PB101: L04 - How Sections & Containers Work

[@Gearyco]

Another disadvantage of the min-height white space method (Method #2) that I forgot to mention is that if you need to add more content to the section, you need to continually adjust the min-height value if you want to keep the same amount of white space. The padding method (Method #1) does not have this issue.

[@James_m7]

But wouldn't there also be an issue with method #1 (with the 240px on the top) when you're on mobile... for example if you set the top padding to 400px+, wouldn't that be too much when viewing on the phone?

[@Gearyco]

clamp = fluid responsive padding. Also, it's easier to adjust padding at a breakpoint once than to constantly adjust spacing based on how much content there is or isn't inside a section@@James_m7

[@chillydoog]

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[@Gearyco]

Welcome aboard!

[@AdrianSalvaggio]

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[@Gearyco]

Thank you!

[@kakenetit2]

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[@Gearyco]

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this is better then many paid courses It really gave me the concepts and made my base I am just loving it and also making notes while doing it Thank Kevin Geary.

[@michailgiannopoulos5274]

Top tier content that everyone claiming they are web developers, must see. Thank you for Kevin for all these lessons!

[@forsterarts]

The best teacher by far. I don't do this full time, but if I have an issue he is the maestro. He even organizes the lessons logically. When I can get the time to break free, I am going to do every single lesson from beginning to end.

[@irvingfreedman9221]

Thanks a ton, Kevin. I'm an amateur who does websites for family and fun. Today's video solved a few problems that I had. Look forward to the next vid.

[@lh-vt7su]

Just watched this class for the third time and rebuilt every example, just to improve learning. Thanks so much for this tutorial!

[@rayollll]

I really appreciate the way you've moved away from the Builder specific tips of your previous oxygen builder videos and are now teaching the underlying structure of web development. What a great course! Thank you.

[@rockyblumble]

Thank you for this course, I'm a beginner web designer and this feels like I'm getting all the secret cheat codes

[@gojiyaravi2]

😊 I completed this video now. 😍 It's very good to know that how Kevin tries to provide every information we'll need in building a website. Like the comment he added for min height and padding, and the image no repeat thing.

[@James_m7]

This is very helpful...you're a great teacher!! 🙏

[@Gearyco]

Glad it was helpful!

[@julio7410]

It's so important to learn these basics. Thank you so much! I look forward to the next lessons.

[@HayleyHagen]

Thank you Kevin - your teaching style and gracious sharing of knowledge is priceless!

[@quickend01]

Like always, that was fantastic Kevin. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your work and look forward to the next one in this series. It would also be great to see the magic at work as you arrange and manipulate Sections, Divs, Containers, and blocks, as you build different FRAMES for Brick with AUTO-CSS. Thanks Again!

[@Gearyco]

Thank you very much!

[@jeremya3037]

Thank you for taking the time to create all of these incredible resources...and for free too! I honestly look forward to watching your videos when I have a chance. Please keep it up.

[@Gearyco]

You are so welcome!

[@GavinDavidson]

Thank you. I learnt some valuable concepts here.

[@kareem2928]

Another killer tutorial, to "PB101". Thx Kevin... Looking forward to the next.

[@eucalyptech]

Back to the basics but very interesting, thank you Kevin !

[@felixrivera2691]

Great Lesson, Keven. I think I should refer to you as Sensei Geary. I thank you for all you are doing!

[@buntuscainte4987]

Great video. Learned loads about the importance of sections and containers for good design. Thanks 👍

[@mohdom6]

I used an FSE plugin called stackable; it put the gutter in the (inner column), aka container inside the section; it always made inconsistencies even between their own blocks, and it was painful to fix. Sometimes it wouldn't go away with CSS, and I delivered websites with this kind of issue. Thanks for highlighting this!

[@Gearyco]

Yep!

[@kevinholloman]

As someone new to Bricks, but somewhat familar with design - your videos are incredible, man! Just finished my first Bricks website for a client, and I'm happy to see I only did a couple of chump moves. 😆

[@Gearyco]

Nice 🔥🔥

[@ALIMAHMA]

Is it possible to give more than one like on a video? man, you are gold

[@janekpraca2603]

Great course! I am using Greenshift, which now has as many as two section blocks. I think they might have been inspired by your videos.

[@Gearyco]

I have been in touch with their dev team. Will be taking a much closer look over the coming months.

[@bonhomie.studio]

While I have a pretty good grasp on these concepts, I learned a few important things. Thanks for being methodical and thorough with your teachings.

[@Gearyco]

Glad it was helpful!

[@markusrichterfotografie7484]

Learning is really fun here! Excellent tutorial, many food for thought and best practices. Tank you!

[@Gearyco]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@genethompson9154]

Another excellent tutorial... Thank you

[@nelsonlim1389]

👌I got another skills to learn. Thank you!

[@tjveach]

another great job Kevin, thanks

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[@gojiyaravi2]

Another great Tutorial, Kevin 👌🏻😊!

[@ukukudu]

Good stuff 👍🏻

[@skjelstad777]

Thank you for this course ❤❤❤

[@Gearyco]

It's my pleasure

[@rauljauregi6615]

Great content! Congrats and thank you!

[@mikt]

Thanks for the great content! One question: Are me meant to set the section padding within "Element - Sektion" as you, in IC always talked about setting only the "Element - Container" - unless i missed something :) (oh and it makes total sense to set it here i guess)

[@techgal2010]

I broke one bad habit. I quit wasting my time watching any other web design videos. You should have called them, "Foundations for Bricks." LOL Keep up the good work. ;)

[@UjwalKumar-online]

Hi Kevin, if we are not adding margins or using overlap on sections. How can we achieve all those shape dividers which are very common in web design? Thank you so much for these videos. I am really grateful to learn from you.

[@Gearyco]

Still can achieve all kinds of overlaps. Many different ways. Search my channel for overlap.

[@KshitijShah89]

Loved that you covered min height, how about using max height so that on mobile Images don't make your sections absolutely ginormous?

[@Gearyco]

We will, but that shouldn’t be too much of a problem in any case. But yes max height will get covered.

[@RaphaelGolin]

14:00 Hey Kevin, why it is better to apply margin in the section for gutter instead of just usind the max-width to the container? I mean, the container already has a max-width of 1366px for desktop, it couldnt have like max-width: 85% for mobile?

[@Gearyco]

Because there are times you want elements outside of a container but still not touching the edge of the screen.

[@marcusraven8437]

Nice tutorial. Looking forward to seeing your best practices on background images (html vs. css). Can I assume that the prebuilt Frames are using css?

[@Gearyco]

Frames use HTML background images for most images because it has more advantages and fewer disadvantages.

[@christosdaglis1163]

Perfect video! The only hiccup that I've noticed is that Container inheritance doesn't ever work on Bricks. If I apply a color to a Container, the elements inside of it do not inherit that color like they do in Webflow for example.

[@Gearyco]

They do, you probably have a global style rule in place somewhere that’s overriding the attempt. If you share a link i can help.

[@brentwilson5]

Quick question for clarification - are you adding the additional hero padding (240px top and bottom) to the section or the container?

[@Gearyco]

Section

[@koperkuba]

Another great lesson from guru;) BTW alreaty bought ACSS and Frames and started learning:)

[@Gearyco]

Enjoy!

[@rickdugmore]

Stupendous

[@VijayKumarIM]

can't wait to join the session...

[@Gearyco]

I appreciate you! This is the energy we need!

[@glhutchman]

Hi Kevin, GREAT lesson! So...since negative margins on sections are not good, what would be the best way to have the Hero BG up under a transparent Header (With logo and NAV)?

[@Gearyco]

Transparent headers should be position absolute. Positioning will be covered in a future lesson.

[@John.Rearden]

These PB101 lessons are gold. You should consider and I wish you could take a swing at Elementor at every one of these lessons, and embarrass the hell out of Elementor, that they choose to course correct, or else start bleeding customers to Bricks, Webflow and the like.

[@Gearyco]

As much as I dislike Elementor, I don't want to pick on one specific builder too much. There are others that are equally as bad. And at some point, we have to focus on using/celebrating the builders that do things right.

[@Gearyco]

I do have a video planned that deep dives into the shit show that is Elementor, though. It's not for this course, but it'll be on the channel.

[@John.Rearden]

@@Gearyco What I meant was that in your PB101 comparison, Elementor must always be included as a player by default in all PB101 lessons, just like Webflow and Bricks, so Elementor users, which there are a lot of them, get to know how their page builder fares in comparison to these professional page builders. In some areas, Elementor might do well, and not so much in others, and in a platform-neutral lesson like PB101, all major players get a spotlight. Major players are Webflow, Elementor and a new contender, Bricks, and occasionally some builders get a spotlight if they do things better or worse, like Oxygen, Generate Blocks, Cwicly, Divi, and the like, but major players always get a spotlight. To further illustrate the point, I, as an Elementor user felt left out in this video, as I didn't know how my page builder fared in this important lesson and comparison. Food for thought. Cheers.

[@YasienSarlie]

Thanks Kevin! These lessons are valuable. Just glad I don't apply any jailable practices 😂

[@DanielGruber-g5j]

Hi Kevin, I came to the question if it's possible to center a container within a section because when I tried to align the axes of the container, nothing changed. Is this an issue of positioning or is this simply not possible?

[@Gearyco]

Yes it’s definitely possible

[@DanielGruber-g5j]

@@Gearyco alright, so it's an issue of positioning?

[@Nielzsche]

Around @39:05 you also give the buttons a row gab, why is that? There is only one row with 2 columns.. Is that just best practice? I've seen you do it in the video before this one as well.

[@Gearyco]

I'm not really sure what you're referring to. The buttons have to be in a row to be side by side. Since it's flexbox, there aren't actually any columns. Columns don't exist in Flexbox.

[@doudmine]

Please, cry for the ones who haven't found this course yet!

[@webgeneral]

Just found it, now I'm changing divs into sections...

[@praveensharma5962]

Wonderful.....👏

[@klokkerholm1993]

Best source for improvering accesabilty skills in webdevelopment ? 🙂

[@Gearyco]

We're going to talk about accessibility in this course. But there are many good resources. I don't know of one cohesive resource, though.

[@dh_investing]

Is there a clean way to implement a figma design into bricks, or should I build it from scratch in bricks?

[@Gearyco]

You have to build it

[@dh_investing]

@@Gearyco Thanks, for your advice an great videos!

[@TakuapaFriends]

Bringing a solide foundation to a website should be a strong suit. A lot of Wordpress solutions tinker that for "fast" eye candy with maybe a nightmare coming later when the site should grow or change.

[@chr_aikicom]

what do you do with sections when you have a main column with content and a second one with suggestions or menu? 1 section containing 2 sections?

[@Gearyco]

No, you wrap the secondary column in a tag like “aside” or similar.

[@simonkerridge]

As always, fantastic useful information that we should all be grateful for. Learning about the CSS columns alone justified watching this video, though I appreciate all the other learning too! Loving this series of videos. Thanks you, Kevin. 🫡

[@simonkerridge]

Strange thing is, I tried to place this comment on the previous video (L03)! Not sure how it ended up on this video. 🤦‍♂️ Sure this one is mega too. 🤣

[@charliesasser]

In the hero example at the end of this session, since the block containing the two buttons is a child of the container, why don't the button text labels turn white? Or if you go to the block level and you change the text color to white text it does not change the button children's text colors to white?

[@Gearyco]

Elements won’t inherit styling from their parent if they’re already getting styling from somewhere else. The buttons have default styling already, so they won’t inherit the font color.

[@charliesasser]

​@@Gearyco I think I get it. When I look at the "default" button class .bricks-button the style is set to "primary" which sets the color to var(--bricks-text-dark) . Is that correct? I have a lot more to learn. Thanks😀

[@curtismorrow4537]

oh wait, let me just say thank you, thank you, thank you

[@basilbabaa1628]

Perhaps premature, but for YOUR best practices for page hero backgrounds... min-height - rem or vh? AND/OR Frames and ACSS?

[@Gearyco]

Are you using a real image or css background-image?

[@basilbabaa1628]

@@Gearyco real image for now.

[@Gearyco]

I would position the image absolute with 100% width and height so that it's always the same height as the container it's in, but then again that's not the best method for every scenario. Context matters a bit as well.

[@basilbabaa1628]

@@Gearyco I apologize I didn't do a good job of wording my question. I was more interested in what units you prefer for the min-height on a hero section which contains a background image... whether rem or vh or perhaps even some css calcs?

[@Gearyco]

​@@basilbabaa1628 I rarely use min-height for sections. Normally I use extra top and bottom padding to control the white space. The height is whatever it ends up being. That's not in all cases, but most cases.

[@PswACC]

Oxygen Builder does not include a Margins option in their sections. I really like how Bricks stays on the same panel I am on when I switch elements.

[@Gearyco]

Yes, very helpful.

[@filmgenius2]

Do you have a video that explains how to make a Hero with a full-width nestable slider?

[@Gearyco]

Sliders aren’t great for UX. I tend to avoid them. But I can do a tutorial on it at some point.

[@filmgenius2]

Thank you! I'll be on the look out. How can a hero section with a transparent header be created without using margins, even though margins cannot be used with sections? Despite the fact that tutorials on KZbin suggest doing so, is there an alternative method that can be used to achieve this effect?

[@Gearyco]

@@filmgenius2 By targeting the container of the first section on the page and adding margin to that container.

[@RobCooper]

30:00 Ah ha! Controls don't work because they're locked with no room to breathe. I taught css in 2001 through 2003 and im now learning css again. I switched to SEO in 2004 and never kept up my skills.

[@henrikhovstadius8149]

How does Brakedance handle this?

[@Gearyco]

Same as oxygen

[@Testfortest142]

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[@gojiyaravi2]

29:40 Next time, spelling mistakes won't be allowed no matter it's free 👮🏻‍♂️. E.G. Seconds instead of Sections 😜.

[@Gearyco]

I did 100 pushups as punishment.

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"You get what you pay for since it's free". That's not true. We're getting a TON of value, for free. Thanks so much for that. Actually, I've just joined your inner circle. Of course, I expect to learn a lot from that and get a lot of value there, but it's also my way to thank you (and pay you) for creating this kind of great content.

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[@ted-e-baer]

Great Video, Kevin. @kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWbdnoWbhbOBZqM you mentioned there are better ways to create a "stripe effect". It appears to me I see in your builder there are faint grey borders at the top and bottom of your sections. Can you tell me how you achieved that, was it done in your theme styles? I would like to "stripe" my sections with 1px of a faint color as you appear to have. Please advise how you would recommend doing that, if you could. I think the question is relatable to this fantastic tutorial. Hope you have the time, thank you in advance. 👍

[@Gearyco]

Yes i just targeted the section elements (except the last one) with css to add a border to the bottom of them. It's just for the purposes of these tutorials, but if it's something you want to do on a normal website it's pretty easy ... section:not(:last-of-type) {border-bottom: 1px solid #eee;}

[@ted-e-baer]

@@Gearyco Thank you, Kevin. This did the trick 👍. I figured since you're adding this amazing content for free, I would ask the question here instead of the inner circle... so that the KZbin algorithm gets fed and your channel gets the content shown to more people. Thank you for what you are doing. Continued success, Kevin!

[@ham2956]

Glad you now realize and have said oxygens quality of life of handling of sections and containers is flawed and not convenient. It was a pain to build sections in oxygen the same way as webflow, extra things. But felt better about it.

[@Rollclick]

I know you probably don't like this, but instead of making an image full-width, can I do the same with a video that plays on scroll?

[@Gearyco]

Yes but it’s typically not great for UX.