Paul Davies - Do Science & Religion Conflict?

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@neffetSnnamremmiZ Ай бұрын

No, there can't be a conflict. Conflict only appears because undifferentiatedness..

@CesarClouds Ай бұрын

Monotheistic religions are absulutist, not open to correction, because of "sacred" dictates. The conflict is inherent.

@joelharris4399 Ай бұрын

That's right!

@esorse Ай бұрын

Addressing an issue is easier and can be more fruitful when it's sunny for me, but if the other faculties * effectively circumscribe faith when isolated to undertake science, then God isn't omnipotent. * Perception, reason, emotion, intuition, revelation, faith, or some combination of these.

@AnarchoReptiloidUa Ай бұрын

Thank you for an interesting video. 😊

@ronhudson3730 Ай бұрын

God can play an intimate, daily role in a person’s life if that person desires it. Does God intervene from time to time in an overt manner, maybe yes, maybe no. Regarding whether science is a religion… for some it absolutely is. They make the same leaps of faith and assumptions that religionists do. Often for completely unfounded reasons.

@johannuys7914 Ай бұрын

Did you hear what he said at the beginning? For scientists, all science is provisional. Your personal bias is irrelevant.

@deanodebo Ай бұрын

@@johannuys7914if all science is provisional, then you have no problem with my denial of evolution - right? Or any theory for that matter

@rudysimoens570 Ай бұрын

@@deanodebotheists claim to know the truth about their imaginary god without a shred of evidence. Scientists are open minded and if there is evidence that contradicts the accepted science they will change their scientific models. But there are certain things that will never change because of the overwhelming evidence. Such as the germ theory, the theory about gravity, the theory about evolution, the cosmologic facts about the earth orbiting the sun, etc. Maybe some details about evolution can change but the basic principles of evolution are even better documented and understood than the theory of gravity and the evidence for evolution is overwhelming and confirmed by ALL the studies in ALL the different scientific fields!

@johannuys7914 Ай бұрын

@@deanodebo Sure. Give me a better theory. I'm here for the rest of September. You can add October as well.

@deanodebo Ай бұрын

@@johannuys7914 Sure First, a clarifying question: What do you mean by “better”, what are the criteria and how do you justify that criteria?

@bokchoiman Ай бұрын

All religions are effectively unfalsifiable. That's what separates them from science. The morality and way of life stuff doesn't even originate from religion. Religion is the collection of wisdom from a region. Where the people there collectively agree to the to the wisdom, it becomes "immortalized" within written media. People have it backwards and think that it is religion that grants them the wisdom, when it is the other way around. This is the fundamental misunderstanding between religions that causes friction. Meanwhile, science is the product of curiosity and people wanting to prove each other wrong. It's pretty far separated and only comes in contact with religion where religion tries to prohibit certain practices that are against the religion. Luckily, there haven't been religions that vehemently try to stop scientists from experimenting on animals, otherwise we'd not advance nearly as fast.

@rudysimoens570 Ай бұрын

@@noelwass4738I agree but if the scientists would not first have tested certain medicines on animals, the medical world would not have progressed so quickly and many diseases would still be untreatable today. Moreover, we can also ask ourselves whether it is morally acceptable to breed animals for the sole purpose of slaughtering and eating them. And what about the many religions that kill and sacrifice animals without anesthesia in honor of some imaginary god?

@NijaoNJ Ай бұрын

@@noelwass4738That is called physics my friend. People will do whatever physics allows them to do. Basically, right and wrong is subjective to the person. Morals can be different person not person

@NijaoNJ Ай бұрын

You are very correct my friend.

@SteveWray Ай бұрын

Aleister Crowley; "The aim of religion, the method of science". Also, Frasiers "Golden Bough" is worth a remark on this topic, the progression from magic, through religion to science and what they are.

@shawnewaltonify Ай бұрын

The problem with religion is that scientists are prohibited from using any reference or conceptualization of the total dissolution of self. Every religion has their own respective concept for this study of consciousness and awareness, but when scientists and philosophers attempt to do so, any new expression and concepts developed become a topic of discussion to compare against religion that preceded science and philosophy. The reason this happens is because of the percentage of scholars who are religious - or who do not want to offend their community, family, and friends who are. Religion has this authority over science still until this day. This is an era that we are leaving behind.

@sanatkumarghosh5123 Ай бұрын

It is a futile exercise to know God ,since,the creator is a multi dimensional existence which is outside the grip single dimension human beings.Science is marching on and on in right direction but the Religion is a wee bit go astray.But man is not only bones and skeleton but forms and expressions. But forms and expressions are outside the grip of science. The main difference between man and the creator is that man has always keep himself first but God has successfully been obliterated his personal self or subjectiveness to be more rational and objective.whats the proof that's there's god.obviosly the phenomenoneal world is the base reproduction of creative and ideal world.

@mohdnorzaihar2632 Ай бұрын

Could we learn "few things about god" if we don't "experiencing" these earthly life realms..!!?? How "love's- hate" work if we didn't experiences it..!!?? Peace be upon us all

@thomasridley8675 Ай бұрын

Faith and certainty has created over 300,000 answers so far. And they can all be easily dismiss as obvious fictions. Well except for the one they happen to believe in. But it takes a pile of ego stoking rationalizations to get there.

@TheTroofSayer Ай бұрын

As a long-time follower of Paul Davies' work, he occasionally says things I object to, like at 3:01 - "Einstein showed us that time is not some sort of arena..." Einstein's interpretation of time was likely incorrect, and Dialect explains why, in his very recent video titled "Einstein was WRONG About Time. Our Modern Theories are in Trouble". Fatal mistake to interpret time as a dimension. Time is a meaning attributed to our embodied experience of the passage of events, like a ticking clock ("embodied" is the idea that bodies wire neuroplastic brains). There's no going back to a past, no skipping to a future. Time's direction is that of the passage of events. With my example of time, above, it would seem that science is itself bogged down in its own variant of religiosity. Authentic science should not be inconsistent with authentic religion... indeed, they should be one and the same, and questions of morality, like questions of mathematics, or philosophy, or physics, or psychology, deserve their own subtopic within its scope.

@ameralbadry6825 Ай бұрын

People just have to let go, I liked that 👍

@bobcabot Ай бұрын

ja by nature: the one is necessary and related to the survival-instinct (nature) the other is constantly interfering...

@djtomoy Ай бұрын

I see them as pretty much the same, after all when the war starts we all die the same

@ronhudson3730 Ай бұрын

Scientists and the evolution of science continue to discover and explain how things actually evolved and why things happened the way they did. If there is a God, then this knowledge must describe how God worked and works to allow or enable the universe to exist. That is what I believe. God can be both cosmic in scale and within and outside of reality and time. God can also know me on the most intimate level and help me with my life.

@deanodebo Ай бұрын

“How things actually evolved” No. You clearly didn’t hear him. Science doesn’t settle what’s actual. It tries to describe a provisional explanation, subject to revision

@rudysimoens570 Ай бұрын

Your god is not detectable in any way. That's very suspicious isn't it because that is exactly the same characteristic of something that does not exist in reality! And what does that even mean to "exist out of space and out of time"? It's an absurd, abstract and contradictionary concept! Something can not exist for zero seconds because then it does not exist. And neither can something exist for eternity "out of time" because eternity IS an indication of time. And neither can something exist "out of space" because something that exists takes space itself! Anyway, science and especially evolution have already debunked the crux of christianity and the crux of all the other religions I know of ages ago! And there is not a shred of evidence for the existence of ANY god or Allah or whatever name they gave to their non-existing celestial dictator!

@_mynewcareer Ай бұрын

They conflict but can coexist

@thomasridley8675 Ай бұрын

Obviously no they can't coexist. They dismiss any science that doesn't fit their theological expectations. No matter how valid it is.

@tedgrant2 Ай бұрын

I now realise that giving money to religious organisations was wrong, and I hereby declare that I repent of my earlier mistakes. I swear by Almighty God that I will not do it again.

@balyapmayanari Ай бұрын

Science & Religion also cooperates even if you have spiritual/materialistic view.

@vitus.verdegast Ай бұрын

If a religion says that Earth is the center of the universe or that all living species were "created" separately just as we see them today then, yeah, science and religion contradict one another.

@bernardpalir Ай бұрын

what if time itself is god who is eternal.

@kallianpublico7517 Ай бұрын

Is science good? Who answers this question, science or religion, or politics? What is useful today may not be so beneficial tomorrow. For all science’s reliability it cannot predict its use or misuse. Therefore, neither can it predict its impact on evolution. As long as humans care about themselves and others religion can temper the aims of science. If science interferes in that care, for good or ill, then we are no longer human. We are subject to another will: no longer have free will.

@simonhibbs887 Ай бұрын

So if we don't subjugate ourselves to a cosmic divine authority, we won't have free will?

@bokchoiman Ай бұрын

You already have no free will. We're effectively riding on a massive wave of advancement and it doesn't matter what religion thinks about technological progress because it doesn't have the power to stop it, otherwise it would have intervened at any point of innovation. The fact that one cannot predict the use case of a technology is why religion will never be able to curb it.

@kallianpublico7517 Ай бұрын

@@simonhibbs887Can God or the “Church “ control human feelings like pills can? I suggest you look at your own “worship” (which I assume is science) and ask it questions of controlling the masses. Whether it is pills or propaganda?

@simonhibbs887 Ай бұрын

@@kallianpublico7517 Throughout history religious institutions have been incredibly coercive, employing violence, torture and death to maintain religious orthodoxy. Today the islamofascist regime in Iran is beating, abusing and murdering women for wearing their clothes ‘wrong’. In pretty much any deeply religious community you either keep any doubts or disagreements you have with orthodoxy to yourself, or you are out. Thats a powerful coercive force. Science is just the study of the world. There are discoveries in the world that can be used for either liberation or repression. Ignorance is no freedom though.

@jamesruscheinski8602 Ай бұрын

time and space can change, like from classic reality in cosmos to quantum in black holes; maybe other states of time before quantum or states of space beyond classic cosmos?

@888jackflash Ай бұрын

"[people may say] that they've had some divine experience.. you know, which I'VE never had..." You just need to take a stronger dose of LSD next time. It's not about God "putting something in your head".. Divine experience all about REALIZATION of The Highest.. the Noblest.. the Supremecy.. of LOVE.

@JamarvLarue Ай бұрын

There was none Evil in the beginning

@rudysimoens570 Ай бұрын

Suffering, death, unjustice and evil already exist since life started of here on this small speck of dust called Earth some 3,5 billion years ago! LONG before the species of great apes called the Homosapiens came into existence by the unguided process called evolution some two or three hundred thousand years ago!

@branimirsalevic5092 Ай бұрын

Religion does not really care about "scientific truths", not because religion thinks that those truths are false, but because they are irrelevant. What's Jesus' message to love thy enemies like you love yourself, or Buddha's message to do good, avoid evil and purify your mind - what's that got to do with the nature of time, or whether the Earth is flat, or how the world came about? Whatever the answer is, you're still expected to love thy enemy, to do good and avoid evil.

@mcmg-museudacriacao.melind405 Ай бұрын

Seuls ceux qui trouveront la théorie unifiée comprendront l'esprit de Dieu, comme le voulait Einstein... mais tout est révélé dans le livre : La Chair de L'Univers

@jamesruscheinski8602 Ай бұрын

maybe specific science concepts can be reconciled with statements about God, especially scripture, even if maybe not God in general?

@rudysimoens570 Ай бұрын

Science is not concerned with fiction and magic! Science investigates the observed natural phenomena and seeks scientific explanations for these natural phenomena.

@chalykoff Ай бұрын

science and religion do not conflict, scientism and religion do.

@bdnnijs192 Ай бұрын

Ooh snap. When creationists deny science, it's scientists that are the peoblem in your book.

@markworkman9991 Ай бұрын

If God is timeless and spaceless and we are made in his image, why did he create space and time?

@sandradixon6205 Ай бұрын

The Bible says that God has always existed and will always exist. He had no beginning and will have no end. He is called the King of eternity. (1Timothy 1:17) Jesus said that God is a Spirit and that no man has seen God at any time. (John 4:24; 1:18) He exists outside the physical realm. At Exodus 33:20 God told Moses that no man could see him and live. This is logical because we can’t look directly at our sun on a hot summer’s day, and the sun is just a small star among the billions and billions of stars in the universe which God created. The Bible says that God knows all the stars by name. (Isaiah 40:26) All of this shows that we aren’t created physically in his image. It means that humans were created with the ability to cultivate and manifest qualities that God possesses, such as love, empathy, and justice. That explains why humans can actually imitate God’s personality.

@simonhibbs887 Ай бұрын

@@sandradixon6205 Except the people that did see god. Genesis describes god walking around the garden of eden, he appears to Abraham in his tent, and Jacob wrestles with him.

@sandradixon6205 Ай бұрын

One problem is that there are more than 10,000 religions which all disagree with each other so it’s extremely likely that they would conflict with science too. Putting religion aside, the Bible doesn’t conflict with science. While it isn’t a science textbook, when it talks about scientific matters it’s 100% accurate. For example, a theory written after the Bible was completed said that the universe emerged from a cosmic egg and that the earth was supported by various creatures. In contrast, about the year 1473 B.C. Moses wrote that the earth was suspended upon nothing, and around the year 732 B.C. the prophet Isaiah wrote that the earth is a sphere. These Bible writers contradicted ideas that were popular at the time. It was some 200 years after Isaiah that the Greek philosopher Pythagoras proposed that the earth is a sphere, and more than 3,000 years passed from Moses’ writing until scientists such as Isaac Newton realized that the earth seemed to hang upon nothing. The water cycle was accurately described in the Bible almost 2,600 years before it was “discovered” by a French naturalist. Quarantine for sick people was included in the Law God gave to Israel through Moses around 1512 B.C., but it wasn’t “discovered” and practiced by humans until 1348, about 2,860 years later. These are just a few examples that give evidence of God’s existence. In the Bible he tells us about himself and invites us to get to know him and have a personal relationship with him. (John 17:3; James 4:8) He also tells us why we’re here, what the purpose of life is, why we grow old and die, what happens to us when we die, the wonderful future he has in store for mankind and the earth, and many other things. Knowing these things gives our life real meaning and purpose. True faith is not blind, naive or gullible. It is based on facts and concrete evidence.

@simonhibbs887 Ай бұрын

>While it isn’t a science textbook, when it talks about scientific matters it’s 100% accurate. Ive seen you claim this here before, and seen other commentators point out all the claims in Genesis in just the first page or so of the bible, that are directly contrary to scientific discoveries, and other claims in the bible that are contrary to known fact. So either you don't always read replies to your comments (check the little bell at the top right of the page), or you already know for a fact that the above statement is false.

@keepcalm7453 Ай бұрын

All that can be said is that let it be an open ended debate. We will learn as we go along. We are building machines that present us with a parameter out of trillions within fractions of a second when commanded to do so and denying the possibility of a 'santient intelligent being or entity' who can tinker in its own creation(s) when 'prayed' to to do so! Inexplicable miracles do not happen but a chain of linked causal events may take place to achieve a desired end. This includes people acting in such a way as to bring to fruition wishes or prayers while acting as if their actions are in persuance of their own free will but who actually are being controlled in how they behave or act. At the end of the day Science will be the only definitive guiding light but it has to grow to be able to start to answer such questions or better still to let us know whether we are asking the right questions. AI and Quantum Computing are expected to expand our knowledge horizons to a point where we will not look like kids in candy stores.

@jennymiko Ай бұрын

He is full of fear! 💁🏻

@offbeep Ай бұрын

This series presents as an objective search for truth while focusing on a narrow Christian dominated slice of religion?

@sujok-acupuncture9246 Ай бұрын

Without lies religion dies.

@sandradixon6205 Ай бұрын

Yes, it’s a sad fact that religions tell lots of lies. Those that are particularly reprehensible are the so-called “Christian” religions that have so badly misrepresented God and the Bible. The religious leaders are just like those of Jesus’ day, of whom he said: “This people honors me (God) with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines”. (Matthew 15:8, 9) Sadly, many church members just accept what they’re taught without checking to see if it’s true or not. The fact is that what the churches teach doesn’t resemble what the Bible says. Just one example is the cross. The cross is a pagan symbol. A little research confirms that, but even if we ignore the evidence and assume that Jesus was killed on a cross, should it be venerated? No, for Jesus was executed as a criminal, like the men impaled alongside him, and his manner of death misrepresented him in the worst way. First-century Christians would not have viewed the instrument of his execution as sacred. Venerating it would have meant glorifying the wrong deed committed on it, the murder of Jesus. If your dearest friend were executed on false charges, would you make an image of the instrument of execution (say a hangman’s noose or an electric chair or the rifle of a firing squad) and then kiss that replica, burn candles before it, or wear it around your neck as a sacred ornament? That would be unthinkable. So, too, with the adoration of the cross. The fact that the cross is of pagan origin only makes the matter worse. The veneration of the cross is not Christian. It does not show love for God or Christ but mocks what they stand for. It violates God’s commandments against idolatry. It reveres a pagan symbol masquerading as Christian. (Exodus 20:4, 5; Psalm 115:4-8; 1 Corinthians 10:14) To consider a pagan symbol as sacred violates God’s command: “Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? . . . ‘Quit touching the unclean thing.’”-2 Corinthians 6:14, 17.

@asyetundetermined Ай бұрын

The sickness is apparent and so tragic. Mindless and unrelenting. Lacking all self awareness. It’s a shame what religion does to these peoples’ ability to navigate their lives honestly.

@sujok-acupuncture9246 Ай бұрын

@@sandradixon6205 very nice. Interesting.. Moreover he never died on the cross. The blood marks on the shroud of Turin are the material proof that Jesus never died on the cross. Blood never oozes out of a dead person's body.

@sandradixon6205 Ай бұрын

@@sujok-acupuncture9246 I thought you might find the following information interesting. Is the Shroud of Turin the Burial Cloth of Jesus? The Bible’s answer The Shroud of Turin is not mentioned in the Bible. It is a linen sheet thought by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. As a result of this belief, the shroud is considered by some to be one of Christendom’s most sacred relics. A cathedral in Turin, Italy, now houses the shroud in a high-tech protective casing. Do Bible accounts support the idea that the Shroud of Turin is genuine? No. Consider three aspects of the shroud that differ from what the Bible says. 1. The shroud is a single cloth measuring 442 by 113 centimeters (14 ft 6 in. by 3 ft 8 in.) plus an 8-centimeter (3 in.) strip sewed lengthwise. What the Bible says: Jesus’ dead body was wrapped, not in one piece of linen, but in multiple strips of cloth. His head was wrapped in a separate cloth. After Jesus was resurrected, one of his apostles came to the empty tomb and “saw the linen cloths lying there.” The Bible adds: “The cloth that had been on his head was not lying with the other cloth bands but was rolled up in a place by itself.”- John 20:6, 7. 2. The shroud contains markings presumed to be bloodstains from an unwashed corpse. What the Bible says: When Jesus died, his disciples prepared his body “according to the burial custom of the Jews.” (John 19:39-42) This custom included washing the corpse and applying oils and spices to it before burial. (Matthew 26:12; Acts 9:37) Therefore, Jesus’ disciples would have washed his body before wrapping it in cloths. 3. The shroud bears the image of a man “laid lengthwise along one half of the shroud while the other half had been doubled over the head to cover the whole front of the body,” according to the Encyclopædia Britannica. What the Bible says: Jesus’ disciples discussed his death, his empty tomb, and the eyewitness testimony of women who saw “a supernatural sight of angels, who said he is alive.” (Luke 24:15-24) If the shroud had been in Jesus’ tomb, his disciples would no doubt have discussed it and the images on it. However, the Bible says nothing about such a discussion. Should the shroud be venerated? No. Even if it were authentic, venerating it would still be wrong. Consider Bible principles that explain why. 1. It is unnecessary. Jesus explained: “God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:24) True worship does not involve the use of religious relics or icons. 2. It is forbidden. The Ten Commandments forbid idolatry. (Deuteronomy 5:6-10) Likewise, the Bible commands Christians: “Guard yourselves from idols.” (1 John 5:21) Some might argue that for them the shroud is not an idol but an icon, or symbol, of their religious faith. However, an icon becomes an idol to the person who venerates it. (An idol is an image, a representation, or a symbol that is an object of devotion) Therefore, a person who wants to please God will not show devotion or reverence to any object, including the shroud. Scientific analysis of the shroud Since the late 19th century, researchers have tried to use scientific methods to test the authenticity of the shroud. Some of these tests have proven inconclusive. However, in 1988, the Vatican submitted small samples taken from the shroud to three laboratories in different countries. After the laboratories subjected the samples to radiocarbon dating, each one concluded that the shroud was from the 13th or 14th century.

@browngreen933 Ай бұрын

Will someone please explain God's existence. That is, if God "exists" as many claim to be true, what is God made of? What does God's existence consist of? From what does God derive being? There must be some official answer to that question. 😮

@sandradixon6205 Ай бұрын

Yes, there is an answer and you can find it in the Bible which is God’s message to humankind. Jesus said at John 4:24 that God is a Spirit. Therefore, he exists outside the physical realm. That’s why Jesus said that no human has ever seen God. (John 1:18) Our limited human minds are unable to grasp infinity but the Bible tells us that God had no beginning and will have no end. He has always existed and will always exist. That’s why he’s called the King of eternity. (1Timothy 1:17) There is overwhelming evidence both in the Bible and in creation that proves God’s existence. He is our Heavenly Father and he not only tells us about himself in the Bible, but he also explains why we’re here, the purpose of life, why we grow old and die, what happens when we die, what the future holds for mankind and the earth as well as many other things. He loves us very much and wants us to get to know him and have a close relationship with him. (John 17:3; James 4:8)

@asyetundetermined Ай бұрын

Oh, you know…stuff!

@graphicmaths7677 Ай бұрын

I am an atheist myself, but I accept at least the possibility that there might be something "outside" our universe. One way to illustrate this is the idea that our universe might be a computer simulation. I doubt that is true, but it is a useful thought experiment. Imagine you are playing a computer game. The game has its own world. The computer exists in our world, and the computer has a representation of the game world. But the game world doesn't physically exist in our world. The game world doesn't necessarily follow the same rules as our would. People might be able to teleport, rise from the dead, or travel back in time and kill their own grandfather. In fact anything that the author of the game wants them to be able to do. Now imagine the game is so sophisticated that the characters within the game are actually conscious beings - that might even be possible eventually if we discover that AI can become conscious. What would those beings experience? The game would be their entire universe, and they would have absolutely no possible way to experience our world. They would think the game world was all that existed, and they would struggle to understand anything beyond it. But we could do things in their world. Leave cryptic books for them to discover, help one team to win a battle against all the odds, that sort of thing. So they might eventually realise that there might be something beyond their little game world. And they might ask, what is this other world made of, and how do the people there exist if they are not "physical" (in the game world). How would you explain it to them?

@sandradixon6205 Ай бұрын

@@asyetundetermined Although I’ve been personally studying the Bible for many years, the more I learn, the more I realize there is to learn. At 1 Timothy 2:3 the Bible tells us that it’s God’s will that all sorts of people come to an accurate knowledge of truth. If we truly desire to have accurate knowledge of our Creator and his purpose for mankind, we can ask him to help us by means of prayer, and he will help us. He listens intently to us just as a loving father listens intently to his beloved children. (Psalm 138:3)

@asyetundetermined Ай бұрын

@@sandradixon6205 that’s wonderful. I’m going to assume you’re not a scientist.

@sonnygajhede8252 Ай бұрын

the funny thing is that those who only rely on science and reject the existence of god are simply too stupid to accommodate both

@Promatheos Ай бұрын

Yes. Yes they do.

@sunyata4974 Ай бұрын

Science has a very narrow view of reality. Not everything that counts can be counted.

@realitycheck1231 Ай бұрын

Good interview. I think science should do what it does best. There isn't a conflict. We all live by faith in love to various degrees. ---------- ACIM ⁷God created every mind by communicating His Mind to it, thus establishing it forever as a channel for the reception of His Mind and Will. ⁸Since only beings of a like order can truly communicate, His creations naturally communicate with Him and like Him. ⁹This communication is perfectly abstract, since its quality is universal in application and not subject to any judgment, any exception or any alteration. ¹⁰God created you by this and for this. ¹¹The mind can distort its function, but it cannot endow itself with functions it was not given. ¹²That is why the mind cannot totally lose the ability to communicate, even though it may refuse to utilize it on behalf of being. Existence as well as being rests on communication. ²Existence, however, is specific in how, what and with whom communication is judged to be worth undertaking. ³Being is completely without these distinctions. ⁴It is a state in which the mind is in communication with everything that is real. ACIM Every loving thought that the Son of God ever had is eternal. ²The loving thoughts his mind perceives in this world are the world’s only reality. ³They are still perceptions, because he still believes that he is separate. ⁴Yet they are eternal because they are loving. ⁵And being loving they are like the Father, and therefore cannot die. ⁶The real world can actually be perceived. ⁷All that is necessary is a willingness to perceive nothing else. ⁸For if you perceive both good and evil, you are accepting both the false and the true and making no distinction between them.