Reloading: Autoloader vs Revolver ("What if" Brigade Special)

Paul tests which is faster to reload with loose ammo. An autoloader, or a revolver.
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[@PaulHarrell]

In reviewing this presentation I could see how someone could erroneously infer that it's an angry rant. It isn't we had fun filming this vid. Also there have been a few comments about the pistol under my armpit. That won't look good to flag half of humanity and the gun In the armpit doesn't work well if you have to take cover quickly. Some people have suggested that an auto can be partially reloaded by single loading a round into the chamber. Remember, the object of the partial reload was that you were intending to completely reload and then you were interrupted.

[@ericzimmerman7524]

I think most of us understand, or should understand, that this comparison is a bit obscure. Any of the downfalls on both types of guns can be mitigated by either training or preparation. But to another point you have made several times in other videos, the overwhelming majority of scenarios are over well within in the fully loaded capacity of either a revolver or an automatic weapon. In the very few instances where reloading would be necessary, most of us would be screwed anyway. The minority that have had the training to keep their head while being shot at and could reload effectively, would also be the one that would probably carry extra magazines or speed loaders. As for the security guards you mentioned that have restrictions, I would assume they would have speed loaders at hand in addition to their loose ammo, just not on their belt. Either way, once shots are fired the situation has escalated to a point where other factors such as alarms and police calls would be initiated, the offenders would more than likely be looking for an escape, not a shootout.

[@andnorr7738]

I can't believe you didn't want to elaborate at the end :) Thank you for the video !!!

[@kenclark4603]

I don't think you enjoy doing these videos quite as much as we do watching. A lot of us drop what we are doing just to watch! Carry on brother, carry on.

[@jackofalltradesprepping9611]

Damn it Paul you squashed my half-minded rebuttal in your comments with your own comment

[@jackofalltradesprepping9611]

You truly are a legend

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

I knew someone who shall remain nameless that carried a 1911 with 3 mags, it took him several years to discover that only 1 of them fed properly.

I myself had an S&W 626 revolver stored for too long without using it, the spring relaxed, when I finally shot it, the firing pin wouldn't strike the round. I learned to shoot anything I own on a regular basis, thankfully when I was at a range, not in some self defense situation.

[@JamesgnuoY1]

That is why i mark my carry magazines and when i go to the range I cycle rounds through all of the magazines I own.

[@wahawaha541]

just hearing this anecdote makes me check all my stuff!

[@saienide9301]

and this folks is why we go to the range and test stuff

[@WayStedYou]

Was he using mags from TWO WORLD WARS ago?

[@LoneRanger869]

Paul Harrell: "And I could bore you for a half an hour with anecdotes..." Me: No... no you couldn't. I would happily watch/listen to your videos if they were each an hour long of your anecdotes and stories.

[@feanorx9999]

Ditto.

[@josephpostma1787]

SAme

[@Gideon_Judges6]

Sir, I accept that challenge!

[@madengineer9072]

I'm ok with that

[@JW...-oj5iw]

Gun stores?

[@colewyatt5298]

Paul: "Who doesn't have a spare mag for their auto loader, who owns a revolver and doesn't buy a speed loader?" Me: *looks down in shame.. twice*

[@cameronkrause4712]

lol

[@kevincanales6654]

Lmao

[@joedirt7716]

Shame....... Shame......... Shame .....

[@jakublulek3261]

Well, they don't make (good) speed loader for .455 Webley, so I am off the hook, right?

[@mkshffr4936]

​@@jakublulek3261I hear that a speed loader for 45LC N Frames works well for a Schofield . 😇

[@AK-rq1cz]

I can't get enough of this guy's knowledge and his ability to explain it.

[@rucker69]

"And now, the threat manifests itself!" Would be a good tshirt motto

[@paulatkinson4439]

Oh MY ! A guy MIGHT be asked to remove a garment that had that on it. It COULD be very helpful in traffic.

[@Arman-jx7hu]

That would be an awesome t-shirt

[@phantomspaceman]

"You roll a 5 for a perception check and a grue eats you"

[@gunnigundel1828]

If you Ship it to Germany, i would buy one of Every kind

[@bufordparmer5710]

Absolutely and of course the MEAT TARGET!

[@Turtlejohn8]

Moral of the story: get a second mag/speedloader

[@arikwolf3777]

Or more. I bought four extra magazines and gun came with two. This way I can go to the range with six loaded mags and shoot without having to reload.

[@adamkaneshiro]

Or be like me and buy 30 round mags for my beretta m9 and 33 round mags for my glock 17/19. Pretty much infinite ammo cheat code for real life. I hate reloading, just saying.

[@misterbaker9728]

Adam Kaneshiro ok what do you do if you drop it or it jams? Do you have another magazine?

[@adamkaneshiro]

@@misterbaker9728 i usually carry 3 15 round magazines and 1 33 round magazine when carrying my g19c. 1 mag in chamber, 1 in left mag pocket, 1 in right mag pocket, 33 round in my inner jacket pocket. With the baretta its the same but with a different holster that has a magazine pocket. Most guns i own i have purchased with 2 to 3 mags from the manufacturer luckily and then got the others usually 2 to 3 after i save up for it or see a good deal at my LGS.

[@adamkaneshiro]

Also a side note: in the 20 plus years of shooting ive never personally had any of my magazines jam and only seen 3 m16 magazines jam in 60 marine corps rifle and pistol ranges training thousands of Marines. Not sure if thats just pure luck or a testament to Marines taking good care of their gear knowing we cant afford replacements.

[@reshpeck]

Yeah, but what if I don't want to hear anything that contradicts what I already believe?

[@misterbaker9728]

Reshpeck thank you for saying that.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Then you probably need to get out of your echo chamber. That's what I'd say.

[@bordenfleetwood5773]

Now that's quite the quandary, isn't it? Whoever finds the solution will likely be very wealthy, very quickly.

[@casualobserver3145]

So glad many of us here reside in Realville.

[@exploringwithlarry4140]

YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN PAUL DROP DOWN AND GIVE ME 20

[@GregGBM7]

You may have to use a single 30 round glock mag, shoot the gun one handed at a 45 degree angle and tactically hold up your sagging pants with your off hand. In that situation It's hard to reload an autoloader without dropping trou.

[@Bagginsess]

But what if you also have a blunt and lean?

[@SLG-jt1rd]

from my experience and in my training i noticed that the 45 degree angle should be increased to a 70 degree angle (completely sideways) it not only increases accuracy it also increases reliability

[@SLG-jt1rd]

@@___meph___4547 thank you for the correction i didn’t pay attention in that class

[@jaredwright1655]

@@SLG-jt1rd its more of a math problem, but going from 12 'o clock to 9 'o clock, or any quarter turn, is 90 degrees.

[@orthocatsr.8723]

LMFAO

[@certaindeaf8315]

To this day, instead of money, the tooth fairy puts loaded magazines under Paul's pillow.

[@thunnusscombridae7105]

It's all the jacket. Paul doesn't even know what the episode is going to be about till he shows up at the range and feels around for what's in his pockets this week.

[@killian9314]

Does he even loose teeth? Dental a dental assistent after all, with a fixation for perfection. And abrasive of sweets.

[@SW-ii5gg]

@@killian9314 Maybe he brings them home from work to trade the tooth fairy for ammo.

[@killian9314]

@@___meph___4547 where did you see his cakes?

[@donnaslevin2969]

TF knows better !

[@o2wow]

6:26 "Bill's Crime" outstanding.

[@SilverSquirrel]

Some guy out there with a Makarov just unsubbed.

[@hard2getitrightagain314]

@rusty nuts I know that guy! He used to sit near me at work and explain how IWB carry would pit the finish on my wonder 9. Apparently his buttsweat had pitted his Commie 9 and he was convinced all pistols were equal.

[@missingnola3823]

@randomdoodification I've known a few pro-gun Democrats myself over the years. None were the socialist type and I found them to be more intellectually honest and consistent than other Democrats... and many Republicans. The honesty and consistency bit seems to be rarer and rarer these days among champions of either party. Oh, and I have a Makarov and bought two extra mags for a total of three the day I purchased it. :) I wish I had two more. It may be a Commie 9, but it is fun to shoot (few guns aren't, IMO) and quite accurate.

[@missingnola3823]

@randomdoodification Yep! And at least it is honest, too. It's blocky with a less-resistant finish and crappy European-style mag release, heavy for it's size, and not particularly powerful. But when you ask it to digest some cheap, steel-cased ammo and put those rounds in a nice, tight group, it will do so with the motivation of someone held in a basement by the NKVD.

[@drunkswithguns4124]

first thing i did when i got my Mak was order 7 extra mags. They were 35 bucks a piece but i still got em

[@DeadlyBreath9790]

@brandon Herrera lmao

[@GryphonIndustrial]

Shhh, we're hunting yeahbuts!

[@parisramos8504]

Waskaly yabhuts

[@edmcclure8766]

Hurricane lmao 😂😂😂

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Cute

[@foxsquirrel3038]

I see what you did there... nice one

[@jackkomorowski2722]

HAHAHA!

[@colonialrebel9964]

*fires 19 rounds, says, "Do I even need to elaborate on that?" Someone in the comment section feels challenged: "....hmmm...what about_______?"

[@gregoryadkins2213]

Colonial Rebel if you watch one of shotgun videos,he comments on the capacity /slow rate of fire,in home defense,but he also says you can make the argument that even 30-rounds(AR-15)might not be enough.

[@SilencerXLR8]

It was 18

[@thomasraahauge5231]

Well, depending on your aiming skills, level of threats, air humidity, shoe size, dexterity, the lunar cycle, elevation above sea level, side wind factors, whether or not you had beans for breakfast . . .

[@quickchicken506]

Yeah,,,caleb will challenge it.

[@billybobjoe6496]

I counted 18

[@sweet65mustang]

I broke the rear sight on my 454 and it took at least 5 years to locate, purchase and install a new one. It cost less than $3. Laziness happens.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

I meant to get a spare magazine for my carry gun 5.5 years ago. but that gun is a Pheonix Arms .25, mags are hard to find. And i got a different gun after that, so I stop carrying it thankfully. The point is, i still only have 1 mag and 30-some rounds for it. Some things just dont take priority.

[@latergator3367]

Your sense of humor is from the dry side of the mountains ! Keep’em coming ! Thanks !

[@HerbalistMax]

From the tone of Paul's voice I found myself continualy looking for an appearance of the middle finger...

[@LYLEWOLD]

right? "one (first finger), two (middle finger)"

[@michaelblacktree]

Same here.

[@TheShalomstead]

The main lesson I can see here for the “what-if-brigade” is: ”Don’t Be Lazy!” Invest in your gear, train with it, take care of it; and it will take care of you! Everyone’s situation is unique and no advice can cover all the bases.

[@jddrafts]

Star Trek Theory it’s almost like not going stupid place with stupid people and doing stupid things will keep you out of trouble.

[@GIitchclan12]

@@jddrafts Until stupid people come into your life.

[@KumaKommando]

Shane Smith I know this is two months old but something inside of me screamed. “Until you LET stupid people into your life.” Don’t let a stupid person’s bullshit become your bullshit. Any stupid “things” that may be done will probably become apparent when you learn where and vice versa. Speaking from experience. Trust your gut, it will probably never steer you wrong, especially if you feel something is off or get that hair raising feeling. That’s your gut saying (forgive me Star Trek Theory for this reference) “GET OOOUT! GET OUT OF THEEERE!”

[@stefanmolnapor910]

@@jddrafts will someone please tell all the "thugs" out there this simple knowledge? Lol

[@alancranford3398]

I've been in a position where my agency issued only one magazine--or a revolver without speed loaders. This was during my military career from 1974 to 2010. Until the 1990's this also meant issuing only five pistol cartridges--from the 1990's on the Force Protection ammunition was either ten rounds or one full magazine depending upon being in a war zone. Sometimes it was possible to obtain more ammunition but no additional magazines. Being issued agency weapons (police, military, armed security guards) may mean being restricted to one magazine.

[@bhoward9378]

Great info; I didn't know this. I can't imagine a good reason for such policies.

[@alancranford3398]

@@bhoward9378 I don't know how good the reasons are, but off-hand I can think of two. First, the "armed" representative of a government office or corporation is regarded as untrustworthy. Second, the officially-armed person is vulnerable to being overpowered and their issue arms and ammunition will wind up in the hands of anti-government forces. One smacks of poor personnel management policy and the second demonstrates a systemic failure to recognize and appropriately respond to the actual operating environment.

[@bhoward9378]

@@alancranford3398 Again, more good info. Thanks for the insight.

[@alancranford3398]

@@bhoward9378 You're welcome. My insight comes from studying guerrilla warfare--first as a child because guerrillas were all the rage in the Sixties, and then professionally. My viewpoint may be warped--or not.

[@bdr32965]

I anxiously await the day when Paul puts out a really long video of boring anecdotes. I would sit here and enjoy every boring minute of it and still be entertained. Paul's videos are pretty much the only videos on KZbin that I won't fast forward because I'm afraid I might miss some fascinating or interesting tidbit of information that I might need to know.

[@Mister_Belvidere]

Time to drop whatever I was doing and watch another Paulo Harrell video.

[@johngraesser4911]

For the first 30 years I owned my first pistol I only had one magazine. After I bought another that used the same magazines that came with 2, I also bought 2 spares, so now for the two I have 5 magazines. It does happen. My father has a top break .22 that belonged to his grandfather. No speedloaders for it in over 100 years of ownership. Again it happens.

[@neurotoksyn]

Sure it happens, but do you carry one mag and a bunch of loose rounds, or do you carry 1 mag and whatever happens after that, happens. Or alternatively, do you carry an entirely different gun that has 2 or more magazines. Genuine question, I would never carry a gun that only has one mag, if you're someone who did/does, how would you go about it?

[@JeffreyAnthony]

@@neurotoksyn This does beg the classic New York Reload.

[@Predalien195]

@@neurotoksyn I had at one point bought a Makarov pistol. Came with 2 mags but after a few outings with the gun one of the magazines completely broke, turns out it was damaged and I never noticed and recoil caused a crack in the magazine body that caused malfunctions. I'd tested the pistol thoroughly enough to deem it reliable so while waiting for a spare mag to arrive I carried it for a while on just one magazine. Truthfully, I never felt bad about it. I've been involved in a few defensive shootings and my experience in those scenarios leans more towards what the statistical average on the matter shows. Most gun fights are over in 3-4 rounds and an 8 round magazine with one in the chamber is plenty to carry you through that. The one situation I had where it wasnt resolved in 3-4 or less was resolved in 8 but that WAS with a 15 round magazine. Realistically, it's kind of once you're out you just hope that the 8-9 rounds you have are enough to end the situation. Be it you run, they run, they die, you die, etc... I wouldnt go into a situation where you'd be likely to need more than that and not have enough. But one never knows how many rounds they'll need until they know that they need it. In most situations, simply having a gun is already giving you an advantage. So for people who dont carry spares... I dont blame them. If you dont own any spares, I still wont blame you but I'd suggest if nothing else getting spares for range use but also that rare chance your magazine goes bad.

[@Gallagherfreak100]

Is your father's top break .22, a "H&R .22 special" by any chance?

[@neurotoksyn]

@@Predalien195 thank you for the reply, I'm the have it and not need it over need it and not have it type. So if for example some drug addict (which unfortunately are present in pockets in my community) refuses to go down or leave after the first mag (I carry a g43 with a +1 extension so 7+1), having the spare is added peace of mind. I've even considered swapping over to the sig 365 because round count is one of my primary concerns and 23 rounds (10+1 and a 12 or even 15 round backup) is a very compelling argument. I understand not everyone has the same mindset or opportunity for capacity so getting a little insight into a different circumstance is greatly appreciated.

[@Arbiter099]

"What if" brigadier reporting sir, requesting you suffer through an obsolete and obtuse gateloader for our amusement

[@PaulHarrell]

We have a presentation on single action revolvers for concealed carry.

[@Predalien195]

@@Just_Pele I've seen some guys who carry spare cylinders on a piece of coat hanger wire and they just remove the whole cylinder for a reload. Most of them practice in Cowboy Action Shooting sports and the likes but if you were to ever rely on a single action revolver for self defense that wasnt something like a Schofield pattern gun where you COULD get speed loaders for, I dont see it as being a bad idea to practice that method and get good at it.

[@markshippoli8918]

Many people don't consider the revolver to be obsolete. They're thought of as "timeless" .....it's been a relevant platform for 175 years! This test showed how they can hold their own!

[@ufc990]

@@markshippoli8918 He's not talking about all revolvers, he's specifically talking about single action gate loaded revolvers. Just about any way you cut it, they're pretty obsolete haha. They can still be used effectively of course.

[@MM-gm2yk]

I carry a Colt engraved nickel 45 SAA as my "BBQ" gun but that's 1 or 2 times a year

[@balazsneuperger2063]

The only thing we can be thankful for these "what if" brigades that they give ideas to great content from time to time

[@richarddavis1884]

Most scenarios are resolved without reloading. It is hard not to look down range while reloading. Thanks Paul!

[@merpius]

Bills crime. LOL, no that didn't involve any magazine ban, just lies about a dress. :D

[@BTCAsia]

Perjury is only a crime for those of us living outside of DC or without 7 figure net worths.

[@KingWolf39]

@divinekamikazee he had it right the first time 😎👉🏼👉🏼

[@8literbeater]

Anything that infringes is a crime.

[@DNSKILL0]

divinekamikazee it was clear he was making a joke.

[@nermalsturf]

I always love watching Paul..."what ifs" "yeah-buts" and all!!!

[@chironchangnoi]

"This video was fun to film" It was also fun to watch. Thanks again for bringing quality, information-dense knowledge to us.

[@slightenigma]

It is amazing how large Paul’s pockets are. The transition from the auto loader to the revolver was seamless.

[@peternystrom921]

09:28 you are saying "i can bore you for an half an hour. Dear sir, you can NEVER bore us, ever minut with you is pure gold. Best youtube channel and personality out there. Thank you Paul. :)

[@0megamanX]

Paul vs The KZbin 101st Airborn What If Brigade.

[@CyanLink]

I think it's the 1337 Battalion of the 69420 Brigade.

[@Jmwadsw01]

Chairborn keyboard rangers.😁

[@exothermal.sprocket]

The 101st Airborn What-if Brigade that never got off the ground.

[@theimmortal4718]

I thought it was the 1ST Autism What If Brigade

[@bigredone1030]

@@theimmortal4718 you take that back

[@topglock]

“Bill’s crime.... excuse me crime bill”.... hahahahaha

[@errolwilcox747]

I was looking for this comment 😂

[@cjr4286]

I've never seen Mr. Harrell so annoyed by the "what if" brigade lol

[@TuttleScott]

got a video out of it though!

[@phantomspaceman]

"But what if I carry a firearm but I always keep it unloaded and in my pants pocket but my spare loose rounds are in my jacket in a ziplock bag?"

[@cjr4286]

@ricky gore Even if Paul Harrell is "merely displeased," you'd better run!

[@Tabasco_Cultist]

I just found this channel a few weeks ago, and have watched almost every video you have posted. This is a must watch channel for anyone who likes to prove things using the scientific method when it comes to firearms. Please keep up the good work!

[@scooterdogg7580]

no matter what you're stuck with this gentleman will tell you how to make do with what you have , especially at this time , no belittling tone if you don't have the ability for the ideal item , all videos worth watching

[@Pain-gj1tr]

I always enjoy Paul's Productions, sure would be fun to see a show with Outtakes taken through the years.

[@MrLiveEra]

Seriously, Just once I would like him to 'bore' us for a few hours.

[@fortusvictus8297]

Not sure KZbin's policy would permit porn.

[@diamondflaw]

I mean, there was the .22 reliability test.

[@rowanfraser922]

I'm sure his collective library could bore many unenlightened for hours lol.

[@SilencerXLR8]

This

[@srddnrsmn7320]

You'll have to make another one soon dealing with the "Yeah, But" Battalion. . .

[@Bmetamaximus]

As always your knowledge, rationale, and snark are not just highly educational but also extremely entertaining, thanks!

[@MPGunther1]

"Do I even need to elaborate on that?” No Sir, It's crystal clear ​

[@JayG1911]

I firmly believe that the best handgun on the planet is the one you choose for you because it works for you AND it’s the one you carry all the time. For me that’s my Smith and Wesson Model 637 Airweight chambered in .38 special.

[@ChiriKain]

what if you choose the zip gun?

[@neurotoksyn]

@@ChiriKain to be fair he said "works." The zip gun does a whole lot of not working.

[@ConSocialist]

But is it a Glock, because we all know Glocks are the only guns that work.

[@bigdiccmarty9335]

@@ConSocialist Glock? More like schock. Where's my 2 World Wars Gang?

[@albertforletta1498]

Justin h , I’m an ordinary civilian. I will never drive a police car to a bank being robbed by 5 criminals. I will never jump on a tank and be driven to the front lines of a battle. My 5 shot revolver, with no reloads, is plenty of gun for me. I never, never, leave my house without my 38spl revolver.

[@Babakifo]

LOL! Paul Harrell: thoroughness, even in the face of great exasperation

[@audikid89]

“Do I even need to elaborate on that?”😂

[@thetir0]

We just never tire of hearing you hold forth on this subject.

[@mikeeubanks3264]

Thank you mr. Harrell ,another informative video. I've recently been debating weather or not to add a relvover into my pistol lineup. Now I'm going to do it.

[@Momentaryoratory]

Hey Paul, I saw on mythbusters when they were shooting a gun in water, that the FASTER bullet was moving, the less it penetrated. It seemed that handguns actually travelled further than the rifles. It would be awesome to see you test that and see what you find, thanks for the vids!!

[@mark500mo]

@@douganderson7002 please explain. Preferably with the math. If not ,then explain with principles. It is not apparent to me. If someone asks a question you should respectfully stfu if you don't really know.

[@gabrielfraser2109]

@@mark500mo Higher velocity = exponentially higher coefficient of drag. You experience less overall drag when moving slower, even when you account for the increased time period of exposure to drag. This is why there's been a trend over the last few decades for container ships to move slower - for relatively small drops in speed, they can save enormous amounts of fuel, because they just get a lot less drag from water. This is also why pistol barrels can remain functional for 50 000 - 100 000 rounds, while heavy rifle barrels, for most calibres, don't function properly past 5000. The rifle barrels experience much higher drag coefficients that wears the rifling away much faster. Finally, next time you're at pool, run your hand slowly through the water. It's pretty damn easy. Then move your hand through as fast as you can. The increase in resistance is much higher than the increase in speed, even if you don't really have a way of measuring it. This principal is also at the core of the differences between fast, light projectiles, and heavy, slow projectiles. The reason that heavy projectiles are better at conserving their energy over distance is simply that they experience less drag than projectiles of the same energy, lower weight, and higher speed. If you're trying to shoot far through water, the best option might be a 158 grain bullet from a .38 special load. I'm not aware of any other handgun loads that have a higher weight/speed ratio.

[@EthanDyTioco]

@@gabrielfraser2109 my man, thanks for taking the time to provide the math principles *and* multiple examples

[@CDAWG199313]

Proof people with argue about literally anything.

[@jolier1313]

The problem with the reasoning behind ammo capacity is that it stems too closely from military strategy and tactics that are often out of place in personal defense situations. The line of reasoning is that more ammo capacity means an increase in superiority of fire, which can lead one to have both offensive and defensive advantages over enemy forces. Superiority of fire allows one to 1) engage multiple targets, 2) destroy more enemy forces or equipment, 3) suppress/disrupt enemy force movements, or 4) strengthen friendly force movements (i.e. advance, flanking, retreat, etc.). These advantages are clearly necessary to win battles and wars, but the problem is that superiority of fire is rarely necessary in personal self-defense situations, and I say this leaving statistics aside and simply thinking through this point strategically and tactically. In a self-defense situation, an individual who is attacked and trying to defend himself will likely be at two disadvantages: first, he will likely be surprised and have to react to the threat without complete awareness/information (whereas the assailant will likely have this advantage), and he will likely not have back up support from other team members or units (whereas the assailant may have this support). If an individual faces an attack from only one other individual, perhaps superiority of fire can be an advantage and deciding factor of the gun fight. However, so can marksmanship, accuracy, and the firepower of the cartridge. In other words, increased ammo capacity or superior rate of fire in a personal defense situation may not necessarily lead to victory. While "superiority of fire" and "firepower" are often used interchangeably, I use "superiority of fire" to mean the ability to maintain a sustained volume of fire at either high or low rates, whereas I take "firepower" to mean the destructiveness of a weapon system. The real question is, when can anyone ever truly know that they have the superiority of fire in a self-defense situation? What if the assailant is wearing body armor, has several extended magazines, multiple firearms, or even NVGs? Even if someone is likely to carry two spare mags for self-defense, is engaging and staying in the firefight to see who has the most ammo capacity ever a risk worth taking? No, the best strategy is to engage only enough to either eliminate the enemy, provide suppressive fire for a retreat or to flee, or worst case, take a defensive position, call 911, and wait for 911 to arrive. Moreover, every shooter has to legally account for every round that is fired in a criminal or civil case. The more rounds that are fired, the more difficulty one faces accounting for them. And, even if one is justified in the shooting, if one round hurts an innocent bystander, one's case will likely be lost. If one is outgunned in firepower and not sure he or she has the skill or firepower to eliminate the enemy, then the best strategy is to retreat/flee. If one is attacked by multiple assailants, then increased ammo capacity/superiority of fire is not going to give one enough of an advantage to overcome the surprise of the attack, the lack of backup support, and being outnumbered, so the best strategy would be to retreat/flee. With that being said, I think ammo capacity is overrated for personal, self-defense situations. Most debates of personal defense firearms and calibers almost always take place with the assumption that the sole adversary one is likely to face is against human enemies, too. However, there are two types of personal defense: defense against humans and defense against big/dangerous game (hogs, deer, elk, buffalo, moose, coyotes, black bears, grizzly bears, mountain lions, or even aggressive dogs). In the case of big/dangerous game, firepower is almost always an advantage over ammo capacity, too. First, rarely is one ever going to have to face multiple big/dangerous game adversaries, so ammo capacity is not really an advantage in this situation. Second, the likelihood of getting multiple shots on any big/dangerous game animals will also be unlikely, and hunters can draw on experience on this point. Third, the idea that the foot-pounds of energy, or momentum, or velocity are the most important metrics of cartridge effectiveness is a fallacy: the truth is that the most important factor of ballistics performance is not how much energy is generated from a cartridge, but how much energy is transferred to the target. Lastly, the idea that the kinetic energy (foot-pounds) of cartridges in a magazine is additive is also a fallacy. Some people like to take the kinetic energy of each cartridge and multiply by the number of cartridges to say that the magazine has a total kinetic energy of the sum of all of the cartridges. For instance, 15 cartridges of 147 grain 9mm at 1055 ft/s has more total kinetic energy of 5448 ft/lbs than 6 cartridges of 240 grain .44 Mag at 1300 ft/s with a total kinetic energy of 5402 ft/lbs. The problem with this idea of additive energy is several fold. It assumes that several rounds were fired and hit the target. Otherwise, in the event where only one round has been fired or hit the target, then one round of .44 Mag at 900 ft/lbs is by far more effective than one 9mm at 363 ft/lbs. Moreover, the ballistic metrics fail to consider the reality of anatomy. Hundreds of deep needle pricks to a person are likely to be more deadly than one mallet blow. The problem is that the one mallet blow is likely to stop someone immediately because all of the energy is dumped at once. This point can be demonstrated with the effectiveness of birdshot vs buckshot vs slugs. As far as revolvers vs semi-autos, yes, semi-autos are lighter than revolvers, but the need to carry a full spare mag almost negates the weight advantage. And as outlined above, the advantage of the faster semi-auto reload compared to a revolver is tactically hardly necessary except to clear a malfunction.

[@jhstylewon1172]

I read all this.

[@em-rx1wy]

You’ve thought more about it than most people, which is why so many fantasize that they’ll be getting into some crazy gun battle over their wallet and cell phone. Everyone apparently needs 33 rounds of 9mm lol.

[@michaelwarenycia7588]

Good points.

[@yankeecornbread8464]

Is this the short version? (Good knowledge and comments, though.)

[@TheDude4077]

I think this comparison is very useful for SHTF scenarios. In a completely unpredictable scenario like that where you're likely dealing with scarcity, it's very likely you won't have extra mags or auto-loaders. Obviously a true SHTF scenario is an extremely unlikely situation, but so is a civilian being in a normal self-defense fight where they would fire more than 2-3 rounds so we're already in the realm of unlikely scenarios with this discussion of putting rounds down range.

[@the_langss]

Thanks for the Video.....I appreciate you taking the time to go over this again....I personally know several people who only have a revolver for home defense, and no speed loader. So you were spot on.

[@ForOrAgainstUs]

Paul Harrell dropping 18 mics at the end of the video. Fantastic video overall. I'm very glad I clicked today and loved the thoughtful demonstrations.

[@michaeldavis4651]

"What If Brigade Special"... Ooh, boy! He's about to get snarky! *Rubs hands and cackles with unholy glee*

[@thomasraahauge5231]

Time to break out the emergency ration of popcorn 🥳🥳🥳

[@mydemon]

Where did you learn to talk like that? Its a great vocabulary :)

[@michaeldavis4651]

@@mydemon I read... a lot.

[@flipgunderson1946]

Speaking of mags, this is one reason I love Glock. New Gen4's + 5's come with 3 mags in the box and additional mags can easily be found & often sub $30.

[@2dAnglicoSix]

Paul, you and your production videos are professional in ALL regards and speak well of you as a man, former Marine, and soldier. Semper Fi, Joseph R. USMC 0302 1973-1994.

[@2dAnglicoSix]

TOM ARCHER, ... Tom, having seniority in both length of service and grade, I need not confer with ‘the Gunny’ whom I certainly do respect. You sir, are incorrect. There is no such thing as an EX-Marine. When the Corps discharges you, and your obligated service is completed in the inactive Reserve force, one legally becomes a Former Marine but NOT an Ex-Marine. I do, however, agree with your general sentiment. Take care.

[@2dAnglicoSix]

TOM ARCHER , best wishes and ‘Semper Fi!’ jr

[@3onthebeach]

The biggest takeway watching your demo is that you obviously don't have to "stow" the revolver when reloading. Putting the auto into and taking it out of your pocket, placing on a table, whatever, is the greatest difference. Add to that, it's simply easier to drop rounds into cylinder than "fit" them into a mag. Seconds add up. Great video as always Paul!

[@terminalreset18]

This was both fascinating and entertaining. I didn't even go to 2x speed! Excellent job! And, thank you for the thought-provoking exercise.

[@rustyknifelover4463]

When I purchase a firearm I consider additional magazines as part of the cost.

[@shadowwolf7622]

I do the same.

[@jamespruitt6718]

I have one on layaway, and have been looking at buying the extra magazines now before I even have the gun.

[@etherealceleste]

IKR, even for my very first gun purchase I ordered a total of 5 magazines for it. But then again... we are fans Paul Harrell and logic.

[@aridian7787]

Right. He used the example of inherited, out of production guns where the mags could be hard to find and/or astronomically priced. I’ve experienced that myself.

[@vincentdavis8960]

Same with the holster and any maintenance supplies.

[@ESPLTD322]

Paul is so generous to take time from his very busy schedule to educate us mere mortal buffoons lmao I always feel like an idiot watching this man’s great work. Keep it up Paul we enjoy it!

[@comanchedase]

Man...grow some balls

[@danrogers32]

"Bill's crime!" PERFECT! HAHAHA

[@GrazianoBF]

The coolest thing is the classic videotape-like vibe in Paul's videos, even the image looks old school, that's pure gold!

[@24Mossberg]

Very best instructor/teacher I have ever seen.

[@JoeWalker98]

I love these specials 😂 just how wild imagination questions can be pulled apart by study logic with physical proof 😁

[@davidburroughs7068]

I'd like to see this contest again, no mags, but this time between a Dirty Harry .45 magnum and a 1876 gatling gun.

[@delholford987]

David Burroughs Harry had a Smith and Wesson Model 29 in .44 magnum. It came to market in 1950. The M1865 Gatling was .50 caliber usually but used various calibers depending on the buyer.

[@69mailman69]

Uuuui, 45 mag?? My wife used that in our divorce. You sleeping with her????

[@waynehendrix4806]

@Hater Oftheleft "Loading 45-70 into the Gatlin gun was considered a slow process, due to the length of the cartridge, and the amount of ammo needed on the belt. The .44 magnum was told to be able to "blow a mans head clean off". This leaves the potential of no available head to continue to load the Gatlin gun belt"....

[@InsurmountableNitwit]

Uhhh, I believe the Gatling originally used a proprietary cartridge, not .45-70.

[@stephanl1983]

@Hater Oftheleft Custer didn't took his Gatling guns with him, because they slow down his unit. The area the 7th Cavalry crossed was rough terrain, no roads, many hills and canyons. Not the terrain you want to cross with a horse drawn carriage and a Gatling gun behind it😉.

[@mitchblackmore5230]

If I keep watching your videos, I'm going to end up with 6-pack abs laughing at your perfect dead pan humour.

[@RemoteViewr1]

A man of immense practicality. Common sense applied to his craft. Makes one a student of the gun.

[@waltmagic]

Paul Harrell Thanks for the videos. You're by far the best channel on YT. Wish me luck in basic training and AIT for combat medic.

[@danielwalker8142]

i get the feeling paul is a little pissed at the what if brigade

[@JC-fj7oo]

This is perfect timing. I just started shopping for a revolver.

[@JC-fj7oo]

@Zachary Peterson Cool.

[@richardhoepfner1633]

You miss the ultimate advantage of the autoloader @ - 17:40

[@BandAid350z]

Might I suggest the Kimber K6s series. I absolutely love it.

[@Vnx]

Do you have any models in mind yet?

[@rojack79er]

For me I've got my eyes set on a pair of single action army models. Then I'm going to grab a concealed carry or two and lastly I'd grab a 500 S&W just for the novelty of it. I can just imagine someone asking why I have one. "Oh that's my backup gun."

[@briankeithwood]

Just a quick point about the partial reload. You could drop a single round in the auto, drop the slide and store it while you reload the mag... So if the threat manifests before you complete you have at least 1 shot.

[@kleinbottled79]

Paul has an even better (for him, at least) solution. He literally counts the rounds as he fires them off and reloads with one still in the chamber. This gives him that single round capability without having to drop a round in as an extra step. Surprised he didn't mention it, now that you bring it up.

[@GBall_Vision]

​@@kleinbottled79his ability to do that with all pistols rifles shotguns that he shoots is incredible. That's one of the first things I learned from him a few years ago. Definitely a good thing to practice, hard to do

[@edbecka233]

this is a stage in a few autoloader training scenarios/matches.

[@mattbrown5511]

It amazes me to no end that people would continue to beat this dead horse. Your presentation, as always, was superlative. Thank you.

[@markadams7597]

Thanks...again! "They are the same, but a little different...," I love it!!

[@juwannaman4]

stuck at home with the Flu and cant sleep. Perfect time for a Paul upload!

[@darthkek1953]

Fingers crossed it's not corona.

[@ironbomb6753]

@@darthkek1953 🤣 my thoughts too, (laugh is for the comment, not the flu or possible pandemic) get well fast Icchan G. Boom 👍

[@CraigS_427]

Hope you guys feel better soon.

[@kyles280]

Hope you feel better soon! There’s a lot of nasty stuff going around

[@DergEnterprises]

LOL, "Do I even need to elaborate on that!" I love it!

[@truckmetal2341]

Who else is binge watching these videos after Paul passed away?

[@minerblue9641]

You hit the nail right on the head with this video Paul. Believe it or not, I've done a funny thing in the past. I've carried a revolver and a semiauto to back up the revolver.

[@baird329]

The "hard to get magazine" and the "they don't made a speed loader for that revolver" argument is very valid. I've had a couple of those over the years and would hate it if that was the only option I had. I thank my lucky stars that I don't live in one of those "it's legal to own, but not legal to buy" locations.

[@SansBinky]

Wow I was just wondering if Paul had an upload soon!! Insta like. Again.

[@jakelogan7542]

4th reason not to carry speed loaders is printing. In the summer when I carry a snubnose revolver, I carry speed strips instead of speed loaders, because I don't want the speed loaders to print and give away that I'm carrying.

[@ExVeritateLibertas]

Remember most people do not even know what a speed loader is. As long as it doesn't print clearly in the shape of a gun, people will assume it is your phone, wallet, etc. (If they notice at all.) When I carried a revolver I carried speed strips just because they were far less bulky. Also it is highly unlikely most people will need to (or if you need to, get to) reload the revolver in any realistic self-defense scenario anyway.

[@SilencerXLR8]

I understand the caution but I can tell u as someone who has pockets filled with stuff all the time I doubt anyone has ever assumed I had a spped loader in there

[@alphazuluz]

Yeah that should not be a concern of yours. If you saw all the crap I carry in my pockets you would shit. Like seven people on earth could see a speed loader in your pocket and know what it was. I think an auto magazine is more identifiable, and I keep one in my back pocket all the time. Never had anyone know what it was. In fact, in my old job, one of the girls I worked with asked what it was. It became a year long guessing game with the women at work. They kept trying. They never guessed. It drove them crazy that I had something in my pocket every day that I wouldn’t tell them about. They would give up for a month or two then start up again.

[@stefanmolnapor910]

@@ExVeritateLibertas agreed, I have concealed guns many years without most knowing, on the other hand I've also carried a pocket knife that sticks out that got me a phone call to the police because some dumbass thought it was a gun. If concealed 96% will never know, and thoes that do won't care. May be different if you wear skinny jeans or spandex😂😅

[@rayburn8282]

@@stefanmolnapor910 anyone who wears skinny jeans shouldn't be allowed to own a gun

[@davidrdanner4232]

Good video Paul Harrell ! It all depends on the concealed carry person what they can shot better....both are better than a sharp stick...that said I will show myself out.🙄

[@budm9982]

It never fails. I come here to learn and be entertained. Even if the subject matter has little relevance and has been covered in various ways ad-nauseum, you made me chuckle. Thanks for your patience and knowledge and entertaining manner in delivery.

[@1AXMRDR]

Paul is like the old friend that I haven't met yet. He's a man's man. Another good video.

[@bhz8499]

Lol I effin love this channel. Anyone know which episode is the one where he does the super dramatic draw in the plaid suit jacket? I need more of this mans humor in my life

[@shadowwolf7622]

It is an episode on 158 grain 38 special ammo in snubbies I believe. It is funny as Shit! Lmao.

[@kevinmartindale7044]

I politely decline to reveal the video you request. I could not sleep at night if I deprived you of the Knowledge, Wisdom, and experience of watching enough PH to find your prize. May your search be long and fruitful.

[@f308gtb1977]

Kevin Martindale, you are as evil as you are brilliant. “Mwah hah hah...!” 😈

[@Drillbeast1]

The 1970s detective jacket in question was actually acquired when Paul hunted down a 1968 Volkswagen Beetle and skinned it for the upholstery

[@josephschulte1073]

@@kevinmartindale7044 I was going to ask in a separate video about the watermelon shot in the newer intro. Decided against it and just watched enough until I found it.

[@gothamhayes2354]

I would love to see a speed strip thrown into the mix, just for the fun of it. It is more concealable than a speed loader, so it does have some value. Obviously slower than a speed loader, but having additional rounds for a six shooter sounds like a good idea.

[@edbecka233]

The good point about speed strips is that they facilitate a partial reload better than a speedloader can. All through my duty career when I carried a revolver I had speedloaders and at least one strip.

[@Caz91]

I need a meme where Paul says: Laziness is a Factor that occurs.

[@jackkomorowski2722]

That's a T-shirt.

[@SuperSaltydog77]

Paul, the fact that so many people continue to ask for your opinion on this subject should be worn as a badge of honor. They simply value your opinion.

[@waynelee807]

one of the best video's i have seen by Paul. You can see from the outset he is going to have fun with this one.

[@kamerad4212]

"I did not have sex with that magazine."

[@paddydaddyo]

Paul Harrell: “... And I could bore you for a half an hour with anecdotes ...” Me: “Nope.”

[@jmuise2704]

“Bills crime” lol you crack me up.

[@jonintheredZ06]

As someone with background as an RSO and Instructor myself I can absolutely feel for you, Paul. I knew I was going to want to watch the video when you put What-if Brigade in the title. I was not disappointed 😂

[@markc7551]

Well presented. Thanks Paul and crew.

[@JohnW-yv6yp]

“Do I even need to elaborate on that?” Haha, love it

[@masaharumorimoto4761]

Thanks! I needed this to wash the taste of Star Trek Picard outta my mouth. It's so bad... Thanks for bringing me back to sanity.

[@Rnemhrd]

Living in a magazine capacity limit state always have a spare magazine.

[@Ryarios]

I would say if you’re living in a state with a magazine capacity limit, move to a better state...

[@brandonfreeman999]

Stop moving to other states, START FIGHTING for your rights so you don't overcrowd my gun friendly state that doesn't become overpopulated. GET INVOLVED, VOTE!

[@yulusleonard985]

Lol I live in a country which limit handgun ownership to 22/25/32 revolvers, which most of them no longer in production.

[@JustinLaFleur1990]

Or a spare gun

[@bdr32965]

@@JustinLaFleur1990 Officer: How many rounds are in your gun? Me: 20 Officer: This state has a 10 round magazine limit. Me: There's 10 rounds in both of my guns. LOL

[@neilbodwell9172]

Another excellent video from you Mr. Harrell. I love that you always mention the legality aspects. A very real issue.

[@tobydulanski9480]

Always a pleasure to watch your videos Mr Harrell. My wife particularly likes your videos as well. Your clear concise explanations and demonstrations don’t leave her in the dark. Thank You !!!! 👍

[@theimmortal4718]

The "what if" warriors are always relentless

[@darthkek1953]

... but never actual warriors.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

But to them we do owe this video, well at least in part. So there not totally useless.

[@JDMFWALL]

"What if we want to see you review the 327 federal magnum round?" Bruh donate to his patreon so he can buy one.

[@JohnEP223]

"Bill's Crime." Heh heh.

[@matthewhenry3607]

Thanks for the demonstration. I really appreciate your channel. I learn a lot about a subject I enjoy, and I like your insight and humor.

[@HnterGaming]

Paul video is up , drop everything and watch. Great vid as always Paul now back to work .