Payday 3 : Year 2 - What We Know And What I Want

Croc Outlines The Currently Known Future Updates Payday 3's Second Year And Shares Some Of His Own Wishes
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[@messiahshow]

I absolutely agree on twitch drops, even if I have gotten all so far this FOMO style of item drops in game is really annoying me. If I came into payday 3 in 1 year from now and realised there are like 30 masks, stickers, 10 suits etc I can never get because I didn't watch twitch drops back at launch I would quit the game there and then.

[@ihniioleg]

That's right, all this fomo stuff and content for actions performed outside of the game motivates me not to play games in which they appear.

[@fabriziosalazar8687]

yall got a point but they are only cosmetics it won't affect gameplay whether if you have those items or not. personally I don't see this as a problem, however, if they add weapons or favors, that can be a problem but I don't think they want to harm the game by doing that.

[@streambot4185]

preach. i jus recently started payday 3 a couple days before fear and greed and i personally am having ALOT of fun but im a collector at heart and not being able to collect countless cosmetics, arguably the best part of the payday series, sucks alot

[@Bocahj4]

100% this. I hate fomo with a passion. For me, if i can't get everything, then it kills my desire to collect.

[@messiahshow]

@@fabriziosalazar8687 A lot of people are collectors and like to 100% their games. Now they can't, the whole twitch drop thing is bad overall. Why not have these items drop in game for challenges and milestones you reach. The game already suffer from stuff to do after a certain level and a fun grind aspect on the heists are also lacking. By putting items on twitch you just have people go outside the game to get them instead of playing to get them, how is that helping the game? The player count would be way higher if people were actually in the game right now trying to get these items by playing instead of sitting on twitch. I know it's some free commercial on twitch for the game but make them temporary then. Like if you get the twitch drops you have the items 1-2 months before they are released for everyone else in game. To fully block them out is stupid but I am not surprised, Starbreeze has done and are continuing to do stupid decisions, not sure who it is doing these calls but that person need to be kicked out fast if they want to survive.

[@ForeverKnifes]

I agree with a lot of your points, however the one that I completely disagree with is having preset weapons with unique abilities/attachments. Especially with a micro transaction store on the horizon that could be a huge catastrophe if they sell weapons with attributes that no one else can get unless you pay for that preset weapon

[@Crit_Croc]

I wouldn't want to be able to purchase weapons as that will lead to what happened with call of duty advanced warfare. it was more as a way to reward players for progressing higher in the renown system with unique weapons

[@antynomity]

I hope they move away from the chapter dlc releases, they are so predictable. Imagine if out of nowhere they start teasing a new heist, not because there's a time they need to release a DLC for, but because they made something new and cool and we're getting it when it's ready. Id love this especially if we were going to get a heist of the scale of things like Big Bank to start getting teased out of the blue, they already have the gateway report so the stage is set for things like these.

[@Crit_Croc]

I would also love that but I don't see them doing this games like Fortnite and warzone have honestly poisoned higher ups in companies to loving the seasonal model as they want to emulate the success of these games so badly

[@johannswart9859]

There are a couple of things I really want. Sounds and text appear when I secure a bag and pick up instant loot. If I equip my OKW and I can call in another OKW, instead of having two lying around, I can pick up the ammo from the other OKW. Map rework/updates A lot of maps need small updates. The new heist for fear and greed adds a piece of equipment to control and move the crane for the escape; maybe we add this to 99 box instead of circles. Dirty ice. Add the closing rail we have on diamond district. On loud, we create a closed area where the cops either go around or need to break through. In stealth, it will make it easy to control the lobby with all the people that always walk in. They could even add the switch in the scanner room. Under the surface. This map needs a bigger rework, in my opinion. Add a basement and move the security room, server room, and staff room downstairs. Remove the circle objective and replace it with a similar objective like gold and shark or turbid. In the basement, you start a hack; you then have a set amount of time to run from the basement to the control panels. If you are fast enough, you can do both in one run; otherwise, you do two runs. Lastly, Perks I don't want a PD 2 perk system; I want a perk system more like COD where you can select three different perks. Team support: • Saw as a tool (open lockboxes/doors or railings like on Under the Surface) • Supply drop instead of an Overkill weapon • Inspire. Add movement speed/damage reduction to teammates. Revive from a distance. GET THE F@#% UP!!!! Self-support: • Double bags Weapons: • Akimbo (you choose your left-hand weapon and right-hand weapon) • Use one-handed approved primary as secondary (SMG, AR) Other things could be added to these perks.

[@tik2243]

They really need to rework the old heists

[@braedengriffiths4249]

You had me until the cod-like perk system. Other than that, I agree.

[@Crit_Croc]

having a 3 perk system similar to cod would actually limit builds even more pigeon holing players into very specific playstyles and weapons when using certain perks as you can only pick three. Even in cod i sometimes find the 3 perk system limiting to build potential in the bo6 beta players were pigeon holed into using the same colour off perks because they synergized the best with each other and this would also happen in payday if a similar system was made the current way we actually make builds is more customizable for the player than a 3 perk system

[@johannswart9859]

@@Crit_Croc Perk are to be an addition not a way to get rid of skills. perk are for "skills" that adds an additional function. Saw as tool, carry multiple bags, PD3 will never work on just perks but some skill at the moment feels like point sinks, having perk in my opinion will add more to loadout builds. I never said I don't want skills I still do just with perks...

[@Crit_Croc]

@@johannswart9859 ahh i misunderstood could be a cool idea but i feel like you would run into the problem of deciding what should be a perk or a skill the example of multiple bags is already a skill so these perks would probably have to be a bit more drastic of a change maybe having both postive and negative traits with each so like a strong man perk that allows you to move faster with heavier bags and also keep better control of heavier weapons but enemies target you more often idk im spit balling ideas but it is an interesting idea actually

[@Fetch-]

A thing I’d really like is just more banks with random variables I used be able to play go bank or harvest & trustee over an over again, and definitely a nrftw gold and safety deposit box variant. I just love bank heist if ya couldn’t tell

[@AgentCrocodile]

For the skills, I would take the time to check what deserves to stay on the skill tree, what needs to be revamped and what should eventually be granted additional skills or even become actual passives. Especially on that one in which the final skill is being able to pick up gadgets that were not activated yet to return them to the inventory. Like, what gives? We make an oopsie and we're SOL... Welp. Also, for the love of all that is holy... We need a serious rework of the gun sounds! Payday 2's gunshots sounded stronger and PD3's gunshots are pathetic. Hopefully OVK/Starbreeze can turn this game around with the year going on. And YES! WE NEED A CROCODILE MASK. I always wore the Raptor Mask religiously in Payday 2.

[@Netanel10531]

I think its not fair to lower the price now for everyone who brought the dlcs or the gold and silver edition

[@Crit_Croc]

True but you could say that for any dlcs they already discount them quite often so i would see a problem with lowering if it makes the game easier to get into for newer players

[@opticalsalt2306]

I think anythitn similar to the legacy pack from payday 2 would be perfect, first year or two for ~10-$20 on sale, that’s how I picked up pd2 it was an insane deal

[@arbert....8654p]

Let's Celebrate PD3 comeback 🎉✨🎉✨🎉✨🎉✨🎉✨🎉

[@messiahshow]

No more licensed stuff that just gets removed after a while. Look at PD2 now things just disappearing so please no. Don't do collabs if it's gonna be removed after a few years.

[@KookyC]

Someone obviously doesn’t know how contracts work. Nor do they understand the demand for crossovers. And it’s not “a few years”. You have over a decade to buy these products. Starbreeze extends them out as much as possible and even give warning when they are going off the store. Plus it’s not like it’s removed from your game when it’s delisted.

[@messiahshow]

@@KookyC It doesn't have to be delisted at all that's silly. It's like Cyndi Lauper want to remove the Goonies tune from The Goonies 2 on the NES after a few years. What kind of shit deals are Starbreeze doing. They should never disappear period and they don't always give warnings that clearly.

[@Crit_Croc]

Almost any game that licenses anything runs into this problems down the line I cant think of a single time anything was licensed for a movie tv show or game that lasted forever and in payday 2 at least you can still access said content some games rip it out like gta 4 with is absolutely gutted music list also payday isnt a big franchise like some games are and when they got the Scarface Ip they probably had to beg a plead with universal for it but then a game like Fortnite companies are basically begging to get their stuff in it so basically yeah the contracts are not going to be in their favour unfortunately

[@messiahshow]

@@Crit_Croc And this is why I said it's better they skip the licensed stuff. We are losing heists, characters etc. It's just bad and not necessary.

[@Crit_Croc]

I mean I thought the licensed heists from payday 2 is some of the best content in the game and no their not necessary to the game but do they help it a lot having collaborations helps to expand the games reach into another player base potentially growing the actual fanbase itself if done correctly. i'd be willing to bet alot of new players picked up payday 2 for the john wick collaboration when it was new i bet new people learnt about the game from the siege cosmetics also again we haven't actually lost anything in payday 2 its still in the files yes you cant buy it but their are ways to obtain them still and hopefully starbreeze learnt a lesson with this and actually find a way to keep this content always available for all players in the future

[@Tehstampede]

I like the idea of preset weapons, but I dont think any of them should be just 100% better than a standard weapon. I think it would be better if they just had a gimmick instead, like a shotgun that shoots dragons breath rounds but has very low impact damage and has a chance to overheat if fired too much, for example. That way the standard weapons never become useless and the game doesnt turn into a grindfest for the best preset weapon. I also really like your idea about having a new version of the Infamy web for endgame progression; I think having a money element too would give us something to keep grinding out cash for.

[@Crit_Croc]

That is kind of the idea I was trying to explain I wouldn't want the preset weapons to be just better but give a unique twist on an existing gun that we cannot make with the attachments we have. for example ak47 preset that makes it into a ak74u or an the mp5 to an mp5k or even slight changes like the scar H to a scar L

[@Skyfar532]

there are no wifi circles in gold and shark stealth

[@Crit_Croc]

damn ur right i guess my brain decided to remember something that isnt in the game . That problem would apply to something like under the surphaze

[@dogomage9003]

i need dualweild

[@kidshoppaopbeats]

Is it possible to get twitch drops on console ?

[@Crit_Croc]

yes you just need to have a nebula account connected to you twitch account and then that nebula account connected to the console you are playing on

[@kidshoppaopbeats]

@@Crit_Croc thank you so much for your response !!!! Take Care of you, god bless you 💫💫

[@Lucios1995]

6:01 Wish we could pay C-Stacks for DLC weapons, kinda like Helldivers 2

[@backlawa7527]

difference is helldivers 2 has a larger playerbase (and sony money lmao) so they can afford to let the average player earn premium currency but the thing is that the average player will not be fucked to grind a long time or wait to get the new warbond so they just pay 1-10 bucks to get the remaining amount also if they decided to let you earn dlc shit for free a lot of players including me would feel kinda fucked over

[@estrogenizedbird9161]

i want more customization. masks are awful, depressing and worse then pdth

[@DunkaccinoThe3nd]

+Subscribe, These videos are very high quality and I really dig the silly croc in the corner

[@jedthementalist5112]

I want anything that adds to the roleplay of a heister. Big things like preplanning (especially start/exit locations) and a safe house to customise/defend. 15:23 Plus, a few smaller things like an animation of your heister putting in an earbud as they pick a track on their phone (whenever we want a different pace of music), like a homage to Baby Driver. I know the little things aren't a priority but we've been steadily getting the weapon/interaction animations... so maybe.

[@YeetaIta]

I largely agree with what you said, the 3 things I think need to be done before the game can be confidently recommended are Skills 2.0, giving the core heists more replayability/variation, and adjustments to the weapon progression system and attachment impact. But at the very least the skill system, very hit or miss in terms of impact, a lot of tedious micromanagement, etc. The only thing I disagree with is needing to streamline DLC packs, I think it's fairly clear and concise how each content pack is divided up: heist pack, weapon pack, cosmetic pack, and all 3 in a bundle. Overall, it's nice to see the game actually getting recommended, even if only at a discount, as well as negative reviews switching to mixed (again, as mid as that sounds).

[@CristianGalanHernandez]

I predicted one thing for myself when i thought insede my head pd3 its going to fail because pd2 has insane amount of content and they bringing a sequel of a live service game

[@PersonalMint]

I like the idea to buy permanent upgrades etc, for the zipline i reckon youd have to buy it individually per heist. Replace favors with preplanning, make randomisation as extensive as 2. Add Big Bank and Golden Grin, also add multi-day heists again. Heisters need to be more vocal and interactive in each heist, random line tangents are good 👍 👌 Also, new OVK weapons should be locked behind future infamy levels more incentive to hit these levels

[@allisonshoemaker6866]

There is a big complaint I have with this video, and that is the fact that you got "I will give you my all" stuck in my head again

[@DrewzRule]

If Starbreeze is trying to avoid duplicating weapons like in Payday 2 (Pistols, SMGS), why not make a skill tree to akimbo pistols and small smgs?