“Security Is An Illusion” Ethical Hacker Exposes Child Predators & Tools To Protect Against Hackers

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Ryan Montgomery, a renowned ethical hacker known for his expertise in cybersecurity and passion for child safety.
Montgomery, who has been at the forefront of exposing online predators, shares insights into his journey as a hacker, his motivations for taking down dangerous websites, and the alarming vulnerabilities in today’s digital world.
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[@0dayCTF]

I really appreciate you having me on the show. Next time, I’ll pull out even more gadgets. Thank you for the kind words everyone 🙏🚀

[@evasquez357]

Great work....I'm taking classes now trying to be like you one day

[@zzzzzzl33t]

Doing the Lord’s work. Keep it up.

[@ALLkatrazX]

Thank you for your work.

[@JessicaHuey]

THANKS for all that you do! Upcoming generations will benefit from your courage.

[@Olderwiser77]

Evil prosper's ONLY when good men do nothing. Thank you for your courage in fighting for God's children! May God protect, bless and empower you! 🙏💪 I also saw you on the Sean Ryan show 👊

[@SinskariBoi3366three]

As a database specialist, I acknowledge that while perfect security might be an illusion, ethical hackers like Ryan and many orhers are crucial in identifying vulnerabilities and enhancing defenses, making data protection effective. We need more ethical hackers in this modern era and youths should be encouraged for this domain.

[@CodeNameV13]

Even ethical hackers like Ryan have to break certain cyber security laws to catch online predators. Scam baiters can bring down an entire call centre using a flooder to overload servers or will hide malware in a file that a scammer might copy during a reverse connection because they think it contains important credentials. If they are stupid enough to open the file, they just turned the pc or laptop into a brick.

[@maxburdett-k4b]

the problem is it’s somewhat risky to encourage ethical hackers because there’s always a chance someone becomes an ethical hacker but realises the advantages at their fingertips if they were to become… let’s say a little more unethical.

[@PatriotMamaCta]

The US government is complicit in child trafficking and it’s sick. Men like Ryan taking matters into his own hands and trying to save these children are hero’s. These adults are sick and need to be held to account. Whatever that may be. There’s NO excuse for this behavior

[@glendawente7317]

How many thousands of missing children that have come across our border. Probably the majority of the little souls are forced into sex crimes.

[@fafafohigh69]

Government? We pay police to handle crime

[@ChrisJackson-js8rd]

victims and villains and heroes there are more things in heaven and earth of course abusing children (and indeed people generally) is wrong no one ever said it wasn't there's NO excuse for being a moron

[@pocketgrim4942]

Bc their bosses are apart of it

[@Quepasowey]

Finally someone who says the truth, they started it, they are the largest at this area, not only CT, but in the Drug area they are also the biggest. America is a J.O.K.E

[@janets6474]

THANK YOU for exposing this horrific evil that is eating our society alive.

[@SamanthaBaker8]

Actually, it’s one of the horrific evils that’s eating our society alive. Unfortunately…

[@Kube_Dog]

Minnect isn't THAT bad, y'all.

[@michaelr5606]

@@Kube_Dog😂😂😂

[@bendahl12]

PBD= Israel shills

[@TheMomseloc]

HF 1655

[@BartRunning]

I can listen to this guy all day. And he is a unique combination of crazy online skills, maybe even 1% of the world. Combined with the passion of doing the right thing with it. This dude has such a big brain and remembers so much. That’s why his stories can be a little chaotic. Because man, all these details and chronological unfolding. Thanks so much for having him on.

[@ChrisKane-ml3em]

This guy is hero idk how he sleeps at night knowing what he knows

[@brentmichael]

Heroin?

[@blakewells5037]

😆

[@meaversand]

how do you sleep knowing that this happens for ages, and more highlighted than any of this is happening in our churches ...shame on you still going to church if you do

[@billyasher5588]

@@meaversanddon’t blame every church I don’t know any of the percentages but I promise 99% of them condemn it not condone it. There is a special place in hell for those ppl

[@Mint-pk8bj]

@@meaversand Such a horrible, ret4rded take. By your logic we should pull all our kids out of school because there is a lot more of this happening in schools than there is in Church. Shame on you for going to school. Shame on you for paying property tax that funds these schools. Shame on you for wanting kids to go to school. Idiot.

[@wendypoohbear6527]

My son didnt get a phone until he was almost 14 yrs old. VPN equipped and his email was under my email account so i had access to everything he did. Now, he's 20 and just got his own email last year. It's like he had traing wheels or bumper guards until he learned dangers. It helped many times because kids forget.

[@scotthill1600]

Here’s a piece of advice that I got as a teen & in my mid 20’s from my parents, that I still remember. “Pretend everything you do online will be front page news one day” you operate like that & you don’t really run into many problems

[@wendypoohbear6527]

@@scotthill1600 thats really good. I passed that along.

[@Papapannekoek]

​@@了了了😂 right

[@echo3six]

YES! Ryan on the ShawnRyan podcast was outstanding. PBD is killing it lately with the guest choices! Keep it up!

[@jon55gdl]

Kkyuaua

[@mcaleer007]

I am a huge fan and supporter of everything Ryan does and will do. The man is a reason why evil will always be challenged. Not to mention that at 31 his accomplished so many positive things. I am 35, I can definitely learn from him. Good job Ryan, keep up the good work brother and thank you Pat for having him on!

[@peterpan6222]

That cable is wild. I can see companies copying that tech and sending them out with new devices, just to get intel on customers for nefarious reasons. I'm keeping my old charging cables pristine now. Thanks for the heads up.

[@osvaldoandycalderin2136]

He was awesome on the Shawn Ryan Show, you should bring on Shawn Ryan

[@howlingwaters2741]

Yeah, Hasn't PBD been on SRS or am I dreaming? When PBD says - twice - "He's very good at what he does." It sounds like there's some competition between. 🤔

[@EdBender]

"There ain't no hiding place From the father of creation." Bob Marley

[@alexbain87]

This is one of the most captivating episodes I’ve seen. I mean it grabs your attention in 30 seconds. Thank you PBD for this amazing podcast.

[@jppontet7616]

This guy is a hero. I was brought to tears during the live chat part. Please keep up the fight. As a father of two daughters, this was so scary.

[@Olderwiser77]

Love this guy! He is a warrior for the good!! God protect bless and empower him.

[@lanceharvie6933]

Glad we have people like this in the world fighting this evil.

[@nrayc]

This interview is mind boggling. WoW 😟

[@nicho9761]

Loving this interview thank you sir

[@Grimfest14]

PBD looking at that Cable, going threw the history in his head of everyone that offered him to use their charging cable LOL.

[@jum5238]

Yeah, you need to charge at an airport? Use a USB condom. Charge only. Buy one, put it in your carryon luggage, or your pocket. You don't trust ANY cable or connection, because that's where malicious people will put them - airports or public places like high end hotel lobbies, etc. Also, be VERY careful about the wireless networks you're on in those places too.

[@shabadooshabadoo4918]

The scary thing is that you don't need to be a hacker to do these types of exploits anymore. Any 13 year old can go online and download them. Or anyone with money can buy them off the shelf. Even if you are confronted with a situation where coding would help, then you can just ask AI to do it.

[@revbobp]

PBD please stop clicking that pen

[@carolinemerkel1690]

Wow! Even more horrific stories of injustice of pedo-files. I’m glad there are good guys out there doing their part! Thank you!

[@nagaland5]

The only podcast I've listen that is 2 hours long. interesting!!

[@AlbertAltman]

Security is a theater, not an illusion 😂

[@user-xp3vd9ux5t]

Thank you for sharing insightful thoughts and information for a secure future for all. Appreciate the young man, Ryan. A gifted young man who is blessed to turn things 360' for positive vibes...🙏

[@cdfatlanta9841]

So very impressed with Ryan's humility! Good guy!

[@barry_dalive]

You’re a super decent person to give so much of your self and expertise into what’s clearly a critical US problem. Keep up the amazing effort

[@TheTRADMOM]

See… I’m a concerned parent about Roblox!! Exactly why I got interested in his work!

[@MacWallaceArbitrationService]

Same. Roblox is like a drug to kids.

[@dhn2549]

Be VERY CAREFUL with roblox and specifically video posting sites similar to KZbin. Looking up videos for robox videos on YT, tiktok, twitch, any of them really.. Or Disney etc!!! ANY cartoons looked up video sites can almost be guaranteed to eventually run into video posted showing explicit content. Directed at children, parents would have no idea unless told about it by the kids watching it or you happen to see it yourself. Innocent titles of the videos dont always equal innocent material in the videos! Problem is this: Capitalism exists. What does it want? The most money saved/earned at the most timely, least expense. Yes? Ok. So there are millions, probably billions of videos on sites like KZbin etc.. Who monitors that? On twitch, tik Tok, KZbin, etc? Eventually, a human gets to it and flags it for content, removes it completely, or let's it stay online if it is legit, and is safe for a kid to watch. Problem is, kids will search for videos of "Disney characters" or whatever other thing, and there isn't enough time or workers to get to every one in a timely manner and remove it. They can and DO sometimes slip through the cracks and some have content that is very adult mature content that can be ran into by kids. Completely by accident on their part, but very disgustingly intentional on the part of sick f**king people that post that evil crap, before the people/workers combing through the videos can flag it/remove it! So be very careful when it comes to these types of things. Just a piece of advice.

[@TheTRADMOM]

@@MacWallaceArbitrationService its been really really bad with hacking spamming within the last maybe 6 months or maybe that’s when I realized. It’s truly changing the brain chemistry.

[@LeoLang]

Lucky for him and US all, that this guy has a positive mental character! What a lifetime story!

[@ifonlylm]

Not to mention all the schools posting students pics on their Facebook profiles. And parents are okay with it, even tagging themselves in the photos.

[@craighebling1116]

You both are awesome, great work as always PBD.

[@Nick-cn2fb]

Whoever is clicking the mouse the entire interview do us a favor next time and mute your mic. Otherwise awesome show as always

[@kingofthestew1198]

We need a hacker podcast

[@Esquinawatusi]

Love, love, LOVE this guest!!!

[@lolokaymeg]

I had a close friend who hacked our school website in 9th grade. i thought it was the coolest thing ever. Nothing comparable to this story.. just reminded me of my old friend. 😂😢

[@jpjmk]

561PC doing the Lord’s work

[@Murfdiba]

Real Life Mr Robot

[@EmperorMingg]

45:46 this reminds me of the good old WEP days with Backtrack r5 and Kali. Fun times!

[@JustinAllen-p1u]

Thanks Ryan and God bless you for all you are doing to give others awareness to this atrocity

[@cicciocosta4149]

Need to make a movie of this Dude. Mr robot on steroids. Or a series better

[@rindawech6316]

Wow. What an eye opening conversation!!

[@roxvic.]

Ryan, what an awesome genius human you are. Your contribution to making the world a better safe place is commendable to say the least. Thanks for sharing your stories and expertise. 👏👏👏

[@lizashley4209]

Loved this! He’s the best!!!

[@B12478]

I've seen him on Shawn Ryan show, smart as hell

[@murphy6767]

Excellent podcast. I wouldn’t want to get on that dude‘s bad side for sure. He seems like a very passionate person about his job and his message. ✊🏻

[@jimcombatvet8122]

“Security Is An Illusion” .... So is Voting.

[@liennguyen3825]

Indeed😢

[@francestaylor9156]

But at least make them show you the cheat eh? Expose the Truth of the facade instead of being blackpilled.

[@BunnysBun-k3u]

Great episode, I wish everyone was awakened. Love Ryan❤

[@karenrogg6066]

Great interview with Ryan!!! He's a gem!

[@brandonbaker6629]

i'm not very good with tech, but because of silicon valley(the tv show) I understood alot of what this guy said about the pinapple.

[@BeMa-e2z]

Love this interview!!!

[@dogstar5572]

This is a Netflix show. What a fascinating dude.

[@mightyzane5400]

Greetings from South Florida

[@technofeeling2462]

He is a modern Superhero. One of the more interesting podcasts i listened to in the last months

[@JodiSamurai]

Revenge of the Nerds..

[@megansummersides4255]

Nerds are my favourite people😎

[@gummybearbastard]

Patrick clicking that pen into the mic makes me wish my tinitus was worse

[@bobbyrockets7566]

I laughed at your comment for way to long. Thanks stranger. 😅

[@shreditup5132]

You should look into someone named Thor. He was/is a hacker,coder for twitch and more. Might be interesting

[@BeMa-e2z]

Make sure you NEVER Give Them a phone, laptop or iPad etc!!!! Until they're off to college

[@Daggz90]

I did Ketamine at a rave one time. It was the one and only time I ever did that. It wasn't fun, except for when I thought I was falling down a step and yelled out for my friend to save me and everyone stopped and glanced over at the madman who thought he was falling to his demise from a two-step stair 😅

[@iespinosa31]

When money was mentioned, the host awareness was @ 1000%

[@johnconelly9139]

👀👀😂

[@SlimReaper006]

I lived that halfway rehab life jumping around using my insurance as a debit card basically. You literally get stuck in it. 2 years I was in a cycle. The Rehabs would even medicate you up so much on suboxone and k pins. You don’t even kno wat day it is. They double charge your insurance. Charge them 5 grand for a urine. That shit is sick. There are good places out there. Brc is def a good one. Crazy he is talking about this on pbd

[@NeverForget1776]

Lets be real about this. It could be 10's of thousands of men and that is still a fraction of men as a whole. Doesn't mean we don't deal with this but "loose hope in humanity" is a leap based on these numbers.

[@ItzMe_JustJenn]

THATS SOOOO CRAZY!!! I REMEMBER GODS BASEMENT!!!! (Not that its the only takeaway 😂 😂)! I swear RAVES were "THE" thing back in the 90s - early 2000s!!! From GB to the DC Armory - wow, the memories just flooded back to me like crazy 😭

[@Matrix_Diverted]

Ladies and gentlemen, God bless this mans soul with his code he abides by. The flip side of this is that while he giving people awareness he is simultaneously educating and/or influencing those who hae nefarious tendencies. This man is a double edged blade. God bless . Ps Fvck anyone who preys on children.

[@Charlie-ii7eu]

One of the most scariest podcasts by far wow!!!!!

[@Jonny-fj6pm]

So this is the guy that flooded my AOL email 😂😂😂back in high school 😂😂

[@zachhyatt6351]

This man should be leading a task force.

[@claudevoltaire4137]

Patrick is an excellent interviewer. It would be great if he could interview 50 Cent, also known as Curtis Jackson.

[@Itzonlygeo]

Thank you so much for this video, I really learned a ton from you guys 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Johnny2Feathers]

Good on him for giving up the drugs and alcohol !

[@vega21]

Ryan is a gem.

[@dorothys8893]

Ryan is so amazing this was an amazing interview

[@michellearroyo816]

Thank you so very much for saving our children may god keep you safe so you can continue to help gods children I hope you see this and all the other amazing comments we need more people like you in the world nothing more heroic and meaningful than what your doing this is the most important thing you can ever do I’m speechless THANK YOU 🙏 ❤

[@justinslife727]

PBD low key scared during this interview 😂

[@JameyKolka]

How many times did everyone say ‘pause’ in their head every time penetration test was mentioned

[@NaNasBarrio]

Zero day is who he is he is mr.robot😂 loved this episode❤

[@InfoArtistJK]

Wasn't the Project Veritas interim there TO SHUT DOWN good projects like the one mentioned in the video?

[@churblefurbles]

Its obvious why nothing is done, the flow of untraceable people must continue for some.

[@TheFibonacciFox]

I bet everyone’s gonna think twice about using those handy mall recharging stations now huh

[@tempioxavo]

Heck yeah I love Ryan you can see he Is a genuine guy from a mile away

[@Romans1118]

The reason Ryan could not answer some of your questions is b/c he is so incredibly honest with a good heart.I love him, we need more real men like him.

[@Billy0123]

I believe we don’t appreciate the fact that this guy isn’t a supervillain

[@NinjaRunningWild]

See Kevin Mitnick.

[@DissTrackTed]

See Bill Gates.

[@DoomCatcher]

@@NinjaRunningWild Just watched a video on him due to this comment, wild story

[@andrewsmith8727]

the bad part is there are wayy more bad people who are better than him at his craft.

[@brennanmckissick6432]

@@andrewsmith8727I agree

[@rebeccacortoreal]

As a mother of 3 kids under 10 years old, this has got to be one of the most tactical advice I have heard on a PBD podcast. This guy is informative, powerful testimony and is an inspiration to the youth on how to use your skill set to make a life changing impact to our society !!

[@betha8021]

This could be one of the most important interviews PBD has ever done. Thank you

[@christinetuttle8975]

So far, it is by far. What could be more important than protecting our children, especially conisdering we have let it go on for so long. Even Oprah did a show on cidp back in the day and the one investigater she interviewed said back then it was like trying to stop Niagra with a spoon. Now we have the technology.

[@sortaforida718]

It's sad that KZbinrs are catching more child preds than the police are. I look at the police blotter in South Florida daily for years. They catch 1 maybe once a month if that. KZbinrs are catching them daily. The police rather focus on dealers because they can seize money. If they were allowed to seize money from C.P they would be arresting them all day long. Believe that!!!!!

[@lauras2196]

Agreed , really enjoyed the knowledge shared here , I learned alot as a new mom I can protect my family better ❤

[@Natty183]

​@@christinetuttle8975 Exactly. I think as the public what I've learned is we can help making exposing predators lucrative for those that are doing the work. It's hard content to watch, it takes some dedication but if every citizen in the US was watching at least one catch a predator type channel and supporting those who you prefer, we could start funneling enough resources into this that maybe we could start making a dent in the darkness we allow.

[@mruncletheredge]

6:36 One of the most important mindsets to have is to constantly keep asking "Why?".... The world truly gets more illuminated to you when you know WHY things happen or WHY people do what they do.... Always keep asking "Why?". If you keep asking "Why?", you will most certainly get to the truth of virtually anything.

[@alexpocasangre7437]

PBD getting ready to lock 50 hackers in a room for 30 days 😂

[@samm928]

50 is nothing .. We're talking about tens of millions of kids being trafficked into US with all the illegal immigration

[@anisingh5437]

Mr beast will be worried. What else is he hiding

[@Selah-od1ro]

This young man knows he would come face to face with the fbi, cia and others who protect Government officials involved in child trafficking .. .

[@Foolofatook889]

The sad part is they wouldn’t even make a dent 😕

[@samm928]

@@Foolofatook889 I just watched the movie Hacker ..

[@jaacosta83]

Ryan is a national treasure, he needs to be protected at all costs. Thanks PBD for having him on!

[@MJultraB]

Global treasure

[@jdkingsley6543]

so a state actor lmao.

[@Minzyck]

@@jdkingsley6543 bot

[@BigFootSize]

​@@jdkingsley6543no kid

[@robertmillen2967]

Like minds think alike - I just said the same thing

[@Viele411]

I watched this dude on Shawn Ryan’s KZbin channel and have been addicted to his interviews. Seeing him with PBD as a fan, and a dad, is awesome. I’m sharing this with a lot of my fellow parents to show them the importance of protecting your kids in this digital age. The internet is a great thing and a horrible thing. The future looks bright and it’s up to us to keep it that way.

[@19Willy67]

Rocked the SR show. Going to rock this one too

[@mostlynotworking4112]

@@19Willy67yup saw SR first. He was also on Jordan Harbinger. JRE next ?!

[@mrssclarkie5474]

Same! That's where I saw him. So impressed with what he is doing.

[@mary1412]

SAME!!!! That’s where I found him and then started following and watched all of his stuff!!!!

[@MrAnderson3]

These interviews are so much better without Adam and Vinny interrupting the guest Thanks for giving Ryan a platform too, modern day cyber Batman

[@pilarskifamily899]

I agree with you, though I sort of feel bad that it is that way.

[@TonySopranosBurner]

@@pilarskifamily899don’t feel bad lol it’s their own dumb fault they can’t shut their mouth when people are talking

[@breakznenta]

Adam is the worst

[@hbadge22]

They would be better without PBD saying the dumbest shit

[@IggyFireMist]

​@@hbadge22 you won't get any badges for that one. It's like listening to two siblings fighting in the backseat, constantly. One of these days they'll grow up.

[@kevinburnes3216]

Instead of hiring someone like let's say Chris Cuomo. Hire this guy and really make a difference PBD!

[@andresanchez948]

Pin this.

[@GodIsInHisHeaven]

hilarious but so on point

[@julian-gen]

CC is long gone....for some reason

[@GodIsInHisHeaven]

@@julian-gen what makes you say that? And for what reason is he gone?

[@brooksgorman3285]

Because he was Chris cuomo that's why he is gone , liar and bully , amongst many other faults.

[@stón_1]

Etichal Hacker here, very pleased to see that he represents us and explains what we do for a living ✌️

[@mattypuddingfingers6562]

That's awesome you do this but how do people make a living from ethical hacking or busting pedos. Also do you think child abuse is bigger on the dark web, smaller specific sites or mainstream sites? Keep doing what you're doing you guys are unrecognized heroes.

[@kel7635]

🙌🏾

[@lolo2north]

yoo lemme be part of the super hero team.

[@KUPUStheGreat]

God bless you sir.

[@flain283]

@@mattypuddingfingers6562 a lot of IT security vendors have Threat Intelligence departments that are used to discover what the bad guys are up to and to improve the security products. So that's one way to make a living doing it, the pay is quite high at the right vendors too.

[@lizasandoval597]

Every single parent needs to understand that cell phones should not be in the hands of children & preteens.

[@alanpedrick1562]

At the very least make sure Bark is properly installed and implemented! It infuriates me how many moms just I know who handed their preteen daughter a damn smartphone without the slightest controls or intent to monitor who they contact, what they see, or who can contact them!

[@Notyoubiz]

Because there are guys like them that are in power. Judges, lawyers, politicians.

[@JudyStone-c6o]

💯

[@Ryan-xq3kl]

like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?

[@Nychris_107]

Imagine how many of them are people of power. if you don’t believe this is hell we live in is really sad.

[@SIRLAVO4excellence]

Bingo

[@Philipasimpson]

Can we start by normalizing kids NOT being on the internet? In our community of friends, no one under 16-17 has a smart phone or goes online in anyway unmonitored... it's at least a starting point.

[@jessicad86542]

My son is turning 15 and still doesn’t have a phone. Might get him one soon. But I’m really trying to keep his innocence. He uses the excuse he can’t chat with his friends…. I respond. Have them come over or use my phone. I’ve seen for years how sexualizing everything has become the norm. The ads are with younger and younger models it’s disgusting. We need to expose this way more than this! How can we do it?

[@vikkyrozay]

THATS NOT FREEDOM! GO TO CHINA OR NORTH KOREA THEN

[@Philipasimpson]

@@jessicad86542 good for you... when you give your kid the internet you're not giving him access to the world, you're giving the world access to him.

[@andrzejklein7846]

@@jessicad86542 In Europe only muslim Turkey set their age of consent at 18yo xD Russia is 16 yo, most of Europe is 15-14years old and sometimes in some places it is 13 yo :D Ruminate on this one:D If you had a daughter in Germany of France she could legally date a 40yo man:)

[@scottashe984]

​@@jessicad86542There are apps for kids to chat on. They can only contact people that are on thier approved contacts list. It's not perfect but it is a reasonable compromise. "Just Talk Kids" for example of an app.

[@MykeRyder]

Im still half expecting Shawn Ryan to pop his head in the studio and say “ NO shit” 😂😂

[@jeremyb251]

Ryan: Nobody’s doing what we’re doing, there is zero competition. Pat: Let me ask you a question, what’s your competition like?

[@janosd4nuke]

It was a perfectly reasonable cornering question. Ryan just sidestepped it. Granted he previously explained what makes their penetration test higher quality than the industry standard "checkboxing" But just as a regular YT edutainment consumer I've seen channels with sponsors like Aura and Incogni. They do the digital footprint reduction in takedown filing to data-brokers and scanning if data-breaches impacted you. As a complete package Ryan's team might just be in a league of their own, but if anything Pat should've followed up with my examples so that Ryan further elaborates on the stratification of his industry.

[@ponyandpanda]

More of this, please, PBD! People need to know that the risks to children aren't just conspiracy theories.

[@raihamarsden08]

THIS IS SERIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT TOPIC TO DISCUSS. Thank you PBD and Ryan.

[@ameiram7071]

This guy is such a hero pursuing these predators. I did a 4 year government stint and worked in trafficking and the stories were horrific. I left and went back to healthcare because I couldn’t see it anymore. My alert is higher than anyone I know because of the stories I’ve seen. I agree that I have no sympathy for these sick humans

[@jum5238]

I almost went for a job in forensics with a state highway patrol unit. A person in my church who I talked to explained what I'd run into in that unit - and I turned it down. I have no desire to see it. I'd spoken with a contractor with the DHS who had a side gig tracking down predators who explained to me some of the things done to kids, and I was sick to my stomach. They also told me lots of political leaders are up to their eyeballs in this stuff. It just sickens me.

[@jumbo7165]

my best friends older sister is the decision maker in my area who removes kids from abusing parents, i sat there 1 night drinking with her at mate party, some of the stories she told me i waxs near in tears, and im not a big sympathey person at all, i said how do you motivate yourself to do this each day, just bit her lip and said if i dont do it what will happen to these children ? it must really take some doing to do that job each day.. being the one that has to remove the kids from the only people they know but its to protect them ..... my opion anyone that harms children need the same abuse dont to them.... jailing them is not helping them they get better protection in jail than normal inmates and i no as ive done jail when younbger and its why i hate paedophiles as ive seen they get looked after 10x more than regular inmates, fucking so wrong

[@minagica]

You're a hero too! The fact that you couldn't keep doing it doesn't make you not a hero! Thank you for your work and hope you can heal from the toll it has taken!

[@kitgenz1114]

Do you have any advice on what to say if someone has family or friends that don’t believe trafficking even exists?

[@MrEShive]

I did an 8 year career in the army and now work in healthcare IT. I agree with you, i know for a fact itd scar me after a few years.

[@texasoutlook60]

Pat the reason the government is not more serious about this epidemic is because people in high places are doing the same thing! Simple as that!!

[@jamespalmer4945]

Exactly! Americans don’t realize how rampant this problem is

[@mikko-of6cu]

Yep, a lot of powerful people are into kiddie stuff. That's why no one in government gives a shit about it. Billionaires and politicians are involved. Stuff goes all the way to the white house.

[@megansummersides4255]

💯

[@ValleyJeff84]

Our gov are the head honcho's in the sex trafficking industry. Buyers, sellers and they even get high on their own supply. Clinton Foundation. #pizzagate

[@Atrainswrld]

Sick fxcks

[@SuperTimoney]

His stories were fascinating! I love it when hosts let their guests talk with little to no interruption. We'll done PBD. Have this guy back for sure!

[@brap1980]

Ryan is one of the reasons i choose computer science when i decided to go back to school a few years ago. I am a recovering drug addict and criminal with years of expirence doing fraud and commitiing crimes as well as spending more rather than less of my time in prison. But by the grace of god, i survived my own worst enemy, self. Awesome show

[@luc00144]

You're a walking inspiration to many, honestly! Glad you overcame that giant obstacle

[@Madonnalitta1]

Nice, thanks for posting.

[@christinetuttle8975]

Godspeed!

[@soundsbitter]

I’ve been looking for something to get into would you recommend learning cyber security of if I have zero experience?

[@brap1980]

@@soundsbitter computer science and networking