CINE SUNT HUȚULII

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Paul Enache

Paul Enache

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@ioanmaftei6587
@ioanmaftei6587 Жыл бұрын
Prietene,multumim pentru aceste informatii ! Numai bine !
@ancarusu4533
@ancarusu4533 Жыл бұрын
Hutuli sunt si in banat,eu ma trag din hutuli si suntem mulți in banat. Sora tatei a spus că atunci când strabunici au venit in romania,in buletin scria hutul nu ucrainean,anul trecut matusa a avut 90 de ani,deci stia si ea ceva.Adevarat in tot ce spuneti despre hutuli. Multumim pentru videoclip! Va asteptam cu mai multe clipuri.
@11SEVERUS
@11SEVERUS Жыл бұрын
da santem si in banat😀
@marianarusu7594
@marianarusu7594 Жыл бұрын
Felicitari pentru acest documentar bine facut.
@user-sz4oq6bj8p
@user-sz4oq6bj8p Жыл бұрын
Foarte frumos prezentat bravooooo
@grigoreionescu63
@grigoreionescu63 10 ай бұрын
Mulțumim pentru minutioasa documentare !
@florintrandafir7573
@florintrandafir7573 Жыл бұрын
Frumos ! Multumim !
@elenabuzura6987
@elenabuzura6987 Жыл бұрын
Sa isi faca testul ADN! Ce trebuie sa speculam atata???
@MarianTofan-vl3ts
@MarianTofan-vl3ts Жыл бұрын
Toti care sunt cu deprinderi de pastori sun din vechii Bolohoveni.
@Lucian-mn9yo
@Lucian-mn9yo Жыл бұрын
În județul Botoșani există localitatea Huțani.
@MarianTofan-vl3ts
@MarianTofan-vl3ts Жыл бұрын
Aceasi situatie sunt si acei Ruteni care de fapt sunt PRUTENI
@florinrusu3948
@florinrusu3948 Жыл бұрын
Sînt tot frați cu noi... din vechii GEȚI. La fel ca și ceilalți munteni sau gorali din Carpații nordici... Și în Rusia, la cel mai înalt nivel, se știe că "Arienii din Carpați au fondat Rusia..."
@mircea-bn1ur
@mircea-bn1ur Жыл бұрын
Bunicul meu (1904) este din Siminicea a învățat românește la școală și nici un descendent nu știe limba ruteană bunica fiind româncă.
@constantapopa7575
@constantapopa7575 Жыл бұрын
Oameni cuminți
@iulianvlaicu125
@iulianvlaicu125 Жыл бұрын
❤👍
@mirific29
@mirific29 Жыл бұрын
Stimate Paul Enache, apreciez postarile dumneavoastra si efortul depus pentru a ne aduce informatii utile, din pacate, foarte multi comentatori nu prea au habar de ceea ce inseamna hutuli sau hutani ( care reprezinta unul si acelasi lucru) la fel ca si ruteni, ucraineni, lipoveni sau rusi, nu mai spun de hoholi sau haholi, cei mai multi le amesteca si fac multe confuzii, imi cer scuze ca a trebuit sa spun asta, Nu sunt mare specialist, dar am urmarit multe postari, am citit si m-am documentat, ca sa imi dau seama cat de cat cam cum sta treaba cu hutulii si rutenii, precizez ca vorbesc foarte bine limba ruteana ( un dialect at limbii ucrainene) care seamana perfect cu limba hutulilor, si nu ma refer la limba romana. Hutulii folosesc limba romana in motive socio-economice, si pentru ca au suferit un proces de romanizare inceput din anii 1960 cand a disparut invatamantul in limba ucraineana, si s-a trecut la limba romana in scolile din zonele locuite de acestia, Limba rutenilor si a hutulilor seamana perfect cu dialectul limbii ucrainene folosite in cea mai mare parte a regiunilor Ivano-Franko si Zacarpatia din Ucraina, Undeva ati citat pe cineva, parca pe Eminescu, ca hutulii si romanii se inteleg usor pentru ca cele doua limbi sunt asemanatoare, nici vorba, limbile sunt complet diferite, una din ramura slava, cealalta limba romanica Eu personal mai cred ca daca hutulii erau de origine geta sau daca, si ar fi pastrat o limba cat mai apropiata de limba romana, dar Asa si-au pastrat un dialect Al limbii ucrainene, pentru ca asa au vorbit dintotdeauna Ca sunt un grup mai diferit, cred ca a fost caracterul geografic Al regiunii, satele si casele mult mai rasfirate decat Al rutenilor din alte zone ale jud Suceava, Botosani, Maramures, Banat, Am avut norocul sa l cunosc pe ultimul mare profesor de limbi slave de la fac de filologie din Bucuresti, acum iesit la pensie, Ioan R. si care a avut aceeasi parere despre originea hutulilor
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 Жыл бұрын
Răman totuși câteva lucruri pe care nu le puteți explica ; - Huțulii folosesc cuvinte din limba română VECHE pe care românii nu o mai vorbeau demult - deci chestia cu ,,anii 60 când li s-au interzis școlile în limba lor " - pică . - Chiar și în Ucraina sunt localității ( sau alt puncte topografice ) cărora huțulii le-au dat ( de sute de ani ) nume în limba veche românească cu rădăcini carpice...
@mirific29
@mirific29 Жыл бұрын
@@paulenache7595 Graiul huțul prezintă „din punct de vedere fonetic, un aspect cu totul distinct în cadrul dialectologiei ucrainene”, opinie constatată de I. Patruț, care analizând dialectul huțul din calea superioară a Sucevei constată ca nici măcar în aceasta, mai expusă influențelor românești ulterioare, „nu există aproape nici o trăsătură fonetică românească”, ceea ce îl face pe cercetător să vadă în această populație slavi autentici, neamestecați cu românii.[necesită citare] Istoricii Ion Nistor, R.F. Kaindl, G.V. Asbot, A.Ficker, E.Kolbenheuyer, precum și lingviștii Ion Patruț, Vintilă Mihăilescu, Corneliu și Aspazia Reguș, Ion Robciuc, Ion Lobiuc, Timofie Macovei și numeroși alții, le-au atribuit huțulilor o origine incontestabil slavă, în timp ce L. Wierzbecki, George Bogdan Duica, B. Auerbach se pronunță pentru o categorică deosebire a huțulilor de ruteni, adică de ucraineni.[4] De multe ori huțulii au fost în mod oficial considerați un subgrup de ucraineni.[5] Cu toate acestea, huțulii nu par a fi o etnie de sine stătătoare. Aceștia par a se înrudi, mai mult cultural decât lingvistic, cu alte populații slavone ce locuiesc în Munții Carpați și în Transcarpatia, și anume cu boikii, rutenii, lemkii și goralii.[necesită citare]
@MarianTofan-vl3ts
@MarianTofan-vl3ts Жыл бұрын
Portul popular tuturor popoarelor din vecinatate sunt venhilor vlahi.
@sandorriza5202
@sandorriza5202 Жыл бұрын
Numai , că unii au făcut mici schimbări de modă şi în loc de opinci au purtat cizme .
@ursuletulvrancean7544
@ursuletulvrancean7544 Жыл бұрын
@@sandorriza5202 Și acum mai nou, poartă adidași. 😂
@sandorriza5202
@sandorriza5202 Жыл бұрын
@@ursuletulvrancean7544 Da.
@PetruDrozd
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👍👍👍🇹🇩
@Vasile10012
@Vasile10012 8 ай бұрын
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@ReinCarnation-yu4je
@ReinCarnation-yu4je 7 күн бұрын
it exist a forgotten ancient connection of iran (antique media kingdom) with the eastern-carpathian regions mainly with the hutsul people who are living there (in romanian suceava, maramures & ukrainian ivano-frankivsk, chirnivci, zakarpatia), they were called in 1100 AD huci tribe (later came an romanian -ul ending). hutsuls have earliest roots which goes way back to the median busi tribe who were listed by herodot (lived around 450 BC) as one of the ancient westiranic median tribes the busae. an oldiranic typicalness of some languages/dialects was that not rarely the bh sound shifted to h sound: busi>husi/huzi>huci & some variations of hutsul in romania are huzul or hutan. herodotus the historian wrote about colonists from media called sigunians (shuhani is the main luri dialect & the lurs counts as one of the descendants of the antique medes) who settled before herodot's time in transylvania. sigynians wore median clothing, had many median customs and they themselfes said (to herodot) they are descendants of the medes. i can bring some proofs/facts/wordsimilarities/explainings/theorizations to show the direct connection of proto-hutsuls with the medes, concretely median busae tribe & the sigynnian branch who settled in westromania. genetically hutsuls are in first case a mixture of dacians+vlahs+slavs but from their origin (the old substrat) an iranic sigynnian people. about when these median colonists sigynians came to transylvania exist 2 options, they left their homeland and moved via turkey to there around 630 BC (when kyaxares were made for 28 years to a vassal in his own kingdom) or 540 BC (when the median kingdom collapsed and persians took over). the historian strabo (63BC-23AD) wrote about siginians who lived in the southwestern caspia sea/western elborz-mountains region (by the way elborz and east-carparthian areas look in some places similar) like gilan, mazandaran, ardabil, zanjan, qazwin, these siginians were the ones who stayed in media and didn't leave like herodot's sigynnes. strabo said about these ones that in general they practise persians' customs and he mentioned like herodot their small horses race which were shaggy long haired flat-nosed/short-snooted ponies that pulled a chariot/cart in a four-horse-team, maybe that small horse race is related to the eastcarpathian hutul-horses/ponies (as a newer mixed breeding that originated from the sigynnian horses). i go back to the topic with proofs that the hutsuls were in fact of iranic median sigynian origin, the ethnicon itself (besides the most possible explaining that it comes from the median busi tribe name & a s to ts dialectical sound-shift existed sometimes in ukraine too) has also another 4 theories of it's meaning (until today nobody could proof what the ethnonym hucul really means), the 4 other theories what it means are all median cognates: 1. it comes from the gilaki word for "mountain"="qukh", that leads to gukh+ul(noun ending) so the huculian ethnonym would mean "people from the mountains". 2. gilaki word "houz" for "lake" would mean hutsuls are "people who live by the lake" 3. northern garmsiri word "guch"="ram/ibex/capricorn/battering-ram/mountain-goat" would mean ghuculs are "people associated with rams/got something to do with rams" 4. gilaki word "ghut" for "immersion" would mean "(water)divers/aquanauts". herodot speculated what the name sigynni could mean from what he heared or knew, he used to associate the name with the meaning "spear" and on the other hand with "traders/hucksters". the proto-hutsul ethnos was surely formed in the maramures region and some bordering north-transilvania areas/northwest-romania where the sigynians sometime between 100-500 AD mixed with the surrounding dacian population & vlahian shepherds, a bit later came the slavic component(tiverians & whitecroats) into their ethnogenesis mainly in the ukraine-romanian bordering regions since 600 AD. sigunnians had 2000 years ago surely 2 median identities: the word siguni has to be the same as shuhani, what means one of the main dialects of lur people aka western-luri language, so it showed their median branch language-identity, but the other identity was the tribe-identity, the word that would later become the ethnicon hucul what means they had seen themselfes as belonging to the husi/huzi/huci tribe what is a dialectical changing of the word busi, their busae tribe identity. also i think that the meaning "sigynni" can all in all be understood as "people who are originally from a stony mountainous area or region" cuz if you take a talishi etymology for that then "sygh" is "stone" or if you take the kurdish etymology then "chiya/shah" is "mountain". talishi plural-suffix -un speaks also for a talishi alike dialect that formed the word "sigunni"(how appolonios wrote the ethnonym). in iran are mostly the galeshi people but also kurds or qashqais known for beeing pastoral-seminomadic like hutsuls are it often too. galeshi people could ethnically fit as descendants in first case of strabo's siginians if not the lurs, if sigynnian really stands for "mountain-man"(like galeshis who are an ethnicity who's homeland are the whole alborz mountains & they speak around 4 dialects who belong to both gilaki & mazandarani languages) and not for "person from the susanian region"(where in first case live the lurs that means the land shushan that was mentioned in the bible), but the name sigynni could speak rather for a proto-kurdish dialect origin if it comes from the word mountain=chiya/shah (in the case that sigynni is not the same as shuhani from the western luri territory or in other words if it doesn't mean proto-luri people or the western-part of them). herodot's sigynnians really could be people who mixed on the way with other different west-migrating iranians (rather from mountainous areas). the word for an "inhabitant of the mountains" in the hutsulian language itself is "sus", maybe the etymology of that word (in the case if it's not symbiosically identical with kurdish "shax"="mountain"/"qysh"="rock") and also of the name sigynn and even hutsul really goes back to the name of the ancient metropolis susa (today shush) from the copper-age and the region susiana where that city was included (through mixing the meaning? because the etymology of susa is unknown but the region has actually enough mountainous areas too & it is said around 500 BC in susiana were spoken both languages median and elamitic/hatamitic because a textual sources study shows that in the neoassyrian period not only media but also further to the west like elamitic areas had a population with iranian-speakers often as majority) and used were also the names shushun, shushan & sugan, today susiana is the province xuzestan and was called already by persians from achaemenidic times hujiya & huziya, susi(ana)/xuze(stan) remind of the word sus(=mountain-inhabitant=hutsul?) and the ethnonym hutsul that is also often spelled husul(husanesc) & huzul(huzulei) is without the newer romanian ending huts/huz/hus but in that region itself is known a doubtable folk etymology for the word "xuzi" explained as "sugar manufacturer" or "sugar cane cultivator", so far one can just only speculate whether the sigynnes & hutsuls have something to do with susiana or not because the shuhan district lies not in the historical susiana but in ilam (xuzistan's northern neighbour province) and the luri shuhani dialect is also mainly spoken in ilam and not in xuzistan, it's more realistic that shuhan(i) is directly connected with sigynn(i) while susiana was much lesser populated with medes...........
@ReinCarnation-yu4je
@ReinCarnation-yu4je 7 күн бұрын
following words are typical hutsulian & have ties to westiranic median modern descendants' languages: an interessting exclusive huculian word (that is not to be found in ukrainian language) with etymological ties to neo-median(=luri/gilaki/balochi/kurdi/behdinani/leki/garmsiri/sohi/zazaki/mazandarani/sivandi/semnani/talishi) cause it sounds related to these 2 gilaki words by meaning "hooz"(lake/pond) & "ghut"(immersion/diving) is the huculian word "ghuk" and means "waterfall", so connected with watermasses/lake/diving, further it's also connected with the taleshi verb "hynj-/hänj-" what means "to drink", "ghuk" is also related to the verb of south-tati kiaraji dialect & soi/sohi language "hönj-" meaning "to water/to sprinkle". another huculian word is "kutüga"(also "kotüga") and means "dog" while in the luri language "katu" & in kurdish "kuti" and "kuchik" is "dog", these words are really close to each other. a huculian word (not in ukrainian language again) for "farm-animals/domestic-animals/livestock-animals" is "marga" what you can compare to the luri & gilaki word "morg" for "chicken" and galeshi word "märg" for "hen" what surely is related together, possibly "marga" is also related to the sorani-kurdish "manga"="cow", hutsulian "marga" belongs definitely to median dialects from origin because only indo-iranic languages have that word "morg" and in no other slavic or other indoeuropean language you can find it. then of course the romanian and hutsulian word "branza" & "bryndza" (in the 14th century also as a variation with a ch sound brancha) is translated as "cheese", also often as "cream-cheese", it's a word from the romanian and southwest-ukraine bordering carpathians & many romanians, hutsuls and ukrainians try to find the origins of that word, i searched for the translations of the word cheese in the most languages and no language has a similar word for cheese like branza, so it sure don't came from slavic or romance languages, the only language i found that has similarities with that word is the westiranic balochi word "ponch" for "curd/white cheese paste or spread/cream-cheese/cancoillotte/processed cheese/pot-cheese/junket-cheese/strained yogurt-cheese/quarg/cooking-cheese/runny cheese", so if you look that in the 14th century the word branza/brynza(commonly variation bronza) had also a ch sound variation, then broncha would be really close to the balochi ponch and has the same meaning, but also important is that it is connected to an other hutsulian word, to "banosh", a traditional dish of hutsul cuisine, a "porridge/grits cooked in sour cream", both banosh/banush & branza/brynza/bryndzya are originally from the carpathian hutsul region and other neighbouring regions or countries adopted that food, but etymologically both words are westiranic median proto-balochi closest related in their origin, "banush" is a creamy porridge and etymologically identical to balochi "ponch"="cream curd cheese/processed cream-cheese/cooked cheese/soft processed cheese" cuz i principially see the etymology of ponch & branza & banosh as connected with the meaning cream,mash,curd,yoghurt,porridge,puree,cancoillotte,creamcheese,pesto,paste,gruel,grits,ect. as their roots and not with the meaning real cheese or directly corn groats. the second hutsulian word for "cheese" is "budz", that word is also related to balochi "ponch"="processed curd cheese", budz & brynza are both of a cheesetype that is rather something between mozzarella and feta-cheese and cottage-cheese while the balochi ponch i think is more like the greek labneh creamcheese................
@ReinCarnation-yu4je
@ReinCarnation-yu4je 7 күн бұрын
when hutsuls are in the final phase of manufacturing cheese they put saltwater on it and that "saltwater" is called "sorovicya"(-ovicya is a slavic female noun-ending that means it is made of sor-), the luri word "sur" for "salty" and kurmanji-kurdish "shor" for "salty" are very close to that hutsulian word-root, these westiranic words "sur"/"shor" and hutsulian "sor-" are identical and of the same median origin (it's also often called in the ukrainian manner "syrovicya" then it's more compareable with the natanz region's dialectical word "shir"="salty"), sigynnians influenced also the romanian language because the romanian word for "salt" is "sare" (while in latin "salis" is "salt"). a typical ukrainian word what means untypical for the other slavic languages (really possibly borrowed by ukrainians from the carpathian regions where hutsuls live) is the word "gharniy"="great/excellent/amazing" which can be compared to the garmsirian bashkardi word "gohrt"="big" or kurdish "gaura"="big", but not too sure about that, better would be to see in first case the balochi word "shar"="good"(sometimes also "beautiful") as of the same origin/roots with the ukrainian "gharniy"="good/great/fine/nice/excellent/wonderful/amazing/gorgeous/beautiful", most close related to the ukrainian "gharniy/gharno/gharna"(-niy/-no/-na is an adjective ending)="good" is mazandarani "xar"="good/fine", kurdish "haure" for "friend" is surely also connected with that word-root, in hutsulian you can say "gharen"="good (in the scence of helpful/worthful/useful/needable)" and it's origin goes back together with balochi "shar"="good" & kurdish "gaura"="big" to elamitic "rshara"="great". that bashkardi-garmsirian word "gohrt" fits really good to another typical ukrainian word "gurt"="group", a group is big so synonymous to the meaning big/large, in kashan county (part of isfahan province in central-iran) is used the local word "gurd" for "big", the zazaki and mazandarani equivalents are "gyrd" & "gat", the zazaki word for "group/drove" is "garan" and tajiki for "group/team" is "gurökh", by the way that word "gurt" i really think has etymological ties to the ethnonym "kurd" cuz there are 2 versions explaining the ethnonym of the kurds either with the meaning collected group/extensive group of related tribes/people-group or a more chauvinistic meaning like the big ones/huge and strong people=xurt (of course the most common theories about kurds' ethnonym is that it came from an adopted word from iraq "kard" meaning "nomad" used by arabs and persians for kurds or it came from the name of a mountain range in southeast-turkey "gudi/gurdi/giordi"), but there is also kurdish "gurz" & "xurdjik" for "bundle/sheaf/bunch/bale/batch/fardel/bavin/bing/wad/faggot/posy/bouquet/cluster/wisp/bindle/shiralee/sheave/fascicle/pack/stack/stock/tuft/clump/pile" what plays also a role in the etymology or meaning of ukrainian "gurt" & another kurdish word "giredai"="bound/tied/bonded/linked/ligated/trussed/attached/twined/annexed/hitched/corded/knotted/combined/enlaced/connected/fixed/enmeshed/clasped/catenated" too, probably together with two other kurdish words "gerdene"="collar" & "gerdani"="jewelry-chain". there's another word that is only typical for ukraine "khata"="house" what shares the same origin/meaning as the yazdi-behdinani word "khäda/khda"="house" and sorani-kurdish "ghat"="house"...............
@ReinCarnation-yu4je
@ReinCarnation-yu4je 7 күн бұрын
the hutsulian word "daraba"="raft/float/catamaran/bobber" is generally of westiranic origin (maybe also with some influence or a bit fusion of slavic in that word), it seems that "daraba" is identical to oldpersian "daraya"="sea/river" and the second meaning of "daraya" in oldpersian was "holder", it's possible that from a mix of slavic "korab"(or romanian "corabie")="ship" + achaemenidic westiranic "daraya"="sea/river"(the second definition "holder" could really be also included as a factor in the scence "something that holds one on the water") resulted "daraba" (for example in german is the word for river nearly the same as for float/raft too), there's also a similar word in kurdish "derav" for "water-channel/watercourse/water-ditch", furthermore a relevant role could play here kurdish "zorava"="torrent/creek/beck/swollen-stream/raging-current/gush/flush/rapid-brook/mountaintorrent/waterrace/whitewater/fastflowing-stream", also important for daraba's etymological process seems to have been kurdish "därabe"="podestal/podium/stairtop/landing/landing-platform/landing-place/dais/base/socle/platform/stage/stand/resting-place/stage-riser/plinth/enclosure/palisade/stockade/paling/railing/fence/louver/grating/grid/lattice/grille/trellis/graticule/espalier/fender/handrail/balustrade/parapet/tafferel/banister/rail/breastwork/barrier/blockage/cove", on the other hand is in first case "daraba" most likely a combination of 2 westiranic words (like tajiki or persian) "daro"+"aba" and would be understood as the "enter/input/influx/addition/entrance/lead-in/ushering/insertion/interpolation/inlet/access/ingress/way-in/passage/pass/transition/transit/transference/committal/admission/admittance/accession/bringing-in/reaching/entry (for or to) the water" or "dar"+"aba"="given one (for or to) the water", but more possible is the combination of kurdish "dar"="wood/timber/lumber" + "ab"="water"(also romanian "apa"="water" is here possible because it's surely an iranic sigynnian word that came into the proto-romanian language), that would be resulted in "water-wood/water-timber" (in the scence of a water-board), one last possibility is behdinani "dyr"+"aw", what you can understand as "something for being distant in the water" or "something that gets far via the water", i think the more plausible etymology of daraba is the kurdish combi variant. the ukrainian and hutsulian "kulish"="thick soup/pottage/millet porridge with meat,mushrooms,tomatoes"(in the carpathian version the porridge is done often from maize) is said to be mostpossibly of hungarian "köles" origin but alternatively it can be of westiranic median origin when you compare it with northern kurdish "keli/kelink"="something simmering/boiling/seething/cooked/scalded/fumed/cookable", that kulish/kulesha/kulisha/köles is of median proto-kurdish dialect origin can proof the word-meaning if you compare it with some other indoeuropean languages' meaning of the words millet & grits and related words to millet like germanic hirse, gries & grütze/grits or slavic grechka, these words have originally the meaning "made warm/heated" so very close to kurdish "keli" by meaning, but etymologically kulish and köles are very close to "keli" or "kelink", that dish has to be originally from southwest-ukraine/northwest-romania (most likely transcarpatia) so some hungarians have lived in the western border-near zone there in some times. an ukrainian verb that came at least 1000 years ago from southwest-ukraine/north-romania into the language is "shanuvati"(-vati=verb-ending)="to be a fan/admirer/liker/follower/honourer/lover/appreciator of someone" and has roots in iran, it's identical to persian "jan"="dear/liked/adored/favoured one" & "soul" but in older persian 2000 years ago it sounded like "hyan", the kurdish equivalent is "chan" and "chänik", in ukrainian dictionary "shana" is translated as "the feeling of being esteemed", also the romanian word "chinsti"="to honour/esteem/appreciate/adore/value/respect" proofs that the original word (of shanuvati/shana & chinsti) was from east-carpathians/north-romania because you can see that -sti is a word-ending and that word is surely not of a romance language origin and also fit well together chinsti with kurdish chänik, oldpersian hyan & ukrainian shana, the germany/poland-theory about that word is not sure...............
@ReinCarnation-yu4je
@ReinCarnation-yu4je 6 күн бұрын
in western-ukraine is sometimes used the dialectical word "chugha"="ungrown mountain", it's related either to gilaki "quh"="mountain" or talishi "sygh"="stone" (taleshi and gilaki are neighbour-languages from northwestern iran) or kudish "chiya/shax"="mountain" or kurdish "qyj/qysh"="rock", but that talishi word "sygh" is of the same origin and close in meaning related to another word, to hutsulian "chughilo"(-ilo is an noun-ending with adjective character)="notch or indentation in a stone" and "flowstone", both ("sygh" & "chugh-") have actually the meaning "stone", they are similar so hutsulian "chughilo" is of median talishi-alike (atropatena-media) dialect origin, but also of proto-kurdish origin because there's a kurdish word "qax"="indentation in a stone or rock", it is even much closer in the meaning to "chughilo" than the talishi word. another hutsulian word is "dyadühna"(-na is an adjective ending but it's an noun)="fever", there's a possibility that it's of westiranic median origin because it could be identical to balochi "thäf"="fever" or kurdish "tehn"="temperature/warmness" or on the other side it could be related to kurdish "därd"="illness" (if you see -ühna as a word-ending). the ukrainian and hutsulian word "gudzik"="button" came really sure from median leki and zazaki alike dialects, you can compare "gudzik" with zazaki "gozage"="button" & leki "gijik"="button". the second meaning of "gudzik" or "gudz" in hutsulian and ukrainian is "knot", it's connected with kurdish "gurz", "xurjik", "gerdene" & "giredai", that means with the meaning "something that is tied up tightly" but the r disapeared in hutsulian "gudz(ik)" (probably like for example the r from kurdish "därd" disapeared in the hutsulian "dãdühna"). the hutsulian word "galica" or "galicya" for "snake/serpent" and "gala" when it's a "viper/asp/adder" could be identical with the persian meaning and etymology "lair/den/animal's construction or burrow/fox's earth/hidey-hole/bolthole/safehaven/cocooning/loophole/shelter/covering/layer/coating/sediment/seepage/ooze/silt/alluvial sand/quicksand/driftsand/fluidized sand/flowing ground/mud/squidge/brickearth/clay/sludge/slurry/slop/pulpy mass/barbotine/engobe/muck/loam/gunk/pise/quarry/argil/mushy dirt/soggy soil/alluvium/suspension-load/grime/slush/slime/pug/gunge/gloop/sloshy mess/silting/casting-slip/slipperiness/messy semifluid matter" and is called "gel" in persian, that word has a characteristical connection to hutsulian "galica" because a snake has a behaviour/comportment/nature/character/attributes/properties/features/peculiarities/appearence/look that fits to persian "gel" like for example in the scence of behavior 'sliding/gliding/burrowing/crawling/wriggling/slipping/seeping into or under something like sand or soft earth (like dug soil) or a hole or a pile (of leaves)', also are many snake-kinds (like pythons,gaboon-vipers,copperheads,green-anacondas,some boas,some cobras,etc.) known for 'having a coloured camouflage' (some are even known for changing their colour between day and night), a snake is 'often in a hideout or camouflaged' so another word the kurdish "hilan"="hidden/preserved" have to be also related to it, or in the scence of appearence/look & palpation/tactuality but also style of the motion/agility/movement 'slick/slippery/smooth/glibbery/squidgy/supple/sleek/sludgy/squishy/slippy/slithery/pliant/pliable/malleable/gungy/smeary', a snake is (or moves) as 'flexible as one can knead muddy clay', so -ica in "galica" is a later slavic female noun-ending that was combined with "gal-" what is related (via sigynnian language intermixing in the east-carpathians) to persian "gel" and kurdish "hilan" (verb "hilanin"="to hide oneself from someone") and also to zazaki "chale"="pit/burrowed or digged hole/groundhole/hollow/cavern/cavity/fosse/rift/trench/shaft/duct/slot/underground mineshaft/burrow/gully/excavation space/dig/recess/foxhole/sewer/ditch/dugout-shelter/funk-hole/pothole/delve/lacuna/grave/graben/sump/tailrace", i see here some similarities with the kurdish verb for "to burrow/dig/grub/excavate/trench/mine/carve out/delve/sink/scoop/gouge/rift"="kolin" & kurdish "qälish"="cleavage/splitting" & kurdish "xali"="hollow/cupped/vacant/concave" & kurdish "kulek"="grave". further relevant could be here for seeing better the whole spectrum the kurdish "qul"="hole" and mazandarani "gäl"="soil" and kurdish "gol"="heap/pile/stack/accumulation/deck/spoil/overburden/load/mass/mound/soil-embankment/deposit/detritus/rubble/landfill/tip/midden/termitarium/molehill/dumped material/scrapheap/manure-hill/compost-mound/woodchip-load/discharged bulk material/bulk commodity/bulk-items/staple-goods", also important to mention is kurdish "qalik" for "shuck/husk/pod/case/legume/capsule/sleeve/peel/shell/rind/carapace/cortex/peeling/periderm/furfur/scab/crust/bark" and that seems to share a close related meaning and etymology with the persian word "gheld"="shell/case/cover/husk/peel/dust-jacket/wrapping/pod/casing/packaging/cocoon/outerlayer/cover-sleeve/sheet/shielding/envelope/protective film/peelable coating/sheath/key-pouch/encasement/jacket-flap/mailer/courier mailing bag/shipping cover/file/document-protector/binder/sachet/gusset-bag/wrapper/giftpaper/insulation-membrane/tarpaulin/shrinkwrap/poly-liner/pack-pod/clamshell/stupe/wrap-compress/fometation-pack/turn up cuff/pocket/insulating protecting material" or persian "gelaf"="etui/carry-case/glasses-case/passport-wallet/purse/travel-pouch/jewelry-casket/dopp-kit/pencil-box/tabatiere/needle-tin/cycling-softcase/sheath/clutch/organizer-bag/coffret"...............
@ReinCarnation-yu4je
@ReinCarnation-yu4je 6 күн бұрын
noteworthy could be also persian "galiz"="viscid/viscous/sizy/ropy/syrupy/molassesy/tight/dense/hampered/bulky/rubbery/gooey/poor-flowing/slow-flowing/sticky/tenacious/stodgy/pappy/chunky" what is probably close related to persian "helt"="mucus/sputum/phlegm/slime/mucilage/goo/guck/glutinous viscid mass", persian-speakers in afghanistan use the word "xelm" for "snot/gob/loogie/expectoration/mucosity/gobbed stuff/mucopus/rheum/purulence/excreted pus/ulcerousness/mucopurulent discharge/sanies/pimple/hickey/bogey/slimy booger/nasal secretion/phlegm/mucus/snuffle/lump of sputum/lung-cookie/sticky mass/catarrh", that is connected with the kurdish word "zäliq"="glueing/adhesion/glutinousness/tackiness/adherency/stickiness/splicing/pasting/adhesive bonding", one can mention that a snake moves forward in it's habitat like it's kinda glued on the surface and on the tree too without falling down somehow in the scence that 'it looks like if it's always adherenced or sticked to the surface', furthermore has a snake similarities in the appearance with a "belt/strap/razor-strop/boom-strop/tether/vang/shoelace/gun-sling/lifting-sling/mountaineering-cord/galoon/festoon/ribbon/bond/ligation/lanyard/tie/tapeline/strip/cord/streamer/garland/tape/vinculum/ligature/line/band/bandage/brace/warp/wristlet/circlet/chain"="qulanch/qol/jol" in kurdish or a "streak/hank/strand/skein/stripe/line/shank/leg/extremity/arm/limb/bough/tail/pigtail/hair-lock/tress/twirl/curl/plait/braid/coil"="guli" in kurdish, interessting here are 3 things that kurdish "qol" can be translated as "(paper)streamer" what in switzerish literally means "paper-snake"="papier-schlange" (or in german "decoration-streamer" literally means "air-snakes"="luftschlangen) & kurdish "qulanch" or "qol" can be translated as "sling" what in german is "schlinge" and etymologically the most close to "schlange" what is again a "snake" (etymologically related to it is also russian "shlanga"="hosepipe") & french/english "queue" has many meanings like "tail" or "rodstick" or "stalk" or "pigtail" or "waiting-queue/waiting-line" that shows the synonymousness also to the meaning snake because in german "schlangestehen/warteschlange/menschenschlange" means "waiting-queue" and is literally translated as "snake-standing/waiting-snake/human-snake" and also german "menschenkette"(literally "human-chain") is almost the same as "menschenschlange"(literally "human-snake"), so there are 6 main options of which meaning is directly related to hutsulian "galica/galicya" and that is either "shell/casing/covering/etc."(the camouflage) or "hole/grave(could stand also for the unexpected deadlines of a poisonous strangling snake)/hiding/etc."(the hideout) or "pliable clay/sticky ooze/viscous gloppy substance/etc."(the attributed features) or "dug land/dirt or loam heap/pile/etc."(the habitat) or "slimy expectoration/sputum/mucousity/etc."(the snake-venom) or "ribbon/belt/line/etc."(the look-similarity). the second meaning of "galica/galicya" (another variation can be "galüga") in hutsulian language is "parasite" and "bad harmful worthless one" what has the same origin and meaning as kurdish "zilo"="parasite" and that really might be a close related word to kurdish "xiler"="dirt/filth/mess/smut/grunge/feculence/grime/pollutant/muckiness/smudginess/drek/ordure/smutch/sully/ash-dust/rubble/scuzz/squalor/foulness/trashiness". the third meaning of "galicya"(also known as "galman" or "glota") in hutsulian and lemkian language is "crowd/multitude/throng" and is related to kurdish "gol"="accumulation/pile/stack/mass/overburden/bulk/load" or shahmirzadi "xale"="many". some have the factless/unlogical opinion about the hutsulian word (that already is integrated into the ukrainian language) "legin'"="youngling/teenager/subadult/adolescent/youth/younker/stripling/youngster/pubescent/springchicken/man-boy/juvenile/fledgling/minor/teenybopper/teen-boy/bachelor/greenhorn/boy/youthful young male" that it comes from the word "legionnaire" but it comes without a doubt from a proto-zazaki or zazaki-alike ancient dialect from media and is identical with the zazaki word "layik/lajek"="young buck/young adolescent/young fella/knave/sonny/boyo/boy/whippersnapper/callow-youth/junior/youngster", "-in'" & "-ik/-ek" are just male noun-endings, i think the romanian word "flacau(sh)"="fellow/boy/young man/callant/youth/bachelor/youngster/gossoon/swain/teen/adolescent/young buck/sirrah/buster/sonny/schoolboy" is also of the same sigynnian origin or influence (if you take away the f at the word-beginning it would be obvious), also the hungarian equivalent "legyeny"="young man/stripling" has a origin with sigynnian background (most likely from transcarpatia or far northwestern romania where hungarians lived too). "gun-barrel" is a new word/meaning but it's somehow surprising that in kurdish and hutsulian it doesn't sounds so different, in hutsulian "lüfa" and in kurdish "lüle", that point what is the gun's opening/exit (called gun-muzzle or gun-point) is in the second scence also understood as "lüfa" and in kurdish "point" means "lutqe" so sounds halfway similar too, "lüle" & "lüfa" had originally the meaning "tube/pipe" like in kurdish it's until today so, that's what's interessting for the next word, ukrainian and hutsulian "lüľka" or "lüla" what means "tobacco-pipe", "lüla/lülka" can be seen obviously as of the same origin as the kurdish "lüle", but it's possible that the word came to ukraine not through the sigynnian but through the turkish language that has that adopted word from the persian language but interessting is anyway that "lüfa" and "lüla" differ only in one letter and have both the main-meaning "pipe/tube", the armenian music instrument "blul" is the same as kurdish "bilul", both mean "flute", my opinion is that the word-stem of these words is westiranic "lul-" (like of the word "lüle"="pipe/tube/gun-barrel") and not "bil-", so another similar kurdish word "bilur"(there are also other variations like "blur" & "balur") a traditional pastoral-seminomadic kurdish "shepherd-flute/caval-flute/syrinx-flute" shows a kurdish or generally iranic l to r sound-shifting, then there is the romanian word "fluier/fluer/fluir/fluiera"="pipe/flute/whistle" what really seems to be identical to kurdish "bilur/beluer/blur/balur" (the romanian sound f is here in kurdish the sound b), so maybe that romanian word has also sigynnian influence or roots. the last word is hutsulian "bardka" for "axe" while in the "modern-zoroastrian" behdinani/gabri language (spoken by the behdinan people in yazdi dialect) "barda" is translated as "spade"(including spade-chisel?), they are surely related words from media kingdom originally because of the similarities in the appearance of a spade with a hutsul-axe, a parallel example to it seems to exist and that is kurdish "ber"="spade/trowel" compared to kurdish "biwr"="axe" or kurdish "peraw"="pickaxe", the romanian (mainly in bukovina region used) word "baltag"="axe/hatchet" compared with kurdish "bel"="shovel/spade" is maybe another such parallel example (in the case when baltag is not a turkish borrowing but anyway it wouldn't be a word of real turkic/proto-altaic origin but a loanword that came into turkic from sakian or sogdian or wusunian but that -ag ending speaks for a typicalness of the balochi language that has often that dispensable additional word-ending).
@MarianTofan-vl3ts
@MarianTofan-vl3ts Жыл бұрын
Un alt caz este cel al Goralilor.
@MarianTofan-vl3ts
@MarianTofan-vl3ts Жыл бұрын
Daca tot vreti sa prezentati ceva spuneti de cand li se spun hutuli si ruteni.
@moisei1365
@moisei1365 Жыл бұрын
astaaaaaaa, așaaaaa, în loc de mulțumesc, nuuuuu!!!?
@Aron-eu3cp
@Aron-eu3cp 3 ай бұрын
Māāā da undi i ukraina pi timpu asheala, cî tot sî pomineshti numa di Rushi...!!!?? 😄😆🤣🤦‍♂️🙆‍♂️ Shi Shtefan cel Mare tot asha grai vorbea shi se numea shi se numeshte limba Moldoveneascā ☝😉😄
@amic9516
@amic9516 Жыл бұрын
De Ciumarna nu ai zis,este o comunitate mare de hutuli.
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 Жыл бұрын
Ba, am amintit și de Ciumârna , în treacăt... Dar la cât de mult am vorbit acolo , e posibil să nu fi pus accentul tocmai corect pe unele cuvinte .
@amic9516
@amic9516 Жыл бұрын
@@paulenache7595 Hei,nu era un capăt de țară
@dalenamag09
@dalenamag09 Жыл бұрын
Din Ciumarna mi e draga o hutula Angelica Flutur. Cinta muzica populara.
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 Жыл бұрын
Chiar apare într-o imagine din film... pentru câteva secunde .
@iustinianadumitroaie5058
@iustinianadumitroaie5058 Жыл бұрын
Acest sat este în comuna Vatra Moldoviței, care este amintită la început!
@teodorgrajdian8211
@teodorgrajdian8211 4 ай бұрын
Melodia de fundal cum se numește?
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 4 ай бұрын
Este o variantă masterizată a celebrei ,,Huțulca" - cântec popular al acestei etnii....
@teodorgrajdian8211
@teodorgrajdian8211 4 ай бұрын
Cum o găsesc?
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 4 ай бұрын
@teodorgrajdian8211 Eu o am înregistrată de la o formație a unor prieteni , dar cred că dacă dai căutare pe KZbin găsești mai multe variante ale acesteia. Cauta chiar asa - HUȚULCA
@teodorgrajdian8211
@teodorgrajdian8211 4 ай бұрын
@@paulenache7595 un link ceva?
@teodorgrajdian8211
@teodorgrajdian8211 4 ай бұрын
Un link ceva? E faină versiunea
@ioanherbil834
@ioanherbil834 Жыл бұрын
Și Eminescu a fost huțul...
@OliverMatus
@OliverMatus Жыл бұрын
Cum ai aflat ?
@marinalmasan1304
@marinalmasan1304 Жыл бұрын
Chiar asa! Cum ai aflat?
@moisei1365
@moisei1365 Жыл бұрын
min. 3:39 "ouălelor"!? asta-i pre limba huțulească, sau cum vineeeeee!? altminteri, interesant...
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 Жыл бұрын
E... ,,din cauza vitezei" ! Am văzut și eu că am citit greșit, chiar de la montaj, dar n-am mai avut timp ( și nici chef ) atunci să reiau tot pasajul, pentru că și așa rămăsesem fără suflu de la cât am vorbit ... Suport consecințele ! 😁
@AA-qf7pk
@AA-qf7pk Жыл бұрын
Nu inteleg dar de ce gutulii seamana tare cu romanii
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 Жыл бұрын
Pentru că se pare că avem strămoși comuni ( Carpii - o parte din dacii liberi, care trăiau chiar pe acele locuri ).
@ovyokam4409
@ovyokam4409 2 ай бұрын
Ști tu ceva, dar nu totul lipsesc multe sate pe care nu le ai menționat, mai documentează-te...
@vyacheslavbaron1231
@vyacheslavbaron1231 Жыл бұрын
Hutulii sunt valahi ucrainizati
@steliannistor1878
@steliannistor1878 Жыл бұрын
Nu au cum sa fie “ucrainizati”cind ucraina ca Tara doar din 94 e declarata tara…Formata dupa Al 2-Lea razboi mondial.O facatura ca ucraina,creata de urss,fara istorie si fara cultura Nu are cum sa obtina o ramura de traditii si oameni atît de vechi..La fel si Moldova de peate Prut.
@ursuletulvrancean7544
@ursuletulvrancean7544 Жыл бұрын
@@steliannistor1878 Nu a existat Ucraina, dar au existat ucrainienii. 😂
@ekesandras1481
@ekesandras1481 Жыл бұрын
@@ursuletulvrancean7544 cei popoare mici slavici din Carpați de nord sunt ceva între ucrainieni, polonezi și slovaci. Ei pastrez niște tradiții destul de vechi și cultural au mult in comun cu români carpatici.
@ioanalexandrucuza3748
@ioanalexandrucuza3748 Жыл бұрын
Din păcate am întâlnit o huțancă, cunoscuta în societate, dar fara CARACTER. Când ajuți un om, speri sa dai de valoare, să te respecte, să aibă minim șapte ani de acasă, să aibă bun simt. Din păcate această huțancă A.F., NU are nici șapte ani de acasă, nu are RESPECT și nici bun simt. Poate alții sunt de calitate, dar ființă asta, este de cea mai josnică speță.
@paulenache7595
@paulenache7595 Жыл бұрын
Nu putem să judecam o nație întreagă după comportamentul unor indivizi ! Pentru că nu există pădure fără uscături... și la ei și la alții, dar și la noi .
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