Payday 2: This Build DESTROYS Death Sentence One Down...

[@S_t_r_e_s_s]

I await Carrot's judgement on this one. Edit: Leech was nerfed, 200 dmg shots take 2 segments instead so DH is actually amazing for it.

[@TheKknowley]

That is true! I've hardly noticed a difference from playing with it after the nerf though.

[@rookie2128]

with quick fix and underdog aced we can easily get back to 1 hit per segment territory

[@ayayagreyeye]

​@@TheKknowley

[@ayayagreyeye]

​@@rookie2128

[@PyrrhaNikos115]

Oh so THAT’S why I was losing segments so fast. I bought that was a bug!

[@sazechs_451]

Me : "Hey, looks fun" Kknowley : "You need the most recent weapon pack" My console : "Nevermind then"

[@weaponisedautism07theSecond]

Its sad to see

[@deskmat9874]

Yup what is all this brainrotting crap there's a point where it's not even payday 2 anymore and this is a good example of it

[@Link_Idk]

Despite all the new builds out, I still use the build based around the WASP. Helps me all the time!

[@TheKknowley]

Still a favourite of mine to go back to!

[@psychoinfernus]

😅😅⁹

[@capsuleC0RP5E]

Probably worth noting that Leech with Hostage Taker can get segments back for just having a Joker. It’s hilarious how many times I’ve been taken to 0 segments, got into cover just before the Ampule ends and boom, free segment so I don’t go down.

[@TheKknowley]

A big clue to the next challenge run is hidden somewhere in this video. Can anyone spot it?

[@smthcreative938]

Hitman?

[@thej2241]

The only thing that seems like a hint is Jimmy with the balaclava mask, soooo…. CSGO? I have no idea.

[@hackersource4634]

Is it possible to beat Payday 2 as PD:TH?

[@ZeAltair101]

From the thumbnail maybe an assassin's creed challenge

[@TheKknowley]

@@thej2241 Closest so far!

[@hackersource4634]

With this build I did my first DSOD heist with AI. and also completed the Black Cat heist for the first time

[@gregoryderpwrld111]

I don’t even know why, but when you said the Black Cat heist, I immediately thought of the Black Cat Cafe from VRChat So now I’m imagining you and 3 AI heisters trying to steal shit from a VRChat map

[@Spencer-ut7bn]

@@gregoryderpwrld111👍🏿

[@nathankwan6570]

I've played this build for a few days now but I've notice something. Despite copying the build exactly only swapping out hostage taker aced for inspire aced my detection is 26 but yours is 23. I may have done something wrong with the boosts not to sure. But overall the build is very fun got a few clutch plays with my group so thank you. Edit: Nvm I figured it out I had the custom rail on when I don't need it

[@kellenliame2674]

I have a question: I’ve noticed a lot of your builds are great for highly technical players with a lot of practice in keeping their shots accurate. Do you have any builds designed for players who struggle to get those headshots for one reason or another? I feel like my gameplay is limited to mayhem on the top end because I am incapable of that level of precision. (A know a bunch of you will just tell me to ‘git gud’ but thanks to a nervous system problem I have, thats not really an option)

[@lillycutie3806]

Shotguns (Grimms / Goliaths) or LMGS / 100 damage ARs with body expertise aced might be a good idea, just hitting them on the body would be much easier I would assume. Add a GL40 or single Grimm w db rounds for shields and you have a pretty well rounded build

[@TheKknowley]

I have a tendency to prefer precision play styles from my fps background but fortunately, Payday 2 is built around all play styles. Have you watched my ‘Toxic Build’, it’s predicated on not aiming at all but still controlling loads of space on heists!

[@kellenliame2674]

@@TheKknowley the name threw me off since I play online a lot, but I’ll go check it out.

[@Umbrohs]

Stoic LMG and Anarchist Lion's Roar (both can be found on KevKild's Steam Build Guide) don't rely on headshots too much and are top tier builds.

[@TV-MA.x_x.]

Tell your system to stop being nervous. EZ.

[@bt_Havok]

Actually a pretty good build, only problem I have with it is that you didnt pick up Scavenger basic, which in my opinion is a skill that should be in every single build (Unless both weapons you're using can't pick up ammo from ammo boxes), so maybe removing Far Away basic in order to get Scavenger would make the build slightly better. Regardless great build and great video as always!

[@mioszmiosz2894]

we need Payday: The Heist build

[@weaponisedautism07theSecond]

Shouldve been pinned

[@Bay1k]

Not a bad build. However I do have some gripes with it. You are missing out on underdog aced. When combined with quick fix, this let's leech tank a heavy zeal with a single segment during the ampule. My other gripe is that you don't have scavenger. Scavenger is just too nice for builds like this. It cuts the time you are looking for ammo. Both of these are easy fixes. Just drop silencer stability for scavenger and drop either unseen basic or nine lives for underdog aced. Also goliaths benefit from close-by ace's rate of fire increase so it actually edges out vd-12s by a quite a margin in terms of dps, especially with a loud compensator such as Donald's horizontal leveller. Not a bad build tho, maybe this video will increase the usage of ap judge as a whole.

[@TheKknowley]

I actually dropped Scavenger for the sake of Far Away Basic for the AP Judge. I agree it's normally a staple skill but Leech does let you get away with more than other decks when it comes to refilling ammo. That Underdog Aced addtion is sick though, will look to add it moving forward with this build. Thanks for the feedback Bay1k!

[@Bay1k]

@@TheKknowley you do have a point for the scavenger case, however I feel naked without that skill. Still, this is probably one of the better builds you have uploaded.

[@KorotasGeckoGamingCorner]

I think a few other things to note on this build are as follows: The Compact Profile Sight or Compact Laser Module could be good for the AP Judge, due to the big suppressor blocking vision in ADS Distractor could theoretically be replaced with some other crew AI ability, I feel like a total of 10% dodge isn't going to help much, but there isn't much left to slot in other then maybe Healer due to being more consistent?

[@Air4302]

What attachments would you recommend for the Goliaths?

[@Asmodeuslover]

Console users like me :(

[@weaponisedautism07theSecond]

:(

[@giornogiovanna5235]

:(

[@theductor_4043]

Real

[@your.paralysis.demon.]

real

[@clocket_iscool]

Same :(

[@helixex]

I would love for you to share a good sicario build, I’ve been having fun with that perk deck, but I’ve also been having trouble finding what weapons work with it.

[@Ze_N00B]

Can you try to make an Infiltraitor build? Its my favorite skill set because of the 7 seconds of 10x melee damage which stacks with bloodthirst to be ludicrous and amazing at killing enemies over and over without expending ammo. With a heavy damage melee like the El Verdugo, you can deal 700 damage per hit, 1400 with pumping iron, letting you insta kill DS cops with ease.

[@MrMrStacho]

I enjoy crew ai inspiring and doc bags bc it essentially makes you immortal

[@SecretTechniqueGuy]

You mention that Unseen Strike is underrated - can you explain how it works in this build? My understanding was that the crit chance that it grants does not stack with Low Blow, and furthermore this build would frequently be taking damage while using the ampule. What is the synergy here that I am missing?

[@emberz3778]

Unseen strike does stack with max low blow. 65% chance to crit is super good for more consistency and more importantly much faster kill time than if you didn't have it. 4 seconds isn't a long time to not get hit. Be it you can take cover, you can kill so quickly they won't be able to land a hit on you, you can proc it manually if you have a self damaging weapon, etc Unseen strike is really nice to take on crit and non crit builds.

[@muffinman9018]

Another thing to keep in mind is that the description is misleading. It makes you think that if you get shot at all, you lose your crits. What it actually means is that after taking damage, if you don't take damage for the next 4 seconds, you get 6 (or 18) seconds of crits and these crits don't go away when taking damage. Edit: I just rewatched the video and saw that the skill description for unseen strike was fixed. Overkill must've changed it a while back so I guess my comment is now irrelevant.

[@Lostenoch]

Been watching for years now always great editing and commentary 10/10 great videos. 👌👌

[@Popcorn_Pillow]

I'd replace the medkits with doc bags. Works better with a build like this imo.

[@TheKknowley]

FAKs are what keep Leech immortal, Doc bags let you self revive but I’d still prefer to say alive in the first place!

[@fallthevillain1128]

@@TheKknowley Another thing is that (from my experience) FAKs can self revive Leech provided you utilize Uppers Ace

[@LuongNguyen-lb6ez]

I'd still recommend the Goliaths over the VD12s for a couple of reasons. Firstly is the higher fire rate which make it better against dozers as well as having higher total ammo and pickup (those extra shells can make a world of difference). You could say the damage increase the VD12s have makes up for that but the goliaths can already hit that breakpoint for one-shotting heavy zeals pretty easily with underdog which is almost always active if you're a client. Auto fire is honestly pretty useless for these types of guns since you're already one-shotting most enemies and is being able to hold down the fire button for a rof of 273 really that useful?. In general, the boost to fire rate that Close By aced provides is so much more valuable.

[@hauntedastolfobeanplushie1956]

Right now being that hacker is at it's strongest, I also like Kevkild's AK Gen 21 hacker build, it is super fun and super op for dsod.

[@TheKknowley]

Hacker feels so much better to use after recent updates. Definitely up there on any tier list. I do think Leech is just that bit more forgiving though.

[@hauntedastolfobeanplushie1956]

@@TheKknowley Oh yeah, definitely, still, hacker right now is probably top 3 at the very least, some people even say top 2 just below leech.

[@samsus_swag]

you heard my cries of sorrow on the update 228 video (probably wont remember me) but eitherway cheers man, it helped me alot. and i have a question about this akimbo vd-12 build: is there a way to turn this into an anarchist build? i would really appreciate it if you show me any sort of guidance into making this an anarchist build

[@TheKknowley]

I do remember actually! Anarchist is my favourite deck so I default to it far too often. I’d probably run this as a standard suit anarchist setup, dropping hostage taker for berserker, running Molotovs and maybe acting out inspire for in exchange for a few points in shotgun skills? Give it a try and let me know how it feels!

[@Doktor_Glass]

do scout PLEASE use the Mosconi as the force of nature its a double barrel shotgun use the gruber as a pistol ( i think its like the pretty boy pocket pistol) from there do what ever use any shotgun that atleast somewhat looks like a scout primary any pistol idc and you have to use the fast skills atleast one use the black beanie and color it red or blue you dont need imfamy for ti

[@mintered9080]

Hello , dont think taht mercy hospital is a good missoin to show how powerfull build is - there is a lot of cover and optimal positions . You can show some really hard maps like heat street or henrys rock for this purpose

[@TheKknowley]

No Mercy is a great heist for showcasing DPS specifically. So is Shacklethorn. 100% take your point but the harder the heist, the more player input is required compared to the build doing the heavy lifting.

[@dexz7646]

@@TheKknowley what skin is in the thumbnail?

[@tots4]

Genuine question, wouldn’t the steak out shotgun be a better option than the judge for this build?

[@gilby_6543]

Steakout isn't as concealable and steakout is a primary while judge is a secondary

[@carbinecryo30716]

The second I saw the title my brain said "it's leech isn't it"

[@dimeyshifty4600]

Man, I can't play above Mayhem on loud. Love the tips man!!

[@CarrotIsBad]

No scavenger 😢😢 Also I’d grab underdog since it can basically double your tanking ability when active, but when you can kill as well as you can with those shotguns then it isn’t as important

[@TheKknowley]

I’ve made those exact changes to my edited build. Still not sure Scav is completely necessary but I do feel a bit naked without it.

[@teewan_scpsl]

I personally use the akimbo strykc 18 pistols because of the insane fire rate and with the right mods, they’re good enough to defeat the bull dozer in seconds

[@crylune]

My modded Buzzsaw can also defeat a Minigun Dozer on DS in seconds. Which lets me put more points into armor / revive rather than dodge / akimbo stuff

[@HonkiePlonkie]

Love that you can just cheat in all the DLC's and the game doesn't give a thing about it. Unlocked all dlc's for free, including characters, weapons, attachements and the heists

[@sabschatz]

1: I would love to know how to do this for future use 2: I'm pretty sure doing that causes you to have the cheater tag above your head, could be wrong

[@ninorurua5036]

You know, hearing about leech makes me want to see a "beating payday2 has heavy wepons guy" Video

[@RealmMaster100]

Hey there, just saying that this build is awesome, i'm only curious as to what modifications you gave your AIs VD-12

[@akipuffy]

Probably the same exact thing tbh

[@apannwans]

Anyone knows which Mask/Suit is on the thumbnail?

[@dexz7646]

you figured out?

[@Vitaliuz]

The skin is "Haunted". A 2022's Halloween event one. And the mask is "Kamul". An infamy lvl 23 reward.

[@rkod4856]

what mods are you using?

[@kinefish1674]

I would really like to see a Max Payne challenge run, signature dual berettas and all the other weapons from that game

[@probablyamadman716e1]

thanks! my school stood no chance

[@santiagomoreno8640]

I prefer using ap slugs instead of 000 buckshot, and using mark 1000 as my secondary. Becaus I use profesional ace so I can kill dozers easily through walls, and mark 1000 as a solid back up weapon for the times I pop but run out of ammo mid way

[@mnjsanchez2567]

Do you have another meta-class for shotguns like that but on Consol?

[@edoardorossi1129]

love those video man thank you so much❤️

[@Demon1a696]

with the same build as this guy the fraction that I get out of cover to shot is enough for me to get down instantly while this guy is playing like its death wish, I don't understand

[@boxyk9]

he has like 3000 hours and he's really good, literally a skill issue

[@Demon1a696]

@@boxyk9 ik but its not about that I'm talking about, there is a clean difference in resistance somehow that I don't understand, there is something missing

[@gilby_6543]

@@Demon1a696 leech was nerfed so its not as strong

[@Demon1a696]

@@gilby_6543 any tips?

[@realtent8322]

Console player here; Could anyone point me towards the console izhma anarchist build mentioned? Ty.

[@jcb7494]

It's maybe my fault for missusing it but I tried this exact complete build to finally go and do DSOD, tried on jewelry store for a small map test and... yeah i got oblitared, i didnt put one bag in the van Do you have any advice on others builds to tackle on DSOD that arent relying on thoses random skills of learning one specific feature? (Steam version with almost all DLC) It's a bummer to not be able to enjoy the game fully, i love doing stealth heist in DSOD or loud in OVK, but can't seem to "get gud" to go beyond that Thanks a lot

[@djprojugs6606]

Ican't even imagine DSOD right now since I'm currently stuck on big bank doing career just on overkill even at lvl 81 (maybe very hard? It's whichever minimum difficulty is for career) I got it all memorized spawns and all but keep getting screwed by lil random things trying for sneak. What upset me the most recently was within 10 games, 3 of them I managed to get vault door on top with server by manager office and computer in server was the correct computer and already had extra card plus first one from casing mode and all 3 times were ruined by the smallest thing lol like one time sixth sense kicked on saw I should be clear to go two feet from server to manager but immediately walked into a guard where they stop in that corner cuz sixth sense didn't outline him talk about rage quitting lmao

[@apexnitro]

Make sure to use cover and play around the cops use ampuael when running in the open

[@5minutenoodles806]

Stoic

[@dr_coil9498]

Hey man, I made the build but in my testing the shotguns instantly make my game crash when I shoot them

[@paipyxd4693]

me too

[@TheKknowley]

Huh, strange. Could it be a mod you have installed?

[@dr_coil9498]

@@TheKknowley I texted it out, it was somehow a glitch with the perk-deck. I made a post on reddit and some guy had the same problem, it was just with all akimbo weapons and only on leech, I just had to change my gun and change it back.

[@dexz7646]

@@TheKknowley what skin is in the thumbnail?

[@Vitaliuz]

@@dexz7646 "Haunted". A 2022's Halloween event one.

[@c3ntress]

With the addition of the copycat perk deck, should I use that with the leech ampule or stick with leech build itself?

[@apchistuz]

Leech

[@suckanegg69]

It won't be as strong as the Leech perk deck on it's own, but Copycat is pretty much a all-in-one perk with some downsides as it meant to fuel up the craziness that you can build with the deck. Not to mention the free 2s Grace Period + 10 HP per headshot and the auto-reload that comes with it.

[@taxrabbbit746]

You are awesome for the carrot mention

[@kat.3784]

I dislike finding good build videos that use weapons from the most recent dlc because im too poor to buy them 💀

[@bing4580]

you can use the akimbo goliaths, the difference in dps is minimal

[@lettu3908]

@@bing4580 do you know how to get that custom slot for auto?

[@4x13x17]

Use Koalageddon + DLC Spoofer. You unlock all the DLCs (Even Scarface's, so you can also try Kingpin), you won't get tagged as cheater, you will be able to play in pubs and your friends don't have to turn off the "kick cheaters" tag just for you.

[@wirdoworld]

Did you ever get that dmr vd-12 build to work?

[@TheKknowley]

It's not a bad build by any stretch, but from further testing it's hard to argue for its use over the Akimbo variant. Strange that they put them both in the same category this time.

[@SirDoodsAlot]

Do you have a link to your anarchist build?

[@mrmiiyagi284]

What’s that outfit? I just got back into Payday and I’ve seen others with it

[@MilesFox92]

I wouldn't recommend giving bots Sharpeyed boost, because you can get bad habbits from it. You may think that your gun is ammo efficient, but as soon as you will lose your Sharpeyed bot - you're screwed x/

[@imveryaverageatpayday58q9]

literally any bot aswell because other bots improve the boost

[@lalaya557]

Quick question since I'm new to Payday, is there a reason why you go for suppressors and concealment things on a loud build?

[@koipix]

with lower concealment less than 35, you can get up to 30%~60% crit rate if aced. thus, suppressors helps lower the concealment of weapons with the help of Ghost Skills from Shinobi tree including the crit aswell.

[@lalaya557]

@@koipix i forgot low blow (or however the 3rd skill in that tree was called) was a skill :X when aced you only need

[@koipix]

mhm with low blow aced and

[@goofy_small_frog]

Take primary flamethrower and secondary flamethrower with ammo bag

[@nuke_m4n]

2:09 bro how many is that going on ur screen

[@k_dotnet3197]

Is it possible to run PD2 on steam deck with all DLC without any issues?

[@hectorgarcia3749]

What mods do you have for see the activated up on the screen and on bottom, and the damange??

[@dorimeameno5514]

More weapon stats

[@haterIV]

well, imma be waiting for the mod which makes the goliaths fully automatic

[@Pyrogaming8]

please tell me how you got a 50 round magazine on the vd-12

[@Тотсамый-х1ж8з]

What's the godamn idea of not taking ace inspire

[@NogHead]

The only downside of this build is my now second M65 Elite mouse is sticking already only after MAYBE a month of use so full auto may be a no go for me.

[@4x13x17]

That's your gamer gunk

[@jjpower2]

The build's fine, but as a DSOD crew chief main I can easily tell you that this doesn't even come close to rivaling the highest KPM builds in the game. Even a simple assault rifle build will be able to outdamage these shotguns while giving you a solid ranged option. Judging from the gameplay shown here (and my own experience getting to 1200 kills with them) it seems as if this build entirely relies on leech and cops being distracted rather than making use of the shotguns and I just wanted to point that out.

[@mr.mellow9949]

Holy shit this build SHREDS 😂

[@benjaminireland858]

I can’t get tier 4 skills? I do everything the same but I can’t get those skills I don’t have enough perks specked or something

[@PhantomMelody1876]

awesome build

[@agent6z6zt19]

Can i know what suit the thing in the thumbnail is? 😿

[@Vitaliuz]

"Haunted". A 2022's Halloween event one.

[@russellsnell9148]

im new to the game and all the videos im seeing, people are able to get to the tip skill tier with less points spent than it is making me spend

[@TheKknowley]

You just need to hit Infamy 1 to get that benefit!

[@gaffarefesarhan2489]

What is your mod list bro can you share?

[@filipfrondelius3644]

This looks glorius. Im going to test it out on rouge instead

[@Wooper751]

Can i replicate thus build with grimms?

[@G4FT3R]

Can i use this build with kingpin ?

[@CptDawner]

Leech is gross. I got my DS and OD masks separately even before leech was released. Hell I got ‘em before the White House heist years ago. These days those masks barely mean squat because they’re so easy to get with builds like these.

[@Rinharty]

Can we get more videos aka updates on builds?

[@DavidWinters-y6q]

Is this build still really good now?

[@gilby_6543]

Leech was nerfed so it's not as strong

[@yacm639]

What is the mask on the minature of the video?? Please tell me i saw today a player with the same mask but i cant find were is

[@Dj612001]

If I’m not mistaken it should be the Kamul mask acquired from infamy rank, unless it is a different version of said mask I don’t know about

[@yacm639]

@@Dj612001 y have the kamul mask but is not s a diferent mask i think

[@ocqo7503]

what on earth would you use 9 lives ace if you do DS/OD

[@HereIam887]

If you get downed and before you could patch up with doctor bag its an extra chance

[@4x13x17]

Nine lives adds an extra down. That's why people pick it all the time, One Down becomes Two Downs

[@scottlandforever4411]

My dumbass level 93 melee build: WHAT DO YOU MEAN!?!?

[@nagoof6447]

I already did all you ask,but my detection risk is still above 30,how to fix it?

[@halfknight6706]

If you're following his build to a T, and still have 30 concealment, you obviously did something wrong.

[@KO_0]

Guys is sneaky basterd good for pistol build? Or for crit build ?

[@suckanegg69]

Depends on what perk deck you're on, the only reason you'd go for Sneaky Bastard is if you're going for a dodge build or a risky Hacker dodge build (or a Rogue build, or really any build as long as dodge is viable of use e.g. Anarchist, Stoic)

[@Vesteria_]

Does anyone know the suit and the mask he used in the thumbnail?

[@neruviencastro1384]

why does it only require you to have 16 to get the last skill while i needed 18?

[@EduardoGmes563]

because you dont have infamy 1

[@blink00359]

7:33 lol there is so many bodies and he just ignores them

[@fraser._.5878]

You should do Star Wars weapons only

[@xenoot4625]

My concealment is at 29 and not 23 why?

[@sracz20000]

I love your vids! Probably the best pd2 youtuber.

[@Pollkat22]

Ngl I feel like ya the best to learn from for payday and yes I think I’m a fanboy now 😆👍

[@Dominik189]

Lol I gave up on the DSOD achievement 3 years ago.

[@WENDIGO_FROM_THE_VOID]

Can u tell all the mod u use in vid

[@TheKknowley]

It's just the one that you're really noticing, PocoHUD. I'll add it to description now.

[@dgabka6640]

What you get this skin in preview?

[@Vitaliuz]

"Haunted". A 2022's Halloween event one.

[@writerlairchannel2636]

This is my opinion, but i think that build are just pointless, because it requires you to use certain weapons, grenades and so on, and as a result you use equipment that you doesn't want, and not having fun in the process only in a result. If you play third person game for example witcher 3, swords does not matter, but in first person your weapon affects a lot of aspects (animations like it or not, design, sound, magazine amount, effects like fire and so on), 1. i think its pointless in any game because it blocks you from other tactics, abilities, and so on 2. Its boring because you need to change weapons sometimes

[@FreelancerContent]

i literally bought the weapon pack just for this 💀

[@warb1nger]

How do you get the shotguns?

[@leohbzalk8951]

Great video, gj.

[@Babasrian]

What do you use that shows the damage you deal?

[@TheKknowley]

Many Info HUD Mods do. I use PocoHUD regularly.

[@Babasrian]

@@TheKknowley Okay Thanks

[@MyUsersDark]

It's a HUD mod, I believe he uses PocoHud in this video

[@aquajet2817]

Boy I sure am glad to be a payday 2 console player in *current year* :)

[@imveryaverageatpayday58q9]

im both console and pc but my laptop caps out at 40 fps at best and usually stays at 20-25 fps, so console it is

[@mosder9872]

I wish leech ampule lasted 6 seconds, but unfrtunately I believe it lasts 10 seconds. I might be wrong though, considering to this day I sit with 13700 perk points available, because I refuse to ever use leech lol. Also, you said grimms and pretty sure you meant goliaths :p Edit: It seems like you corrected yourself with text about the grimms, my bad

[@5minutenoodles806]

Leech really isn't as OP as it is made out to be. Stoic is still a much more powerful deck.

[@croncastle3028]

What mods are being used here?

[@ma4ete1947R]

can u do about lmg build on Anarchist?

[@NickZH3Z]

what mods do you use

[@ilovegur0]

pointing and laughing at all of the console players

[@ewanb0100]

Ah yes, the GTX 4090 0:35

[@TheKknowley]

haha, oops. Not my slickest ad.

[@maelxmusic1613]

Ah yes the life of a console heister… I CANT USE THESE SHOTGUNS!!!😤

[@SheolAbaddonus666]

I'm going to steal a PC just so I can play Payday again.

[@peteplayss7426]

Gang the personal computer go get it.