as a razortoothed, cannibalistic goody two-shoes is certainly a puzzling mental image. Considering his story so far, though, such as his having the hots for a gorgon assassin, I suppose it might fit. ^_^

[@ArcaneAgent]

I try

[@drbelanger73]

So, I subscribed. Then I decided to join. Is there some general chat or contact point?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Oh snap you be on that membership plan. Dang. I need to refund that, I honestly do more on twitch than KZbin. Let me see how I can disable membership on yt, and refund ya

[@MuppetLord1]

With how easy it is to get a +4 INT or all mental scores is it really nessesary to put that much into INT? :)

[@ArcaneAgent]

Probably not, but you would be sacrificing an item slot or item property to achieve it. In all of my plans or plays through any game, I dont like being gear dependent. "Wow I really like this new +5 composite longbow of acid, but I need to keep this +1 shortbow with +4 INT on it"

[@cdgammer]

Nice build, im actually building the same but with some differences stat wise to start. 12 Str, 17 Dex, 10 Con, 13 Int, 15 Wis, 12 Cha. Plus at level 4 i will have 2 vivisectionist 2 monk, meaning i will behind 1 level of vivi to get 1 feat more plus evasion. Now here an interesting question. at level 1 you had 13 int but at level 10 you have 16 int witch is not possible since at level 4 u put 1 point into dex and 1 point into int at 8. 13+1=14 not 16

[@ArcaneAgent]

I put on a +2 int helm

[@cdgammer]

@@ArcaneAgent I see i didnt notice you had a helm on or anything like that when you where talking about the cloak

[@mauricionavarro8224]

In this game can you do a build center in a one element? like a build of just lightning damage? is my favorite damage in game whit it ;) jejeje xD nice video bro

[@ArcaneAgent]

Sure, you could select lightning only spells if you wanted to. But there are more fire spells than any other element

[@mauricionavarro8224]

@@ArcaneAgent oh ok! ;) can you do one (if you can) and make it viable? or one whit just fire. Thnx bro

[@ArcaneAgent]

Lemme check out how many lightning spells are in the game first, but I am working on a DC sorcerer at the moment

[@mauricionavarro8224]

@@ArcaneAgent Cool!!! you rock bro ;)

[@brothermutant7370]

you could go for a Sorcerer or Eldritch Scion (Magus sub-class) build that has one of the ELEMENTAL forms as their background/heritage or whatever its called. They have a toggle that allows them to turn ANY elemental spell damage into the damage from their element (I.E. fire, cold, acid, or electricity). So you can pick all the fire and ice spells you want and MAKE them do elec damage or acid damage instead. it's thematically very cool.

[@bigb1078]

I have a question about the buffs you cast. You casted greater invisibility then displacement. Unless the creature has see invisibility you will have a 50% miss chance from being invisible. If they have true seeing it will see through both spells. At least that is according to the pen and paper game.

[@ArcaneAgent]

I think I just cast them both as a protection vs 1 dispel attempt ya know?

[@bigb1078]

@@ArcaneAgent yeah, I typed this before the plant monster and when I noticed it had blindsense your choice made sense to me. I forgot about all those senses that see through invisibility.

[@waarhc259]

Hey Liquid, I really like your builds and your videos are nice to follow = sub. On what difficulty should I play these builds? Ty

[@ArcaneAgent]

I personally enjoy playing on normal. I hate saving and reloading every 5 minutes

[@Losero26]

I like your builds. Can you maybe take a look at the companions and make some fun ones for them?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Yeppers

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Do all of the bites stack? Could you do a motherless dragon disciple/berserker/vivisectionist and have 4 bites a turn? Probably start as Monk and just go chaotic on every option to get out of Lawful to be a Barbarian.

[@donjefeleone]

Cool build. I'd love to hear how this goes if you decide to play it through single player.

[@Александрпобережье]

You look like Jeffrey Dean Morgan ....

[@ArcaneAgent]

I've heard that quite a bit...

[@enigmarhh]

Make a muscle wizard build. Dew it

[@ArcaneAgent]

Define muscle wizard

[@d3lsl0w]

Using Jace TMS in your thumbnail? I don't think he bites nor trips... =P

[@pjsstream5418]

What happens to the live streams

[@ArcaneAgent]

What happened to fortnite?

[@TsukadaHina]

@Liquid Plays Can you make a viable Eldritch Archer for a video?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Define viable

[@TsukadaHina]

@@ArcaneAgent A build that doesn't feel like poop but is still an Eldritch Archer.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Sometimes poop feels good though

[@TsukadaHina]

@@ArcaneAgent What did I just read? XD

[@ArcaneAgent]

You ever poop and it feels good to get that poop out

[@pawep2966]

How do you trip automatically?

[@antiwave]

Could you do a Paladin archer build?

[@ArcaneAgent]

I could, I have a lot of builds lined up. And Paladin Archer is one of them.

[@fiskus]

@@ArcaneAgent Any chance for a straight Up paladin ? cant find one anywhere. Woulde love to see a build thats mostly Paladin or even 100% Paladin thats viable and fun.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Maybe 1 level if dipping into another class? Or even 17 Paladin with 3 other levels?

[@southxcomfort228]

What weapons do you use?

[@dreamer5234]

How did you jump from int 13 to 15?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Items or buffs

[@dreamer5234]

@@ArcaneAgent wow, fast reply, thank you. But the problem is that in the video it looks like you started with 15, not 13, not because of items or buffs. At lvl 1 vivi you had 13, at level 2 monk you had 15.

[@ArcaneAgent]

@@dreamer5234 let me look at my video hehe

[@ArcaneAgent]

Ok at 3:28 you can see in the log at the right, that I equipped a "something of intelligence +2" along with a Ring of Protection and Robes of Water and Bracers of Armor

[@dreamer5234]

@@ArcaneAgent Thank you very much for the clarification and the guide! I will play with this build in my next playthrough, looks like a lot of fun.

[@lololrifkomg]

Can we get some insane builds for companions ?

[@mr.grunnson9302]

Tank Inquisitor- mass teamwork

[@pjsstream5418]

Apex is just not 4 me

[@pjsstream5418]

Get on bo4 on ps4

[@MegaAlexPower100]

To be Honast this is an exploit cause in the Tabletop there are some rules to nattural attacks (As a general rule, you cannot stack natural weapon attacks from Source A with other natural weapon attacks from Source B.) copied from the wiki :D I call it an exploit cause its in the tabletop not allowed to make that build it also could be that they patch it out of the game :( but i love the idee of the build :D

[@MegaAlexPower100]

u could make it strengh based and take the monk Dragon style and Dragon Ferocity so u can ad on the first attack 2 times ur strengh and on all other 1,5 times ur strengh moddifier :D

[@denyspysmenniy4298]

He has only two claw attacks, one bite and free trip from cloak... all the other stuff is just his imagination.

[@grilledleeks6514]

@@denyspysmenniy4298 bite from feral and bite from race. But I guess basic observation too hurrrsdddd

[@denyspysmenniy4298]

@@grilledleeks6514 To get second bite attack you need to get second head in the first place.

[@ArcaneAgent]

You leave my imagination alone

[@PlayWithTheViking]

hey bro , i am new to this game and i played it for few hours and i got pissed off and uninstalled it cuz i didnt understand the combat system or what are those states means ( int wis , etc) or which character fit most with those states so if u can make video to explain everything that would help a lot and i want to give this game a chance though

[@ArcaneAgent]

I could do that

[@PlayWithTheViking]

@@ArcaneAgent that will be great thaaaanks , cant find on youtube any tutorial for that