Killing Floor 2 | 8 Years Later.

[@G3arShift]

I made the Halo Mod for KF2 back in 2020. I taught myself how to animate, how to get the animations working in KF2, how to get custom audio working in KF2, how to work around the countless, stupid limitations TWI has put in place on modders, and came out with what I thought was a pretty good product. I'm still very pleased you liked the scope system that I built in the mod so much. But what eventually pushed me off the game entirely was that TWI just doesn't care. They regularly say things like "Submit a thread on the forums so we can track this" when asking about whitelisting, or fixing a bug they've known about for a very long time, but nothing ever happens. They feed platitudes to modders and players alike to just kind of keep a lid on things while they develop their next game, presumably. That coupled with the decline of the overall game balance, classes becoming all bland copies of each other instead of the unique and fun playstyles they were before, team comp no longer mattering, and the game just turning into a boring, repetitive shooter, I just got completely turned off from it. And the worst part? All the community maps they added were, originally, great. But whoever is doing mapping over at TWI doesn't have any idea how to do their job, because they have repeatedly, very effectively, butchered the community maps added to the game. I miss what KF2 used to be, and what it made me want to learn and do. It's a game that will always hold a special place in my heart, but it's fallen very, very hard from grace.

[@jpaul5052]

I remember beta testing them on the kf2 mods discord :P Good times, too bad they faded so quick.

[@chriswizardman6384]

Holy shit , you are that guy ?!

[@ashleystreach3657]

Explain how the classes feel like bland copies of each other?

[@TheSpitefulSword]

Sharpshooter is Gunslinger, but harder, both need to aim at head, sharpshooter lack agility, but does more damage. They both came from KF1 Sharpshooter, who had all pistols and heavy sniper rifles combined. SWAT is tank version of Commando, who has more potential against large zeds Survivalist is a mix of every class. And there was supposed to be Martial Artist... Who has a lot in common with Berserker.

[@2diefor]

All we can hope now is KF3 goes back to the roots of the first game, aka being a uncanny horror survival FPS shooter and not a glorified version of Black Ops 3 Zombies.

[@magonus195]

We had big plans for more mods, but TWI not supporting modders, and continual terrible updates, utterly killed our ambitions.

[@KotoGS]

The decline in content quality wouldn't be as painful if we had some communication - I think that's probably why a lot of people are upset, complaining, and ultimately abandoning KF2. If we knew the drop in quality was due to TWI being busy and developing a third game, I'm sure the community would be a lot more forgiving and understanding, maybe even more inclined to financially support the company but nope. Nothing. Just years of dead silence and the hope that one day, something will be announced. Absolutely love this game, I'll always play and support it but I cannot help thinking that the way they've handled maintaining their players and keeping people interested has been an absolute train wreck. Through the development of KF1 and a large portion of KF2's lifespan, TWI were an extremely unique, responsive and understanding team unlike other developers. They knew their game, knew what was good for it and heard the players out. But damn, it's like one day a switch was flipped and something just suddenly... changed :(

[@PathfinderBoi]

Exactly, no communication, we just got in that 2019 Halloween update: "well we got upcoming changes to monetization. Oh and btw, we won't be doing maps anymore and themed updates are gone. Why you might be asking? Well it's a secret xD" They "were" different from other developers, but idk anymore. I been following them well... from the beginning and 2019 was quite sad. My best understanding is that yes... game runs on UE3 which is dated. So they're just doing the bare minimum to keep the players in without saying, well just wait for KF3. (Hopefully KF3 won't be a disaster)

[@Kackspack0815]

@@PathfinderBoi I somehow doubt that they can replicate the unique KF2 experience. 😐

[@BoonkyEdits]

Despite how the development has gone so far, i still enjoy playing KF2. Like you said: "in it's core the game is still fun". I completely agree with that

[@rustyjames6131]

I still like KF2, but the most fun I ever had in the game was in early access when there were only a few perks and maps.

[@AestheticShrine]

Finally someone who tells it how it is. I've met many players who tell me the game is fine in its current state and they've been playing since EA, only to wonder if they are from a different dimension. But in all seriousness, I hope this year will be a turning point for the game and the extra time TWI/Saber are taking is actually going to make a difference. We can only hope my friends...

[@mathewhosier9739]

I think you have been so spoiled by this game your blind to how good you have it, how many other fps games do you know that have released this much free content so long after launch? This game is in the minority of games that recieve this much love, are you ppl seriously still complaining about paid dlc in 2022?? Wake up, this game is amazing and has had the most post launch support of any game I personally play, tripwire went above and beyond most of the industry with this title

[@AestheticShrine]

@@mathewhosier9739 I got access to an early build of the game when it was released from early access (I started playing in 2017). It was night and day pal.

[@DataStream3]

This game got me through some dark times in 2018. I was a teenager and didn't have a lot of hope in the world. I'd come home from a depressing day at school, fire up KF2, and just blow up some zeds. I remember pretending the zeds were my problems and just killing them as quick as i could out of anger. I don't know where i'd be today if i didn't have that avenue of releasing stress. Life's good now, so I gotta hand it up to Tripwire. The game may be in a rough state, but it will always hold a special place in my heart for everything it helped get me through. GG KF2 and I hope one day we'll get KF3.

[@adrianmastrangelo4214]

Same here bro

[@ps4games164]

Duuude...

[@DarrenHoussein]

That seems cool. I'm gonna visualise some zeds as my problems and then proceed to obliterate them and see if it helps at all

[@KUPSMusic]

Love how you are playing the Dungeon defender map as I started to replay that game recently

[@PathfinderBoi]

Ye, haven't played this custom map in a while, it's also one of my favorites because it looks so cool

[@joaodavid1369]

I cant believe its been already 8 years (so basicly 4 years of me watching your yt channel) it feels like it was yesterday

[@PathfinderBoi]

Yeah when I was making the video I was like, ha... 8 years :O

[@drunkhusband6257]

It's 6 years, I don't think he knows how to count lol

[@JayizNOTimmrtal]

I still fucking love this game. It’s like Black Ops 2 zombies on steroids

[@bobtheoofnoob]

I can't believe it's 8 years already, the graphic and gameplay still hold up.

[@Nuck82]

I started played KF2 late 2019 before the Christmas update. Loved the game because it's a large party game and I play online with 6 buddies. And it was perfect for us. I hope KF3 does Happen and it brings the game back to the glory days.

[@mathewhosier9739]

The game is in it's glory days, you spoiled and entitled brats just don't realize it, how much free dlc did tripwire release post launch? Yea, a ton

[@nightmarepotato5000]

@@mathewhosier9739 Hoes mad, keep coping Saber boy

[@ConnorTheDJ24]

Killing Floor 2 was fun while it lasted and it's last good update was Summer of 2019.

[@ayestevv]

Man I miss the prime Kf2 it was so fun bruh

[@MrHoxworth]

I stopped playing after the paid weapons update and I'm a PAYDAY 2 player I have no problems spending 5$ on a weapon pack but 10$ for a single f-ing weapon is beyond ridiculus

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

This game is STILL loads of fun. Not many good Team PvE games outthere. The formula of the game is simple but effective. I never pay anything to unlock crates or anything but just recycle everything for craftable items. Simply because i'm oldschool and think microtransactions are stupid. The level design of this game is soo incredibly gorgeous and creative. And you can basically instantly play it for a while without having to mind anything. Sure at first you are struggling a bit when your perk classes are all low level but once you are above level 10 and have some perks unlocked, things are a lot more fun. It's great when more experienced players help you out with some Dosh too. So this game reminds me a lot of my early days of online multiplayer gaming. When things were a lot more chill and a lot less toxic and poisoned.

[@elcuervocuervo]

can´t agree more with you path...

[@Vronize]

Watching the video hurt me, i cant imagine how it hurt Pathfinder when he was recording this video... The KF2 we love faded away

[@PathfinderBoi]

What hurt me more was how much time this took to make

[@DataStream3]

@@PathfinderBoi lol.

[@mathewhosier9739]

For me it only got better, I think you ppl are blinded by all the free content we actually did get, how many other fps games release this much free content post launch and this long after launch? Kf2 Is in the minority of games that have this much free dlc, and if your really complaining about paid dlc in 2022? Seriously? The developers have to eat too, how about you support the devs for the games you enjoy instead of being an entitled brat

[@jpaul5052]

Watching this and remembering all of this, just made me feel old. Thanks Boi, your homie Accu.

[@shark20069]

Man, I remember coming home to play this game everyday with my friends during simpler times

[@RasDilaua]

Killing floor 2 more like Killing the fun of the game. (The game is fun until they put weapons Microtransactions in game store..) And then few years later, 2021. They release Armory Season Pass DLC... Thank you, Tripwire.

[@callmekevgou4636]

the only thing that make me still playing this game, it's because the quality of life, gore, smooth animation they made to this game. i don't really much care about the content, but still they make this game really good for exactly slaying zombies game.

[@iDaCarrot115]

Killing Floor 2 is a game that I love to play and go back to for a few weeks every couple of months and I'm just happy to see that they're still pushing updates for it.

[@amoraalama1197]

Wow a trip down memory lane, let me make popcorn real quick.

[@quinnbear5647]

Honestly I wish I knew more about kf2 when it was in its prime. I told some of my friends about this game about a year ago, and we find it enjoyable but I feel like it would be better if the updates and stuff were more consistent. Oh well this game is at the end of its cycle like every other game, hopefully we can get a kf3 or some actual updates. I would hate to see this game/franchise fully die out.

[@0zone247]

it's already almost a decade? fk me im old. I still remember playing the old UT2004 KF1.0 - KF2.5 mods many years ago. Those were the horrifyingly greatest time of Killing Floor

[@SynthLizard8]

I became a hardcore killing floor 2 fan straight from Early Access being that I also played a lot of KF1 when it was old even back then and for the most part I loved KF2, found it quite invigorating and played it religiously, even loving the new cosmetics, weapons and maps. I even didn't mind the the new enemies soo much, I think the Abomination was gross and awesome as well as new additions like the money vault and xp challenges but it slowly began to gradually slide downhill; you have enemies like Rioters that wear this ridiculous metal armor that makes them look like from a fantasy game, they destroyed the weapon balance by nerfing and making them reliant on boring, exuberantly taxed upgrades the EDAR's which are no fun to fight and ruin the combat flow and so on but then I finally hit my tolerance threshold of the amount of crap I was willing to put up with. They went back on their promise of cosmetic-only purchases, now instead they charge $10 for 1 gun and 4 weapon skins with it and these pitiful HRG reskins of already implemented weapons in place of the free weapons, at that point I finally walked away and it pains me soo much of how much of a bastardization not just the game has turned in to.

[@BlueberryWolffles]

I think a big problem of KF2 was that it didn't really evolve the gameplay of KF. There's little to no incentive to play the game; beating bosses didn't offer anything other than extra xp and objective mode was just stand here, or go here and press/hold E. Beyond shooting zeds, there's nothing else to do. Payday and left 4 dead offer real objectives to complete, and show how laughably bad KF2's are. For a game where the devs boasted about their gore mechanics, it still only features decapitations. No ability to shoot off limbs/weapons. Even left 4 dead 2 in 2009 had this. I also find a lot of the classes to be same-y. Like, Commando, gunslinger, sharpshooter, medic, swat, support (and technically survivalist) use weapons that fire bullets. That's 7/10 classes. The creation of new classes didn't really add anything because some of these are so similar they might as well have been one class. Not adding weapon modding because they didn't want to balance it and giving us just a weapon upgrade button was a terrible decision. The creation of HRG weapons shows just how lazy the devs got, that they couldn't be bothered to make a new design and just reskinned existing weapons. Dosh vault money that can't be spent on anything, so what's the point of getting it? Why not give us the ability to buy skins with dosh? Because money. While I agree that the new weapons coming out for the earlier updates where fun to try out, I don't think the game ever really took a step towards growing up with its players

[@bluebear1818]

Only decapitations? I dont think you play berserker. I have split bosses, scrakes, fleshpounds, you name it, down the middle, into bits, in half. Not only just decapitations. And yes i know im just some idiot on the internet. :)

[@BlueberryWolffles]

@@bluebear1818 I'll be a bit more clear, you can't delimb nor shoot a weapon out of a zeds hand's without them dying. Imagine being able to shoot off both a fleshpound;s arms and have him still try to attack you, or to chop off one of hans' arms and have him become enraged

[@justgamingentertainment]

9:56 Yes definitely Garry Brusly

[@adrianmastrangelo4214]

I disagree with the idea that Ashwood Asylum was the beginning of the downfall of KF2. Ashwood is an awesome map that I would dare classify as classic. The decline started with the lacking Christmas themed updates. Sanitarium seemed like it was supposed to originally release with Ashwood as it clearly has the appearance of a Halloween styled map. Spillway is another great map that will go down as a classic if not already. The spring update was my favorite as i loved the cyberpunk theme and cosmetics. Imo, the last decent map added was Elysium. Albeit It started off rocky with no ammo and also no Xmas theme but after it was updated it was at least playable. It received a bad rep at first and it was surely not well received as an Xmas event map but on It's own it is a pretty decent map. I like how it makes a team have to play more strategical when the map switches every other round and how each map within it can be played in different styles whether running and gunning or holding out. The map may seem lacking in substance but it does make you think about how to approach different locations besides the main area. Since then the map has become a favorite of mine. KF2 has declined and lost players for a number of reasons including perk rebalances, copy & pasted weapons, unbalanced Vs mode, random bundled loot crates, weapon nerfs, smaller and cluttered map releases, and the fact that there are so many other amazing single and multiplayer titles that KF2 simply cannot compare against. I'm just stating topics of reasons why KF2 players have left and I'm not asserting a stance on one side vs the other but I will say certain changes i believe were justified such as the Zerk Nerf but other people didn't like it. The game had it's time though. It had a decent run but it failed to expand further upon itself in larger ways and instead updates became monotonous and all the same as mentioned in the video. The game became hyper focused around store sales with cosmetics, weapons, characters, bundles, and crates. It had to make money somehow so i can't blame them for trying to keep it afloat but it's been on a downward trend for a couple years now. Although not many players reminisce over Airship, the Summer Sideshow Event gave KF2 it's highest player count and it's because the game was free on PlayStation at the time. Santa's Workshop however was peak KF2. We will never see a map like that again. The detail and effort put into every inch of that map was something wholeheartedly special for the community. I'm happy to have experienced KF2 when it was in it's prime.

[@PathfinderBoi]

It wasn't the ashwood map... It was the entire update. They made the switch to paid weapons and HRG reskins in that update.

[@-dmm]

Im surprised they still haven't made the game f2p. This would be the best option they can do and make it available on gamepass. This would bring in so many new players and the game literally lives off skins. THere's so much content and skins you can purchase and knowing people they will buy all those rgb skins. I do believe the content has been stale on KF2 because they did hint long time ago about a new KF game and might have crossplay or something. I do hope they make the new KF free to play and allow custom maps on console. I believe the secret ingredient for having a game that lasts with a community is having the workshop, allowing the workshop to work with console players, and having active developers implementing official content on top of the the community content. L4D and Garrys mod and Terraria and Sometimes Call of duty on PC keeps big active players because of this. I grew up on KF by getting a pirated copy and playing off Hamachi with people hosting the game. And then officially getting the game from my parents and kf2 I ended up going to console. I know this game can be big. I have high high hopes for KF3

[@hugopetit7860]

Pathfinder : always says shit about kf2 Also pathfinder : makes 80% of content out of this game

[@PathfinderBoi]

I give them credit for good stuff, I only talk shit about stuff I think the game doesn't benefit from. HRG, DLC, community maps with no theme whatsoever. So yeah pretty much the last couple of years

[@jpaul5052]

Personally, I run servers for the game and still don't play it for the most part. Just because the game went down the wrong road, in my opinion, doesn't mean that I don't have sentimental value for it and a good group of friends that I've met due to the game over the many years.

[@DjAzmoCN]

updates and events to date means the game continues to bring in good profits. It is still played daily and regularly by fans who have upgraded each class to prestige 5 (and have nothing left to do), among others there are many gamers who are new to the game. Not to be forgotten are the forums on Steam, among others, where the topic of KF3 is heavily discussed. So a very public question to Tripwire Interactive, what speaks against it for a killing floor 3? There are a lot of people who are eagerly waiting for it.

[@Vulkans]

I played KF2 up until the robots, that was my line in the sand.

[@ghostly8846]

My first time playing Kf2 was back in 2017. Man, time goes fast. Guud game.

[@poopeater4111]

Same bro

[@theafflictionvhs17]

I feel like “Missed Opportunities” is the story of KF2’s life. Yet, I still absolutely love it. The maps, guns, Zed, & the overall aesthetic of the the game was so good. Also: R.I.P. the original KF2 main menu theme :(

[@Chenar-gu4jw]

before playing kf2, I was watching your kf2 vids and gameplay, because of that it hyped me up, I talk to a friend of mine and we both decided to play kf2 together, it came for free-to-keep week in epic games store, so we immediately played it, it was so much fun, I think after 4 months or between that time, he gave up, but I still continued to play, it was fun to me, that time I played kf2 on epic, it was hard to find players online to play with, so I gave up that time too, so much time passed and I bought kf2 steam version, I hyped myself up 'cuz I told myself "I can download items and maps from workshop", and now, for some reason I don't play it at all, but still didn't uninstalled it 'cuz I wanna play with a streamer, it's fun still, though I taught myself to talk very less, but still...., DAMN WHY I CANT SAY IT???? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, anyway that was a good video, and we will see your vids in another video, adios.

[@doggoboggo3140]

I love you path man I’ve been here for so long and I’m so happy for how far you’ve come ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@47RoninGaming]

Was an adventure

[@PathfinderBoi]

For sure

[@SkitterMcBoo]

I came into this video thinking I was gonna feel nostalgic about Killing Floor but now I’m more nostalgic about Dungeon Defenders lol. Love ya papa Pathfinder.

[@AlastorNightheart]

I like rewatching this video.

[@G-Realla]

Can’t believe paths journey started on my 17th birthday makes me feel old

[@ex2soul]

i just wish they would remaster killing floor 1. it had the best community of any game i have ever played. i still to this day think it is more fun than kf2

[@Jmod8]

HRG weapons genuinely make me mad. They just clutter the menus and make the game feel cheap. I wonder if there’s a mod that gets rid of them.

[@thewhatwhat12333]

the dungeon defender models tho

[@pooshrulez]

Game Conductor hasn't been removed, at least fully. When soloing HoE, I'm taking damage in wave 1 on purpose - to make Game Conductor think that I'm doing bad. Otherwise, it may spawn a 2FP+4QP squad in wave2.

[@zzurge1173]

You know killing floor one has a community, that while reduced in size,still pumps out mods weekly,it's a shame to see KF2 die off so much sooner...

[@Maximus_Smore]

Love your acent. Can't wait for Kf3

[@Fl1ppy13]

My final mission in this game, is maxing all my perks to lvl 25 and prestige 5... I'm now currently in prestige 4 in all of my perks.... after that it's either i will bid farewell or continue depending on what the future updates will be... but still I really loved this game and has a special place in my gamer heart

[@onlytrickzzy7506]

Nice Dungeon Defenders map you was playing POG

[@wanpokke]

Anyone remember the inventory bug where a lot of people had the DLC weapons and skins despite not buying them? TWI said they've rolled it back but I still have mine available lmao

[@PathfinderBoi]

Don't think they care too much xD

[@AestheticShrine]

I know this is old, but this explains how I got the Horzine Elite Suit and Pistol skins without buying them. I thought it was because I bought the Digital Deluxe Edition (this was back in 2017), so I didn't think much about it.

[@wanpokke]

@@AestheticShrine horzine suit and pistol came free IIRC

[@AestheticShrine]

@@wanpokke The Killing Floor Wiki says it was a preorder bonus for those who played and bought the game during Early Acces. But I bought the game in 2017, soo.... ech. Not complaining, just surprised it was because of a bug all along lol

[@supergremlintripleseven6790]

I used to absolutely love KF2 since I first played it in early access. I loved KF1 so much that even back then I knew they had a lot planned for it, with the perks and weapons we all grew to love in the first KF plus some new stuff as well. And it was good. This video hits the nail right on the head, timeline wise, about the rise and fall of KF2. I have to say 2018 was KF2 at it's best (Monster Ball, imo, still the best Halloween themed KF map). Then... It seems like Tripwire lost their way. Every update after the Christmas event felt rather... soulless. As if lacking the spirit that was found in previous updates and just more cash grabs which was what ruined it for me. It became clear Tripwire were going through the motions after that and it wasn't the same.

[@mathewhosier9739]

I think your a spoiled brat that doesn't realize how good you had it, how much free content did they release post launch? Yea, a lot, we are lucky all the post launch content wasn't paid dlc, because that is the norm, kf2 is in the minority of games that have this much free content post launch

[@theamericanbadger6008]

A great, wonderful game. I remember getting out of school to play this game everyday. It was such a fun time, me and my close friend spent hundreds of hours just grinding and shooting up zeds. It was an amazing time, the game was getting content rapidly and kept the community alive for a while which is honestly crazy. Most games die in a span of a year or two, this game had a strong community for I wanna say four years since I played on Xbox One. Now? It’s in a sad place, the game is currently running on fumes. The community has long abandoned the game and moved onto other things, regardless, I still play it every few months. Nothing really has the same satisfying gun play and co-op experience. Killing Floor 2, thank you for hundreds of hours wasted and a ton of fun had. I hope one day, this game will have its final DLC as a nice Big Bang for the send off till if a third game is made in the future.

[@pnowy1146]

see the guns werent worth $20, but after 2019 they quality of the dlc guns started DROPPING, its clear if you compare the glock and shield against the suppressed glock, the suppressed one looks much worse. They already weren't worth it, but then they just kept getting worse

[@flashn00b]

Oh yeah, another thing I forgot to mention when mentioning less work being done on Killing Floor 2. On top of Saber Interactive working on a new game, they're also working with CD Projekt RED regarding an enhanced edition of The Witcher 3 that includes CP2077's engine updates

[@Matheus-wy4vn]

that's good stuff right there

[@Syrhunter1]

I played the snot out of KF1 back in the day on a variety of community maps with objective mode, custom zeds/perks you name it. I still do from time to time, the SCRN mod pack (or whatever the hell its called) has brought some fun doom stuff into KF1 for me to enjoy. I love KF2, but I've grown frustrated with it. KF2 has some custom maps, but it somehow feels like less. Last time I touched it I kept getting version mismatch errors I couldn't resolve so I threw in the towel. I kept running into issues with the abom boss flying out of stock maps, the vault/inventory servers disconnecting, or weekly mechanics just feeling under baked. Even if I didn't think about the 10$ DLC, or how little I liked the EDARs (I didnt find a way to mod em out either) I couldn't shake the thought that TWI was throwing paint on a janky game that couldn't reliably be extended. The little they had added after 2019 seemed to be either in bad taste, or just under polished. Objective mode feels under developed and repetitive, and vs mode was always dead. Before trader skipping, endless mode was depressing. The changes made to community maps before being integrated as stock maps are atrocious too. It shows that the game was handed to another developer to keep the gravy train rolling but who knows if we're getting a KF3 out of it since it's in live service mode. Some of the animations on the new weapons from the new studio are a little less polished than the rest too. The weapons feel great, so it sucks to see such a compromise with new or even DLC weapons but I fear it's the mark of a trend to come.

[@alexander2019.]

Damn has it really been 8 years? Time is flying by

[@mathewhosier9739]

Only 6, kf2 launched in 2016, it's 2022, that's 6 years buddy

[@ps4games164]

Yes, man. Holly shit.

[@survivaljournalist8314]

I still play this game to this day with my brother. It's fun to come home from work and mellow out to the sweet sweet metal music and destruction of Zeds.

[@puggyr650]

yo does anyone know what map the background gameplay is on? it looks open and fun thx

[@antiz9648]

There should more videos like these for people that come back to games so that they don't have to watch a bunch of videos. Great video man👍

[@PathfinderBoi]

Glad you found it useful man!

[@StokedPhilosophy]

It makes you wonder. Where is killing floor 3????

[@gangatalishis]

honestly the fact that it lasted 8 years is pretty incredible.

[@Dustparticle000]

Best zombie shooter to date! & Still going strong!💙💪

[@danielnascimento9259]

Nice video my friend 👏

[@Boxie674]

If you could add or change one thing about killing floor 2 what would it be?

[@PathfinderBoi]

just 1 thing, alright, I'd bring back the 2018 style of updates.

[@Boxie674]

@@PathfinderBoi Omg I got replied by Pathfinder, this is better than when I won my first Hell On Earth

[@PathfinderBoi]

@@Boxie674 Ey you get a heart as well

[@Zargex]

The game i return to play every year since 2015

[@onceuponatimeonearth]

KF2 still has one single idle animation for all characters and it bothers me unreasonably much to see them all do the same exact macho knuckle cracking

[@ijustbevibin0425]

If the game was cheaper or free to play there would be a shit ton more people playing

[@Delimon007]

2017 and 2018 were sooo good. But then they gave it to another studio and basically put it on auto pilot mode. I pray to god they did that to start making KF3. If I have any wants for KF3, please make it easier to host modded servers. I've hosted modded servers in many games now with little to no issue, but it's fucking HORRIBLE to do in KF2. In some cases if the mods are removed from the steam workshop your server will just stop working, other servers from other games don't work this way and they don't generally require you to even have the mods because they should be hosted server side.

[@ThrashMatter]

I played 700 hours of KF1 until this one was announced. I remeber when i earned a beta key back in 2015... i was sooo hyped and i loved the game in spite of having only 4 perks and a few maps, i really enjoyed the journey until this day. I almost never play KF2 actually but it gave me another 700 hours of enjoyment and that was worth every coin I invested in KF2.

[@WhirlingMusic]

they ruined this game with all the nerfs. 2017 and 2018 were the best years. downhill after that. and that's really depressing tbh because I loved this game more than anything

[@tomt55]

KF2 has been a sinking ship since 2019 for sure. I used to play a lot but haven't played since Halloween 2020. Maybe KF3 will be fun whenever it's going to be released...

[@hienapple4664]

Hi! I just tried KF2 for a few days before the Tidal Terror update. Then some of my friends got hooked into this game, too! We may have missed its prime time, but the core gameplay is the thing that makes us thrilled. I purchased the Ultimate Edition of the game, hoping there won’t be any paid weapons anymore.

[@HeyKyle]

I still think KF1 is a better game. I don’t dislike KF2, not at all. It’s a great game. But KF1 just beats it in terms of difficulty and atmosphere. And it’s not rose tinted glasses, I’ve played KF1 in recent times and still feel this way. I’m not that dumb to say I don’t enjoy KF2 of course I do, but I just really hope the eventual sequel will bring back that dark tone.

[@PathfinderBoi]

I feel like not a lot of people liked the darker theme to be honest.

[@spear_jack9326]

KF2 was there for me to play for such a long time, and I used to enjoy it so much. I'd say late 2018 was the last time the game felt true. After that, we kept getting more and more junk added to the game, and Saber took over and made things worse. I uninstalled at the first sight of paid weapons. I just couldn't believe how much the game was monetized. It really lacked soul. The game was littered with atmosphere-ruining cosmetics and the game just lost all original art direction. It did not help when event zeds showed up on every map for nearly 2 months, and that ridiculous neon skins were becoming so mainstream in the game. The game used to put an emphasis on team work and would punish bad decisions, such as raging a Scrake was much more deadly earlier in the game's life cycle. Sharpshooter and Demo were both much more respected for their roles, now pretty much any perk can do anything almost, which is the worst part. I want Coop in my Coop shooter. I don't wanna run around like idiots in a mindless shooter. Mindless shooters are the worst type of game ever. KF2 focuses less on skill and more on spam and just blasting everything. There really is not much tactical elements left to the game. Decisions like "Should I take a Railgun because I'm confident in my team to defend me, or should I take an M14 and Crossbow to still put some good damage out but defend myself" just don't matter anymore. Those types of decisions based on team composition were what made the game fun. There was a reason why Commandos should rarely take on large zeds, and why Gunslingers shouldn't get automatic weapons. Now stuff like this exists and completely ignores the original intent of the game. I wouldn't be so upset about it but it's a live service game so I am forced to play with these changes unless I want to have a modified server which I have no patience for. The game doesn't even let me host a game on my own just to play with friends. Even while the horrible predatory microtransactions for crap cosmetics (mostly) was in the game, I still sunk over 2000 hrs in it because the core gameplay was just so much fun. The only thing that comes close is Left 4 Dead 2, which is still solid because they didn't add a bunch of crap that ruined the original game underneath. The game from 2015-2018 was a solid 8.5/10 for me, it just needed a better emphasis on teamplay and less focus on a horrible cosmetic system that ruined the original art style. As stated, they kept doing the opposite of this and the game lost touch with the incredible experience it once provided. Many people point to the long-overdue zerk nerf as a big problem. That was actually something good they did. Perks should not be able to solo a 6P HOE lobby just through passive regen and damage resistance alone. Especially when the Eviscerator was a 1-2 shot kill on Scrakes. That was absurd. It used to be a 1 shot kill on 5P HOE, 6P HOE needed 2 since he barely had any left but teammates could just clean up after that. What was really stupid was the Sharpshooter Stun Chance nerf. The M14 and Crossbow (heck, every sharpshooter weapon) were STUN MACHINES. And for GOOD REASON. The game can be chaotic so having a perk that can mitigate some chaos and save his team from a big zed is great! But then they removed it. Apparently having good weapons that fulfill their intended purpose is not good. The eviscerator is an exception to this rule because it allowed the Berserker to solo 6P HOE lobbies with low effort. Sharp did not have that level of survivability and needed protection or tools to fight against the zeds. He had stun, M14, Lever, and Crossbow with retrievable bolts. Railgun was an option to decimate large zeds or nearly kill them. Then, after the stun nerf, Railgun became Sharpshooter meta which sucked the fun out of all the other guns that used to work very well. After Eviscerator nerf, you could still kill Scrakes with 3-5 Headshots on 6P HOE. So it wasn't huge. But the sharpshooter stun nerf sucked. Some nerfs were long overdue to make the purpose of other perks more apparent. However, they kept changing their mind on balance decisions so much that nothing was consistent. Eventually we got to where we are now which has all perks capable of doing everything, and now Sharpshooter is seen as underpowered by players because he requires more skill to do his job than other perks. Rant over, but there could be much more.

[@luissantiago5163]

Really? Man time flies

[@BDozer666]

I'd say 2016 was the peak because 2017 is when it all started to go to shit. Crossperking (which killed the already bad survivalist), new ''bosses'' that should have stayed weekly outbreak exclusives, stupid forced event themed zeds that you have to deal with every damn season, downgraded versions of community maps being official, stupid descent maps, etc... Every update from then on was a double edged sword. But yeah 2019 is when all hope was lost.

[@Costillejo]

For me the first nail in the coffin was the addition of EDARs. Those things are out of some other game, not KF2.

[@iMThatOnlyBeast13]

great video

[@NikolaiMihailov1]

Tripwire also killed Red Orchestra Vietnam..dont forget that one too.

[@beastjason]

Twi doesn't work on KF2 since 2020.

[@RazyNovian]

i was installed this game from EPIC GAME STORE last week... i enjoyed the gameplay and play this game with my friend, but after 5 days, i start to had a problem, i wasn't be able to join any server that listed, while browse server, the loading indicator still moving and not stopping at all... so sadly i have to uninstall KF2

[@wub9044]

Is that a graphic mod I'm seeing in this video? I do love me some cel-shading mods for video games.

[@deadantagonist5743]

Spitfires remain my favorite most satisfying and quite possibly most OP weapons I’ve ever used bro I hop on go to my maxed out fire bug class pick up fuel spitfires within round like two or three and ride them till the end of every match and I never get tired of them only the game itself because we all know it can be repetitive

[@kalemmackey2917]

I dropped it when they added upgrades. It ruined a good flow where people could make smart decisions on spending or sharing cash. Made every gun either weaker or too expensive. So lame. Guess it saved me from learning about the stupid DLC stuff. Silver linings

[@GHOSTDelta3]

Actually are they probably busy because they work at KF3 which will release in 2023

[@that_revenant5520]

I remember seeing the summer sideshow from 2018, instantly bought the game alongside ms foster, i used to play the game so much and mained support just to use the AA-12. Seeing the game in this state makes me genuenily sad. (If you see this i'd like to thank you for making content about this game, been watching ever since 2018 :P)

[@thechazz8080]

I got the beta of this game on my old pc that had no graphics card and I also had the First killing floor Good times, now I finally have a fully built but cheap pc and still enjoy this game Hopefully KF3 is in the works

[@d.f.7397]

At least it's still fun to play with friends. But some features like the inventory and the launching time are a real pain.

[@costas88]

I created epic games account in 2018. In 2020 of summer my laptop broke so I got first time a mobile phone. To get access in pc I had to go in batle net caffe and I found many games that my laptop couldn't play. One day I was looking games in epic games and I found killing floor 2 for free (because they just released) and I also got the killing floor 2 beta. In 2021, 2 February my laptop where fixed but I realized that my laptop wouldn't be able to run the game. (If you Readed the whole paragraph then yes I wrote this just to tell a sad story)

[@sunglassesdemon4761]

For me Zedternal is the reason why I keep playing KF2 Its a must have mod in my opinion

[@bigsus9715]

Pass the joint strasser

[@bluebear1818]

I started playing in 2017 a month or two before summer sideshow, but i have only ever played it inconsistently. Great game but I agree it has deteriorated in recent years. :'(

[@AceSham]

I bought kf2 in 2016 when it first came out and thought it was trash I guess my taste was just different back then, gave the game another chance in 2020 and it is one of my favorite games now, you have to accept shortcomings in life and the content has been bad recently. I can only hope Tripwire can learn from the mistakes they made with kf2 development

[@freezy1576]

ONE IN THE PIPE!!! God miss killing floor 1

[@asleep5422]

I remember buying KF2 the day it went on early access. I've played off and on ever since, have a few prestige 5 perks, and still enjoy most of what the game has to offer. while the quality of the updates has been going down, Hamlet has one of the easiest choke points to hold i've ever seen on that scaffolding bridge, I do generally understand why they are structured the way they are. Continuing to have free updates for a game that's going on 8 years old is already incredible, and I understand why people originally got upset at the notion of buying weapons individually, but I had no individual problem with it. Every game needs money for development, and the fact that the weapons are shared DLC (one person in a lobby has it, you all have it), instead of individual like they were in Killing Floor 1, makes it much more palatable. Some of the perk balance changes have made me scratch my head, for sure. Berserker being utterly destroyed after being the most braindead hard-carry perk in existence was a bit harsh. Demo getting to increase their RPG supply by almost 40% really shook things up. Survivalist being the worst perk in the game finally losing that crown to swat was impressive.

[@Kylar_Godslayer]

You said if they improved it a little it would be the best zombie game, what do you consider to be better?

[@PathfinderBoi]

They already have the shit stuff hard wired into the game, lootboxes, overpriced DLC, lazy reskin weapons, no new zeds, no new official good maps, objective mode makes no sense and is pretty much abandoned. The overall game with no new content is really dry, the new content we do get feels dated on day 1. So yeah they need to either make an entire new game to fix the problems, or really step back and take a look at it.

[@Kylar_Godslayer]

@@PathfinderBoi I was looking more for a recommendation for a better zombie game

[@Bull1the1Great]

I miss supporting with Medic ... If I could afford more storage space I just installed it again ...

[@Juno101]

I remember playing a lot of KF2 in 2017