M4 Pro Mac Mini - This changes EVERYTHING!

[@TylerGeorge18]

That Mac mini case is sick! I commented a couple weeks ago asking you if I should get the base model Mac mini and when it was delivered, I haven't been happier. This thing rocks through 4K video and all the college work I do. Thank you for the help!!!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man! The base model is absolutely fantastic value for money.

[@SpaceDoodle2008]

The case also solves the power button issue

[@jimcoon]

I’m 71 years old and working off a 2019 iMac 27-in. Been running into a few issues with FCP quitting and Lightroom glitches. So, after watching your video I ordered the same Mac Mini 4Pro that you ordered minus the 10GB ethernet. And that’s because I forgot to select that. I do upload a fair number of videos that I create for my farm and ranch brokerage business, so I wish I had asked for that. Oh well. Thanks for your great content and it helped me to select what is likely to be my last Mac. I subscribed and look forward to more of your well-presented contend. Jim in Oregon

[@PatrickRambles]

Thank you Jim, much appreciated!

[@spaceghost3344]

It really depends on what you’re uploading to and what capabilities that has. Thunderbolt 4 or 5 USB C port could get you much faster speeds. If you’re uploading to cloud storage or KZbin, you’d be bottlenecked with your ISP. The 10GB Ethernet would really only benefit with a local network storage that doesn’t have Thunderbolt or is physically far from your Mac mini

[@jimcoon]

@@spaceghost3344 Thank you so much for taking the time to write this kind and informative reply. I know you didn't have to do this, and it was very helpful to me. Jim

[@davidabbott1734]

I'm 78 and thinking this will be the last computer I buy also. I have a 2017 27" iMax that runs perfectly, but Photoshop is popping up messages saying it's too old and can't run all the new things they've added. Right now I'm suffering with analysis paralysis between the base model Mac Mini, a maxed out one or the new iMac. I'm leaning towards a Mac mini M4 Pro with 48 GB and 1 Tb. My iMac has served me for almost 8 years, and if my new Max Mini lasts as long, it will probably out live me.

[@PatrickRambles]

Ah David, 78 is young these days. You have at least three more generations of silicon to go 💪😤. That pro M4 spec you mentioned will last you a long time.

[@erochas]

I do graphic design, motion graphics and photography and I'm about to get me one of these for Xmas, so... Thank you so much for the heads up. You rock.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man!

[@zakeller]

4:02 “I’m not going to run any synthetic benchmarks” Followed immediately by back to back bandwidth and storage synthetic benchmarks after the sponsor reads. Just a little friendly roast. Very grateful for yor focus on the 64gb 14/20 Pro. Most other reviews are comparing that base M4 to the base M4 Pro; whereas I’m looking at this exact spec.

[@PappaMike-vc1qv]

I think the M4 Studio will be more bang for the buck. The maxed out mini is a powerhouse for sure but gets really expensive when upgrades are added in.

[@PatrickRambles]

I'm sure the studio will be insane! Honestly, it's mostly the storage that is super expensive, I think the TB5 solution saves a lot of money and a maxed out mini is enough for almost anyone. Still looking forward to that Studio though 😅

[@musiccreation1198]

For video, 3D work, sure, the M4 Mac Studio configs will be great value. For audio work, definitely not worth it for me.

[@glennsan1998]

I agree, but if you need something now, I think this is a valuable option and quite frankly I’m not sure for me personally the studio would really be that much more of a value. I mainly do light video editing, but it’s gaming where I really desperately wanna get rid of my desktop PCand if if this like Patrick showed can play in a decent enough games I am excited about that as well.

[@xray2785]

Spot on! If you can wait until the M4 series Mac Studios are launched, I think they will provide much better value for money than a fully spec’s out M4 Mac mini. My suspicion is that a M4 Pro Mac mini spec’d out to have the same amount of storage and unified memory as an entry M4 Mac Studio will be similarly priced to the entry level Mac Studio, except for the entry-level M4 Mac studio will come with an M4 Max chip, as compared to the M4 Pro chip in the Mac Mini. In other words, you’ll get the upgrade from M4 Pro chip to M4 Max chip for free, as well as additional I/O and an even better cooling system. I could be wrong of course, however that’s my prediction, therefore I will be waiting for the new Mac Studios to launch next year. In the meantime, I may buy an entry-level M4 MaC Mini to keep me occupied in the meantime!

[@KatyInNH]

@@glennsan1998

[@77dris]

I was surprised that you said the mini is nearly silent. I've heard so many people complain that they make a lot of noise when under full load.

[@PatrickRambles]

I haven't heard it go over silent humming yet. I did max out the specs, maybe it doesn't need to work as hard for most things.

[@sgtaneja]

​​@@PatrickRambles The base M4 Mac mini might get thermally challanged with relatively heavy workloads, but NOT a custom upgrade , nearly fully spec'ed out variant of an M4 Pro Mac Mini 14 core CPU, 20 core GPU, which supports higher memory bandwidth and higher SSD bandwidth compared to the M4 Mac mini, in conjunction with RAM upgrades 48GB-64GB and SSD upgrades 1TB - 2TB. Further the 14 core CPU variant of the M4 Pro Mac mini with its 10 performance cores has performed much better than M3 Max and M2 Ultra in multiple CPU performance benchmarking tests with similar RAM and SSD capacity, and that's because of superior M4 Pro 14 core CPU (10P+4E) performance relative to M3 Max and M2 Ultra's CPU performance. However, on GPU performance, M3 Max / M2 Ultra were far superior owing to their higher GPU bandwidth.

[@tbirdparis]

@@sgtaneja the M3 Max and M2 Ultra have far more GPU cores, that's why they generally beat out the M4 Pro chip in GPU performance, not because of memory bandwidth.

[@MasterYodaJEDI4]

Just bought mine! Top spec M4 Pro, 64Gb unified, 2Tb storage. It is going to replace my 2017 4.2Ghz i7 iMac. Going to MSI G32C4X monitor.

[@TheZazatv]

That setup looks pretty nice ^^ a little power beast and the cutest mac ever

[@sglatitude]

2:10 That MacMini case looks incredible! I really wish it was available for purchase online-not everyone has access to a 3D printer.

[@PatrickRambles]

That would be great, I agree.

[@TheZazatv]

Usually u can find some offers to print out 3d cads. I guess u just gotta search

[@ricarmig]

@@PatrickRambleswhere did you find the 3D file to print?

[@PatrickRambles]

@ricarmig it's in the description.

[@richardllewellynme]

Depending on where you are in the world, there are quite a few online printing services. I've used a couple before and they've been great. I think Shapeways is one of the popular ones.

[@jeromederouette2922]

the mac mini pro enclosure is SICK!!!

[@PatrickRambles]

👊

[@janeS9773]

Loved this video Patrick! Your energy and enthusiasm is contagious and we need that right now in the U.S. :)))))

[@PatrickRambles]

Aw thanks Jane!

[@aaronmelson2887]

I have my first mac that i purchased in July this year (2024). It's the MacBook pro 16 m3 max 16 core CPU, 40 GPU 64gb of ram and 2tb of storage in space black. This thing was massively expensive but I have been thinking of a mac since 2021 and have been saving just in case I might want one. Its a beast of a machine and while I like the fact the M4 is faster, this M3 max is no joke. I have NEVER heard the fans kick on not once since I have owned it. I don't do a lot of heavy usage on my machine but I wanted to future proof myself. I really like this computer. But I am still watching any video about any new chip mac computer.

[@mylesnmore]

I have a macbook pro 16-inch i9 8 core, 8gb GPU and 64g of ram from 2019 and it's still going well after all these years. I'm only now having problems w Premiere audio AI tools crashing my machine, but everything else i do is fine. These are solid machines that are expensive but last a long time. You made a solid investment for years to come (esp if you use for heavy workloads like video editing)

[@PatrickRambles]

There will always be something newer and better on the horizon but your machine is a beast, should last you quite a few good years!

[@sidensvans67]

The mac mini tower is wicked .

[@bobapatt2204]

Awesome video Patrick 💪🏻 Great info and that mini case is stunning. Keep up the good work.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks a ton!

[@JohnWi11is]

Amazing video!! One of the best reviews I've seen of this device!! I'm ordering this spec and the external OWC SSD

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man 🙏🏻

[@Samlol23_drrich]

​@@PatrickRamblesthose OWCs are backordered until end of January already. Great video.

[@rtacher]

Great video Patrick. I got the base model and repurposed a IMAC 27 in as a monitor so I have a make believe studio display at 5k haha. Works great!😊

[@PatrickRambles]

Haha nice! The base model is amazing

[@pyroBlastM]

I have got a 5K retina 27inch iMac and would like to repurpose it. How did you do it ? Can you point me in the right direction?

[@sandiameen8812]

I have been waiting for this kind of review🎉

[@PatrickRambles]

❤️

[@whome9936]

Dude has a ~$9K MacBook. Apple loves him like family.

[@PatrickRambles]

Perils of living in Europe. We pay premium

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

KZbinrs can afford it.

[@geekdomo]

Thanks for doing this vid. I am just starting watching but I bought the top spec as well and curious how it performs. Here we go...

[@PatrickRambles]

🤝

[@jimcabezola3051]

Of all things...the Thunderbolt 5 ports on your M4 Pro are VERY tempting to me... I wanna run one of those beauties with a Thunderbolt 5 drive... ...but...I'm still tempted by that $699 price point to buy a base M4 Mac and use that with my existing Thunderbolt 3 drive and see what happens. The Thunderbolt 4 ports on that machine should be happy to connect to my Thunderbolt 3 drive (I think the data transfer speeds are roughly the same for Thunderbolt 3 and 4). That $699 is just too good to pass up! KZbinrs are really enthusiastic over the topic of running Apple Silicon machines from external drives. I can tell you from personal experience that I've tried it with my 8GB/256GB M1 Mac MIni, an old Thunderbolt 3 enclosure and an old NVME drive from a dusty, old Acer desktop. It's LIBERATING to run the bootup, home folder, apps, and data from one of my base M1 Mac Minis WITHOUT having to even care about the 256GB onboard storage!!! Sure...the benchmarks say it's slower, but my 60+ year-old nervous system can't reliably PERCEIVE the difference under my very average suite of very average applications. To my old eyes and ears, web-browsing, KZbin, music playing, video watching and such are not affected by essentially booting Apple Silicon off a Thunderbolt 3 drive. Try it for yourself with some of your old legacy Apple Silcon (Please...on not your day-to-day moneymaker machines! You and your dear and wonderful family have to eat!). CAUTION! I've heard that the new Apple Intelligence features in macOS 15.1.1 won't run with the external bootup system I use. By sheer accident...I may have dodged a bullet. One of my two Mac Minis is a dual-boot Asahi Linux machine, and the Apple Intelligence partition has no problem sitting alongside Linux. My SECOND M1 Mac Mini running the external bootup is STILL running the barebones (unintelligent?) macOS 15. Whew! For now, I'm still having fun with this "bigger" M1 storage, so I'm avoiding problems by ignoring that tiny, little red dot on the corner of the App Store icon...😆 Beware! No matter what, though...I agree it's a really exciting time for Apple Macs! Aloha!

[@Stealth1986]

I recently found your channel and I’m enjoying the content so far. Keep it up! I’ve considered getting the exact specifications that you got, but I am pretty satisfied with what I have with the M2 Pro Mac Mini. Glad you made this video, though. Thank you for this!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man, I appreciate that 👊

[@labtec71]

Good Reviews...I am about to get one for myself...!

[@PatrickRambles]

Nice!

[@philipgeorge301]

Can you do an in-depth comparison between the m2 pro Mac mini and the new m4 pro Mac mini? I'm curious to see how much of a performance jump there is between the 2 generations

[@jtcurcillo]

For photo editing (not video) large files 47-60mb will 48ram be enough and should I upgrade the chip?

[@ddschur]

How do I purchase one of the 3d printed enclosures you showed from Dennis?

[@PatrickRambles]

I don't think he sells them, but the link to the design is in the description!

[@ddschur]

@@PatrickRambles ok…I didn’t see the link.

[@Jason_N_Paradise]

You can never not have enough studio displays! 😆😍 The setup is 🤌🔥

[@PatrickRambles]

🙌🙌🙌

[@lucasmaccloud]

Love this video! Great channel and very nice to eye and ear! Really well done, Patrick! Subscribed and can't wait to see more! xx

[@PatrickRambles]

Awesome, thank you!

[@chevymusclecar1970]

Would you know if the 512ssd has slower read/write speeds than the 1tb, etc?

[@nikkithuillier5519]

Subscribed and liked, excellent real world review. Thank you.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@yinoveryang4246]

Patrick, You should seriously do more gaming related videos. (With the new macs this is going to be an expanding aarea of interest, you may get a lot of views). One focusing on various ways of porting PC games to Mac, how to get the best performance. Massive potential audience for this, a whole new market could open up for Apple.

[@eavesphoto]

Patric, what calibrator and software are you using to color calibrate the Apple studio monitors for an Adobe 1998 color space? Apples displays are notoriously bright. I just wanna know if you’re bringing your screen brightness down to halfway or so for color calibration.

[@PatrickRambles]

Hey! I find the colors out of the box pretty good. But for calibration, I use a calibrite color checker.

[@railwaystationmaster]

where can I buy a 3D printed out of metal Mac Pro case for this Mac mini ?

[@PatrickRambles]

The link to the design is in the description. It's not metal though :)

[@universalvibe72]

Yes you can upgrade the SSD on the Mac mini M4 and M4 Pro. They each have different NAND board size footprints however it's been widely documented this is doable.

[@PatrickRambles]

You can dismantle the device and physically remove the SSD, that doesn't mean it's meant to be replaced.

[@gilesl]

I'm considering same spec for mini for Pro Tools work

[@GarCapital]

The Mx mouse so true! Best Bluetooth mouse available! Great video mate!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks!

[@PhillipLearnTeach]

Do you have a name for that computer stand you removed. I like it. Can you tell me what model it was? It was from time 2:32

[@PatrickRambles]

It's also from Grovemade, just a different size and color.

[@PhillipLearnTeach]

@@PatrickRambles Thanks a lot.

[@mcmspark]

How did you get witcher3 to work at all? I have the MacBook Pro M3 pro Max and follow online advice for steam and crossover and it crashes every time even in direct 11.

[@PatrickRambles]

I don't know, it just worked fine straight away at those settings 🤷‍♂️.

[@polee2004]

Thank you for this review. I am thinking of getting this instead of the M4Pro MacBook Pro base model but am now undecided!

[@PatrickRambles]

What's your pros and cons list?

[@polee2004]

@@PatrickRambles I have always owned MacBooks and only have a basic Dell monitor (used an additional monitor) which means I would have get a new monitor if I were to buy a MacMini. The price point however makes these new MacMinis very attractive even if I were to buy a new monitor. So I leaning towards the MacMinis and may decide to get them soon.

[@hynekd]

Fantastic video!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks!

[@mayori-engineering-hub]

What happen with the mouse , can you add the link for the mouse

[@tbirdvet]

I saw a test of the OWC TB5 drive and it appears the speed falls off significantly when transferring large files almost not any faster than a TB4 drive. Kind of disappointing.

[@PatrickRambles]

Hey, where did you see that? Can't say I've noticed the same. One of the most important things for me is being able to edit straight from the drive without slowdowns. So far it's excellent, but I'll definitely report back for my next review.

[@ErikBiskopst]

@@PatrickRambles Does the disk get hot?

[@touchtennis]

Great video mate. Insane set up. Just missing 6 screens! 😅

[@PatrickRambles]

Haha

[@Isengardtom]

Nice video Patrick Is that iMac also an M4?

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks! Its the previous model.

[@bryans8656]

Great review, as always. Apple really knocked it out of the park with their new Minis. I've got the base model, which meets my needs nicely, but that Pro is droolworthy.

[@PatrickRambles]

The base model is the best value for money and if it works for you, it's a killer purchase 👌

[@bryans8656]

@@PatrickRambles Yep!

[@BeesonsCars]

The chrome tab test would be nice to see if the M4 Pro Mini was using any more swap memory than the MacBook Pro.

[@PatrickRambles]

Good point. Noted.

[@SteveHinrichs]

I just wished that Apple would have stepped it up with their other products like the phone and iPad. That is crazy what they have done with the mini line. Thanks for the reviews. They are help a lot of people to make sound decisions.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks Steve! Yes I wish they'd made similar leaps for iphone and iPad. Perhaps next year 🤞

[@BlueFalconJeeping]

Great Video!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks!

[@johnz4412]

As a photographer editing the largest Nikon RAW files, with PS and LR running at the same time, do you think 24GB of memory is completely sufficient on the Pro, or do I need to spend $400 and jump up to 48GB? Thanks for your thoughts. Love your reviews!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks John! 24 should do for most things but personally I'd upgrade, especially if you plan to keep it for some years to come.

[@johnz4412]

@@PatrickRambles Thanks for the tip!

[@fonsie3029]

Good video, very informative

[@PatrickRambles]

🙏🏻

[@-windycitysammy-]

Fantastic video! Thank you. New Sub!

[@PatrickRambles]

Welcome!

[@MarkLewis-l3f]

This is the review I was looking for. Most of these M4 Mini reviews focus on the base model or compare the Pro to the base & brag on the $599 price tag. I need a machine that smoothly runs Davince Resolve for 8k video & can be a workhourse for a few years. I was especially glad to hear this doesn't run hot...how I don' t know at that size. Also...shout out for the 3:10 shot in the background of the '80's version grey scale Mac with it's floppy drive. I got through grad school on that thing...$300 used. 🤣

[@PatrickRambles]

Haha that old Macintosh is a thing of beauty and nostalgia 😅. The M4 base model is great for the money, but as you said, when you need some more oomph, this Pro is the way to go 💪

[@nguyenkien5837]

I would buy the xdr display for the mac mini

[@PatrickRambles]

You can buy 10 base model Mac Minis for that (without the stand) 😅

[@cheongit]

Did U try live video editing via the 10 Gbit LAN port?

[@PatrickRambles]

Not yet!

[@claudiameier666]

but whats its power equivalent i was looking at a lenovo mini pc i9 and 80 gigs of ram and two terybytes of storage. around the same price

[@PatrickRambles]

Same size too? 😅

[@inquisitive2098]

Is it possible to connect the Mac mini to any of the older m series imacs using some cable (idk which would work)?? I love the imac and want to purchase one but I also wish to use the display in the future with a Mac mini once the imac gets old. Thank you! Love your videos!!

[@PatrickRambles]

@rtacher down in the comments seems to have made this work. I haven't looked into it myself.

[@inquisitive2098]

​@@PatrickRamblesI just read their comment. With Intel imacs it seems to be possible, I have seen a few yt videos on it but I haven't come across any connecting the Mac mini to an m series chip imac. Hopefully someone does try it and share their insights. Thank you for your reply.

[@PatrickRambles]

@inquisitive2098 I didn't think it would be possible. Now I'm cusious 😂

[@inquisitive2098]

@@PatrickRambles if you do give it a go please do let us know!

[@PatrickRambles]

Will do

[@hiveschool]

Who makes those Acoustic panels behind your desk?

[@PatrickRambles]

GIK Acoustics.

[@hiveschool]

@@PatrickRamblesthank you.

[@musiccreation1198]

Great review / tests. For a monitor, BenQ MA320U is really, really hard to beat.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks! PD series is great for Macs too.

[@gap9992]

I got the MA270U to go with my new M4 Mini. Compared to the 27" 5k Retina display on the iMac it replaced, I am more than happy with text sharpness but KZbin videos look 'softer' almost a bit blurry. I wonder if that's to do with the mat screen vs glossy? It looks like the soft lens that movie makers use for aging stars!!

[@zachwarner7164]

is base m4 a rip off? I ordered base m4 and base m4 pro and just factory setting the m4 pro...

[@PatrickRambles]

Not at all, I think the base model is great value for money.

[@zachwarner7164]

​@@PatrickRambles Thank you, I figure save the money, and if i need any heavy renders, just plug the ssd into my 4090 gaming rig. holding off for the m4 studio, or m4 mini with max a rough export test m4 base - 59s M4 pro - 29s 4090 - 18s

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome & Thanks :)

[@PatrickRambles]

🙏🏻

[@brownmiester]

what monitors do you have

[@PatrickRambles]

Studio display 👌

[@dough.9241]

There are better monitors for less money than Apple Studio Display? Name one. There are some with OLED and/or “better” refresh rate but are 4K or less resolution with suboptimal scaling on Mac. Most have inferior max brightness, too.

[@JedEckert]

I think he was just throwing people a bone.

[@hvasya]

Any of Dell Ultrasharp / Eizo on IPS Black with 4k & Auto Brightness sensor

[@PatrickRambles]

@hvasya for graphic designers/editors they're great. Wouldn't recommend an IPS panel for content consumption or gaming.

[@PatrickRambles]

Definitely can buy a top of the line OLED for that kind of money. Of Course, nothing will be as optimized as apples own

[@klownaround5464]

Samsung infinity 9 is Apple Mac Monitor clone for $600 less $999

[@AllenSchoepflin]

Mac will be the gaming computer of the future

[@makro8998]

Thanks, nice watches btw

[@PatrickRambles]

Glad you like them!

[@KatysCampKitchen]

Thanks for this review! I just ordered the same specs but @48G RAM. Replacing my 2017 MBP. It will be great since the video scrubs even on iMovie bog down, etc. and the render and export times are quite high also. Thanks for putting the mic to the computer. I will be doing some voiceovers and that helped to ally my worries for recording. ❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you! And subscribed!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks!! That will be one heck of an upgrade for you, let me know how you like it!

[@mahirahmansphotography8117]

im really considering the mac mini maxed out. im just having hard time to build a pc for video editing or just get maxed out mini lol. heres my building plan, 9950x, 64gb ddr5, 4080 super, 6tb m.2 ssd

[@PatrickRambles]

I guess it comes down to your preference for operating system and editing software. Also, if gaming is important to you, the PC would be a better option.

[@mahirahmansphotography8117]

@@PatrickRamblesi dont do gaming, just trying to get the best bang for bucks. with m4 pro 64gb, 1tb. i will save 800$ if i go with mac mini, just wondering if i will get same or better performance lol

[@PatrickRambles]

I see. Well I am slightly biased because I do prefer MacOS over Windows and I'm partial to Final Cut Pro for video editing, so I'd tell you to grab that Mac mini for a problem-free experience.

[@mahirahmansphotography8117]

@@PatrickRambles thanks so much. i will be making a decision as my current pc cant keep up with my workloads haha.

[@PatrickRambles]

@mahirahmansphotography8117 I feel ya, nothing worse than a machine bottlenecking your workflow.

[@jpxh123]

How is the fan noise?

[@PatrickRambles]

Almost non existent. It's in the video ;)

[@cogsincogs]

First time viewer here. Dude, it took you just shy of 7 min for you to start reviewing it...

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks for watching ✌️

[@joeycarrillo8371]

It’s $499 at Costco for entry 16Gb,256

[@lavinchi6709]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@PatrickRambles]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@MrHtech]

Fancy Setup

[@mayori-engineering-hub]

Question, why apple want to give away a powerfull box for less???

[@peanutygoodness]

Perspective is everything. Every comparison and measurable parameter discussed is truly bizarre when you step back and realize you are talking about seconds and minutes between thousands of dollars that in the end won’t help you in anyway, it all seems silly. When Photoshop was in its v6 and PowerMacs had 2GB HDs with between 16-132 MEGABYTES of ram, you had to manage your time and know that your external ULTRA SCSI II 2GB scratch disks will get your hi res commercial printer bound files to save in about 15 - 20 minutes. Remember one undo also made you adapt in different ways like saving different versions, which still takes considerable time, making your workflow dependent on the ability to think several steps ahead within the limitations of the hardware. So maybe that’s why I’m blown away at the attention to rendering speed comparison within 2 minutes, since I remember 20 minutes.

[@PatrickRambles]

We used to travel by horse too. Just because we had to find a way to make that work, doesn't mean today's travel options aren't more efficient. Times change, and so do workflows.

[@Ali-bz9dt]

Do you know the song at the start?

[@PatrickRambles]

The Vyper by Suedo!

[@Ali-bz9dt]

@@PatrickRambles thanks mate

[@frazerweb]

My m1 still fine no need to upgrade

[@742Timbox]

You’re expensive but I love the base model Mac mini m4

[@Door26-mi3fz]

It is great value for money, if not the best. But careful for design and print industry it’s not going to handle the large files, saying that I mean I will handle them but when you have large files and they needing colour correction etc it’s going to choke a little. It’s fast and it is a good, no excellent value for money computer. Just every tool for the job. One thing if you going to use it for professional design etc go for as much ram as possible, 16gb won’t do it.

[@thesuperstar4470]

What are those speakers ?

[@PatrickRambles]

Which ones?

[@thesuperstar4470]

@@PatrickRambles I see on your desk those two white box speakers one was in left and another right 2:30

[@FirstLast-nr6gf]

@@thesuperstar4470 Yamaha HS7 ?

[@PatrickRambles]

Sorry, I missed your reply. It the Yamaha HS5

[@PatrickRambles]

If you're looking for an alternative, I can also recommend the Rokit RP series. I use them as well and love both.

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

256 for storage in 2024? Ridiculous. Then you have to use an external ssd to store stuff. And you can use the external ssd as your main device but you have to do weird and time consuming stuff to make that work.

[@JulianFernandez]

thanks!

[@SPDTDL]

At that level I’d be going studio, for better thermals if nothing else…. Roll on spring…

[@PatrickRambles]

I'm looking forward to that one too 🔥

[@MasterChief4U]

You can play any game you want with GForce Now on a these Mac Mini... Just have a good connection. A i even use my T-Mobile Home Internet 5G. You can't tell the game is being hosted. Which I wondered about. but it seems NVIDIA spent money on their servers..

[@PatrickRambles]

how’s the latency?

[@MasterChief4U]

@@PatrickRambles That was my concern. so I used the service for 3 months. Something like $10.00 a month. The normal is 26 download and 64 upload.. But I am using a 5G network. People with Fiber would get better results I'm assuming. But the reason I use T Mobile 5G Home Internet it's mobile. As I live in an RV. So I move around from cell towers. But average is 900 Download and 100 Upload. All for $25.00.a month with auto pay. So I can't complain..

[@PatrickRambles]

I'll give it a try!

[@sandiameen8812]

Is that an Alexa?😂😊 2:27

[@PatrickRambles]

Yessir. We have a polyamorous assistant situation going on here in the studio.

[@danielkinney6325]

NO. WiFi 7. Massive mistake on apples part

[@-windycitysammy-]

The Envoy Ultra is out of stock. sigh. 🙄

[@PatrickRambles]

Ugh.

[@7aemr]

1:47 he looks like the r6 siege caster

[@denisusudur]

XD

[@rossw1365]

based on benchmarks the igpu in the base mac mini pro is equivalent to...a radeon rx 6600 a $200 budget card that's impressive for an igpu but it's not so impressive when you pay $1400 for something called "pro" and the cpu? the m4 pro is 30% slower in cinebench multicore and 30% faster in geekbench single core than the ryzen ai 370, amd's latest mobile chip in cinebench single core the m4 pro is only 7% faster than the ryzen cinebench fully and continuously stresses every core for a sustained period, so it gives a more accurate benchmark for total cpu performance (and thermal mgt, incl fan noise) geekbench stresses performance cores, particularly the fastest single core, in shorter bursts so it is a good metric for apps that depend on quick bursts of performance, but not for apps that demand sustained performance, like video editing and 3d rendering you know, the kinds of things pros might do ;) anyway when you compare it to the ryzen ai, the m4 pro isn't that impressive, especially for $1400 - and WAY UP if you upgrade to pro-level storage and memory and for a computer that calls itself "pro"

[@rossw1365]

for comparison, this is a new mini pc with an older ryzen 6900hx and a discrete gpu, the 6600 le kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJbdcolphpqEorc&pp=ygUMYW9vc3RhciBnb2R4 the 6600 le has the same specs as the rx 6600 and is equivalent to the 16 gpu cores on the base pro mini the 6900hx is about 30-40% slower than the pro in cinebench (single and multicore), but is still plenty fast price? about $600 (with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd, both easily upgraded by the user, btw ;) and it's built on an itx board so isn't much bigger than the mini and will easily sit on your desk

[@rossw1365]

it goes without saying, the $600 mini pc is faster than the $600 mac mini in every way except single cpu core and is, therefore, arguably the best computer $600 can buy right now

[@PatrickRambles]

With a massive emphasis on "arguably" ;)

[@rossw1365]

@@PatrickRambles not really the pc is like a single-core m1, multicore m4, and graphics m4 pro that's better than the m4 mini and the ssd is bigger and faster, too, and is upgradeable the ram isn't as fast but is upgradable (to 64 or 96gb) so it has a much higher ceiling eg, you can prob run bigger llm models with more memory and the faster gpu pc > m4 mini

[@TyrantTitan.]

Pros are not Max replacements, especially for anything involving graphics

[@PatrickRambles]

M4 and M3 can't be compared pound for pound though.

[@fnjydtfdtjdtj]

So Sir Jorah is a tech reviewer now??

[@PatrickRambles]

Haha you're not the first one to say that

[@VMYeahVN]

"I'm pretty sure 40 tabs is more than most people would have open". Hahahahaha, yeah totally *glances at my 300ish Firefox tabs spread across 4 windows*. No one would EVER be insane enough to have more than a couple dozen tabs open 😅

[@PatrickRambles]

😂😂

[@HoundDogMech]

But you aren't included the EXTRAS you need like SCREEN, Keyboard,Bouse And Busshel Basket to make it a Portable like the LAPTOP. Today Portability is every thing. OH don't for the Big BRICK or Generator cause it ain't got NO Battery. Boss.

[@PatrickRambles]

It's called a desktop computer for a reason "boss". And as such, it doesn't get any more portable than this 🙄 (P.s. there is no brick, just a cable).

[@AzamatSariyev-u5o]

Yes

[@lchanceiv]

Not the gray sweatpants!!!🥵🥵🥵

[@ichigen511]

I just really want to know why you have 36 unanswered calls on your phone.

[@PatrickRambles]

Ain't nobody got time for that.

[@markjob6354]

*One thing is clear Patrick, you have extremely deep pockets ! None of the equipment you've purchased and are testing for this post is all that affordable (Except the Regular iteration of the New M4 Mac Mini).*

[@PatrickRambles]

Well, as a reviewer, these are business expenses 🤷‍♂️

[@markjob6354]

@@PatrickRambles Well, Sir, in that case you have one generous expense account.

[@gbwalther3198]

@@markjob6354 ✔😎😎

[@johnroberts4000]

I hope someone sells that case for mac mini m4 base model. Sell it to us haha will buy it.

[@PatrickRambles]

They do! I've seen nice aluminum ones

[@johnroberts4000]

@@PatrickRambles Where can I buy one of those you have a link for it? feel free to share an affiliate link.

[@PatrickRambles]

@johnroberts4000 this is the aluminum one I was referring to, I think it looks better than the printed one : amzn.to/49bgT2N

[@johnroberts4000]

@@PatrickRambles Bought it using your link thanks.

[@A10Jedi]

Color grading on iMovie pro errr Final Cut Pro (said no pro ever)

[@PatrickRambles]

Cool story.

[@michaelkeudel8770]

It doesn't run my software, so its an expensive paper weight to me.

[@PatrickRambles]

What software might that be?

[@michaelkeudel8770]

@@PatrickRambles AutoCAD Electrical, Vault, Adobe with encrypting, the software for my Boss GT-100 guitar pedal, my Windows games, my disk partitioning tools, to software tool to load games on my arcade cabinet, just to name a few.

[@PatrickRambles]

@michaelkeudel8770 so basically you're upset that this Mac is not a Windows machine?

[@michaelkeudel8770]

@@PatrickRambles No, I'm not upset about anything, I said it doesn't run the software I need it to run, so it's nothing more than an expensive paper weight. Just a fact.

[@PatrickRambles]

I just don't get the point of the comment. It's like me watching a video on someone's 4090 build, saying it's trash because it doesn't run Final Cut Pro. It's factual, but what's the point?

[@chadgrant8870]

You paid $3k for a machine, lol up to $4k with the accessories

[@selfscience]

I normally have 50 tabs open.

[@PatrickRambles]

You animal 😂

[@popshobbydungeon]

$600 ???? Its on Microcenter for $500