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THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker dispute Patrick Beverley's latest comments on the NBA Playoffs.
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@mikefloes
@mikefloes 2 жыл бұрын
He called CP3 a hall of famer before anything. But he mainly brought into question why CP3's short comings aren't slandered or scrutinized like other superstar players. I don't see that as such a huge deal.
@hanspatmpouma1183
@hanspatmpouma1183 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@andresenriquez6793
@andresenriquez6793 2 жыл бұрын
For me I feel it was more egregious him singing James harden praises
@tahinowright7204
@tahinowright7204 2 жыл бұрын
The truth hurts
@tumadrechupapinga6252
@tumadrechupapinga6252 2 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Olarewaju bingo…goes to show you how biased Pat is. When someone is as biased as Pat the. He loses credibility. That’s just he way it is.
@k-way6146
@k-way6146 2 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Olarewaju not the same these two are just trying to make it that way pat bev said he’s not never going to speak on a man when he’s trying to get his money that’s why he said max harden out. But Chris got his money and have been stinking it up in the playoffs for years with great teams . Harden has only had one bad year and has had lesser talent on his teams besides last season which he got hurt and this season
@Commsense750
@Commsense750 2 жыл бұрын
Rob Parker talking about lack pf credibility is hilarious
@lamadesurvivor5216
@lamadesurvivor5216 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Broussard too 😮‍💨
@thinglizzy2718
@thinglizzy2718 2 жыл бұрын
@@lamadesurvivor5216 Broussard is great. I don’t know how you see that at all. He is more credible than any basketball analyst on Fox. Rob is the one lacking credibility
@nackyding
@nackyding 2 жыл бұрын
I almost fell out of my chair when I heard Rob talking about objectivity
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 2 жыл бұрын
@@thinglizzy2718 no he isn't, Broussard is a flip flopper and tries to put his comments under “people are saying“ tag
@culturehub2628
@culturehub2628 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigman7570 not rlly if he’s wrong he’s wrong just like he said about Phoenix and nets ?
@emoneyizhereson
@emoneyizhereson 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that I don't agree, I just think it's ridiculous to say that Bev loses credibility bc he's biased. Reporters and broadcasters on mainstream media are some of the most biased individuals, yet we tune in bc they are entertaining. Bias is not something that is exclusive to NBA players. Rob Parker been hating on Lebron James for over a decade, but I guess that's just "objective" right?
@achumangelanga6299
@achumangelanga6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The take industry is built in with so many biases. All these reporters and journos are sharing their personal views mostly especially the popular ones. I think Broussard might be the only dude without bias against some star or player. all the rest are just like Pat Bev
@charcoalcowboy
@charcoalcowboy 2 жыл бұрын
Rob Parker and Chris Broussard are extremely biased so their shouldn’t dare open their damn mouths to speak on tjis
@djbeazy
@djbeazy 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Beverly lost no credibility. It is good Beverly tells the truth from players perspective. Sports media has a chance to come back if they involve player truths and not trying to form their own narrative.
@DubAuthentic
@DubAuthentic 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@wilsutton9907
@wilsutton9907 2 жыл бұрын
but PAT Bev isn't objective stop it!!
@munishyadav456
@munishyadav456 2 жыл бұрын
​@@wilsutton9907 Ok so you are objective? Listen it directly from the players. If he dont like CP3 he said it honestly and gave his reasons. TF you are talking about objective ?
@MrTed89
@MrTed89 2 жыл бұрын
I think his credibility was lost because he talking out with his emotions instead of his thinking. Remember last year when the sun's beat the clippers and pat shoved cp3.
@thereasonwhy5188
@thereasonwhy5188 2 жыл бұрын
Pat can't speak for other players
@redx0003
@redx0003 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody calm down, y r y’all taking Beverly so seriously??????? It’s Beverly 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@decepticonxtreme6893
@decepticonxtreme6893 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯 the back pusher 🤣
@Emmanny
@Emmanny 2 жыл бұрын
@@decepticonxtreme6893 defending notoriously dirty chris paul?
@desert_hunter83
@desert_hunter83 2 жыл бұрын
Slow news day 😂
@CousinEddiesTown
@CousinEddiesTown 2 жыл бұрын
Great point.
@LurnWell
@LurnWell 2 жыл бұрын
Beverly takes himself seriously.. 🤔
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 2 жыл бұрын
So Westbrook could talk trash about Patrick's main calling card which is defense and ruin his reputation not based on facts, but Patrick can't clown CP3 for blowing another lead? He's stating fact
@robertrios1732
@robertrios1732 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, they are protecting their sources. Now we know who is the biggest snitch on the lead.
@lordbeerus6182
@lordbeerus6182 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody gets slandered like Westbrook stop it
@juyahmad
@juyahmad 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordbeerus6182 yes other players do. You know that
@robertrios1732
@robertrios1732 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordbeerus6182 not slander he brings it to himself
@lordbeerus6182
@lordbeerus6182 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertrios1732 def slander
@motarecords420
@motarecords420 2 жыл бұрын
Rob Parker unbiased? Now that's a joke!
@KingoftheSouth78
@KingoftheSouth78 2 жыл бұрын
A complete joke!
@marskeelove4166
@marskeelove4166 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@motarecords420
@motarecords420 2 жыл бұрын
@@zackarykasprzak3073 Right, Pat Bev's take on CP3 the the same as Rob Parker's take on TB12 & "Stat Padfford"
@Eric-lx8hp
@Eric-lx8hp 2 жыл бұрын
yah but he's 6'4
@eugenecaldwell9619
@eugenecaldwell9619 2 жыл бұрын
😅😅Yes he is but Pat Bev is still playing and he's way more bias than Rob.
@downsouthfaithful4952
@downsouthfaithful4952 2 жыл бұрын
Actually he didnt lose anything he gained a ton of fans lol People are mad he spoke the truth
@joesphbutchko6472
@joesphbutchko6472 2 жыл бұрын
Preach!! Chris & Rob need to go..
@JK-dy8ub
@JK-dy8ub 2 жыл бұрын
lmao so it's ok for Rob Parker to hate on Tom Brady and Skip to hate on Lebron but Pat Bev can't have his feelings? stop it
@rickyrobby8133
@rickyrobby8133 Жыл бұрын
Rob has really strong views on former players being analysts, but he doesn’t even begin to meet his own standards for others.
@shep1582
@shep1582 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't say he wasn't an all-time great. He said CP3 was a HOF & that he liked his game. Chris love your takes, but did you listen to Pat Bev? Be fair
@D_Webb
@D_Webb 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly lmao he literally said he changed the game. He specifically said HIS PROBLEM IS THAT CP DOESNT GET SLANDER AS MUCH AS HE GETS PRAISE. THATS FAIR
@Marcusp1620
@Marcusp1620 2 жыл бұрын
I think today Pat Bev gave more context whereas yesterday it seemed to be nothing but personal.
@jejo63660
@jejo63660 2 жыл бұрын
He called the player with the *fourth most steals of all time* in the nba a cone. I stopped listening after that
@jmoney4220
@jmoney4220 2 жыл бұрын
Pat bev doesn’t like Cp3 and was taking shots at him. Name another player that went on tv and trash talked another current player. Pat bev is a weirdo
@trojantony195
@trojantony195 2 жыл бұрын
those giving praise one liners before the disrespect is not valid, people do that attempting to mask the bias but it never works. he’s a hot take guy we already have too many of those
@infinitymixtapes9562
@infinitymixtapes9562 2 жыл бұрын
Pat's takes were legit but they were so coated with animosity and bitterness that no one wants to take him seriously
@stringer2295
@stringer2295 2 жыл бұрын
His harden take wasnt…
@user-jg1ez6kk9e
@user-jg1ez6kk9e 2 жыл бұрын
Truth except the harden take
@Helloim_anthony
@Helloim_anthony 2 жыл бұрын
Now all of a sudden people love pat bev give me a break
@kwenzapakati9598
@kwenzapakati9598 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the guys here, players are often very biased when it comes to appraising their peers but here's my issue... SO IS THE MEDIA (both for or against certain athletes). Rob on Brady, Nick Wright/Colin Cowherd/Shannon Sharpe on LeBron, Skip Bayless on Baker Mayfield/Brady/LeBron. I could go on forever with the biases of media personalities with specific athletes. I agree with the sentiment but the sentiment is rather hypocritical
@jerrybarrios3226
@jerrybarrios3226 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this dudes have no face to play that card
@the_attic_woodworker
@the_attic_woodworker 2 жыл бұрын
Great answer
@ajjones5504
@ajjones5504 2 жыл бұрын
You got down on this post in it’s entirety X 1000% …… Thank you for the F A C T S !!!
@Cha33ful
@Cha33ful 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dreymond Green’s podcast. So I’m all for current players input on the game.
@TavaraTheLaughingLion
@TavaraTheLaughingLion 2 жыл бұрын
It's better than listening to ppl that never played the game professionally, I'll tell you that
@anthonygiavia803
@anthonygiavia803 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really good
@mocancer8485
@mocancer8485 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TavaraTheLaughingLion facts
@munishyadav456
@munishyadav456 2 жыл бұрын
These fake analysts are butt hurt when players have started speaking with honesty. Their endgame is near. It's understandable that they don't like it. 😂
@solidsnake7167
@solidsnake7167 2 жыл бұрын
@@TavaraTheLaughingLion lmao love this ratard type of comment. Draymond speaks in platitudes, no breaking down of anything. Hesitant to critique other players because other players don’t know how to be objective, on top of all that - draymond is a mouth breather and sounds like he has marbles in his mouth. Bill simmons, who started the whole blogging and podcast thing never played pro ball and is an order of magnitude more interesting, funny and intelligent. Draymond wondered aloud who he is - well draymond, he is the guy that created a little something called 30 for 30,so players like him can get on their knees and blo me.
@cizin8685
@cizin8685 2 жыл бұрын
I feel Pat Bev says what he truly feels. We all know hes biased. But also, Paul gets a lot of love of the media. The slander that a normal All time great wud get doesnt apply to him as much. Hes getting slander now but his legacy has been cemented in most people's eyes. He can only go up. But if u lose 5 times after having a 2-0 series lead, it shud be diminshed to some extent as it wud apply to every other person.
@hunterzolomon1303
@hunterzolomon1303 2 жыл бұрын
Bro what about james harden.
@cizin8685
@cizin8685 2 жыл бұрын
Na man Harden doesnt deserve that at all. We all know his takes are biased. I guess they just called him in for entertainment.
@jonnstewart2023
@jonnstewart2023 2 жыл бұрын
@Caveman he already said he's biased tho we know this , but he was ,making a point about the media in general being biased
@mocancer8485
@mocancer8485 2 жыл бұрын
​@Caveman Exactly facts king
@cooper5431
@cooper5431 2 жыл бұрын
He fell out of top 5 pg all time for me and i was a hornets cp guy. Magic, steph, Isiah Thomas, Oscar Robertson, and Stockton now. He could maybe beat out Oscar and Stockton with his offensive bag but that top three is untouchable now for me. Nash would be right there too.
@gametimenp8309
@gametimenp8309 2 жыл бұрын
.. cp3 gets no criticism when he fails and he fall short all the time.
@ceasj23
@ceasj23 2 жыл бұрын
,I get tired of this and im not even a CP3 fan, who criticizes Jason Kidd, or Gary Payton? Neither has a chip, and he has better stats than both, I would post it but they're deleting it. Go to 'Land of Basketball', Cp3 vs either and peep the stats. If you don't simply eat whatever Bev is feeding you, come back with facts saying he's less than them, or ANYONE saying they're trash and explain. No excuses J Kidd played with Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson, Kerry Kittles, and Kenyon Martin, Glove played with Kemp and other stars. Kidd lost back to back finals. Were they trash, expound ill wait, and I have more PGs that had great careers with zero chips.
@BakerZone760
@BakerZone760 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceasj23 GP got one with the Heat but I still get you point
@poppahoggg2587
@poppahoggg2587 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceasj23 Payton did get a championship with the Miami Heat remember
@bernet10j
@bernet10j 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceasj23 Jason Kidd got a chip with the Mavericks. They beat the Heat. 2011
@radicalmatamune
@radicalmatamune 2 жыл бұрын
CP3 is not a 37yo with a veteran minimum contract. He CHOSE to sign that 120 million contract, now people finding excuses that he's too old? Was he too old when he accepted that money? I'm sorry but this kind of contract comes with responsibilities in both success or failure
@superkat460
@superkat460 2 жыл бұрын
Did Beverly ever have credibility? Truly must be one of those slow sports reporting months to resort to featuring Beverly's take.
@itsjob595
@itsjob595 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@justinpelletier03
@justinpelletier03 2 жыл бұрын
Rob Parker isn’t Biased?? Lmao that’s hilarious
@ethanmoneymuter7284
@ethanmoneymuter7284 2 жыл бұрын
I think the subtle difference for me personally is that it isn’t personal for rob. He’s just wrong
@Brehon_TalkingFinance
@Brehon_TalkingFinance 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev is 100% right.. The media never bad mouth him.. Rob Parker rip Brady for his own post on IG. Skip badmouth Westbrook, and Lebron, and call them all types of names.
@jmoney4220
@jmoney4220 2 жыл бұрын
Cp3 has gotten so much slander throughout his career lmao you people listening to pat bev are idiots
@gugy68
@gugy68 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand CP3 as a person Arrogant and dirty. As a player, he’s incredible but a choker on the highest moments. Choke God.
@jmoney4220
@jmoney4220 2 жыл бұрын
@@gugy68 🤡
@antoinejenkins2096
@antoinejenkins2096 2 жыл бұрын
They bad mouth westbrook everyday cp3 got blown out by 40 and still no bad mouthing
@UnclePyro21
@UnclePyro21 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoinejenkins2096 y’all see what you want to see lol. Everybody and their mom ripped CP3 last year and this year. SAS said they choked and that him and DBook need to be viewed differently. Chris said he couldn’t believe it and that they needed to prove themselves before he can buy into the hype. JJ ripped them, Rob never thought they’d win and called them frauds. Skip and Shannon ripped Chris Paul. Nick Wright? All of these people came out and pointed at Paul choking. So when I see y’all run around on here saying “no slander, he never gets any heat, he gets blown out and nobody says anything” when literally everybody IS calling him out after the blow out I know your basing this off of anecdotal nonsense or just choosing to hear what you wanna hear. People called him out bro
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 жыл бұрын
You can be critical of players play but patrick beverly went to far. Some media do the same thing. They get personal and bias on players they don't like
@rrogers2370
@rrogers2370 2 жыл бұрын
Chong ? Is that you? This is bong qui. We danced at the river.
@user-gc3qj7md8c
@user-gc3qj7md8c 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev is doing what others won’t, call out “superstars” who are never super when it matters.
@justincha4973
@justincha4973 2 жыл бұрын
🤡
@culturehub2628
@culturehub2628 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Paul is not a superstar!??
@johncruzz5326
@johncruzz5326 2 жыл бұрын
Culture Hub nigga he called out Chris Paul , he’s a superstar lol 🤦🏻‍♂️
@user-gc3qj7md8c
@user-gc3qj7md8c 2 жыл бұрын
@@culturehub2628 Can you read nigga? He's the superstar that's never super when it matters. Stay locked in lil fella.
@ifebanks95
@ifebanks95 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Paul is 37 y/o…Beverly sounds dumb ripping a 37 y/o who is asked to do way too much. He didn’t have this same energy when talking about Devin Booker’s trash performance.
@FedEx-Ty
@FedEx-Ty 2 жыл бұрын
He had some valid points but didn't articulate them very well. He isn't a professional anylist so let's not condemn him that much.
@tellall23
@tellall23 2 жыл бұрын
what did he say that was "inarticulate"? it is not rocket-science out there.
@samkellogg2805
@samkellogg2805 2 жыл бұрын
@@tellall23 “can’t guard nobody”, I don’t believe is grammatically correct
@peskypesky
@peskypesky 2 жыл бұрын
I don't always agree with Chris and Rob, but I'll take their opinion and analysis over Pat Bev any day of the week. Pat DESTROYED his credibility by saying Harden deserves a supermax contract. gtfo.
@seen3804
@seen3804 2 жыл бұрын
u believe in monkey pictures with different colors should be valuable
@pandabear1576
@pandabear1576 2 жыл бұрын
Chris and Rob don’t analyze anything. This is what you people do not understand. They debate topics. Most of their topics have nothing to do with the game of basketball just stories in basketball. There is a difference.
@kwh6769
@kwh6769 2 жыл бұрын
@@seen3804 lol 😂
@Ttcw89
@Ttcw89 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev actually plays in the NBA lol but Ya ur right… I can’t argue the point about Bev saying Harden deserves a Max contract. That made 0 sense at all and he clearly showed the true secret ‘code’ is for players to never say another player doesn’t deserve his money 💰
@stevomania12
@stevomania12 2 жыл бұрын
As a rockets fan I love pat bev. That dude is ride or die with his boys. I respect that.
@Helloim_anthony
@Helloim_anthony 2 жыл бұрын
Except when you turn into a media personality especially as a player you have to keep it real and unbiased
@billyclyde768
@billyclyde768 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you judge his choice of words then ok but he didn't say anything y'all haven't said about LBJ in his 19th year.
@CiaraITB
@CiaraITB 2 жыл бұрын
Well Pat Bev isn't an analyst. He's just a guest so his personal opinion should be expected. He has his own nuanced analysis that shouldn’t be discredited.
@cvader7
@cvader7 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! It's Pat after all, in full throttle!
@ThinkBeforeYouAct
@ThinkBeforeYouAct 2 жыл бұрын
Yea but that was clearly an audition
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, if all he's going to do is just be a dumb-down version of Stephen A. Smith and every other so-called basketball analyst who bashes players and try to create sound bites to get their names out there and not be objective and actually talk about what goes on in a game. I have no use for them in that setting.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick, Beverly got his little 15 minutes of fame on television. Good for him. Now he can go back to being a below average player with a mouth. Chris Paul is a Hall of famer in waiting. If he felt that Chris Paul was a dirty player then he should have went in on that instead of talking all of this nonsense that he said he made it personal And that's where the problem lies.
@antoinejenkins2096
@antoinejenkins2096 2 жыл бұрын
But chris paul is washed and cant win this is facts and nnone wants to say it
@Dannyyblue
@Dannyyblue 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he made it way too personal. He has some major issues with Chris Paul and it’s getting weird. I still remember how he pushed Chris Paul and made him fall. Pat Beverly is way too emotional… like he did all that whining when they beat the clippers… like dude stop and just play!!!
@ComicsLamar
@ComicsLamar 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Beverly never really had credibility like that. ESPN invited him all week just to be a hater. He’s projecting. And I don’t even like Chris Paul lol.
@nukeboy4939
@nukeboy4939 2 жыл бұрын
Fr.
@kingroyalty9621
@kingroyalty9621 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Paul is a front runner ….
@nukeboy4939
@nukeboy4939 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingroyalty9621 And Pat Bev got schooled last year in the playoffs by CP3 got his feelings hurt, now he's on ESPN lashing out. 😂
@Vhukonikm123
@Vhukonikm123 2 жыл бұрын
Pat bev was simply asking why the media are so biased with CP3. Why the media always protects him when he falls short but you destroy other players such as curry, Ben Simmons, harden etc
@soda8736
@soda8736 2 жыл бұрын
Cp3 should have been critized for overactiing to a 10 year old fan tapping his Mom's shoulder , and calling the twitter lynch mob to react to the statement " put hands ".
@itsjob595
@itsjob595 2 жыл бұрын
Just because you let people touch your mom others may not
@thirstfen
@thirstfen 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev just guaranteed himself a job after his career is over
@TheHauntedKiwi
@TheHauntedKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
Guarantee you if Chris Paul calls ESPN he gets Pat's job tomorrow. Chris Paul choked but Pat Bev is in a long line of "role player analysts that don't have long careers." Bruce Bowen, Ryan Hollins, Eric Snow. Even better players like Chris Webber. Lots of nonstar analysts come and go. Brady Quinn was an analyst until Tony Romo wanted his job.
@justincha4973
@justincha4973 2 жыл бұрын
That 🤡 would be the a dumber skip bayless
@naswiipp
@naswiipp 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHauntedKiwi nobody wants to listen to Chris Paul. Pat Bev gives that real.
@TheHauntedKiwi
@TheHauntedKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
@@naswiipp Please. You want this now, but I guarantee you as you get older and the target demo gets younger, they're going to want to put guys out there people actually know from game highlights. Most analysts that last are like Chuck or Shaq, Kenny Smith is an outlier. Greg Anthony had like 8 years before they moved on, same with Bill Walton. Its a brutal cycle to keep up with the age of the desirable (advertising wise) viewer.
@christianjames92
@christianjames92 2 жыл бұрын
You guys never played the game so how are you going to question Beverly who plays against Paul for years? You're just jorunalist. You should be extrapolating the players experience and going from there.
@yackum_3331
@yackum_3331 2 жыл бұрын
If you can't tell this clown and glorified role player Beverly is speaking from a place of pure jealousy and bitterness, you are an even bigger clown than he is
@justincha4973
@justincha4973 2 жыл бұрын
Have you played the game? Stop with that take it make no sense at all
@OhGeeGanksta
@OhGeeGanksta 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, you want players opinions? Look at all the players reactions on Twitter about how Pat Bev was being all cap.
@Hallo33able
@Hallo33able 2 жыл бұрын
Beverly and his opinions entertained me a lot
@DoronBond
@DoronBond 2 жыл бұрын
“Best in the world! Best in the world!” 😳 bruh was hilarious and the look he had on his face 🤣
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
Beverly flamed CP3 then said they blew a 3-1 lead because they ain’t have fans and he missed his Kids in the Bubble 😂. They both go out sad every year 😅
@tj2nasty4ya83
@tj2nasty4ya83 2 жыл бұрын
I mean if u only get to see ur kids in the summer n the bubble was in the summer I get that. U can't replace kids over basketball
@coolpeepsking6703
@coolpeepsking6703 2 жыл бұрын
Of course he’s going to be personal because he still in the NBA🤷🏾‍♂️🤔
@whitebelt2905
@whitebelt2905 2 жыл бұрын
Pat needs to stay away from the mike until he’s retired
@VannApragal
@VannApragal 2 жыл бұрын
Noooooo, Rob is never biased(Brady) winnk wink! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stephentripp7154
@stephentripp7154 2 жыл бұрын
*cough, cough* Lebron
@Bachaayargabar
@Bachaayargabar 2 жыл бұрын
He's not supposed to count that man's money, saying he doesn't deserve the money could potentially cut his money, they are in the same Money market, that would be counter productive. Set the bar high.
@sirjer73
@sirjer73 2 жыл бұрын
The 6ers don't give a damn what Pat Beverly think or any other outside players opinion, about their team. Any one with anytype of vision can see the decline in Hardens play.
@TheHauntedKiwi
@TheHauntedKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real now, Patrick Beverley is not really a player that teams focus on in free agency. He's an MLE guy at best, Vet min at worst. I don't think teams are going to be choosing between him or Chris.
@MosheXX
@MosheXX 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHauntedKiwi I don’t think you understand what the original comment was alluding to. From an average players perspective you want the best players to get the most money because a rising tide lifts all boats. It just increases what a role player can get down the line in future CBA’s. Yes Pat Bev is in the MLE range but the higher the salaries on average the higher the MLE will be.
@elai3147
@elai3147 2 жыл бұрын
current player would never say another doesn't deserve money, max or not
@marksylvain2839
@marksylvain2839 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 200%, it's one thing to hate on Chris Paul game, but these guys know as a current player you never talk about another man's 💰
@elai3147
@elai3147 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksylvain2839 should have asked bev whether cp3 deserves his max money after losing game 7, he would still suck it up and say absolutely
@marksylvain2839
@marksylvain2839 2 жыл бұрын
@@elai3147 that's the vibe I got from him also
@lagosfury5142
@lagosfury5142 2 жыл бұрын
Nah...NBA players dont talk publicly about each other like that..I guarantee you his peers in the NBA didnt like it one bit
@earlrobiii
@earlrobiii 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care what y'all say. Pat Bev was awesome on all those platforms. That's why they brought him back! I loved it!!!!
@benaiahknox7759
@benaiahknox7759 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Beverley like what Martin said he's a little comedian 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@Tl-mh7gq
@Tl-mh7gq 2 жыл бұрын
I got a huge point to make for harden. How come Chris Paul sign super max. He never average 22-10-8. Paul George don’t neither
@itsjob595
@itsjob595 2 жыл бұрын
I would take either of them over Harden right now
@Tl-mh7gq
@Tl-mh7gq 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsjob595 Chris Paul never in his career average 22-10-8
@mikemills4007
@mikemills4007 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they would be saying this if Pat Bev decided to go on the Odd Couple and say all of this. Considering the views and attention it would get, I highly doubt it!
@FATHERSOFBASS
@FATHERSOFBASS 2 жыл бұрын
Bev sucks
@hunterzolomon1303
@hunterzolomon1303 2 жыл бұрын
They would bro, they would challenge him on the show
@qbangamerr5871
@qbangamerr5871 2 жыл бұрын
Chris calls out skip, a lifetime analyst on his own undisputed multiple times and he won't call out bev on his own show? Hard to believe
@mikemills4007
@mikemills4007 2 жыл бұрын
@@qbangamerr5871 calls out skip? Hardly. He laughs at his crazy remarks and entertains his stupidity. He hasn’t legitimately called him out since the ESPN days
@tonkotsuramen4206
@tonkotsuramen4206 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev lost his credibility not on his CP3 take, but his defense for Harden’s super max.
@ethanabraham6830
@ethanabraham6830 2 жыл бұрын
They were questioning whether or not Tom Brady had the IT factor on TV, Pat Bev has the IT factor on TV
@ronaldroberts9555
@ronaldroberts9555 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not like he doesn’t have a point. The way everyone treats CP vs how they treat Westbrook for example is night and day. They both haven’t gotten it done but over the course of their careers the media coverage has been vastly different. Pat Bev just used the wrong players for his example
@Kingbossdon
@Kingbossdon 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong example to use with Russell Westbrook like he hasn't been the same since KD left yea he put up the numbers but, he only been outta the 1st round once since KD left
@coreyking5619
@coreyking5619 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah CB hit it right on the head. Beverly is just a loudmouth who can’t intelligently back up his absurd takes.
@kingtshilobo1849
@kingtshilobo1849 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why ESPN brought him back. I mean it was just perfect timing. But I think the players are mad at him for calling CP3 a cone. But yeah CP3 doesn’t get a lot of heat for a Point god
@antoinejenkins2096
@antoinejenkins2096 2 жыл бұрын
Cp3 was trashhhhhhhhhhhhhh and noone wants to call him out
@Avenue77
@Avenue77 2 жыл бұрын
ESPN was trying to get them ratings and they nailed it yo
@LurnWell
@LurnWell 2 жыл бұрын
He does get heat. They knock him and say he's getting too old every year. 🙄
@pandabear1576
@pandabear1576 2 жыл бұрын
@@LurnWell that’s minimal heat. It’s just a factual statement. The most heat he’s gotten in 3 years was, “well I wouldn’t pay an ageing point guard under 6’0 200M dollars. That’s it? For harden or Russell it would’ve been “these guys are garbage now! They don’t have what it takes and never did!”
@kingtshilobo1849
@kingtshilobo1849 2 жыл бұрын
@@LurnWell what heat? Doc is the one getting flamed for blowing up that 3-1 lead with that lob city team.
@Tonio5100
@Tonio5100 2 жыл бұрын
So I guess EVERYONE forgot the game when Chris Paul TORCHED Pat Bev so bad that Pat Bev pushed Chris in the back just because he was GETTING BUCKETS on Pat Bev on his way to the finals..... THATS where the slander comes from
@THEBIGFISHNEMO
@THEBIGFISHNEMO 2 жыл бұрын
@Tonio5100 tell me what Pat lied about ????? Your talking about games in the past. He’s talking about his last series.
@cooper5431
@cooper5431 2 жыл бұрын
Two dudes who never played varsity high school ball talking about a nba player losing all credibility on his first day ... ☠️ im just glad stephen a is still putting my boy pbev out there to keep these media dudes accountable
@freshforeman6071
@freshforeman6071 2 жыл бұрын
He ain't lie about cp3 not getting enough slander for his playoff runs
@cvader7
@cvader7 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Beverley Lost Credibility - nonsense! Its just a personal hit, I get that...By next week this is just news! Patrick Beverley Lost Credibility to you..Patrick Beverley is actually the most outspoken on the panel and brings a lotta truth!
@deonrichardson5250
@deonrichardson5250 2 жыл бұрын
Pat said this with CP3 goes way back to when they were young.
@everettyoung6596
@everettyoung6596 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev is probably a terrible poker player. He thought he was being neutral and sophisticated. Lol smh
@anthonytaylor7928
@anthonytaylor7928 2 жыл бұрын
Watch everybody gonna steal that cone reference that's a good one
@bennybos5733
@bennybos5733 2 жыл бұрын
Skip and shannon are also not objective...
@DFW817
@DFW817 2 жыл бұрын
He loses no credibility. He said the truth and it’s hurting ESPN’s little political feelings. He said he gets calls cause he’s the president of the players association, fact. He said y’all don’t cut other players slack for downfalls, so why not him too? Fact. ESPN is so far left in their political views now and can say whatever they want. But when it is said back to them. They can’t handle it. Smh
@poorhouz5051
@poorhouz5051 2 жыл бұрын
I think former players be lying on TV. And some of them don't even watched the games. LOL Right Shaq... LMAO
@clsupreme7408
@clsupreme7408 2 жыл бұрын
I think Chris forgot he was on camera 4 a while 😂🤣
@tiredofwinning2712
@tiredofwinning2712 2 жыл бұрын
Rob parker lost his credibility a decade ago. He is the one that knows this the best.
@stoniestarks3970
@stoniestarks3970 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Paul is number 6 in my top ten pg of all time he isn’t top 5 and James had one bad year and now he’s trash? The media is crazy he was in MVP conversation last season
@pitoseavy4523
@pitoseavy4523 2 жыл бұрын
Ya pat bev never said harden top 10 rn he said he would give him the max tho 2 different conversations
@ason619
@ason619 2 жыл бұрын
James harden sucks
@stoniestarks3970
@stoniestarks3970 2 жыл бұрын
@@pitoseavy4523 I’m not saying Harden is top anything I’m just saying he does deserve top money for the caliber player he is
@stoniestarks3970
@stoniestarks3970 2 жыл бұрын
@@pitoseavy4523 definitely agree
@jmoney4220
@jmoney4220 2 жыл бұрын
Cp3 is so clearly and easily top 5. He’s clearly top 3
@johnmosman1
@johnmosman1 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when athletes take the mic and become analysts, but Patrick Beverley (so far) has been atrocious. No personality, no nuance to his opinions, insecure... For example, he was asked who he would rather guard, Steph or Luka. His response was, "It doesn't matter, I'm going to find a way to be successful against either one." That's a great response in a post-game interview. It's a terrible response if you're an analyst. You gotta be aware enough to answer the question that's not being asked. The question within the question was more than who he would rather guard, it was a prompt for him to compare two very different players and what makes each of them special. Anyway, he dropped the ball on multiple occasions. He's got a long way to go, IMO.
@iltercio
@iltercio 2 жыл бұрын
He WON credibility in my eyes 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@coreydon7097
@coreydon7097 2 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with what Pat Bev said. He has a right to voice his opinion and people have rights to criticize his opinion, that's the way it works. Also why is the media always in players pockets when it comes to their contracts like it's their money
@rickyrobby8133
@rickyrobby8133 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think a worse player talking about a better player matters. Most of the sports talk show people couldn’t even play college sports, let alone being professionals.
@VannApragal
@VannApragal 2 жыл бұрын
the writers and reporters are never ever ever biased in their opinions. 🤣🤣😳😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jrm2254
@jrm2254 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Love it when they throw around that word: “Objectivity”….Come on now. That sh*t died a long time ago 😂
@mrlogick1098
@mrlogick1098 2 жыл бұрын
If you’ve ever given Pat Beverly credit , you were a fool to begin with. Watch dude play and listen to him talk you can tell the engines running but nobody is driving,
@clutchchozen_yt1942
@clutchchozen_yt1942 2 жыл бұрын
Love the show gents but didn’t do your homework on this one. Pat Bev was being specific on the series not Cp3 whole career. A lot of emotions went into this take. He was spot on about how cp3 performs in late playoff runs.
@ericbutler1557
@ericbutler1557 2 жыл бұрын
Na. He talked about the failings across his entire career.
@trappp6304
@trappp6304 2 жыл бұрын
You totally wrong , shut up
@williep2445
@williep2445 2 жыл бұрын
I too wanna say you guys do a phenomenal job. And I love the show!
@ryansantos111
@ryansantos111 2 жыл бұрын
Cold Pizza lasted 3 seasons what joke🤡
@brooklynopinion2946
@brooklynopinion2946 2 жыл бұрын
Beverly lost credibility wen he said harden deserves the super max right now
@latashajones8933
@latashajones8933 2 жыл бұрын
I like Pate and Draymond on tv or podcast because they actually plays the game.
@IWill_iTV
@IWill_iTV 2 жыл бұрын
Bring out the toothpick and the sweet tea with the refrigerator ice it’s about to go down!!
@tanyasalas2763
@tanyasalas2763 2 жыл бұрын
Drill sergeant to beverly, "what is your major malfunction numnuts...didn't mommy & daddy show you enough attention when you were a child"..😁😁😁
@shep1582
@shep1582 2 жыл бұрын
I also need to be fair too, I think you both did a great job presenting this issue especially the "you never played" idiotic statement. Keep up the great work!! This was a good, worthwhile discussion!
@antoinejenkins2096
@antoinejenkins2096 2 жыл бұрын
They are biased parker hates lebron
@jg3gc
@jg3gc 2 жыл бұрын
​@@antoinejenkins2096 He still has lebron at 2nd all time, unlike some former players who don't even have lebron in their top 10. The media is biased but lets not act like players aren't just as biased
@georgegoble6054
@georgegoble6054 2 жыл бұрын
he's fresh and opinionated, excellent, he's right they shouldve benched Paul he sucked, Bev said it I didnt hear anyone else say it and he's totally right, his opinion about Hardens contract wont impact the outcome of Hardens deal, Lebron's true value is 75 mil/yr but union deal doesnt allow him to have it Giannis should make 100 mil a year
@everlastingomni1737
@everlastingomni1737 2 жыл бұрын
You never played is a fact
@tharealest8190
@tharealest8190 2 жыл бұрын
@@jg3gc yea he ‘claims’ he has Lebron at number 2 on his list but dogs him EVERY CHANCE he gets and talks about him like he’s number ten thousand on his list
@thebxsavage
@thebxsavage 2 жыл бұрын
He lost credibility to y'all maybe. Pat is right, I've never seen someone be so protected from scrutiny like Chris Paul because he's the President of the Players Association. ONE MAN criticizes him and "it's gone too far" 🤣
@robclassified2280
@robclassified2280 2 жыл бұрын
He’s no longer the president that’s the first thing. The second is who protects him? Also CP3 is a HOF and a 9X all defensive 1st team guy. Matt Barnes got on him calling him a clown.
@thebxsavage
@thebxsavage 2 жыл бұрын
@@robclassified2280 by not talking about it like they chose to do when other players do something (LeBron, Russ, If KD tweets, etc). They come up with the segments and questions for every show every day. Covering the Lakers everyday whether they are first or last in the conference is a conscious choice. So is NOT covering or picking apart something that’s negative.
@thebxsavage
@thebxsavage 2 жыл бұрын
@@robclassified2280 of course CP3 is a HoF guy. These guys (the odd couple) misrepresented what Pat said. THE VERY FIRST THING HE SAID was that CP3 was a all time great going straight to the HOF. I watched the segment myself and I can post the link if you’d like. 👍🏾
@jrm2254
@jrm2254 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev did say that C.Paul is a HOF, so that’s an obvious acknowledgment of Paul’s accomplishments. But in context of Paul’s failures in the playoffs, the criticism is justified…Maybe the “wording” used by PBev came out wrong for many of these buddy-buddy mainstream media people.
@robclassified2280
@robclassified2280 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrm2254 it came out that he’s a certified hater and has personal issues with CP3. Name one small guard other than isiah that has lead a team to a ring. It doesn’t happen that’s why the criticism isn’t as strong for him because of his actual physical stature along with history. Also CP3 isn’t a top tier guy like a bron , KD, harden , giannis etc..... why would guys just go on tv and blast him. That would make no sense
@andypandy6652
@andypandy6652 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Broussard was flossing 🤣 during the show
@DavidThompson-lm3tb
@DavidThompson-lm3tb 2 жыл бұрын
Guys who never played trying to discredit actual nba players is absolutely ridiculous!!
@GunninRebel55
@GunninRebel55 2 жыл бұрын
1st, when did Beverly ever have credibility? 2nd, Rob Parker acts like he’s a media star but he’s just along for the ride. Take Broussard off this show and literally no one would watch it. They always put a very good analyst who is likable with a bum. Stephen A had to carry Bayless, Sharpe Carries Bayless now, and Broussard, who has real credibility & sports knowledge, is carrying Parker who doesn’t. CB’s on every show. Why u think Rob’s never invited? 🤔😂
@upgr8king
@upgr8king 2 жыл бұрын
I like what Pat Bev has to say , he has the right to have his opinion on a basketball take. He also plays hard and knows his role
@gregthafinneser1875
@gregthafinneser1875 2 жыл бұрын
they’re mad players are coming into their space lmao
@fullmetal1766
@fullmetal1766 2 жыл бұрын
Chris isn't a top 10 PG of all time his numbers are inflated and he's played with great players and always come up small every single time
@sjsupa
@sjsupa 2 жыл бұрын
Please,Harden and CP3 were 2 different cases in Bev's discussion. In Harden, Bev was talking about the money; in CP3, Bev was talking about BB performance. He just wanted player to earn as much money as possible. That is why he said D Green should be super Max even though Green wasn't.
@the_attic_woodworker
@the_attic_woodworker 2 жыл бұрын
And btw, Fox's top guy is Skip Bayless, the least objective guy in history
@simplyluis6548
@simplyluis6548 2 жыл бұрын
I can't stomach Skip anymore. His hypocrisy is disgusting.
@QuEsT_X
@QuEsT_X 2 жыл бұрын
I detect alot of jealousy from these two because they see pat bev and jj would be the Perfect odd couple !
@greggibson33
@greggibson33 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Bev is like human Twitter.... all negative snark with no back up. Do we really need more of this? And his Harden take was a joke.... next.
@soda8736
@soda8736 2 жыл бұрын
He had no substance to back up his Harden take.
@sivervipa
@sivervipa 2 жыл бұрын
But you touched on the most important part early on in the video. The ratings and engagement were high and to be honest...that's all that matters to any network especially ESPN.
@deepeyton
@deepeyton 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile he’s claiming Harden deserves a super max.. that boy a clown and clearly tryna suck up his way to another contract in Philly
@andrejoseph8004
@andrejoseph8004 2 жыл бұрын
Chris is really flossing his teeth while doing the broadcast? LOL
@anthonydaniels5910
@anthonydaniels5910 2 жыл бұрын
This drives me crazy, it distracts from a good segment
@Pashya1
@Pashya1 2 жыл бұрын
It's not too late for Fox Sports to get in on the Patrick Beverly action.
@johnpang3350
@johnpang3350 2 жыл бұрын
Cmon guys, stop it...everybody can speak up and criticized people... Chris Paul have to have a chip.. 👌
@REBELSTAR2012
@REBELSTAR2012 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Beverley look like Wyclef Jean after a cop pursuit 🚔
@Loveoverhate_
@Loveoverhate_ 2 жыл бұрын
Trade CP3 for Tony Parker and CP3 has his rings and Tony has 0.
@TheHauntedKiwi
@TheHauntedKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
Parker was good but he was a bus rider. Duncan was top 10 all time and top 2 with Kobe in the 2000s.
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored 2 жыл бұрын
Many would have rings if they played with Duncan's Spurs...that is a bad argument...Duncan's Spurs won rings BEFORE Tony Parker
@Loveoverhate_
@Loveoverhate_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@truthiscensored what makes it a bad argument? It’s all situational. This year and last year was the only 2 times in CP3 career where people actually thought he could win.
@abelnightroad5162
@abelnightroad5162 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny when this two who are sooo biased on many players talk how Pat Bev is biased. Rob literally hates Lebron, Tom Brady, He made his career by hating him.
@paulrandolph616
@paulrandolph616 2 жыл бұрын
Old butt hugging Chris in his feelings cause pat bev doing his job better than him .. with the truth
@bam2xl14
@bam2xl14 2 жыл бұрын
After he said harden should get a max deal I haven’t clicked on anything with him on it.
@the5-starreview871
@the5-starreview871 2 жыл бұрын
Rob said it better than I could have. We love Charles Barkley for his honesty.
@howisthatgay4275
@howisthatgay4275 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from the guy who said Brady won’t win a SB beyond 2009. Smh
@tolopo99
@tolopo99 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the professionalism and experience you both bring in the sports journalism arena. The trend of giving a public platform for past and current sports stars for biased commentary is growing out of control. Continue keeping to your journalistic roots. Keep the personal rants to Twitter and Instagram
@JoeMapes
@JoeMapes 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying Beverly is wrong, but I'd have my head on a swivel come next year on court. Players are tight in the league and when one is dissed, their friends will have CP3 back.
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