Shooting .38 Super in .38 Special and .357 Magnum Revolvers

[@johnreep5798]

“Just because you can put it in there, should you?” True for so many things in life.

[@michaelblacktree]

LOL

[@firestorm8471]

Well it fits dammit !!! 😳

[@justinpennington7682]

@@firestorm8471 its always going to fit .bit will stretch a mile before it rips a inch

[@firestorm8471]

Stretch is good,,,,,,very, very good..😎

[@justinpennington7682]

@@firestorm8471 10lb people come out of that hole . Your 6 0z weiner isn't going to stretch anything

[@RandOm-ro2gb]

I can't believe you're gone. Thank you for everything.

[@vapingmonkey2529]

Ikr, I’ll miss him so much.. I’ve learned so much from his knowledge of firearms

[@CAepicreviews]

I think I've seen more of him in this past month or so than I ever had. Wish I had kept up with this guy when I had seen him here and there over the years. And now, he's where a man belongs.

[@ragnarlothbrok9133]

This question never crossed my mind but I happily spent 28.5 minutes listening to the answer. Well done as usual. Thank you for all your content.

[@moreparrotsmoredereks2275]

Seriously. I don't own a .38 Special or a .357, and I seriously doubt I will ever buy a .38 Super. Yet I find this extremely interesting anyway.

[@texas66]

Suddenly my 357 mag cut for moon clips can shoot 4 calibers!!! 357 mag, 38 special, 380acp, and 38 super!!!! Thanks Paul! 👍😉

[@mateoocampo3165]

@@texas66 And .38 Largo. And 9×21? 9×23 Winchester?

[@CHMernerner]

Time flys. Especially it's about wheelguns

[@flysubcompact]

My favorite Paul videos are like this one, where he gets super autisty. :)

[@lashlarue7924]

We love you Paul, get well Sir!!

[@siciliancapeverde4646]

It’s still hard to believe that Paul is no longer with us. We truly lost a great man, and firearms genius. I’m honored to have been a subscriber to his channel since the beginning, and I will continue to enjoy Paul and his infinite wisdom. Paul was definitely the Godfather of firearms. Rest Easy to the late great Paul Harrell. 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@mattpence5655]

Yes we did I love watching his videos anytime I get a little high on my horse about gun knowledge we truly lost a great man but thank goodness for KZbin in this sitch now many more people are going to be able to learn from this gooden 😢

[@mattpence5655]

Had a great thought how about twenty years from now when wokeism is long gone the people will be asking why on earth does this guy use all the crazy extra speak

[@brucebergstresser3973]

I've been shooting for 51 years and 'know it all' especially about old school guns & ammo. Then you come along and teach me something new. Cut it out already, my brain is too full as it is! Paul, thanks for keeping it fresh every video. Thanks from a 73 y/o shooter. 🧡👍

[@308dad8]

@Henry Murphy Thanks for the reply. I didn’t know that 38 Super is even higher MAP allowance than 357 Magnum but isn’t that the way things go? Someone wants similar velocities out of a smaller cartridge and the result is even higher pressures.

[@johnwaddell4107]

I’m I in koi hi by but I 7:42

[@NORTH_CAROLINA_REAPER]

​@@johnwaddell4107 what???

[@ericoverdorff8880]

​@Henry Murphy just curious, how can the 38 super have higher pressure than the 357, but be 200 fps slower?

[@deucedeuce1572]

@Henry Murphy Damn, big difference over the .38 Special. Had no idea there was that much of a difference. Most revolvers can handle much higher pressures than the ammo they were designed to shoot... but that don't mean people should chance it. I had an x-brother in law shave down .357 magnum rounds to fit in his .38 revolver. I assume it was a .38 Special revolver, but he had to shave the .357 mags all the way down to the case to get them to fit... and if it was a .38 Special revolver, then they likely would have fit without having to be shaved down that far... so I'm not 100% certain on the real caliber. (It didn't say the caliber on the revolver itself). Would have loved to see the POS try to shoot it with those rounds in it though.

[@mr.rogers5586]

Rest in peace Paul ! Thank you for all the info you have given us over the years.

[@BigBing1987]

This is a good visualization of why "stacked tolerances" are important. if a manufacturers chamber is on the high end of the tolerance scale and the ammo is on the low end of the tolerance scale the overlap will allow this to "work"

[@BeingFireRetardant]

As someone who's given years to the factory, I can agree 100%. Thousandths matter...

[@davidharris9077]

Exactly. Good comment.

[@DaveL9170]

@@BeingFireRetardant yep. Thousandths matter!!!! An example of this is the Knights Armament SR-15 rifle and why it is so much better than ANY of its’ competitors. They just work and tolerances matter significantly when it comes to firearms.

[@Scorch1028]

@@DaveL9170 Yes. Because we're talking about "gunpowder", I concur that thousandths matter.

[@lonewolf2364]

. 38 super falls into my 1911 perfectly.

[@MrTheBigNoze]

Can we appreciate how the entire loading/unloading segment was continuous and uninterrupted? Paul is a master presenter.

[@deucedeuce1572]

Definitely no Yankee Marshall. lol.

[@DeviantOllam]

Did not expect this to be so fascinating but damn straight I was hooked when the testing of various ammo against various cylinders started!

[@DeviantOllam]

@StringerNews1 hah, yes indeed! 👍😁👍

[@NathanDeckinga]

2 of the most information dense KZbin content creators in 1 video...

[@MongooseTacticool]

Same, I don't particularly care about lift systems, but I still watch your videos about them, as its very interesting :)

[@LeonSteelpaw]

Surprised to see you here man

[@Aaron48219]

Ah, red leader checking in on this channel today too. Are ya out of Scotch Deviant? Also, may I suggest Glenmorangie Nectar d'oR?

[@markarcher2441]

Another masterpiece from the real expert. Timely content too. A friend of mine just got a whole case of 38 super for free. He has a Ruger GP100 357. His friend told him “it will work.” I will share this with my friend and he “can be the judge”. Thanks Paul

[@sanders194539]

The only problem I could see with firing .38 super in .357, is the hammer striking too deep in the .38 super primer, which would cause it to potentially burn out the back of the case. This seems unlikely though. GP 100, L frames and N frames are very strong revolvers so they should have zero problems with .38 operating pressures.

[@gregb6469]

If I got a case of .38 Super Auto ammo free, I'd be out looking to buy a .38 Super Auto pistol to go with it.

[@jrobson100]

@@gregb6469 No shit, a Rock Island arsenal 1911 in .38 super is $475. I looked it up and saw cases of the ammo going for $475 at minimum.

[@timlindskog2440]

Good excuse to buy a .38 super government model!

[@rayburn8282]

Love my gp100, built like a freaking tank. I know that's been said thousands of times but it's true

[@weijingburr2392]

The only honest content left on KZbin. Regardless of subject matter. Thank you sir.

[@jebediahkerman8245]

Sincere, thorough, informative. It is hard to find channels like this anymore.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

There’s lots of honesty and truth out there but you need to know where to look. The biased google government with their ridiculous community standards make it very difficult to find because they have taken it upon themselves to decide for us what they believe we should and should not see and hear. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@randomfist797]

This is objectively untrue and hero worship. There are plenty of honest, wholesome and knowledgeable people making content on KZbin. I love Paul but he’s not the last good guy on earth.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

@@randomfist797 Think they're just giving him props for being a solid guy. We live in strange times. Perhaps a some somewhat tedious, and maybe a little pedantic, diatribe on random specifics is exactly the sort of reliability we need... Paul is the anti-hype guntuber. And it's refreshing in a sea of product and tactics videos. Maybe the best part is his solid use of reason as his favorite weapon.

[@imjustaguy8232]

I have a channel about scalping and scapling activities

[@rickm4295]

God Bless Paul Harrell. I love this guy and always will, he is just the best.

[@emmettdibble8404]

Mr. Harrell is a national treasure.

[@BlueJayWaters]

Paul is probably the only person on the internet who I can watch the tedious process of trying to load multiple different revolvers with unintended ammo, and actually be entertained.

[@noelstephenryan4837]

He is a true professional and fantastic instructor who holds your attention.

[@infinitefurbs]

Am I the only one who appreciates Paul picking the correct cartridge out of his pocket by feel at 4:26 ?

[@robertdunlap7641]

The man is a true Pro

[@Anonymous8421]

As soon as I saw him do it I was impressed, typical Paul

[@nyc10021]

I’ve been shooting for 52+ years. I learned something new today. Great presentation.

[@thehoneybadger8089]

The light primer strike may have been caused by the fact that the rim on the 38 Super should be about 0.009" thinner than the rim on the .357 Magnum according to SAAMI specifications.

[@guaporeturns9472]

Exactly.. came here to mention that.

[@davidowens989]

Use a rem 7 1/2 small rifle BR primer and they won't let you down.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

.38 Super rim thickness: 0.050 .357mag rim thickness: 0.060 With .010 inches set-back, it's conceivable that you might get a light primer strike, if all the other tolerance stacks end up being very unfavorable.

[@27dcx]

Something I have learned with my .32 H&R magnum revolver, which accepts .32H&R, .32 Smith and wesson Long, Regular 32 S&W, and .32 short; is that shooting a revolver with a much shorter cartridge than it is designed for tends to create a LOT of fouling behind the small ridge inside the cylinder that the case mouth rests on. This effect is GREATLY increased if you are shooting non jacketed lead bullets. After a few cycles of shorter rounds the longer ones may no longer fit due to fouling build up. Whatever reason you want to shoot the shorter bullets for, in my opinion, is not worth the hassle of the extra cleaning unless as you stated the world has ended and I'm fighting raiders dressed in bondage gear.

[@RockandrollNegro]

It's very useful to have "Swiss Army" guns when you happen upon a store or gunshow vendor blowing out, say, ancient .32 Short or unpopular .32 Magnum for 5 cents a round and you can shoot it in your .327. I once bought 1,000 rounds of .45 Schofield for 20 bucks and use it for range days with my .45/410 Judge.

[@quinnmclaughlin7537]

This is why I'm interested in a .327 LCR(X), but the guns themselves are impossible to find in stores

[@copanobaydoc1986]

@@quinnmclaughlin7537 I miraculously acquired an LCR .327 about three months ago, following 350 rounds of assorted .327 and 32 H&R Mag without one issue, it's now my EDC. BTW, I was gifted approximately 700 rounds of 32 S&W Long and they are fun, accurate round too!

[@Blackout0O0]

Raiders dressed in Bondage gear nice hahaha! Sounds like mad max!

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

The .32 Magnum can also shoot .32 acp but with less accuracy.

[@neverleft636]

This is the best “gun-tuber” channel ever. So accurate and so informative. Not just guys shooting cool guns.

[@pete_351]

Just got off of work and opened a beer. Then suddenly find a shiny new Paul Harrell episode?! What a great day.

[@IRoYaILTY]

Yessir

[@DannLikesFans]

I knew I was missing something!

[@spasticjackson9578]

ditto !

[@ruck27]

Tis

[@BroBurg445]

People keep asking me if I regret buying a S&W .357. After all, it was "pretty expensive". I say "no, it can shoot 2.5 different calibers"!

[@stevenmike1878]

4.5 different cartridges. 38 colt, and 38 long colt.

[@d.mangham5204]

@@stevenmike1878 , even 5.5 "different" calibers, if we count .38 SPL+P separately :-))

[@357-swagnumultramagax9]

@@d.mangham5204 damn that’s true nice

[@andrewsavage1872]

@@d.mangham5204 +p+ perhaps?

[@d.mangham5204]

@@andrewsavage1872, right! The old Treasury Load was a 110g +P+ 👍🏻

[@firestorm8471]

That .357 mag echo across the next ridge was a beautiful thing..

[@mantzbrinkman4780]

Who else in the world does this much testing on such an esoteric question. Damn interesting and even more thorough than usual and that is saying something. There is no one else like PH. He is blazing the trail for us.

[@crooksonpatrol815]

Still watching, still learning. Thank you Paul.

[@kartersidhu7744]

If all my teachers in high school explained with detail and backstories I'd be a engineer

[@marcuschauvin7039]

Engineers never explain much, even in engineering school… which is why i hated engineering school

[@FoulPet]

More likely a writer

[@winnerscreed6767]

I would have retained a lot more knowledge.

[@williamflowers9435]

No kidding!!! Too bad we can’t clone Paul and replace 98% of the teachers and professors in the country

[@rodrigoroaduterte9415]

No wonder. I AM an engineer and while being a student I hated lectures with pure theory and loved ones where practical application of all those formulas was explained.

[@timblack131]

A revolver episode, heck yeah! Good stuff Paul, thanks for the upload!

[@johncharlton1210]

As someone who likes to consider entirely too many "what if" scenarios you gave me another solid reason to favor a .357 magnum revolver even if .38 special would be its regular diet. Thank you for being great at what you do!

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Unless you are going for a super light CCW revolver, there is really no downside to having it chambered in .357.

[@Jimmy_Watt]

Paul Harrell is a national treasure, as well as ten thousand more like individuals in the country. We can't let our culture die.

[@DannLikesFans]

357 is not that fun to shoot out of a snubby in my opinion. Stings my hands quite a bit

[@goaway3717]

That's my go to EDC solution, although my reasoning has more to do with my aging hands and wrists and recoil and the fact I've been shooting revolvers throughout the last 40 years much more than my 1911s. 🙂

[@SpamMusubi308]

@@DannLikesFans yup, but the muzzle flash is impressive 🤣🤣👍

[@MarkyCannoli]

Amazing presentation as always

[@Glock-Tec1]

"Battling against a bunch of guys with mohawks and shoulder pads..." Oh, I got a good laugh out of that one. The line delivery and context are just flawless in these videos.

[@capital7586]

Hope you’re doing well Paul. Thank you for the upload!

[@dwheeler016]

The "Don't Do This" warning might have been at the start before the "experts" started using a rubber mallet to pound .38 supers into their 38's.

[@jatpack3]

I believe thats called the Darwin effect. Just in case its not generally assumed... if you use a hammer to load force load your revolver just know that you are doing it wrong. ~ not a gun expert

[@imjustaguy8232]

Wait I can do that? Brb

[@danielhuff1397]

🤣

[@FunkBastid]

She’ll run

[@dwheeler016]

@@jatpack3 You know someone is going to do it.

[@terryschiller2625]

Thank you Sir for the video demonstration. I enjoy learning and obtaining more gun knowledge. I feel that at 67 I still can learn a lot from good people like you. Again thank you Sir and your crew.

[@Vanilla-Gorilla69]

I'm a .357 owner I've never seen anyone test this and give good evidence on whether or not it's safe to shoot .38super. Was told by a guy at the gun store it was safe. Did some research and it wasn't so cut and dry. Thanks paul for the real info and evidence.

[@solodanieltv]

Almost half an hour video that feels like 10 min or less. He was a real didactic teacher. Rest in peace Paul.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

It’s funny, the Sportsman’s Warehouse near me always has enough 38 Super ammo to justify owning one, yet trying to track down a 38 Super Pistol is akin to finding Paul in the woods, can be done, but requires a lot of work

[@einzelfeuer_2855]

What do you mean requires a lot of work? I heard Paul was easy to track in the woods. In fact someone even used the exact phrase "we tracked him easy" lol

[@sheldoniusRex]

Paul is very easy to find in the woods if you're a deer.

[@royharrell1760]

Unless you track him easy.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

Deep cuts...

[@oldnumber5866]

During the great ammo shortage on 2020-2021 I could find tons of 6mm ARC and 6.8 Western ammo on the selves because nobody had a gun that shot those.

[@sirdetmist3204]

I'm from a country where it's near on impossible to own guns but I still love these videos, your in depth analysis of things is very good.

[@theglobalistchannel1471]

How do criminals get it then? You can get it the SAME way lol

[@pulaski1]

@@theglobalistchannel1471 Criminals care a whole lot less about being locked up for 10 or more years. That could be 25+ if you actually _kill_ someone with your illegally-owned firearm, even a burglar _in your own home,_ who needless to say has *_no_* right to be there!

[@theglobalistchannel1471]

@@pulaski1 This is gonna sound dark but, you can't get charged if they can't find the body 🤷‍♂️ I came from a zone with cartel so that's pretty much how things run lol. Since you can't own guns, you can grab formaldehyde into a spray gun. You made a chemical weapon. When you spray that, anywhere on the skin, it makes you in complete pain for 20 mins.

[@pulaski1]

@@theglobalistchannel1471 Yeah, that's dark alright. If you live in a relatively safe country and have a good job, a family, and nice things, like a house and car, then it doesn't make any sense to do something such as owning a gun when it is not legal to do so, and put your entire life at risk just for an illegal weapon. Another problem is that when guns are illegal, the sound of a gun firing will bring the police very quickly, so you might only have minutes to conceal the body, clean up the blood, and repair any damage caused by bullets. ... In short, it's not possible!

[@chuckmiller5763]

move

[@2greeksandacamera]

This needed addressed and Paul handled it articulately like the pro he is.

[@bldlightpainting]

Another good lesson proving whether your ammunition markings are the exact same as those on your barrel, you still need to test every round you place in your firearm and make sure it functions and performs correctly.

[@mattygunn3852]

This man is a great American legend. Period. We love you Paul!

[@TheCharlesAtoz]

As usual, the best of the best on YT-- Paul is the best at what he does. He's a marksman and a great teacher. Those are my words, but you be the judge.

[@R.E.Parker]

Years ago when I was reloading, I would load really nice Sierra 115gr. 9mm JHP bullets into .38 Spl. rounds. .355 v. .357. diameters. I figured if it was good enough for Lee Jurras it was good enough for me. Result: Good accuracy, speedier bullets, reduced pressures. Worked for me -- YMMV. Thanks for an informative video.

[@infogunvault6920]

Very interesting! Some .357 mag revolvers (like the taurus 692) also let you use 9mm ammo with a cylinder swap.

[@eloiseharbeson2483]

Since bullets are typically sized about 8 thousandths larger than the minor diameter of the barrel, I would expect .355" bullets to work in .357" barrels more often than not.

[@shinigami1925]

Paul’s ability to (apparently) extemporaneously rattle off those numbers, and go long stretches without a single “um” or “er” impresses me, every time.

[@DS_Honeycutt]

I hate it when someone is trying to teach me something and they say "um" every sentence, it makes me think that they don't know what they are talking about!

[@buckadillafilms]

the mark of a true orator

[@flightparamedic505]

Great video! Thanks Paul!

[@ultratec66]

Always learning something, when watching your videos, thank you.

[@lornaburns9600]

I have done this experiment with 32 acp in 32 H&R mag and 327 federal magnum revolvers with no chambering issues but in all 5 guns certain chambers would have soft primer strikes resulting in failure to fire. Also none of the guns would eject the cases. So concluded that why do it ,unreliable and hard to remove cases plus no power advantage, if I wanted a easier shooting round I would use 32 long ammo. Totally agree with Paul. Thanks for another great video.

[@thomaspike1475]

I've been shooting guns for over 52 years. It never dawned on me to even try stuffing .38 Super into a .38 Special or .357 Magnum. And now I don't have to try it.

[@mr.lumberjakn3055]

I LOVE your “tedious” explanations, please keep it up, I watch your content specifically to get the FULL story and for your expertise with firearms. Thank you Paul.

[@Lvcian_Guardian]

Even as a US Marine (no longer in service) I still love learning things and this channel has to be one of the greatest explanative channels I've ever seen that truly wants to just give you information, and not just a textbook read along based style but from user experience as well as trial and error. Thank you so much for everything you've taught me Paul Harrell. Never stop being you!

[@trackpackgt877]

6:58 im not a revolver fan but a friend of mine had a S&W model 638 38 special and that gun was a tac driver i loved it even being snub nose i could hit nickles with it at like 25-30 feet it was super accurate! great video brother

[@RT-hi1ms]

I guess it's good to know that, in a pinch, if one HAD to use .38 Super in a .357 Magnum, that it would be possible and safe, with little or no effect on accuracy, depending upon gun and ammo combinations as stated, but it's not something that one should make a habit of. Thanks for the tip, Paul...

[@benjaminshropshire2900]

Yeah. Exactly. After seeing Paul do this, any other situation where trying it would be worth considering would already count as a very bad day, week, year, decade, etc.

[@tarasmithskitchen2614]

I actually love your dawn of time explanations, and scientific method of answering questions. Things like trying multiple brands of ammo, with multiple brands and models of revolver. Sometimes there isn't a strait answer, it's not black and white, or yes/no, and you go into detail as to why that is.... this is what I love about your videos! That does come with the caveat of the fact that I am probably weird, and that the opinions of others can and will more than likely differ from my own.

[@AdventureswithaaronB]

Perfect thing to watch after a long nine hour shift in a mechanic shop, please keep making great videos

[@rickstorm4198]

Easy work. Spent 20 years doing it. Min 12 hour days. Get a real hard job. Be a gender studies Professor. 🤣

[@edbecka233]

Another factor to consider before anyone goes popping off any .38 Super in a .38 SPL cylinder is this: most modern .38 Super ammo is loaded to "PLUS P" pressures! Tolerances aside, the 9X19, .40 S&W/10mm, and .38 Super all have nominally the same rim dimensions, so it turns out that the 9X19 is "rimless", the .40/10 are also "rimless" due to a body taper characteristic, and the .38 Super is a "semi-rim". The same shellholder/shellplate is used for all three. The differences between the 9X19 and the .38 Super are that while they are very close to the same diameter at the mouth, the 9mm has more body taper where the .38 Super has very minimal taper, and the .38 Super case is slightly longer. The .40/10 end up being "rimless" because their body diameter just ahead of the rim is very close to the tapered 9mm, but being a straighter case, their mouth ends up being the right size to hold that .401" bullet. Also, that rim is much thinner than the .38Spl/357Mag rim, which can cause misfires due to the excess headspace presented.

[@Dadof5-4]

About ten or so years ago I had to test fire a gun that someone was arrested with. It was a cheap RG 38 revolver loaded with 38 Super ammo (I don't remember the brand) We put the gun in a vise, tied a string to it's trigger and got behind a ballistic shield and to my amazement, the gun didn't blow up. It fired with no problem. I don't think I would ever consider shooting it in my hands, but it did work that one time.

[@skipper.buchanan]

@RogerWilco99 That's exactly why we have proof loads, which any responsible manufacturer uses to establish a good safety margin. From what I can find it looks like the hottest .38 Special proofs are 29.5K PSI, which could be rather a problem since .38 Super Auto is specified at 36.5K PSI standard, to say nothing of proofing loads. Sounds like it's going to depend heavily on just how much more overbuilding a manufacturer is willing to do above and beyond the already generous margin built in to proofing.

[@Dennisthemenace40]

This was one of the most enlightening videos I’ve watched in a while. I didn’t expect the outcome achieved. It’s good to know what your weapon can do just in case you need those capabilities.

[@scottphipps3577]

"Just because you can put it in there, should you?"... A question I am sure many of us have asked ourselves at one time or another.

[@crazysilly2914]

PEEPEE JOKE HAHA

[@dashriprock5720]

If it don't belong in there I can assure you, that question has never crossed my mind.

[@j.a.gilbertanimalart3978]

Any man who's been around the block certainly has!

[@brianlegg6009]

What an amazing degree of effort this man exerts to answer these types of simple questions. The amount of detail is truly extraordinary. The MOST impressive segment of the presentation was when Paul demonstrated whether or not the different types of ammo would fit into the different types of revolvers WITHOUT getting confused about any of it. Well done, Sir!

[@JapaneseAmericanaJiuJitsu]

Goes to show that if a presenter is passionate about something and is also knowledgeable about the subject beyond the basic points, the audience will be hooked to the end. As always a masterpiece by PH

[@Deadclown45acp]

You know it's a good video when even the "tedious" parts are interesting.

[@pe4958]

27:30 The hornets' nest analogy had me literally LMFAO I agree 100%, Paul And for some tangential comedic relief to this post, one time I had had a couple of brews and decided to see if some ground hornets would enjoy a beer as much as I do so I poured a beer into the hole in the ground leading to their nest...several stings and a couple of cans of wasp spray later I came to the painful realization that just because you CAN do a thing doesn't mean you SHOULD do that thing...

[@edb3877]

Yep... words to live by, for sure.

[@budgetbuyoutmisc.4916]

Yep same goes for my ex girlfriend learned that the hard way just because you can doesn't mean you should LOL

[@pe4958]

@@budgetbuyoutmisc.4916 same...several times over, in fact...lmao

[@hotrodray6802]

Hold my beer and watch this !!!

[@FCV0511]

An excellent presentation on a question that I hadn't even pondered before. I never would've guessed that 38 Super would even chamber in a revolver, let alone eject properly (depending upon the type and the gun, of course). That change in shooting stance got a good laugh out of me, and the comprehensiveness that these videos strive for is always impressive. Keep up the fantastic work, Paul and crew!

[@kings-bay-2902]

Can’t go wrong following this man’s advice on firearms ..

[@MrJacob1981]

This right here was the type of video I love coming here for

[@cadbane1980]

Best gun channel on KZbin. Period.

[@RickSanchezC--ge6fw]

Paul, your doing GODs work and man I wouldn’t even call it work if you love what your doing! Keep up the videos and educational information. The practical application you provide is phenomenal!

[@aandyherr817]

You know, I’ve learned a little bit from Paul here over the time I’ve watched his channel. I may not always be on point watching videos daily, but I always get a little excitement when I see older videos come up in recommendation! As always, good content.

[@chrisgualtieri]

You really do a fantastic job at keeping things simple for your audience of new shooters to understand and at the same time interesting for the more experienced of us. It’s the hallmark of a great teacher. Thanks Paul!

[@edbecka233]

"You were so involved with figuring out whether you COULD do it that you didn't stop to consider whether you SHOULD do It!" The only sane sentence to ever come out of the mouth of any of Jeff Goldblum's characters...

[@nathanmortensen4725]

Paul, I know you’re gone but thank you for everything you’ve done to teach us. You went to extreme lengths for people you’ve never met and we appreciate you now that you’ve passed more than we ever knew

[@Ghiaccio-x1j]

Glad to hear you covering this I always wondered that myself.

[@joepinaglia956]

The amount of time and knowledge you put into this video earned my subscription 👍👍

[@hitmonkey2984]

For the uninformed, a sheet of paper is about .003 of an inch. When he says a variation of .001 of an inch, keep in mind that it's .001 around the whole thing, meaning it's more like .0005 (per side)

[@williamparker8318]

Thanks again for the education. Cheers

[@peterjeffery8254]

I almost inhaled my drink watching Paul's shooting stance for 38 super in the 38 special revolver.

[@snappycattimesten]

16:06 Paul’s words ringing in the ears of every beer goggled chad.

[@Dad_Stuff2004]

Absolutely incredible about the fit of different ammo in different guns.

[@sanchovaldez1111]

Thanks Paul, this answers a question that I had and in particular for my S&W Mod 19 2.5 inch bbl. While I reload, components are still difficult to come by. Commercial loads for defense are really brutal for a revolver originally designed to handle 38 spec and for my ears if i need to use it while the attacker declines to allow me put on my ear pro. 38 sup seems to be a good compromise between 357 and 38 spec +P. Wished you had checked speed loaders too, but I can do that at my local power parlor. I miss the Pop Tarts also. Maybe "Lucky Charms for the man short on skills."

[@jhask64]

I’m still driving a truck for a living and there is nothing quite as refreshing as enjoying a PH video with vast instruction, gunfire, birds chirping, gunfire, cows mooing, and more gunfire while parked on break. Thanks Paul!!

[@organicmaterialsciencecorp6115]

I believe that this gentleman should be given a 1 million viewer award for such a Crisp and thorough presentation. Great job sir.

[@liberaceboiithe3rd5]

I have some of my father’s old .38 Super laying around, was curious about this exact question!

[@thatdamnsamsquanch]

Literally had this the other day at work. A novice gun owner came in looking for .38 special ammo. All we had was some more expensive critical defense. The saw the cheaper box of 38 super and grabbed it up. I had to break it to them that it was the wrong ammo.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

I suppose that's if the had a 38. If it was a 357, maybe? They could have used it.

[@kekeke4467]

This very issue is one of the reasons why ammo is sold behind the counter in my state too many injuries from lack of knowledge (which is different from stupidity).

[@dontworrybout2664]

@@kekeke4467 so you put diapers on everyone because some do not smart things?

[@kekeke4467]

@@dontworrybout2664 not saying I agree with it but that was the reason given

[@brianhakins4692]

My god when he said it doesnt fit, then said "or does it", he really flipped the script right there. Blew my mind.

[@jameslogan6127]

Truly excellent video. I was mesmerized. As a new shooter…starting 2 years ago early on I accidentally purchased a box of 38 Super thinking it was just another form of 38 Special which I could shoot in my Kimber K6s .357 DASA 3” revolver. I never tried to shoot it but discovered it was a different type ammo than I thought. I’ve still got it as you cannot return ammo. Now I’m curious as to whether it will fit and if it does I might shoot it away at the range as I haven’t figured any other way of getting rid of the stuff. Finally, I’ll say there are many “experts” on KZbin and because I don’t know much myself virtually all of them know more than I do but I do think you’re one of the folks truly deserving of the moniker “Expert.” Thanks so much for all your diligent thoughtful efforts and genuine knowledge that you so willingly share here on KZbin. I know I very much appreciate the things you share and I know I’m a safer shooter because of things I’ve learned watching your videos.

[@konnorkuznetsov1035]

Nice little cabin there, Paul. Glad to see the spread coming along. Also- thanks for answering questions I didn't know I had!

[@PPISAFETY]

This topic had never even occurred to me. I don't think I'd ever put a .38 Super into one of my revolvers and shoot it. I was however envious of your Colt .38 Super that has figured in so many videos. I happened to have a Rock Island Armory full size 9mm handgun with adjustable sights, and wondered if I could install a .38 Super barrel in it to shoot that cartridge. So I emailed Rock Island and was pleased to receive a reply that there was no reason I couldn't do that. I ordered up a .38 Super barrel from RIA and an appropriate recoil spring, and when it arrived fitted the new barrel over the course of a pleasant hour. I did have to buy some .38 Super magazines, but it all works great. So for under $200 total I have a .38 Super. It's not a Colt, but it will do.

[@mshort7087]

I bought the Rock Island 22TCM/9mm convertible. With a bit of fitting a standard replacement 38 Super barrel was fitted. The factory hicap RIA mags run all three calibers

[@thermojo5223]

RIP Paul

[@Murph80ci]

Another good one Paul. Ever done anything on the shotgun conversions, like the Short Lane inserts?

[@buddymullins6424]

I have all those calibers I’ve wondered about that for years. But never tried it because I wasn’t sure good video thanks for the info .

[@rifleandcarbine7656]

This has to be the most Paul video I've seen to date. Keep up the good work.

[@cal30m1]

I’m surprised you didn’t review the SAAMI specs with regards to the pressure differences between the 3 cartridges. 38 super being 36,500 psi verses 38 special, (standard), being 17,000 psi. Even the father of the 38 Super, the 38 automatic pressures exceed the 38 special +P, but that another video…

[@Keifsanderson]

This. It was my first thought, before even considering whether it would physically fit.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

Where does the 357 fit in with pressure? I would assume quite a bit more than 38 special, about the ballpark of super?

[@silenthahvulon4937]

@@matthewbeaver5026 357 is 35,000 psi. Also, for completeness, 38 special +P is about 20,000.

[@Chilionloppu]

SAAMI specs also tell that 38 Super casings are .384 in diameter with up to -.006 tolerance (.378 in at lowest), and .357 Magnum chamber is .3809 in diameter with up to +.004 tolerance (.3849 in at highest), which explains why only some cartridges fit in some guns. With enough tolerances going around it is no wonder that they fit, and the pressure difference is practically nothing since they are still tested at 30% above standard, and there are always some variation in pressures due to measuring tolerances of the powder.

[@cal30m1]

@@matthewbeaver5026 the maximum pressure for the 357 mag is considerably higher than the 38 Super. However, it’s never a good idea to fire cartridges in a firearm they were not made for. I have not yet been able to confirm this but many years ago I spoke to a Dallas cop who worked there in 1963. They said at least one of the rounds of ammo Lee Oswald had in his 38 special revolver when he shot Officer Tibbet, was a 38 Super…

[@StudSupreme]

3 min mark: OMG, look at all those revolvers....I AM IN HEAVEN! :-) Definitely a revolver fan. Yes, I'm an anachronistic throwback.

[@greylocke100]

Same here. I prefer the failure drill of a revolver over an auto. Just pull the trigger again, vs the either recock the hammer for a second strike or pull the slide slightly back to reset the striker, then if that doesn't work run the slide to dump the round and feed the next one.

[@Sableagle]

@@greylocke100 True unless you get a squib that puts the bullet halfway up the barrel and leaves it there.

[@greylocke100]

@@Sableagle I think I know the difference between a light primer strike and and a squib. I know you weren't meaning to be derogatory, but there are some folks who DO NOT KNOW. Hence the need for training and experience.

[@Sableagle]

@@greylocke100 Yah, and there's the problem: someone puts a revolver in someone else's hands, thinking there's no training necessary ...

[@gusloader123]

Wheel guns are Real guns! 🙂

[@lindafoxwood78]

Thank you Paul, this is so fascinating to me; how you did everything possible to make sure what the results were. I ran into something with the 32 auto, some were fire in my revolver and some did not. Cool job my friend.

[@LostIn207]

Very interesting, thank you Paul Harrell and team

[@abstaman]

Very interesting. Another piece of info / trivia material I can use when having beers with my shooting buddies. Thanks!

[@jeremy74pow]

I one time fired two 38 super rounds out fo my Taurus 357 revolver. The rounds hit accurately but the cases bulged and split and got stuck. 38 super and 32 auto have a slight rim and will fire without moon clips in a revolver, BUT different ammo manufacturers have different thicknesses in their rims so some rounds may not fire due to light primer strike. I also have a cylinder for my Ruger Blackhawk that fires 38 super but 9mm Largo rounds drop further down in the cylinder and do not fire. So with that some ammunition may be interchangeable but not always. Also DO NOT fire 38 super ammo in guns made for 9mm Largo.

[@jimvac77]

It's almost like you shouldn't fire cartridges in guns that weren't designed for them. Amazing.

[@357-swagnumultramagax9]

@@jimvac77 hehe

[@jeremy74pow]

@@jimvac77 Ruger Blackhawks come with two cylinders to fire 357 or 9mm. I have one that is also made to fire 38 super. 9mm Largo and 38 super can interchange but for the same reason Mr. Harrel advised against firing 38 super in 38 special you should not. I have a bolt action rifle in 9mm Largo. Other people who also have these told me they shoot 38 super in theirs. I do not because the 38 super has higher pressure. But if you reload and 38 super will work in your 9mm Largo you can reload the super brass to Largo specs. Most Largo brass is non-reloadable surplus or aluminum case so 38 super brass is easier to come by. You may also be able to use 38 acp brass. Maybe I should have explained it better for simple minds.

[@jimvac77]

@@jeremy74pow Thanks for a completely unnecessary explanation and enjoy your Destroyer carbine. P.S. - 38 ACP brass is exactly the same as 38 Super brass.

[@lindycorgey2743]

@@jeremy74pow Understood what you stated. I bought some .38acp brass years ago to use in a Astra A400. Never got around to loading it to 38acp specs.

[@my2cents945]

I recently inherited a S&W model 547. 9mm no moon clips. the design is a whole different animal. S&W put a lot of engineering into that one.

[@TWX1138]

If you read up on the history of various cartridges, there's discussion of what dimensional characteristics were important, and what were less important. Additionally some characteristics might not have been important when a particular cartridge was designed, but later have been headspaced against and are now important. Revolvers are an old idea, even predating the cartridge round. When the revolver cylinder was designed it was for cap-and-ball ammunition, with straight bore cylinders that were machined through entirely manual processes. When cartridges were invented, many cap-and-ball designs were adapted to cartridges, with the casing length being one of the easier means to control how powerful the round was. Tapers in semiautomatic pistols appear to serve the purpose of allowing further tailoring of ammunition to pistol. Tolerances are tigher and theoretically performance should be improved. The wrong ammunition simply doesn't fit into the chamber, or if it fits it doesn't align properly to let the firing pin sufficiently contact the primer reliably.

[@centurian318]

Headspaces off of the case mouth and not the rim.

[@blackhawk7r221]

@@centurian318 I’m glad somebody finally said it.

[@DDGVET4]

Thanks Paul! We need to teach the young ones about those "yeah you can but it's not really a good idea" moments in life. lol

[@JamesThomas-gg6il]

Well they say stupid should be painful...but it depends on the kid I'd say. A nice whelp is a good reminder as a bruise, but really don't want to have something reattached .

[@US2A]

So don't use the forward assist 🤣🤣

[@1247.cccccc]

And don't join a gang that requires shoulder pads and special haircuts.

[@rogerlibby14613]

Today is the first time KZbin had you in my rotation in over 6 months. Good to see you again. Also, I heard light trigger strikes several times during your demonstration.