I will be adding west wind numbers tomorrow guys! Need a follow up to this! Also, kinda scared to show WW in case they nerf it ever lolol
@shavan_senpai2 ай бұрын
Let it be underrated like Saitama don't show god level lol
@MohssenAiden2 ай бұрын
Payne don't do it 😞 trust they watching you
@oneautumnleaf47472 ай бұрын
truee
@alaminior2 ай бұрын
Why didn't you showcase the skewer?
@MonkeyDGoofy-iu5lx2 ай бұрын
it'd be cool to show the other good SR weapons such as the Radiru Bow, Orb, demon spear etc. I wanna be able to tell the differences between those and the SSRs
@ABDULLAH-I7II2 ай бұрын
you are on of most content creators that needs more love and donate you so clear and friendly ❤
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
❤️
@tatsukinomiya2 ай бұрын
Best SLA content creator on the platform, no debating it. Personality, comedy, *cough*music taste*cough*, & very transparent testings
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Ty my brotha 😃!
@inochikage2 ай бұрын
I feel the Skadi was always for mob clearing since it hits everything around you.
@Muraofficial293152 ай бұрын
im happy you did some retesting. esp giving the scythe a little more justice than it deserved from earlier today. and yes the bow puts up insane numbers with its core dmg i got it to a5 three days ago and its core is crazy.
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
100%. Needed to be done
@arsi.k22152 ай бұрын
Thank you payne for your time. Glad you did this.
@somewhiteguy41972 ай бұрын
Man I appreciate the hell outta you for this. Doing damage test like this can be so time consuming and slightly frustrating. Like you said I hope the devs can find this video and do some proper adjustments to weapons so the game can have some more variety at late game stages
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
💯
@FroodyIchigo2 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do this for us, great content as always!
@monkeysage64472 ай бұрын
I'm glad you did this. People in Natto toxic discord tried to tell me Scythe damage is not great. I just feel bad for the guy that has a A3 Scythe not including the free one his first day. But he was told to reroll to get a plum sword because the scythe is "trash".
@дигл_лайв2 ай бұрын
The problem with Scythe isn't that it's damage is low, it's that there isn't currently any content where it's better then Plum + Moonshadow. So it is kinda trash currently.
@andrejpancic19242 ай бұрын
considering SJW is using demon king dagger almost MAJORITY of SL MANHWA i expect that weapon to be broken
@Titan0_72 ай бұрын
We need to 1stly let them(NB) know cos they may not want that
@farhan-mir2 ай бұрын
Don't forget to have rest and enjoy life once in a while also
@om_f702 ай бұрын
Nice video keep the good work Payne ❤
@zenjiro_kamado2 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing all this testing. Scythe is top three and is still carrying me through most content.
@nani19482 ай бұрын
Appreciate a lot for all the contents you have been giving us. 👍👍
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
❤️
@nani19482 ай бұрын
Now cant wait to see how West Wind will do.😊
@om_f702 ай бұрын
Nice video keep up the good work Payne ❤
@artoriasoftheabyss5002 ай бұрын
Big Payne another amazing video I needed this data
@Monkeiy.D2 ай бұрын
Nice one Payne, would be cool to have a tier list considering the best Support weapons, for the best combinations!
@Santosh-zf5fr2 ай бұрын
Thnx for info bro. Imagine fighting the same fkin fatchna 45 times. Can't imagine doing that. Appreciate it man. And I must say this is informative as I was levelling up scythe n grimore so I know what to do now.
@MetazioGaming2 ай бұрын
appreciate you bro for this content this a good one!
@ImSUNNY112 ай бұрын
Dyam bro salute to your dedication to make these kinda content 🔥🔥
@ChaseNFreedom2 ай бұрын
Weapons should scale based on a some percentage of your main character. No matter if it’s attack or overall. That way, you could use any weapon you wanted.
@freefolkgaming2 ай бұрын
that won't benifit netmarble 😂
@ChaseNFreedom2 ай бұрын
@@freefolkgaming that part. Lol Since I’m anti beneficial to netmarble, let’s go on and add marvel vs capcom style team combos! Really spice things up lol
@MADSÌ_Ì2 ай бұрын
Love the video, crazy results and too bad that we didn’t see WW testing vs SSR weapons. Would love to see that but still great content ❤
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
coming tomorrow for WW
@MADSÌ_Ì2 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade you’re always on it and we love it, keep it up champ 💪🏽
@fastlion27472 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this one
@DG_CT962 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting Payne! Now I'm happy I lost so many 50/50s and have an A10 Scythe! 😅
@conneryechout71432 ай бұрын
zekes #1 as i thought xD i've been doing some testing recently and it seems like the DPS weapon of choice for "burst-heavy" content, close to 30 million dmg proc's of the drop ability with full buffs
@lykan_hypersport2 ай бұрын
Hello payne i have a question. I currently have a1 pheonix soul and a6 orb of avarice which is better between them through current advancements
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Tbh orb maybe better at that stage
@lykan_hypersport2 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade oh thanks
@Thranotheoneandonly2 ай бұрын
Never expect plum to be that great in damage, but its the best offhand regardless of weakness
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
It's why I used it because most people would use
@alaminior2 ай бұрын
Why didn't you add the juicy skewer?
@saikat8172 ай бұрын
remember when i commented in previous video saying scythe is underrated!!! but yea debuffs add a lot gotta agree with that at the end of the day
@Malravenous2 ай бұрын
Not to mention that Plum increased dark damage by 25 and Crit chance and crit dmg of the next weapon skill sttack, so I think you should omly run 1 weapon
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Would u run one weapon in a real game? What's the most common 2ndary weapon people use?
@Malravenous2 ай бұрын
@PayneBlade No I wouldn't, but I don't always use plum. So I'd want to know how much damage the weapon does in of itself as well as with the #1 partner weapon. Still aprpeciate the testing, hwoever
@Santosh-zf5fr2 ай бұрын
Grimore does more dmg to frozen targets
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Yep so that's where the numbers will be skewed a.bit
@DiLiP._30.k2 ай бұрын
Bro payne , just few minutes ago i got myself goo to A3 which i wanted the most and won the back to back 50/50
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Grats!
@divakarrajsrinivasan.b80492 ай бұрын
Most awaited ❤
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
❤️
@godxvbtff19032 ай бұрын
Well well well......now you guys know why I was denying about sychthe being in low tier than other weapons in ranking teir in weapons video .........😂😂😂every people was arguing about my decision but now you know how powerful it is as a dps
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
issue with scythe is it requires 2 big things. 1) A5 and 2) A5 plum for full potential while other weapons can be much more viable at lower stages
@godxvbtff19032 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade yeah payne but the point I was talking about is how much of a beast is for f2p players in terms of damage .....people just ignoring the damage of it like it is a dumb weapon is intolerable
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
@@godxvbtff1903 oh yea I've been saying it's a great dps for a long time but it's just a lot to get up there. A1 is still a great spot for it
@françois80592 ай бұрын
Hi Payne, does it mean that Zeke is better when paired with Moonshadow instead of Plum? Thank you, and much appreciation for the hard work you put into every video.
@colegillgrass33732 ай бұрын
Moonshadow and its not even close
@françois80592 ай бұрын
@@colegillgrass3373 thanks bro 👍🏻
@Neeraj123552 ай бұрын
In mahila the strongest using by jinwoo is the kamish dagger I am waiting for it to come
@liz48842 ай бұрын
People sleeping on moonshadow the only weapon that was heavily nerfed due to the test not including shadow steps and still ranked 5th even tho its a ''support weapon'' the whole point that moonshadow debuff is 3 sec only is cause you can reapply through shadow steps
@theCommentDevil2 ай бұрын
Moonshadow is my fave weapon because of the shadow step damage increase. I have it at A4 and between shadow step and that I had a high orc slowed down for a crazy amount of time
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Yes Liz, 100% correct on this. That lunar eclipse debuffs is reapplied with shadow step increasing DMG by 15%
@theCommentDevil2 ай бұрын
Ive been a little shocked with the hunstman too, i think its that close range damage increase
@dorathexplorer69692 ай бұрын
Well demon king long sword can be used for stages where are more mobes due to its lightning
@10ENTRAIS2 ай бұрын
Kan't wait to test the Demon King's Daggers + Grimiore and the Moonshadow Daggers
@vasileiosvan68162 ай бұрын
Payne, what was the element on the curse bracelet? That plays a significant role
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Element doesn't work atm but it was wind
@YoussefComi2 ай бұрын
Have u considered that Zeke's and scythe with plum have more dark dmg from passive so they have higher number ? If that is the case then the bow is the strongest or second strongest
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Yep but I'm also being practical in regards to what the most common 2ndary weapon is
@rachidrichard42622 ай бұрын
for the demon sword all going for the counter , and on you test , because you sung die quick you not tested that , but if you test with all time counter i'm sure this do much better damage
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
The counter effect is important but I gave it bonus at the end already
@CineFrameOdyssey71562 ай бұрын
i had do so much work to get r5 of shadow sythe a plum ,glad that it still has power
@MaxMustermann-qt1qw2 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity what element did your bracelet have/increase ?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Currently not working but it was wind
@MaxMustermann-qt1qw2 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade Ahh alright thanks !
@Deep458362 ай бұрын
I just got the new SSR light spear, got lucky with the guild boss rewards😁
@mcap06112 ай бұрын
Does the Grimoire lose damage since its A5 is not freezing?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
100%
@solomonluchavez63072 ай бұрын
Another banger video payne! Can i ask a favor? Can you also try this test on westwind?
@anonymous_entity_002 ай бұрын
Moonshadow and Plum or Westwind and Plum is the best combo.
@Kaminon15162 ай бұрын
2 Hours at least putting into this video. How many Shadow Steps you instinctively activated by accident and had to restart ? Thank you for the content! I'd say to everyone this is an informative content and should not discourage or triggers anyone with their preferred weapons. See you on the stream!
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Ty my brotha! Always appreciate you, ur generosity and time
@lambodragon90982 ай бұрын
we need west wend stats because i believe it might be the highest out of them
@quentinneyrat38902 ай бұрын
Does the 15% dark dmaage bonus from a3 stacks between weapons ? Wouldn't that explain how all dark weapons are on top ?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
It does yes but I have to use something that most people would use as their 2ndary and that's usually the plum
@quentinneyrat38902 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade makes sense of course. But it explains the supremacy of dark weapons i guess. Love your content btw !
@mayankd07192 ай бұрын
Bro really 30 min video keep your health in check bro and thanks for the video 😊
@Sayishere2 ай бұрын
Scared to see west winds numbers lol, its gonna be to much better than the rest 😅
@TheGiantDouch2 ай бұрын
Hey man, you should've taken the best out of the five results, not the total. Also, thanks a lot for your efforts. Your content is always spot on.
@starsniper39732 ай бұрын
Honestly man respect for doing this lol, cuz i would have been burned tf out of this game.
@EduSant222 ай бұрын
it is disguting the powercreep, i am not even sure if i go after zeke a5 is good because next week scythe can be buffed and be better again, every week they change to make us spend more and more, disguting.
@zer04672 ай бұрын
for the phoenix bow, wouldn't it be good to dash before each core attack?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Only if u use plum sword but not everyone will
@zer04672 ай бұрын
Wouldn't testing the weapons without plum as the secondary be better then? I'd assume that dark weapons have an advantage by default when you have a5 or higher plum
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
@zer0467 making it practical. No one uses weapons without a 2ndary weapon and the plum is the most popular
@Takemikazuchi_Arashikage2 ай бұрын
Pls Netmarble...I really want a proper Buff for DKL as somehow it's my first a5 without even being in my list for draws and it's my fav weapon from the manhwa
@Xuyesi2 ай бұрын
Yeah they shoved A5 down my throat and kept me using a super weak weapon the whole time 😂
@Mfmail124842 ай бұрын
What do u think about the good SR weapons ? Like orb of avar or west wind etc west wind is obviously the best wind weapon but what about orb of ava for small spenders or f2p ? For example i have orb at A10 while i have bow at A1 , which one is better u think ?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Already made a video on this. U can check out the orb vs Vulcan rage vs bow. Orb is amazing
@celebritiecelebrities28882 ай бұрын
Ur not using Phoenix bow at its max potential. U can dash and then use the core attack of the Phoenix bow to do more damage like. Dash>skill>dash>core atk>dash>core atk this is the max potential i think and can u re test Phoenix bow doing this pls. Thank U!
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
That only applies with plum and I did that tbh on runs I didn't record haha.
@françois80592 ай бұрын
First of all, there is no mention in the Phoenix bow weapon description anywhere that dashing followed by core deals higher dmg, so I am assuming the dashing is to activate amplifying draw, if so, amplifying draw only enhances skill dmg, which is the weapon skill itself so it doesn't affect core dmg at all. secondly, even if I am wrong and amplifying draw does increase core atk as well, then in an actual fight, it's not even possible to use it to its "max potential" as you mentioned when dashes are so precious in end game content, using 3 dash jus to activate phoenix skill and core is just not viable, not to mention the fact that if pairing with plum, you need to dash to full bloom making it 4 dashes to use plum and phoenix in just ONE rotation, dash takes about 2-3 seconds to be up and the max dash is only 3 by default, it is only possible to do 4 dashes whenever using plum and phoenix if you don't attempt to dodge and that's meant not using shadow step which would be ironic as to reach max potential for phoenix bow, you are sacrificing the max potential for maximum damage by using shadow step. lastly, in end game content, you would need to dodge most of the time as each atk is fatal enough to kill especially when equipping curse artifacts or blessings like chains of blood, double edge sword, or even boss slayer which increases dash cooldown, and also weapon like scythe which also increase dmg taken. all in all, your method is only viable if dash is unlimited, and even so amplifying draw doesn't increase core atk( I may be wrong but I am fairly certain it only increases skill dmg and not core) so what Payne is doing for phoenix is the right move
@celebritiecelebrities28882 ай бұрын
@@françois8059 the core attack doesn't get the skill damage boost but still get the 32% increase in crit rate and crit dmg with a3 plum and there is a blessing that's gives 1 extra dash and it's good for pod
@françois80592 ай бұрын
@@celebritiecelebrities2888 ohhh, I totally forgot about that, you are right but Iike you said, I think it’s only good for pod where survival is not an issue at high lvl, outside of that in any hard hitting content, I still don’t think it’s good to use 5 dashes( 1 for shadow step, 1 for full bloom, 3 for Phoenix) in one rotation but it’s just my opinion and Ofc I respect yours too.
@haast092 ай бұрын
i just recognized you said no gear changes that means one element will get a buff thru the one piece and the other will not
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Nope elements don't work atm. It's a known issue. No elemental advantage at all
@Mondiu2 ай бұрын
Yo payne, just wondering why not just use one weapon? I know that in game we'll be almost always pairing with plum sword but wouldn't it give a better baseline
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
cause no one would use one weapon at a time
@Mondiu2 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade Yeah but the pheonix bow might've beat out the zeke since plum sword gives something like 30% extra dark damage
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Ya I know but I have to keep it consistent somehow..most people would still use bow with plum
@Mondiu2 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade I guess ur right man, we know we gonna use pheonix bow for fire content and zeke for shadow. Thanks for the info as always as well.
@MetazioGaming2 ай бұрын
everytime you diss skadi like 1000x in this video i get hurt😔😔😔 ... that gun carried me on wobl ... hope they buff it more
@haast092 ай бұрын
5:20 did i miss something why is he using plum while testing the bow huh
@Rengoku77442 ай бұрын
Yo, Payne Do all the artifacts drop rate is same on instances??? I rarely very rarely get Expert set!!!. For some reason every single run they keep giving me concentration of fire power or outstanding connection. It's like the game dont want me to give expert at all!!!!!!!
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Ya it's all the same
@arsi.k22152 ай бұрын
Should I push Grimwoire to A5?
@nobertobrown85492 ай бұрын
noticed skewer wasn't included 🤷
@gingeek47762 ай бұрын
SR weapons when ? that'd be interesting to see the margin between SSRs and SRs
@playboifarti_jm2 ай бұрын
i love the alicia tan videos
@chuyencuabin57652 ай бұрын
zeke is powerful.....it can attack twice
@IGOverkill2 ай бұрын
The problem with Scythe is that it's just not fun to use.
@chrkristensen50332 ай бұрын
Certain weapons are just better from the buffs they give
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
100%
@BeastBoy_XD2 ай бұрын
Got 2 skadi last week in the new weapon draw banner😢😢
@haast092 ай бұрын
9:22 u say huntsman but in yt bar stand moonshadow and plum i think u forgot to put plum and moonshadow in then like the mentioning using it
@randybraham66502 ай бұрын
Does anyone know how you change the color on sung Jin woo cyber punk outfit
@dicasdeinglesbr20022 ай бұрын
You can't, that was exclusive for the first 3,000 who cleared hard mode vulcan.
@lacoulgaming47152 ай бұрын
West wind might have crossed 100 million I guess
@GAMINGBLACKYASH2 ай бұрын
I still can't find how to change color of my cyberpunk costume 😢,gosh
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Because u need to be top 1k to have killed Vulcan hard
@GAMINGBLACKYASH2 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade oh that makes sense, thanks man,
@avidius91752 ай бұрын
Where are the westwind numbers?😂
@xknight7882 ай бұрын
Hey I just changed my guild and I can't fight the guild boss the game is not allowing me could somebody tell me what is happening
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
There Is a penalty until reset
@75Shad0ws2 ай бұрын
On THIS is some *chief kiss* content!
@Azuvidexus2 ай бұрын
I wanted to try this game but it crashes pretty often 😢
@vonreiji38592 ай бұрын
Looks like my f2p resources almost depletes 😂😂 still a1 Alicia. I need her to be a5 ASAP. Instead i got my Cha after 3 long month without her and she's a1 too. Idk if i should be thanksfull or not but hmmm idk
@Zenitsu_amvz2 ай бұрын
Summer event weapon???
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
just buffing weapons. they would be the worst of the bunch and the marlin is an aoe weapon
@kouideranes78652 ай бұрын
West wind?
@bobaaqbaq2 ай бұрын
Didnt zeke have above 100mil dmge with moonshadow!?? Int last vid
@notkiver2 ай бұрын
I'm actually surprised grimoire is the worst in term of dps i thought it did more damage than that
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Opponent can't freeze sadly where a ton of DMG comes from
@wannabe72972 ай бұрын
i was told that every hunter main stats should focus on flat stats unlike swj that can use percentage main stats anyone here can help me on this?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
yep u can watch my video covering each hunters most important stats
@wannabe72972 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade woah i got a reply from you, this was awesome, ill try to find it in any of your uploaded vidoes, thanks for this
@gamingchampions99922 ай бұрын
U know what there's a dark element damage boost when u u use both dark weapon
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
yep I'm aware
@ShadowFightShowcase2 ай бұрын
But wont the bracelet affect the elemental damage??
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Doesn't work atm
@ShadowFightShowcase2 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade will the A4 scythe outperform a0 zeke then?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
@@ShadowFightShowcase oh yea for sure
@7ocine-x2 ай бұрын
What about the new light weapon is it good ?
@Yuhara-l8f2 ай бұрын
Don't know but if he gets it he will try it out
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Not enough copies yet sadly
@adamgevero98902 ай бұрын
Where's the west wind
@laqbeatz2 ай бұрын
DKLS should have done better without shadow steps… counter attack is a lot of its power… but we didn’t do any…
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Ya I was actually going to note that about counter attack but with a3 and up the counter doesn't matter as much since the effect still occurs
@tartarus9232 ай бұрын
Playing dkls without counter attack is like playing scythe without holding skill button or playing ww with no crit and no holding the button 😢
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
I gave it an increased score but let's be honest with the sword, it still needs a massive buff lol
@ibagaming94292 ай бұрын
I am sad tou forgot to record west wind runs.
@BeastBoy_XD2 ай бұрын
The problem is not making a new meta The problem is nerfing the same meta which was before Like we are going to step into light and dark meta and nerfing the old light character like cha hae😭😭😭 Because if they wanna change meta every month no problem 5 metas will exist and we will be in a cycle and will be using the old characters and weapons but nerfing the old characters and weapons every time the meta changes so that only the new ones can clear the meta will make the game a junk box filled with random things I think when jeju island raid comes it will be another water meta and they will nerf alicia like cha and goto ryuji will be the new powerful water character 😭😭
@monkeysage64472 ай бұрын
Scythe haters but hurt even after this video people saying the scythe damage is low. 🤨🤔 Right, I guess Payne just made up the numbers in this video.
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Still a super powerful weapon
@kimpouychea3042 ай бұрын
Wow never thought scythe is doing better than most weapon I always thought moon was the better dps
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
Moon is the better of the 2 buffing weapons and debuffing but it's not meant for raw dps like scythe
@kimpouychea3042 ай бұрын
So scythe and plum better or with moon ?
@JINX-k2s2 ай бұрын
Where di west wind go?
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
It's there but I wanted to test all SSR
@shavan_senpai2 ай бұрын
Why don't try all SR weapons..conz some of them gonna be SSR soon
@PayneBlade2 ай бұрын
they seemed to have scrapped that idea from what it looks like