Patreon EXCLUSIVE | This Is A Dialogue | The Joe Budden Podcast

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Emotions run high in this Patreon-exclusive episode as the gang covers a wide spectrum of topics. Joe starts by sharing a story of some wigs he bought for Melyssa before they discuss whether she is low maintenance after a planned trip was canceled. The JBP then unpacks one of Mel’s past relationships, if guy friendships are stronger than female friendships, + more!
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[@bigmeek2768]

Joe is the master at moving the goal post and contradicting himself, shit is classic😂😂😂

[@youknowwho9983]

Fr🤣

[@cwilliams9465]

Everytime 😂

[@frankiecarter9430]

He is a narcissist and gaslighter . Liar is an understatement

[@juombe]

​@frankiecarter9430 You sound like you know the man personally, not!

[@tylerty777]

This might be my favorite episode so far. I applaud Mel's openness. I'm sure being open about something so personal in front of hundreds of thousands of people isn't easy. And the last 30ish minutes had me dying 😂.

[@axa5005]

mine toooo. love the transparency and the safe space they created for her.

[@rfjowers0839]

Dog I may have to be patron

[@Living4Xcellence]

@@axa5005😊

[@iguessyoucancallitapodcast732]

Wow Mel and ice admitting the bottle was their therapist was so real and raw for them to openly admit. Kudos to them! This was a great episode

[@khaleelorwhatever]

I can't say this enough, having 6 people on the pod is really nice. I feel like it gives a really good balance of opinions

[@99chavis]

I agree, but not enough. I wish there was another woman’s perspective so Mel doesn’t get drowned out in misogyny as often. As well as another male perspective that is more emotionally intelligent.

[@khaleelorwhatever]

@@99chavis Omg yes, it's getting hard to watch them speak over her. I agree one more maybe off camera the way Parks is would be a great fit

[@TheORIGINAL.J.T.]

This episode went from therapeutic to pure foolery 😂

[@butta1193]

The transition was insane!

[@youknowwho9983]

Because joe can never admit when he is wrong

[@jayamo-addae415]

People I hope you agree with me that this was such a heartfelt episode. So many people - including me - relate with Mel's situation and approach. We have been hurt so much that we cope by never really attaching, and detaching easily. It's unhealthy but we believe we need to do that to protect ourselves. And the one time we don't do that and let our guard down, we are disappointed so badly that we become even more guarded.

[@AmbassadorofSalem]

So doing the same thing to someone else that was done to you? Got it

[@zeegray4247]

🎉

[@demontejones619]

@@AmbassadorofSalemLmao you misunderstood the entire thing & u sound like a crybaby. It’s life. Literally almost everyone does it.

[@FromTheHipp]

flip's serious side is quite literally a gift that he should give the world more of. you can always see it in how loyal he is with friends but help mel open up and speak about something like that was different.

[@lockworldmusic4459]

Deadass that made me really fw flip heavy

[@journeedevinelove]

I said the same thing; but not so eloquently….

[@sogstreetz7513]

He does , just on his own platform ..

[@darrellanderson7690]

Facts

[@midwestkeithsweat7043]

Flip is good at that for sure

[@jamilsiddiqui8553]

Flip demonstrated that he’s the most emotionally intelligent member of this podcast staff. And so much love and props out to M4. This was therapeutic and inspiring.

[@jayinthebx]

He always been that watch his pod flip da script. Majority of his interviews are in depth

[@Skyfall22]

The same guy who didn’t know about a woman’s ovulation cycle? Lol

[@jamilsiddiqui8553]

@@Skyfall22 Emotional intelligence is not sex education/reproductive education. They’re completely different things.

[@fnibbs4161]

So true about flip! Who woulda thunk it?

[@Abandoned2377]

He's not he reads people well. He himself is emotional all the time

[@Chakras.N.Chasers]

My male platonic bestie always tells me like it is. He says “You always say no one protects you… but I’m protecting you by telling you to leave that ninja alone.” I don’t listen but he is right. His friendship means everything to me.

[@vfromldn]

Y’all really brought tears to me. I felt Mel’s attitude towards joy soooo deep. Also so nice to hear Flips insight. He’s intuitive and sweet. Really really lovely episode. Thanks guys, keep up this amazing work. The shows been my favourite for yonks and the improvements with this new team are outstanding. Grown people, grown tall, real connections and energy. I appreciate all of you, here’s your flowers 💐 💐💐💐💐✊🏾💓

[@DropSet_Nicky]

Same

[@qbethune1]

This episode was sooo fire!! I’ve learned something about Joe in some of these debates he has with Ish. Joe gives vague explanations of his views initially and then when he’s about to get pinned, he pivots his view, which changes the dynamic of the conversation. For this debate in particular, I gave it to Ish lol. Good stuff fellas! Mel’s transparency piece was insightful and I believe she helped a lot of people who struggle with pessimism.

[@kareemlawson878]

The way you guys ain’t leaving us empty handed during your break is legendary. Great episode

[@CaptainKirk]

Queenzflip is really the ODB of the group. I been peeping. He’s extremely cultured and well read. And thoughtful. So much smarter than he’s given credit for

[@DanielTyson1]

FOR REAL! He has a lot of wisdom

[@GoInternational2024]

I agree..we all love the addition of Flip.

[@ah-kl6dp]

Very true!

[@dystenishepperson7645]

Factssss he is legendary

[@ravecomedical9647]

He plays the wild , lit character / role to suck people in…he’s much deeper and a great addition to the pod

[@GrandPrizeFitnesAJAY]

This episode is iconic. It's wild. The emotional 🎢 of it all.

[@AENG1991]

Flip & Mel cooked this episode. This podcast keeps getting better & better. 🙏🏾

[@sheraldcooper1009]

Yes.

[@LaynieBella]

Mel had me in tears because I adopted that mindset overtime as well due to past situations. And it's so hard to reprogram your mind once you've actually been through those type of let down because it leaves you so openand vulnerable and with the knowing of what could happen it makes so much harder

[@jessicadean5654]

This Patreon right here is why Joe picked Flip! Much respect for flip!! LOVED his analytical take. ❤

[@joeysonyt]

Joe buying and picking out the wigs for Mel is absolutely insane 😭 nah Joe is a great boss man

[@MRGthatsme]

Mad insane and hilarious

[@MB-mz8ts]

Facts!!

[@seanp6698]

Cartoon man sketch it up

[@TheKai432]

Ya know I think the best part of this cast is how different each person's ideology is.

[@jjbing3]

The variety and range is amazing!

[@27hill_]

Quite possibly one of the best JBP episodes ever. Such a great sense of family. Really appreciate Mel for being vulnerable

[@Vybezbyinez]

BESTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!

[@twentyfoursevenpromo]

Mel just taught me so much thru her being able to have this convo with a room full of men & cameras I applaud her. We don’t always realize what beautiful woman think because u have to be around to long to figure out there flaws

[@kris6865]

I absolutely feel for Mel and she's super strong. This was such a great episode and I'm glad to see that the crew are so supportive of her and each other. This is definitely a true gem of an episode. And I'm a solidified Melody!

[@blissdad13]

Why do you feel for her?

[@kris6865]

​@@blissdad13 Is this intended to be a legitimate question or is this meant to be one of those questions where you act like you're oblivious but the real intent is to spark a debate because you disagree with my statement? I'm not trying to be funny either.

[@blissdad13]

@@kris6865 serious question.

[@blissdad13]

What about her is strong?

[@blissdad13]

She was shown to be rude and inconsiderate in this episode.. not bothering to send the wig back after joe went out of his way to send it to her.. not even bothering to respond. For weeks. Hella inconsiderate. Not bothering to respond regarding the braid connect either. That's clearly her get down.. Hella rude.. is that what you consider strong? Basically.. she asked for favors.. using her pretty privilege.. got them.. and ghosted.. as far as not responding.. then she talks about being upset.. that hee rich funny looking dude that she was in a long distance relationship with for a mere 7 months.. ghosted her. I bet he she was hella rude and inconsiderate to him as well. Id bet real money on that! Notice all she talked about was what she needed and what she was going through... She said nothing about what he needed... nothing.. And she has no idea how he experienced being with her. None....... How about we hold everyone accountable for their own bs.. even if they are pretty.. she is exactly where her personal choices led her to be.. Oh yeah... and she didn't even use the gdamm wigs he sent her. Which is Hella high maintenance..many of her points showed this.... she is not low maintenance.. which is perfectly fine.. shes a baddie.old baddie.. but still a baddie...she gets to be high maintenance.. but it does show lack of true self awareness.. and women with low self awareness, get ghosted...somebody is gonna have to tell em theyre trash.. butnit aint gotta be me!!!.. just saying.. I enjoyed this episode. Bless.

[@austintreakle9084]

Y’all going crazy with these Patreon Exclusive drops! Salute!!!

[@maxxamillz2255]

Yooo they been blowin minds wit these pat exclusives n i thought it was gn be a dry week cuz of they vaca shiiit we been gettn blessed everyday yall go on vaca more 😂😂

[@bnkris660]

They showing out frfr! And I'm here for it. 🙌🏾🔥

[@risktakerceo1837]

Shit we pay for y’all get for free 😂😂😂😂

[@risktakerceo1837]

Broke ass ppl can’t pay for patreon

[@estabanharris7785]

On ig they said they dropping 5 this week

[@redxxman3895]

1:43:33 love this pod. I’m laid up in the hospital. Just had a colostomy (shit bag) reversal. So glad y’all give me life in this sad ass building.

[@TheSpydoc]

Get better soon

[@Dr.JudeAEMasonMD]

This is the low key the Flip that I love. Even on the main show he’s so emotionally attuned. His insights are mad profound because he’s genuinely curious. He cares about Mel like a big brother. One day maybe Joe will stops clowning him long enough for him to engage her thoughts. The show would get so much more out of Mel if they would let Flip cook. Mel, you and I should be besties. Our luggage matches so immaculately.

[@who.is.shimie]

This episode is special. Yall are truly necessary.

[@johnnyfeliciano9919]

Great episode on how much respect and professionalism all display on the pod. That’s how you argue, you yell out your points and maintain a loyal friendship. Keep laying out the blueprints to this, best podcast hands down.

[@freesparks1931]

My respect LEVEL has just gone through the roof for FLIP! Extremely Constructive conversation, and I love how Mel was receptive to it. Strong Black Woman!!!

[@Nas_P23]

Same I love Flip

[@Liveforever.NYC.]

Topic of argument starts at 1:45:10. You welcome 🦾💪🏾

[@MrBen1703]

Big thanks to the JBP crew for the content 👊🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏾

[@33LifeEnergy]

I really enjoyed this Pod. The conversations led me to look within myself. I see myself in Mel. Emotions is high on this one 😢

[@krissy7180]

Ish and Joe fighting about fuckin each others work is hilarious

[@beejones8145]

This Just Might Be One Of The Greatest JBP Episodes Ever! 💯🙌🏾 Salute to the whole cast Amazing Job!

[@fsexpresscleaningservices5720]

I loved this episode!!! I love Mel for finally being vulnerable & being open to hearing her brothers out! I love flip for putting the foolishness aside & brotherly loving on his sis, during her time of need. & Shout out to the other guys for keeping it 💯 with sis! I loved this episode! 💝

[@loreaigaprime9096]

Ish definitely came with the cold reality here. Mel: I was grieving my mom and I needed you. Ish: it's only been 7 months. I got other bitches. 😂☠️ my heart stopped.

[@uptopsane5902]

Time stamp?

[@smiffdavis9093]

Flip, this who you need to be every episode stop holding yourself back bro

[@axa5005]

I agree but he probably feels like Turn Up Flip got him to where he is with the skits, etc so it'll be a while before this side of Flip becomes a regular occurrence

[@MsButtaP44]

I soooo appreciated Flip's POV. It gave room for Mel to exhale. 🫡

[@jayinthebx]

Watch his podcast episodes. They were really good. Thats how i knew of flip he's probably the only pod I've watched where any person comes on and he gets deep into their story and its always interesting.

[@smokeabaguhthat5443]

This is how he runs his shows

[@ladyschatze9159]

Being single is my peace of mind. I can't do no more. Good pod and I'm with Mel💯

[@Ghost251_pa]

Joe's a wordsmith. An argument with him is a war of words. 😂

[@krisbenz08]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheeMrDavid]

Ice: the wig looked like a helmet Also Ice: hey not too much on Mel! 😂😂😂😂

[@IMinds33]

Listening to Mel is like looking into a mirror…thank you for sharing your experience with us ❤

[@GrandPrizeFitnesAJAY]

Flip's emotional intelligence is stellar. Wow! He's amazing.

[@jklee0323]

I’m loving how they are giving Mel the real about her relationship ending when her Mom was sick. She didn’t want to hear it but what they were telling her is the male point of view. Men and women think and respond to situations differently. She says dude handled it completely wrong and she’s entitled to her opinion but he did what was best for him and she doesn’t like it. Bet money the shoe has been on the other foot and she has hurt a man and not given a single damn. It really boils down to the fact that there’s no good time to reject a woman. And her being Melyssa Ford she isn’t used to not getting her way. She may be 40 but she’s still a bit naive. Just keeping it a stack.

[@misskatie198]

LMAO THAT SCREAMING MATCH IS HILARIOUS

[@thejanuarycountry]

This was a great conversation. It made me think about a lot and why I am becoming detached

[@lindo17mkhize]

“Did you pop?” - Yeah. “Was it aight?” 😂🤣🤣

[@Bkjohnny5]

The end of this pod was HILARIOUS 🔥💯💥

[@onlysaun]

The Mel part of this pod was DIFFERENT and heartfelt. A lot of insight gained...

[@ashtheoneandonly745]

Joe hit on something that went over everyone’s head. Low maintenance starts on the inside. It’s not about manicures and pedicures, but about effective communication and having worked through childhood trauma and issues and having a strong sense of self and not need external validation from others, etc. That’s low maintenance. Having inner peace is low maintenance because of a person is centered they not going to fold and they’ll be consistent in how they show up in the world and in relationships.

[@jadedone4237]

This episode hit home. Mel was spot on with everything she said. Nothing is worse than being abandoned when your most vulnerable. I lived what Mel did....to the tee. If all you see is BS, there ain't much else to look forward to and why set yourself up for another failure

[@RiversDownMusic]

YOOOOOOOOO I WAIT for episodes it feels like Christmas with these multiple day back to back episodes this is amazing good work y’all!

[@King-li9ko]

Nah I’m with Mel someone you’re dating for 8 months should be there or communicate if you’re going through something. Leaving someone just bc of that is messed up

[@Dbutter5000]

Ish will scream & yell for 20 mins uninterrupted and get mad and say “can I finish!” Lol this shit too funny

[@illadvisedwiseguys]

This episode was one big therapy session. Frfr, if you don't have this level of dialogue with your "friends", you need new friends...

[@rachelbrooks3586]

Thank you for this reminder

[@illadvisedwiseguys]

@@rachelbrooks3586 💯💯

[@Abeylius]

This episode set a high Bar. Happy to see Joe's vision take shape.

[@IMinds33]

Flip handled this discussion exceptionally

[@micfleo3476]

THE FLIP ADDICTION ...BRAVO 👏👏

[@jmarie8711]

If the patreon is giving this, I'm about to subscribe. This episode is everything

[@DanielTyson1]

This whole pod is full of tension 😂😂😂 everyone was on edge!

[@817Laurenn]

Christmas in July with the JBP. Blessing us with all these episodes and Patreon exclusives.

[@brandiknight6592]

Exactly thank goodness

[@Ahyame718]

Sorry for your loss Mel. Mad love to you ❤️

[@ChristieDean]

I’ll admit I wasn’t on the Flip train when he first joined, but wow, I love him. He really brings it every time 💥

[@TeachMeach]

A foot rub by the pool is crazy😂😂😂😂

[@GoodClipsTV]

To be fair Tahiry has pretty feet and ish has a foot fetish

[@trecycat]

I’m with Mel. The guys basically gave her the justification for her “detached” persona. You’re not supposed to trust people will be truthful, but you’re supposed to keep being vulnerable to immature people who cannot communicate effectively? And be a mind reader on top of that? 😒

[@SilverFangDX]

Or how about take some accountability and pick better? Joe said what most man thought, you want the young immature guy that doesn't have the life experience to understand how to treat a woman while you ignore the older men. Make it make sense.

[@oladeebiazazi4538]

@@SilverFangDX I get what you’re saying but two things can be true

[@nicandrews1370]

​@@SilverFangDXYou and all men say the same crap. "I ain't that other nigga, I'm different, you cant treat me like him...blah blah blah." You want somebody to trust you blindly and never have your guard up but the behavior is the same. But when the experience is the same, and the response is 🖕🏾 it now she's bitter and hurt. Can't even win for losing.

[@marcusaurelius6873]

​@@oladeebiazazi4538I don't see how the other side is true. She was in a long dostance relationship for less 7-8 months and dude backed out in a shitty way after her mom got sick. Unfortunate for sure but to hold on to that as a crippling trauma as like she said, a "grown ass adult", is corny. Ppl suck. Just the way it is sometimes.

[@SilverFangDX]

@@oladeebiazazi4538 you can't create your own problems and complain. The pod was hard to listen to because Mel just wouldn't take accountability. Men confuse woman for whatever reason, yet you talk to them to try to understand and still deny what they say.

[@nicandrews1370]

I was NOT expecting the end to go this way 😮

[@b.o.1951]

Thank you for the exclusives JBP. Much appreciated 🙏🏽

[@kautharsaaka8937]

Shoutout the JBP for the constant content😭even on their break

[@IAmMrNotes]

Jesus Christ I can’t believe I made it to the end 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@seandennis4822]

This by far was one of the best conversations I've heard anywhere at anytime. My god

[@florentali9461]

This pod really made Flip the most intriguing person on this pod . For someone that has the ability to be so personal and insightful , I wonder why he doesn’t evolve his content 🤔

[@desmondb2989]

you can tell that Flip stunned the cast with a very insightful reflection on Mel

[@jamilsiddiqui8553]

Flip telling Mel her wigs are trash had me in tears 💀

[@MalieB]

Melissa u were in a room w/ ppl who all still have their Moms (thankfully). However bc of that fact alone they can’t fathom nor grasp that abandonment u were speaking to nor the hurt collectively. Ppl don’t get it until They Get IT! The Motherless Tribe is real.

[@FirstChain_Prime1Nce]

25:57 joe's kill shot 🤣🤣

[@jayvinwilliams1652]

Now that I’m listening to these a second time, Joe is right Mel is naturally rude 😂

[@DeitrichDavis]

She really is.

[@blissdad13]

She's a baddie. Old baddie. But still a baddie. Baddies aren't nice. And they will blow your budget.. with no fks given.. Thats why you should marry a baddie. Lease only.. better yet just rent.

[@midwestkeithsweat7043]

Flip opened Mel up great observation as a friend that’s real friendship

[@FirstChain_Prime1Nce]

30:52 ayo ish funny as hell 🤣🤣🤣

[@Thewavegodp]

Dude that walked out on Mel while her mom was sick was a coward. Two things can be true at the same time. You can feel a certain way about what someone else is experiencing and not wanna deal with it, and still approach it from a very cowardly and disgusting way.

[@deesee2051]

I mean he lived in another country and it was only 7 months that’s not a serious relationship and we’re only hearing her side

[@Thewavegodp]

@@deesee2051 cowardly in the sense of just not communicating what your move is. A lot of women just appreciate it. If you tell me, “yo I’m good”. Leading these women on them to make them think it’s more than it is is the problem.

[@deesee2051]

@@Thewavegodp I understand but it just seems like Mel isn’t giving the entire story in all of her relationships she always blames the man

[@Thewavegodp]

@@deesee2051 oh, I completely agree with that. But as a man, we know how we give it up. We will act like everything is all good. Meanwhile, we have checked out of the hotel in our mind.

[@deesee2051]

@@Thewavegodp True I just don’t think they were that close especially him living in London

[@alwayslivinglife64]

Mel is the strong friend. I get it.

[@QueXopa79]

Whew chile… that part!

[@ellenhabte9828]

This was fire thank you guys for being so vulnerable it was highkey a therapy session for me watching this ♥️♥️♥️

[@ihunnydipsz]

Besides the Patreon drop with Akademiks this was one was top tier mix of content !

[@ah-kl6dp]

I really like Mel, she is smarter than what she knows.Its easy to tell love (from a partner) is missing. I hope she listens to the guys as I feel they give her good advice. Its not easy but I wish her peace.

[@muvaearf824]

This episode is confirming so much inside of me... I just want to hug Mel 🥺💔 she spoke directly to me! This ep was therapeutic... Joeeeee I hate youuu for being real but love you for it... and this why it's best to treat ppl accordingly nothin more or less... it's cold out here... stay armored up ladies fuck that!

[@ennixmariam8526]

Y'all are the best for keeping us occupied with these patreon vids on your time off!

[@princespointofview3381]

30:51 flip was looking shocked like… am I? And Ish was looking like… Mel stop lying.

[@jayfuego2011]

One of the best adult conversation I’ve heard in a long time… shit was DOPE 🤙🏾

[@ParrisE]

Love you Mel! Thank you for the vulnerability

[@MuddyDucc]

Top 3 episode in the JBP cinematic universe 🎭

[@thatstress1]

I ain’t go lie he replaced mal and Rory successfully 😂😂💯

[@podfather6448]

1:18:33 “I don’t talk to your ex’s yo.. one” 😂😂

[@nicoled6330]

I really needed to hear the convo about the guy backing out from Mel in her time of heavy shit.. same happened to me & these guys really made me understand how he may have felt & it allowed me to grant him grace & let it go

[@SocialiteSymone]

This episode was for the Melodys…we got this 💪🏾

[@user-ii8em7hb4d]

Jbp looking out for the pours and I'm loving every bit of it!! 🤣😂

[@DropSet_Nicky]

56:42 I've asked "why" in the same manner! I feel that pain Mel!

[@Frija_the_goddess]

Ladies, this just proves how valuable our 🐱 is no matter WHAT these men say or try to act so don’t ever lower your standards for them 😂🎉 sprinkle sprinkle ✨✨

[@MosMoney187]

At this point I don't think Melyssa will find the right man to settle down with. My heart goes out to her on her lost with her mother. If she was dealing with a man around the time she lost her and he left her I think that's f***ed up. Some ninjas are scummy like that. And Ish is right woman need a big brother to talk too.

[@jontownsel3295]

This episode was pure greatness imma have to re-up my patreon again since I’m missing heat like this

[@standbyme7776]

1:43:13 the funniest moment in podcast history lmfaooo

[@HowItIs2424]

Lmao when Ish says " He got bitches, A Bunch Of Them " I died

[@BMwBears2005]

Flip with that China joke caught me off guard

[@elleque1]

Great episode. I feel Mel all the way.