Ak 47 vs M16 Power

[@PaulHarrell]

There has been so much commentary I am forced to clarify: Bumble bees can fly, I've seen them do it. my point was that sometimes the "book" doesn't reflect reality. Sometimes the "book" has info that is outdated, irrelevant, or just plain wrong. Don't base your life on the "book" I should have made that clearer.

[@firemarshaldil]

this is a greeat video that could use a remake in HD. =]

[@AndyJ0n3s]

Paul Harrell I think it was perfectly clear what you meant. It’s always possible to quibble with the details of metaphors and some people really get off on it for some reason.

[@Glasher1]

But what does the "book" say about the two Bumble bees doing the do on my driveway?

[@wingracer1614]

There is a reason that comment about bees gets a lot of hate from some people. There are a lot of people that like to use it as evidence that science is wrong and BS. The problem is the quote they are using to base their attack on actually is complete BS. Science and engineering can explain bee flight quite well. The quote comes from a couple engineers that were talking in a bar one night, did some back of the napkin calculations and determined that bees do not have enough wing area to support their weight at usual bee air speeds. You know what else has that characteristic? Helicopters. A bee is not a fixed wing aircraft, it's more like a helicopter and they failed to take the flapping of the wings into account. What they actually showed is that bees cannot glide worth a damn, which is true. Yet the anti-vax, flat earth, anti science, creationist types just love to bring out this quote anytime someone challenges them on their ignorance and BS. And of course, it tends to trigger those with more than two brain cells.

[@longblacktrain777]

I thought the Bumblebee metaphor was excellent.

[@Gun_Talk]

Pick one and you will be happy. Pick both and you will be happier.

[@johnlefucker9323]

Not true, once you get both you say, "Shit I think I need an AR47."

[@motoz30]

logic that applies to many fronts.

[@vinceruland9236]

@@johnlefucker9323 that's exactly why I built a 7.62x39 ar15. It is an amazing rifle!

[@1959jimbob]

@@vinceruland9236 This is the first time I have seen any vids from Paul, so I am still digesting what I saw. But my point is, I was thinking as I was watching that someone should figure out a way to marry the two platforms. Sounds like you might have done just that. Do you think that one could do that but the other way around? In other words, the 556 on the AK platform?

[@vinceruland9236]

@@1959jimbob the AK74 is pretty close to that. It fires the 5.45x39 round which is very similar to the 5.56. I've never shot one but I've heard really good things about them. Ammo is not as readily available but it's out there.

[@tomharrell1954]

This totally proves i don't want to get shot.

[@CMDRSweeper]

Of course! Just get into something like an APC or a tank first and then it will change into a noise plinging situation instead.

[@jmck5930]

Correct hypothesis

[@killpilger]

Pffft. I get shot in Far Cry all the time. No biggie.

[@starcraftremasteredreplays2089]

just respawn

[@i-never-look-at-replies-lol]

That's what everyone says until they try it

[@Reabies1]

Years later Paul's videos are still the best firearms analysis you can find.

[@Kinotaurus]

I've just watched this video for the second time in a few months.

[@Downhaven]

And still nothing changes, lol.

[@ebrorson]

@@Downhaven Correction, ammo is much more expensive. Some things change

[@Hjerte_Verke]

@@Downhaven Do you mean no one learns anything? People are still ruled by their presumptions and myths.

[@Downhaven]

@@Hjerte_Verke I only meant it in the context of OP. "Years later Pauls videos are the best" I commented years later saying they were still the best. Honestly don't read too much into it, lol.

[@Max-zr7hr]

Well this really exposes the flaws in my log cabin body armor idea.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Max 😁

[@richardtravalini6731]

A stone house is what I always wanted but could never afford. Vinyl siding, particle board, insulation, drywall and oh yeah, paint, are not bullet proof. Sadly!

[@MikeJones-nv3iz]

😂 😂 😂

[@theplinkerslodge6361]

Har!

[@nunzioification]

@@richardtravalini6731 depends how many layers, NEVER sand before painting, and use that atom bomb resistant stuff from the 40s or 50s

[@carlrabe4384]

Love how his "informal" tests are more "real world" and feel more accurate than most others! Not to mention, he wants us to draw our own conclusions! Well Done!!

[@KI.765]

@j s it's better than some other channels that'll just flat out tell you what to think, or they'll speak as though they're infallible.

[@rodneymoore7270]

I was told in training that using trees as cover is a death wish. Dirt and sand do much better.

[@devilrobrob]

i like this guy. has an old school movie quality and personality to it/him

[@monroetoolman]

He was a Marine ;)

[@HATINTHEKAT]

coulda swore he was army

[@monroetoolman]

Both actually.

[@Adamz678]

That type of quality is lost nowadays and what I would consider very valuable to find in new production. Thus I would say, good work Paul!

[@wigon]

Yup, I also complimented him in the past about his awesome 80's vibe that he gets in his videos. I"m guessing he's shooting with VHS or has some really high-end filters or an old tv studio camera hooked up to a digital video recorder. I use to do this with an old RCA TV studio camera with a vacuum tube in it that I would hook up via an analog video/audio input on a digital camcorder. The results looked similar to this. At any rate, I love his 80's retro style. Literally a blast from the past! lol

[@Tainomontana]

1995 Isuzu Rodeo for sale, has some minor scratches & dents on the doors most of which will buff out.

[@Gizmo42Rodeo]

Only driven to church on sundays. Through the hood.

[@Tainomontana]

Gizmo42Rodeo not even in Chicago will you get scratches like those. That’s a Middle East daily driver

[@agoraphobicadam1171]

@@Gizmo42Rodeo I laughed so hard I was crying. :)

[@dougerrohmer]

Imagine trying to sell that thing to a salvage yard with no explanation.

[@cam553]

These, and Surfs, Bighorns, and Terrano Pathfinders are still on the roads in the South Island of New Zealand.

[@benm8973]

I absolutely love that these videos look like they came out of the 1990's education industry but are so spot on and informative

[@Mayhapse]

Wow, this channel is completely underrated.

[@j.p.9522]

Totally agreed, his content is outstanding.

[@minnesotanice369]

Mark Turkali it's the best kept secret shhhhh

[@Bryan_Kay]

GunsOfThePhoenix don't forget ol hickock45!

[@modestoguillen8584]

Bryan Kay pistol as colt antiguas

[@Bryan_Kay]

Modesto Guillen no comprendo mi amigo?

[@CB-68-westcreations]

The most intelligent phrase iv heard in a KZbin gun performance video... You Be The Judge! Finally a non confrontational Channel. Great video.

[@stanleymoskowitz9517]

Zaza

[@sickofhobos]

Check out forgottenweapons if you want to see a good non political gun channel. You don't get 1milliin subscribers for nothing

[@goodbyemr.anderson5065]

runescapesex yes yes y do, some of the dumbest shit I've seen get one million subs.

[@KI.765]

@@sickofhobos you think a guy who never cites sources for his information is "good"? Okay man. He's a parvenu with a pathetic parasocial relationship seeking following. He is nothing more than that. He's also gotten filthy rich off his patreon stooges, whilst still having the nerve to beg for your money so he can buy more toys for himself.

[@sickofhobos]

@@KI.765 lmao. Have you ever seen his actual blog? He cites sources there. And have you seen his library? It's filled with very expensive books about antique guns. You think he spends thousands on those books and never uses them? You're an idiot. He is more knowledgeable about a wide range of topics than you will ever be. And you know his other channel doesn't have monetization turned on right? Yet he only cares about money and how many followers he has, right?! ....Right....??😏🙃😏🙃 You are genuinely one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on KZbin

[@burntorangeak]

I'm truly curious how Paul came to have such a deep distrust of Fanta.

[@MrGamer21]

Shasta to! :D

[@eriktrimble8784]

It's cheap - as cheap as $0.75 per 2L out where he's doing the shooting.

[@MrGamer21]

@@eriktrimble8784 Holy cow, for real? Man maybe I need to take a trip to oregon to buy some soda in bulk!

[@crashdonlay1891]

He does dental work...Soda is the enemy... or Ally haha 😉😎😎

[@KorvekKorborjordordon]

@@MrGamer21 Shasta soda is piss water

[@timrobinson6573]

I like how this was filmed in 2017 but it looks like 1987.

[@cruzl2977]

😂thats cause Paul is a classic dude 😎

[@jonnyv5428]

Granddad's VHS recorder still works, just have to convert the dead 5 pound lead acid battery for some new lithium.

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

😂😂😂

[@IstoletwotrilliondollarsCIA]

2017 or 2007 ?

[@BigAngryLizard]

Christ was 2017 8 years ago???

[@Leit0]

love the 80's vibe

[@VinnieRed71]

they're both awesome. I own both including an AR chambered in 7.62x39 for hunting and enjoy both equally!

[@doniphan72ify]

Leit0 ... Lol I was thinking the same thing , except I was thinking 70's vibe

[@tonytostada]

Come on guys, it's more of a 90s feel to it. They didn't have Isuzu rodeos during the 80s or 70s. But yeah times have come a long way from those times, back in those days you would have had to watch this info on a VHS video you would have had to mail order, and waited 3 to 5 weeks to receive.

[@tonsssedell4318]

Pure American muscle with Isuzu Rodeos and AKs, with 1990s vibes and some degree of British Top Gearish presentation. The fusion kitchen of KZbin gun videos.

[@mia1shooter]

the fuck are you talking about!?

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

My preference is geographic. If I’m in the states: AR If I’m in the former soviet states: AK It’s whichever has the most replacement parts and stockpiled ammunition.

[@ruinedrx8]

I’m an ak boy through and through, but boy would I hate to have to replace anything on my ak that wasn’t in the bolt, most parts are riveted/pressfit

[@audiotyresup]

I could go with either. Both have their pros and cons.

[@oronk60]

Yeah, I love AKs and they are my preference but it really is dependent on location. If I was living in the states it wouldn't make sense for me to buy an ak especially now with the Russian ammo ban.

[@michael7264]

You mean if you're in literally any other country outside of the U.S.: AK

[@toppermoore1925]

RuinedRX8 you are less likely to have to replace parts on an ak

[@koryaiine7393]

10:05 *_teleports behind you_*

[@justinr2564]

Korya Iine Lmao, great meme... *tips fedora*

[@246trinitrotoluene]

Nothin personnel, kid!

[@cpi3267]

@@246trinitrotoluene *personal I think anyway

[@246trinitrotoluene]

@@cpi3267 You dare challenge my grammour? Watch yourself, kid, I'm also a hacker for the FBI and CAI

[@thepainkiller4939]

@@cpi3267 Nice profile pic, 10 year old

[@AndyJ0n3s]

Bullseye through logs. Vision level: Paul Harrell.

[@SuperRocha18]

He must have some kind of wallhack

[@SGTGGeorge]

He does have wallhack it's permanently on all the time, and punkbuster, anticheat doesn't work for Paul Harrell!!!

[@SirPraiseSun]

baaahahaha

[@mosriteminioncause7741]

The conclusion is... people prefer what they like (usually purchased) and people like to defend their decisions. One rifle is known for its accuracy the other for its dependability. But both now have ( with the help of time/tech) have improved in both areas. BOTH are good rifles.. Great vid as usual Paul!

[@ForgivenMan-jl7bp]

Ak47 vs M16, I say stop asking and go with what you like. I like them both, so I wont be missing out on anything.

[@majormarketing6552]

The one that shoots when you go “oops” and drop the gun. Its a joke honestly how much more you have to baby a m16

[@MS2000LIGHTMARKERDISTRESS]

your actually one of the smarter and all together better channels out there. in sure you will take off soon enough

[@toguro5117]

i wish i found this channel sooner i hope he can get a shoutout from a bigger channel he deserves more subs

[@MS2000LIGHTMARKERDISTRESS]

Very true

[@marshalllyons3371]

Welll he may not have alot of subs but still really cool content I started watching him with the .22lr vs .25 acp where he was talking about how the .25 acp getting shot froma pistol gets compared to a .22lr geting shot from a rifle which is unfair... (learned that when he said it :D ) etc etc lol

[@miserylovesshotguns]

Nearly 5 years later and Paul still has to say "I wear ear plugs with every shot I take" all the time because people don't pay attention.

[@Jeanie363034]

Maybe they were watching the show with ear plugs in so the shot would not affect there hearing LOL

[@Joe-mk3ii]

@@Jeanie363034 maybe they don't use earplugs at the range and now they can't hear.

[@mfallen6894]

@@Jeanie363034 Made me chuckle, ngl lol

[@ptfsno4464]

The bob ross of firearms🔥

[@jamesgeorgeadamakos5016]

And Bob Ross is the Chuck Norris of painting.

[@jamesgeorgeadamakos5016]

Day trading?

[@arrestfauci]

I’d say, the Alton Brown of firearms🔥😯

[@mdcampbell7360]

@@jamesgeorgeadamakos5016 "...and we'll put some happy little rounds down range here..."

[@lindah6954]

the soda was ducking for cover from the AK-47 lol.

[@bigrich7026]

Something not mentioned..the Ak will reliably eat hollow point, lead nose and fmj at will. The cheap stuff. It is very happy with that diet. Try that with an AR. I have tested empirically like Paul has and I have made my decision for my truck gun. M92 Pap. With a streamlight...that simple. I advise shorter mags for in and around your vehicle with extra mags being of the fullsize variety. There are some subsonic varieties of 7.62x39 as well including the interesting 220 grainers. Great Vids Paul. I'm sorry you have so many people giving you crap about your videos and Information. You sir are one of the nicest and most we'll informed presenters in this genre. Thank You.

[@Basedmursenary]

The most underrated gun channel there is!!!!!!

[@briang4416]

Your comment about variability of car doors is correct. I repaired cars for GM for years and disassembled thousands of doors. Typically, the driver's door has significantly more "stuff" in it than any other door.

[@Jrez]

As far as the hydrostatic shock test, I actually though I noticed the 7.62mm making the water jugs fly further than .223 did. Though I suspect the damage appears greater on the .223 because the rounds were faster, they dumped a higher percentage of their force into the water quicker than the 7.62mm, which likely passed through the water slower and thus dumping its energy slower, leading to the water being able to all go through the same exit. Whereas on the .223, the water was forced to find any exit it could and that meant more devastating ruptures on the jugs themselves. This is pure speculation by me, but it would sort of go in line with the 7.62 penetrating further with less interruption of the structure by the bullet. Possibly the combination of lower speed and high energy means the material, which generally "wants" to get out of the way of the round as it passes through, is better able to given the additional bit of time.

[@yamascott]

Your channel is a treat for those of us who are fascinated with physics.

[@Kafkodesu]

Indeed.

[@SirPraiseSun]

im really impressed by this guys effort he records with a vhs tape converts then uploads it online with dialup

[@ggpkgman]

😂

[@rickmanley767]

Hahaha!

[@trujello]

Super8

[@criticalduty2788]

Lmao

[@jimthvac100]

lmao

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

An excellent video, Mr.Harrell, thanks for going to the time and trouble of making it. An important and often-overlooked factor in the performance of these respective rifles lies in the design of the ammunition intended for use in them, in particular standard military-issue ammunition. According to the Geneva and Hague Conventions on Land Warfare, hollow-point and/or expanding projectiles/bullets are inhumane and therefore illegal for use in warfare by the signatory nations. At the time the AR15/M16 and AKM/AK47 were adopted, both the USSR and the U.S. issued full-metal jacket (FMJ) or "ball" ammunition for these weapons, i.e., a lead core surrounded by a gilding metal jacket. As noted in the video, M193 .224-cal. 55-grain for the American design, 123-grain 7.62x39mm FMJ for the Russian one. So far, so good. During the 1950s, the Commanding General of CONARC, U.S. Army General Willard G. Wyman, put together a request for development of a lightweight automatic rifle which was required to meet a number of ambitious design criteria. It's design was to be more-compact and lighter in weight than its .30-caliber predecessors, the Garand and M14, capable of controllable select-fire operation, and firing a smaller, .224-caliber cartridge capable of supersonic flight at 500 yards, equivalent or superior to the M-1 Carbine .30-cal. round in lethality. The weapon was optimized for combat within the envelope of 0-300 yards, but still powerful enough to be lethal at 500-600 yards. In order to meet these ambitious design criteria, chief engineer Eugene Stoner and his team designed a .224-caliber cartridge firing a 55-grain FMJ bullet with cannelure (crimping groove), which was designed to fragment into a high-velocity blast cone at/above about 2700 fps MV. This somewhat unorthodox solution allowed the 5.56x45mm M193 Ball cartridge to be as lethal as its much larger and heavier .308-caliber 147-150-grain FMJ predecessors, while still remaining light and having modest recoil. Stoner exploited a useful characteristic of lightweight high-velocity bullets - their dynamic instability or tendency to yaw and then tumble upon encountering a solid or nearly solid object. All spitzer (pointed) bullets are tail-heavy, and are kept in proper nose-first allignment only by the enormous rotational spin imparted to them by the barrel rifling. Upwards of 150,000 rpms or more. Upon encountering a target, the 55-grain bullet will want to "swap ends," and in so doing, will fragment, producing not one, but multiple wound tracks. Thereby enhancing the lethality of the shot. This fragmentation effect is clearly evident in the barrier testing. The 55-grain bullets make a clean entry hole but fragment and break-apart once they encounter a barrier, just as they are designed to do. The 123-grain FMJ 7.62x39mm round, containing a more-conventional, heavier and tougher FMJ bullet than the American cartridge, holds together better when passing through barriers, although it too does eventually fragment. More to the point, it was not - as far as historical sources tell at any rate - designed to shatter and fragment upon hitting a target. As noted in the video, since the Russian cartridge is traveled at a significantly lower MV than its 55-grain counterpart, this too helps it hold together better than the U.S. projectile. In short, then, we see on display two different design philosophies and two different weapons systems, designed to do basically the same job, but which go about it in somewhat different ways. One using a larger, heavier and slower bullet, the other using a smaller, lighter and higher-velocity projectile to accomplish the same task. Imitation, it has been said, is the sincerest form of flattery. If that's the case, both designers - Eugene Stoner and Mikhail Kalashnikov - should be flattered, because Russia and the U.S. eventually adopted design variants with features from the other side's weapons and ammo. The Russians adopted their 5.45x39, a cartridge very similar in performance to the old M193 55-grain round, for use in their AK74 series. And later on, the U.S. adopted - in special ops units, for example - the 300 Blackout, a cartridge whose characteristics mirror those of 7.62x39. What goes around comes around....

[@justyouraveragefluff2298]

Thanks for the great read

[@gisellesbikeseat]

Thanks for the informative post. I am a fan of both cartridges, 7.62x39 for close quarters, and 5.56 for further reach. I like the dynamics of the AR platform, so I built an AR chambered in 7.62x39. It was my favorite build to date.

[@NCLUSA]

I have owned both and like both. Your videos are really good, you put a lot of work into them, thanks.

[@8MetalMike8]

Excellent video, this demonstrates the flaws in solely looking at a ballistics chart to interpret their significance, say, between the terminal performance of two separate rifle cartridges; quantitative data and real world results should be used together to obtain a better picture of our hypothesis. Correct me if i'm wrong, but the only language that works when objectively describing a cartridges inherent power (more correctly, energy) is it's kinetic energy from the muzzle. However, this doesn't tell us important things like the amount of energy that the actual projectile has left when it hits its target, and how the bullet transfers that energy to a target due to its behavior upon impact. Since this is how a bullet displaces and deforms soft tissue and organs, this is really what we want to know about a cartridge. The only problem is that this is more difficult to measure quantitatively, so to find the answer... we shoot shit to find out :D

[@PaulHarrell]

+8MetalMike8 Well said.

[@Shorby99EK]

My first video i watched from Paul. Hard to believe this was 8 years ago. I will miss you Paul thanks for all the great information.

[@gregm1343]

Definitely my favorite ballistic testing channel by far ...you can tell he is intelligent not just some dunce with firepower

[@scotty362100]

We must have watched two ENTIRELY different videos!!!

[@xDOOM95]

Or your 2nd grade brain is just too stupid to comprehend any of the information in this video

[@RockandrollNegro]

When people ask me "Who's Paul Harrell?" I say "Imagine if Mr. Wizard taught about guns."

[@metallampman]

Good one Marvin

[@allenatkins2263]

Has anyone seen my 1995 Isuzu Rodeo? I went to the range and when I returned to the parking lot it was gone.

[@MrTruckerf]

And who stole the front of my log cabin?

[@goodbyemr.anderson5065]

Hahahahaha that's a freaking good one man. You are really clever and funny.

[@kenkelble358]

@@MrTruckerf Great observation. Thank's.

[@HanSolo__]

I came here only to check out nice Isuzu Rodeo...

[@jshicke]

Wow! I would never have dreamed that the light 5.56mm would penetrate those logs. I'd be dead, as I would have figured I was under good cover, and you just proved, I wasn't. As to your results. I'd say the AK is better at shooting thru heavy cover (cinder blocks) but the AR is better at shredding the shooter on the other side. I'd love to see you experiment done at ranges of 150 yards or more.

[@enanny0616]

Just shows you how lethal both these rounds are

[@KingTesticus]

thank you for shooting that goddam Isuzo Rodeo! i had one of those and HATED IT. so satisfying. thank you!

[@adolphopalacios8020]

KingTesticus hahaha.. come on man, i bet you she gave you a good times.. I used to have a 1997 grey, she gave me a good days

[@FullUhFools]

Did the transmission go out? lol they were infamous. The engines tended to knock some too after awhile.

[@kingschwag4208]

I got that engine knock on our green one.

[@Jazzman-bj9fq]

I rather he had shot either a PT Cruiser or a Toyota Rav4, to me some of the ugliest modern vehicles ever made.

[@keeganwebber]

@@Jazzman-bj9fq Did you forget about the nissan Juke? that thing should be considered a war crime.

[@wildyracing1]

I remember watching this video back in the days, out of pure curiosity. One of the first of Paul's that I watched. Didn't have neither AK nor AR back then, but we had Paul. Now, years past, I do own both rifles, but Paul is gone. I never knew him, but I miss him as if I did.Strange place is this world that we live in...

[@tedd4601]

After reading some of the comments, I can see why, after each test, Paul says "you be the judge." We all judge things differently. That is why I love Paul's videos.

[@KI.765]

He'd be a liar if he tried to tell you any differently.

[@M81_WOODLAND]

That's what I can't STAND about these videos. People seeking knowledge need a conclusion from data based on research. NOT "draw your own f---ing conclusions." Otherwise this video and many like it are almost pointless.

[@HaveBlue08079]

Clicked on this half expecting a Doug Demuro-style car review. "THIS...is the 1995 Isuzu Rodeo. And it is the worst vehicle you want to drive through Seattle in 2020."

[@sadiqshehu4524]

Something I found funny with the jug test (9:34) : M16 : Jugs down AK47 : What jugs?

[@danballard1671]

More shots should follow, to ensue hits on said jugs😜

[@DriveCarToBar]

Mosin Nagant: I burned down the house with my muzzle blast and impaled the offending jugs with my bayonet and let the fluids of my victims flush the corrosive primer salts from my bolt face.

[@smolboyi]

someone else noticed!

[@rossfromfriends8468]

That’s why the western countries like 556, easier to stitch up the enemy of ya need to

[@recneps8672]

@@rossfromfriends8468 lol no its not. 5.56 exit holes are some of the nastiest due to tumbling.

[@UncleDanBand64]

Dang your hide. That's the last time you are borrowing my car and I mean it this time Paul.

[@anthonyoer4778]

Quite your bitchin'... I'm sure he topped off the gas tank before he returned it.

[@MrTruckerf]

Well, you know that window that would not roll down anymore? Paul fixed it for you.

[@curtb.]

@@MrTruckerf too funny!

[@UncleDanBand64]

@@curtb. 😂👍🇺🇸

[@UncleDanBand64]

@@MrTruckerf yes he did😂👍🇺🇸

[@Zeddo2323light]

Is this video underrated? You'll be the judge ;-)

[@jagai]

Your videos have consistently been unbiased, logically sound, and greatly entertaining. I'm glad to see how this channel has succeeded over the years. Keep up the good work!

[@Boomproof]

Damn it I really like the way Paul explains stuff. You have to admire his care for detail.

[@jacobstaten2366]

And he's clear. It is a barbarity that clarity is a rarity.

[@Boomproof]

@@jacobstaten2366 Nice!

[@GreyGhost-r4z]

What did your neighbor say when you brought his truck back ?

[@michaelanderson1859]

You should have seen the look on my dad's face when I was in college. My friend with his 12 gauge and I brought some 00 buck in 2 3/4 inch and 3 inch magnum and some bird shot. We went out in the woods ran out of targets and took my hubcaps off. Shot the hell out of them and put back on the car. Dad shook his head and then had to chuckle especially when we told him about the rattlesnake we shot and grilled.

[@MikeBrown-go1pc]

Great vid here. They are so close on most of these tests besides cinder blocks that you can't really tell. I believe the 7.62x39 has more "knock down power" out to a certain range, but at my skill level the5.56 NATO is a more predictable round at 150-300 yards than when I shoot the 7.62x39 out of my SKS. The 5.56 flys a more true path through the air because it drops less. The AR-15 seems to be far more user friendly with the way everything is set up than the times I have used AKs too, but AKs and the SKS are easier to strip and clean. EDIT: If it was a fight inside 100 yards I would want a 7.62x39 chambered weapon with high capacity detachable mags. If it was going to go past 100 yards I would want the AR-5.56. Since you don't really know how far a fight could be, I'd take the AR even though I actually like shooting my SKS better.

[@davidsonpedro1494]

Both caliber has put many man six foot under, don't wanna get shot neither.

[@Holret]

but if you had to pick?

[@Holret]

you cannot get hit and the leg and exit wound on the chest.

[@KB-kw8ni]

Holret great job showing your ignorance

[@Holret]

show me evidence and sources please! then we will talk about "ignorance"

[@frogboots2115]

Holret You can, 5.56 are DESIGNED TO DO SO. They're designed to shatter and tumble bouncing around your body creating the biggest amount of damage possible. If you dont know the stuff, don't talk please

[@nosfctech]

Hey brother I found your channel a couple of days ago! You are really a hidden gem of guns community! Excellent content , very informative and very calm voice! You should be up there with the biggest gun channels on KZbin! I hope this will happen before the feminazi youtube boss bans everything! Just to make sure, start uploading on full30. I love what you do and I don't want to see it gone! Keep it up man!

[@ccol009]

I swear Paul’s good well thought out tests are timeless and will be relevant for a very long time.

[@aaroncarlson5637]

They both did the job.if they didnt armys wouldnt have them

[@brittanylovestheoutdoors4043]

Not assault rifles. Sporting rifles

[@benlaskowski357]

Thank you.

[@SavageHenry777]

@@brittanylovestheoutdoors4043 Any weapon is an "assault" weapon if used in an assaulting role. Any weapon is a "sniper" weapon if used in that role. These distinctions are not as real and solid as the ignorant would have you think.

[@brittanylovestheoutdoors4043]

@@SavageHenry777 an assault weapon is a full auto I use an ar 15 in 3 gum matches at my local gun club kettelfoot rod n gun and the term assault weapon is offensive to me in current times .

[@SavageHenry777]

@@brittanylovestheoutdoors4043 I got you, yeah "assault rifle" suggests to me there's a fire selector as well and the fact that people confuse ARmalite with Assault Rifle must be annoying.

[@gabegu5102]

I would say if a car is the only cover u have try to stay near the engine

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

The engine should keep you safe

[@codyjackalope8464]

Watch the forgotten weapons video on the minigun. The short answer is yes and no

[@benlaskowski357]

Yes.

[@JerryEricsson]

Indeed, grab that front tire and hug it like it was your best girl.

[@HRHAF]

But...wont it blow? 🤣

[@chriskellas2902]

This is one of my favorite Paul videos, I thought the log cabin would have provided better cover... guess not! I really like both calibers and think they are very effective. Even though I own and enjoy shooting both I always considered .556 to be on the wimpy side, but after seeing this I have much greater respect.. Thanks for all you do Paul!

[@leokimvideo]

I learned now that no soda bottle has a safe place. Arguments about the ak47 vs m16 will persist for the rest of history.

[@henryrodgers1752]

Excuse me!! According to Paul, they are soda “jugs” because it’s more fun to say “jugs” than bottles. Try it: jugs jugs Jugs JUGS!

[@terrencewrigley8860]

Hickok45s conclusion was both are fun to shoot

[@cameronnorton5898]

+Frogboyattacks... They usually are. Or they used to be anyway.

[@57HEMIviken]

hickock45 is a presenter NOT reviewer I stopped watching him a long time ago anyone who gives charter arms a positive review is not trust worthy

[@collinhennessy1521]

+O4 HEMI It's pretty hard to fuck up a cheap, basic revolver. As long as it shoots when you pull the trigger, what is there to complain about?

[@gatoblanconzful]

O4 HEMI i agree. Hicock doesn't have the detail

[@KiRiMa64]

Yup,I own both and will continue to buy both platforms!!!

[@onenikkione]

which one won the battle? both are "military type assault rifles" that many politicians & fellow country men don't think we should be able to own. that's the real battle.

[@davestrom3598]

Come on now ,,definition of assault rifle contains the words fully automatic not "fully semi automatic

[@angrypatriot5392]

@@davestrom3598 THANK YOU.

[@user-pf3kv4bv5s]

How it should be by the date of their creation AK-47 vs M14 AKM vs M16 AK-74M vs M4

[@Wolfwolveswolf]

onenikkione, Actually, as our great 2ND AMENDMENT state's in our UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. Both of these Rifles should be totally legal in our UNITED STATES for us UNITED STATES Citizens (a G-d given Right to be exact), even if they happen to be both automatic firing Rifles, or both happen to be called- Ringy Dingy Super Tootally Assault Bublinky Cooting-licious Rifles. The only problem we happen to have- is the pro-commies who are infiltrating our UNITED STATES Government, all for their certain fellow traitorous people in the UNITED STATES- who wish to be a gun-less, powerless, defenseless, helpless, hopeless, repressed, controlled, tortured, easily slaughtered, totally doomed people, and who also happen to all be birds of a feather with the pro-communist North Korean way.

[@BloodyBamPot]

ᛁᛚᛋᛅ ᛏᚱᚢᛏᚾᛁᚴ that’s a great point! Kinda speaks volumes about the AK I think

[@J3susWithaGun]

We lost one of the greatest, today rest easy Paul

[@Mmyers1177]

Paul I like what you are doing with the channel. Your non-decisive approach in evaluating a better product is refreshing! Keep up the good work brother. My advice or IMO: 1) Use AK-47 for targets close to you 2) Use M-16 for targets farther away 3) Use both if you can’t figure it out

[@jstidham1985]

ak for things close then 308 or 30-06 for those things you need to reach out and touch.. lol.

[@KoishiVibin]

1: Use an AKM. Better in literally every sense of the word. 2: NEVER. EVER use surplus M43 or MSC ammo from China. It is low quality and will consistently produce very poor terminal. 3: Remember that M855 and M855A1 are velocity dependent. Drive them fast and they rip into targets.

[@thelastminuteman7513]

I had a 95 Isuzu Rodeo. Also around 2015. I liked it it was simple and easy to work on.

[@Yadidoo]

Once again, thank you, Paul. Rest In Peace. You were a real one.

[@sheldonbass4238]

Good stuff. Always wanted to fire an AK-47, but this demonstration satisfied a bit of my curiosity. I fell in love with the M-16 in the Army simply because I was able to qualify as expert with it, so it suited me well. Apparently, teaching kids to shoot with BB & pellet guns from a young age serves well for later on. My best Christmas ever was when there was a Remington semi-automatic tube fed .22 rifle under the tree with my name on it.☺ Thumbs up!

[@davereid5533]

Thanks for a great video. I have shot Deer with both calibres (from bolt action rifles .223 Howa 1500 and 7.62x39 Ruger) and they have both done the job. But the 7.62x39 visually seems to hit them harder, they run less, and drop faster. I'd say the .223 is a lovely flat shooting round, but its probably marginal on deer, where the 7.62 at moderate ranges just whacks em. I love both rounds, and its always a last minute decision as to which rifle goes on the shoulder.

[@ninemimesleft]

Where I am we can't legslly use 223/556 to hunt deer.

[@DANVIIL]

AK has more knockdown power.

[@karlhans6678]

I thought since the .223/5.56 tumbles it would do more damage to the deer?

[@BaconSlayer69]

@@karlhans6678it’s simple physics it’s a lighter 22 caliber bullet whereas the 7.62 soviet is a heavier 30 caliber bullet it doesn’t take a genius to know which one got more stopping power

[@altumpaul]

Lol he said 6" peter pole with a straight face

[@jsb2y]

Tee hee.

[@TheKentuckyPatriot]

Still to this day one of the best videos ever uploaded to KZbin!!!

[@shawnpatten6515]

Still is.

[@UncleWermus]

Cinderblock test M-16: 31 shots to penetrate bunker AK-47: Inconclusive; bunker destroyed

[@KoishiVibin]

*loads M855A1 with piercing intent*

[@tyjax5119]

Norian Arijuna *Laughs in MK318 MOD 0*

[@ChoseDeath]

AR-10 HAS ENTERED THE CHAT

[@KoishiVibin]

@@ChoseDeath It is then quickly forgotten about, just like real life.

[@ChoseDeath]

@@KoishiVibin 😂😂 A'int that the truth! I have never figured that out, but that's always been my experience.

[@MBKill3rCat]

Would love to see a remake of this video comparing the effectiveness of 7.62x39mm and 5.56x45mm on the new and improved meat target with high-tech fleece bulletstop.

[@cameronnorton5898]

Hey Paul, could we get some info on that car? Condition, mileage, where it came from?

[@PaulHarrell]

Condition: Bad. However it does have some custom ventilation. Mileage is high and where it came from? Japan I guess. And yes, we've upgraded camera equipment since this was filmed.

[@cameronnorton5898]

Paul Harrell Thanks.

[@applejacks971]

Carfax?? :) 'No odometer rollback or flood damage reported'

[@cbrooks2767]

@@PaulHarrell The Rodeo was most likely made in Lafayette Indiana.

[@TheJuan72]

Good engine, transmission, front end . needs some doors tho

[@poppabear9279]

Notice Paul even got a bullseye on the AK target shooting blind through a log cabin 😂😂

[@kathryntruscott6351]

7.62 better on deer.... .223 better on smaller game.... Horses for courses.... but either round will do the job on either target. Both arms are fine rifles.... take your pick or better still get one of each!

[@doniphan72ify]

Kathryn Truscott ... There is much more hydrostatic shock in the 5.56 round if your hunting deer tho . Yes smaller projectile but the shock it causes to the tissue around it cannot be matched by the AK round . Lol yes if you want to shoot through cynder blocks than by all means the AK should be your choice . I've taken deer with an AR ,an ,AK , a .270 Winchester , and a .30-06 and the .223 performed as well as the larger cartridges and in actuallity the AK actually performed the least effectively of all the rounds . I had to track the deer about 300 yards , even though I hit him directly in the heart/lung . The .223 dropped him as did the .270 and .30-06 . And I know I didn't shoot from the same distance and all that stuff but still , those are my personal experiences .

[@Adrianbonjour]

Get both !

[@joshmvfx]

@@doniphan72ify My grandfather went deer hunting with an AR-15 in 5.56, and then an M1 carbine in .30 carbine. Despite the 5.56 being half the weight and 2/3 the diameter, he said they dropped deer much quicker and made nastier wounds because they tumbled and fragmenting like a hillary clinton speech.

[@misters2837]

@@joshmvfx: Well for a long time in my state neither of those calibers were allowed hunting deer. (Rules were .23 caliber centerfire or larger, and NO .30 Carbine...Mostly because they were considered too small and weak for the job.)

[@mojavedesert-ul3jo]

Why do shooters get into the mine is better than yours debate? 9 vs .45, 1911 vs. Glock, AR vs AK, "It's the Indian, not the arrow!" Train more! If you have enough money, buy both!

[@ZIGMAN775]

+mojavedesert3381 I'm a yes man myself

[@carlcampbell6827]

+mojavedesert3381 - Right on. We need to justify having an ever expanding armory in order to fully appreciate the specific firearms. You are my kind of guy. By the way I love taking a few days to go out to Mojave. It is an inviting and pretty magical place. The California City golf course is fun.

[@wigon]

I love M16's and AK's both equally. But I prefer hunting with my SKS (which like the AK-47 is also 7.62x39mm although my SKS has a fairly long barrel). I just find that my SKS seems to take down hogs extremely reliably and decisively. Plus it's cheap and robust so I don't need to fuss around much with it or worry about it getting all banged up.

[@strandymusic]

wigon, do you hunt with open sights or did you add a scope? If so, what mounting system did you use? I recently purchased at SKS that seems to group shots pretty well at 100 yards but that is from a rest of course and also difficult to use those iron sights! I had to use a pair of computer reading glasses to get any focus on the irons...

[@ChuckHydro]

Buy a mount made by Promag (yes, I said Promag a word I thought I would ever hear coming out of my mouth, they cannot make a mag worth a shit but their Scope mount is top the line) it's available through Midway. Don't even think about those pieces of junk that replace the top of the receiver, they are certifiable junk. I know, I have owned them both. The receiver one's start out alright but will inevitable get loose and lose their ability to remain sighted in as the mount gets loose and begins to wobble. You Will be a happy camper and depending on the rifle you own can show some pretty dam good accuracy well within the specs of a 300 Meter combat weapon! You're right. the combat sights suck for us afflicted with "aging" eyes and hard learned wisdom. If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself (truthfully probably not, but is was a nice thought). However I had more fun than a barrel of monkeys and I was the Head "Bonzo"!

[@PalKrammer]

Nov. 2024, coming here to watch a classic Paul Harrell video. Those water jugs were hilarious. Rest in peace, Paul, and thank you.

[@chackmule4998]

I can’t believe he made a Bee Movie reference, what a legend

[@KPMACHINE1]

Good comparison! Thanks I’ll throw a little something out there that I did and kinda happened by accident. I ordered a 7.62/39 upper for my m16 to just blast ak ammo. Well I kinda liked how it shot so I happened to have laying around a piston kit that would fit. So it morphed into the M16/AK piston drive. Now when I’m feeling confused I just take both uppers to the range.

[@cbftoan01]

It's amazing how much effort you put into this video, I'm so impressed.

[@somegreatbloke]

...but he messed up the car doors experiment by rolling down the window of the second front door...so the AK47 bullets had to go through a glass window extra.

[@bubblegum2996]

Dead center through a log wall, Damn! John Wayne is that you?

[@davidowens5863]

Is this me?

[@Bearclaw_Jake]

@@davidowens5863 who said that?!?!

[@JohnDoeRando]

@@Bearclaw_Jake Who the f*** said that!?!?!?

[@bassettraceengines]

Good job, My take is you would well armed with either gun!!!!

[@nateperkins1297]

I have to say that I haven’t watched a million “ gun “ videos , but of all I’ve watched this cat is BY FAR the best shot in the crowd , he pulls up shoots and hits shit

[@Quality_Guru]

There has to be a problem with the space time continuum on your channel. The 20 minute video shrank into what appeared to be 3 minutes and I felt that I went back in time to emerge in the present knowing more than when I started this trek with you. Nicely done - No flash All substance!

[@hyperbole5726]

Did you record this video on VHS?

[@btcave]

He used to use a DVD camcorder. Since this video he has upgraded the camera to a GoPro.

[@COMB0RICO]

The 80s feel is cool!

[@hotrodray6802]

get a life 🙄

[@spookypunky]

Jealous you weren't born in the 80s?

[@travisbirck]

I have to say, from the first second, I appreciated the true 90. Perfect angle. Perfection to every detail

[@mattmorrison9379]

the gallons of water that were shot by the ak were blown out of view of the camera.. that to me says alot

[@davidh9659]

Means only one side split and the other did not = water out one side = rocketing away. Does not tell you a whole lot though.

[@triumphant39]

The 7.62x39 weighs more like between 1/3 and 1/2 more han the 5.56. No, you cannot carry twice as much 5.56 for the same weight. It's more like 300 for the 7.62x39's 200. Is that a factor? Of course, but it's by and large small fry. About 6 or about 8 pounds for 200 rounds of one or the other, more relevant for military morale than for personal use.

[@Holret]

it means there was enough force to kick the shit out of it.

[@PaulMauser]

That doesn't say anything. If you punch someone they will move with force, but if you stab them they might not even notice at first even though you are doing far more damage. That's why the 5.45 was called the poison bullet.

[@ModernWarflare]

I love AKs but I'll take the AR because I'm tired of dealing with mag issues. Some AKs have tight mag wells that like steel mags and other AKs have more open mag wells that require polymer mags to avoid wobble. My AR ins't as reliable but it's much more accurate and I know that any mag I ever find will fit perfectly. Also, I can carry a lot more 55gr ammo than 123gr ammo. Anyone that doubts 5.56 effectiveness is extremely ignorant.

[@rahowarrior73]

RIP Paul, we will miss you sir!

[@MarineVeteran99]

If I'm by myself. I'll take an M4/M16A2/AR15. If I'm with a group. I might take an AK-47/AKM just to add extra firepower for the team. I actually like both firearms.

[@af7119]

As a video game player, this video produced some of the legendary sound effects used in both COD and BF.

[@burtvhulberthyhbn7583]

your testing shooting through 2 car doors and 3 sheets of plywood is just frikkin' brilliant in my mind. this has to be the best comparison test I've NEVER thought of.

[@JohnyBravo44]

I’m a professional retired military with 9 years “boots on the ground” in Iraq and Afghanistan, I watched your video and I can’t imagine why you would conduct this very cool test with an obsolete M193 Ball 55 grain cartridge. There is a good reason why U.S. Military switched to 62 grain M855 Green Tip in 1980s. In Iraq I was often issued MK262 77 grain Sierra Match ammunition for longer, precision shots with 20” M16 platform sniper rifle (photos available). I would love to see you record part 2 of this presentation using M855 (old and new M855, redesigned around 2010 with triple the size of the Tungsten penetrator) and MK262 ammo.

[@PaulHarrell]

The 7.62X39 was FMJ. To make a fair comparison I had to compare it to 5.56 that was also FMJ. If I used 62 gr. Steel core I would compare it to 5.45X39 with the approximate projectile. But I don't own a rifle in caliber 5.45X39

[@stankaramol6693]

I fully agree with you .

[@stankaramol6693]

I agree but then you open up a whole new spectrum to the discussion.

[@tenshiabse]

I love how tha AK makes everything fly away

[@liberty9348]

It's funny, that the deciding factor for me, was not the difference in terminal ballistics, easy of use, accuracy, etc, etc, etc. It is ONE difference that made THE difference. Although it rarely rained in Iraq... the wind would blow all the time. This gets sand damn near everywhere. Just a little wind and sand would take my M4 out of a fight. Scary and frustrating. I still have nightmares about hearing the bolt scrapping and jamming in the receiver and being unable to return fire. Just my experience and opinion, but I will only use an AK 47. It is a work horse I can RELY on with my life. I can't say the same for the AR. I have since then watched Robski perform his torture test on tons of different AK variants and manufacturers both USA and other country made rifles. There is no way an AR produces the same results with the same brutal abuse. The issues I had with my M4 in combat were also experienced by many others. Perhaps new M4's or a different AR platform would have performed better in the less than ideal conditions....but that's what we had and that's the experience I got. Even the ARs I owned back home would produce random failures in near perfect conditions. The choice for me is still VERY clear. I have also sold every AR I owned because I am certain the AKs I have will not fail me. Another significant factor to me is that the 5.56 NATO cartridge was designed to allow infantrymen to carry more ammo. That means it was NOT designed to do more damage than what we used previously. The data shows that the vast majority of shots fired in combat don't hit bad guys. I've been in plenty of combat and I agree with that data unfortunately LOL. Having more ammo essentially wins this battle of attrition in the mind of our leaders back in the 60's with good reason. Knowing what we do today, thanks to channels like Paul's, it is that shot placement is the key to stopping your intended target. We could have easily continued to use the bullets and weapons we had and spent the money on TRAINING. Effectively making the shooters' hit ratio greatly increase. That "would" have been a better expenditure of funds in my opinion. Today, that thought process doesn't make much sense to me. A soldier can easily carry a full combat load (210 rounds = seven 30 round mags) of 7.62x39 OR 5.56 NATO. We also don't fight like we did in WW I, WW II or Vietnam. We don't have massive numbers of ground forces running into each other and shooting it out. The engagements we do have are small in comparison. SO, it will ultimately come down to shooter ability rather than cartridge of choice. Even today, the money is better spent on training instead of designing a new platform/cartridge. Think about this... even 200 years from now, when we have laser guns that dish out way more "power" and shoot in a nearly straight line for 1000M, it will again, come down to shooter ability.... which means the money should be spent on training as always.

[@WarNoob755]

I have heard of people running their ar's without oil in order get around the dust issue. Did you ever try that? If so what was your results?

[@liberty9348]

@@WarNoob755 Yes, I did. The results were mixed. It did resist the sand and dust a little better, but would have OTHER failures due to the friction between parts.... which is what the oil is meant to prevent. So trading one problem for another wasn't a good solution in my opinion. My results with the rifle in combat were purely in a desert... so it's probably the worse spot you can take it. Back home in the US, it runs far more reliable, especially if you're not on top of a truck the whole time exposing it to all the stuff that is flying around. The AR platform is a good system, no question. I just prefer the AK for my 0-300M weapon slot. Hope the info helps.

[@WarNoob755]

@@liberty9348 it does thank you.

[@Americantilltexassecedes]

I never get tired of Paul's vids. Unbiased, dry humor and unlike most of the gun channels, he knows what he's talking about.

[@jeremy8715]

Any reason you picked the AK47 over the 74 with this comparison. I'd think the 5.45x39 would be a more comparable round against the 5.56x45.

[@bly4233]

Jeremy Rhodes The 47 is much more common over here.

[@XXL-b7k]

5,45х39 патрон 7N6 со стальным сердечником имеет более высокую пробивную способность чем 7,62х39 за счёт более высокой поперечной нагрузки (отношение массы пули к площади поперечного сечения). На западе эти патроны считаются бронебойными хотя они такими не являются. Специальные бронебойные патроны 7N10, 7N22, 7N24 с закаленным сердечником имеют ещё более высокую пробивную силу. Пробивают тяжёлые бронежилеты с любыми бронепоастинами. sorry for Russian language.

[@mmccarthy9458]

Overall I would have to say its a wash. AK does a little bit better through barriers while AR causes more tissue damage. AR is probably better for combat in the plains and open field while AK is better for jungles and areas with foliage and obstacles.

[@theofficialempire4610]

the question isnt tissue damage its which round puts the enemy down quickest. A bigger heavier bullet going at fast speeds will always put somebody down faster and with fewer rounds than a smaller but still fast bullet due to the amount of energy it will disperse over its target. It doesnt matter if the enemy dies in 3 days time if they can still shoot at you now

[@JesusPaidItAll]

I could watch gun videos all day.

[@Alex9501950]

I love your videos. Everyone of them looks like a 1980s training video. I think it's bs how much crap people give you. A lot of your thinking is less modern than other information out there but it derives from an impressive career and you work hard to provide realistic footage, unbias opinions, and ample feedback as to how most of these tests contain lots of unseen variables and should be taken for what they are. Keep up the great work.

[@michaeldruitt9280]

Great test, did it start something like: "Honey can you pick me up a used car and on your way home grab some cinder blocks to put my pot plants on and some soda?" 'Opens gun locker'

[@anonymouse3471]

the best test was the log cabin wall test ; it clearly demonstrates how 5.56 rounds will tend to tumble and stop after hitting any decently solid target whereas the 7.62x39 will go straight through the log cabin wall and just keep flying straight. That said which is better 'tactically' is still more a question of application than anything else. You can carry a bigger combat load of 5.56 ammo for less weight and the smaller round with less recoil allows for the shooter to more easily stay on target and put out a high volume of fire. Another big advantage of 5.56 is that it's more adaptable to longer range engagements. AK-47 is the king out to 300 yards but past that you aren't going to hit anything whereas the AR can function out to 1,000 yards in theory.

[@uppitywhiteman6797]

I love how you set up the car experiment. Very clever, slick.

[@LegendaryWoke]

Paul goes through so much to test stuff you cannot leave without hitting the like button on his vids!

[@SuperGlocker77]

Nice video Paul. I always enjoy your presentations.

[@Caliell]

What I wish to see is test of M4 vs AK74 models since M16 and AK47 platforms are going into the history for newer generations.