Part 1: Iconic turntables (which one makes it to our listening room?)

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Pearl Acoustics

Жыл бұрын

Harley Lovegrove's guide to his all time top 10 iconic turntables. Why they were so important, and how they shaped our industry and listening experience. (Plus the one I choose for our listening room).
Interesting links:
Garrard:
garrardturntables.co.uk/
gramophonemuseum.com/garrard-universal-motor.html
Acoustic Research:
The Acoustic Research 'hammer' video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6PKfGOPgth9jq8
Thorens:
keithwright.ca/Thorens/Thorenspage.html
idler-drive.com/index.php/forum/les-platines-direct-drive/1892-thorens-initiateur-du-direct-drive-mystification
insheepsclothinghifi.com/thorens-td-160/
Lenco:
stereonomono.blogspot.com/search/label/LENCO
Lenco 'Heaven' (for spareparts and advice etc.): www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=1928.0
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:48 Garrard 301
04:55 Thorens TD-160
07:43 Acoustic Research XA
11:41 Lenco L75
13:42 Pioneer PL-12D
15:51 Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference
17:10 Technics SL-1200
19:17 Linn Sondek (LP-12)
23:30 Rega P3
25:55 Brinkmann Taurus
27:10 The big reveal
As always, if you would like to find out more about Pearl Acoustics and our Sibelius loudspeakers, please visit our website at www.pearlacoustics.com, or email us with your questions: enquiries@pearlacoustics.com.
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@smaarch1
@smaarch1 Жыл бұрын
Just great Harley and thank you. I look forward to the rest of this series. After owning several decks from the 1970's (yes we are probably the same age), and then a long absence from LP's and perhaps music in general, I recently put together a system thinking I would go all digital. It started just fine and enjoyable. When I was then presented with the opportunity to purchase a turntable, a Nottingham Analogue 294 Space. I find it remarkable for it's philosophy of design and execution. Both aspects being focused on simplicity. Of course the game of getting the digital side up to level with the analogue side begin immediately after, A new streamer directly hard wired to a modem, a new (and expensive) DAC from Bulgaria, of course new interconnects, and I have to say it has not yet been able to catch up. Although I have a theory about why, I'm simply not knowledgeable enough to explain to present it here. But i do know what I hear and I'm astonished by the sound of analogue. As if I never heard music before.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment and the mention of the Nottingham Analogue 294 Space, which I honestly didn't know! Enjoy the music.
@smaarch1
@smaarch1 Жыл бұрын
If you have the opportunity to listen to the Nottingham, I highly recommend it. Weighing 65 lbs, it relies on mass, and is completely black (noise wise). The motor is a small asynchronous AC motor with just enough power to maintain speed. The deck has to be started by hand, and then relies on inertia mostly, a sort of flywheel.
@smaarch1
@smaarch1 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesportrais3946 you're certainly entitled to your opinion - what you are not entitled to is a statement of absolute fact without ever hearing it. If you are in NYC you are welcome to hear my deck and system. From there you can draw your conclusion. Dribble or otherwise....We'll see.
@jamesportrais3946
@jamesportrais3946 Жыл бұрын
@@smaarch1 Thanks for the scold smaarch, I'm a frightful nut at best. Your comment alerted me to a sour pile of crap that frankly, I have no memory of writing - must be this keto thing...
@alanfenick1103
@alanfenick1103 Жыл бұрын
I would like to add a few more turntables! Pink Triangle, Ariston and Miracord! I was a distributor for Pink Triangle in the US in the 1980’s. The Miracord was an incredible changer! Ariston was beautifully made, great sounding turntable with the SME tonearm with a Denon 103C cartridge.
@DannerPlace
@DannerPlace Жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure to visit your civilized corner of the Internet.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's a pleasure to have you here.
@JeHaVe
@JeHaVe Жыл бұрын
I completely agree!
@SANDSCORCHER
@SANDSCORCHER 7 ай бұрын
Amen to that Dan 🥂👍🏻
@jos5067
@jos5067 Ай бұрын
I am missing a Denon turntable. They had fantastic direct drive turntables with the Denon DL103 MC cartridge. This cartridge from 1964 is still in production! But thanks, it’s a great 😊 list!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Ай бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for the tip on Denon
@luismantaras6460
@luismantaras6460 Жыл бұрын
Since my born language is Spanish, my pleasure is to understand every word you say. Clear pronunciation and right speaking speed! I have a Technics SL 2000.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Very kind. Enjoy your Technics
@srdjanstojanovic9289
@srdjanstojanovic9289 Жыл бұрын
Exactly the same with me, only my mother's tongue is Serbian. Also have a Technics, SL1210MK2, and do enjoy it.
@First-gd7ci
@First-gd7ci 2 ай бұрын
Nice! SL2000 was my first turntable back in the 70’s! Still have it!
@PetraKann
@PetraKann Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this series of presentations
@theurgy69
@theurgy69 Жыл бұрын
I love the range of turntables you introduced here from the simple AR-XA and P3, the entry level PL-12D and Garrard 301, the slightly higher end LP-12 and Brinkman to finally some very beautiful and more complicated turntables. Excellent list and great description of the history of turntables.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike. You're very kind
@MattBorchert
@MattBorchert Жыл бұрын
As always, I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and knowledge.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@TD402dd
@TD402dd 2 күн бұрын
I had the AR Turntable for several years, and it was designed for a Shure V-15 Type III. I just got tired of a completely manual turntable. It didn't even have a cueing device. However, the performance was the best of any turntable I've ever owned.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for sharing your experience
@flixtonman
@flixtonman Жыл бұрын
I am really glad you included the PL 12D .I have had one for years and I love it .
@iamrocketray
@iamrocketray Ай бұрын
@flixtonman Still got mine! I don't use it any more but I wouldn't get rid of it, too many memories associated with it.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w Жыл бұрын
Well done. We all expected to see a massive turntable weighing more and costing more than our daily driver. I am hooked. Looking forward to part 2.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mpw621
@mpw621 Жыл бұрын
I have a vintage Linn Lp-12 and sounds wonderful, love it.
@paulcgretired6245
@paulcgretired6245 Жыл бұрын
Myself as well. ditto!!
@Betterhifi
@Betterhifi 2 ай бұрын
The LP-12 was my standard for many years. You'll have to spend some real cash to better it!
@Bulletguy07
@Bulletguy07 17 күн бұрын
13:28 the Pioneer PL-12D was my choice of deck when buying my first stereo equipment in the early 70s. I was a married shift worker on low pay and used to spend hours thumbing the pages of hi-fi magazines looking at stuff I couldn't afford! From memory I think I paid around £12 for it from a local hi-fi shop. It really is a superb deck and today they are quite sought after by collectors.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 17 күн бұрын
Lovely backstory, thanks for sharing!
@Transit67F2
@Transit67F2 12 күн бұрын
you and me both, I think i actually subscribed to HiFi Answers at one stage. Shure 75ED and we have heaven
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 12 күн бұрын
@@Transit67F2 😉👍
@Bulletguy07
@Bulletguy07 12 күн бұрын
@@Transit67F2 Yes I forgot to mention that as I fitted exactly the same cartridge and stylus! I couldn't afford speakers at first so bought a set of Pioneer headphones. Still have them too so they are about 50 years old now!!
@Transit67F2
@Transit67F2 11 күн бұрын
@@Bulletguy07 I made my speakers from a kit :) something called Coral
@jensholm169
@jensholm169 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I like the very calm and relaxed mood. And a great walk down memory lane.. having owned Lenco L75, Pioneer pl12d, Thorens td160, and Technics sl 1300 - the automatic 1200. Thanks a lot 🙂
@TPQ1235
@TPQ1235 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this. I’m now going to my music room to listen to my Thorens TD 160 while I look forward to Part 2 of your three part series.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! (I am going to my listening to record Pt. 2! 😉
@Drackleyrva
@Drackleyrva Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and always very educational. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 🙏
@ianmedium
@ianmedium Жыл бұрын
Another wonderful and informative video, I am looking forward to the other episodes, thank you for taking the time to make them.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that is very kind!. Pt. 2 comes soon...
@firebladecymru
@firebladecymru 7 ай бұрын
Yes I was a student in the seventies and I bought a Pioneer PL12 D which I still use today. Great turntable and arm.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 7 ай бұрын
Now that was a good investment!
@Transit67F2
@Transit67F2 12 күн бұрын
Same except I sold it :(
@Atodaso
@Atodaso Жыл бұрын
A used Planar 3 (1998) was/is my first turntable. I have a RB300 tonearm and an AT150Sa cartridge - It's amazing :)
@frostycanada6404
@frostycanada6404 Жыл бұрын
Harley, thank you for sharing your passion for music, music reproduction and your love for audio gear. Enjoyable video as always. Regards, Brian
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! Much appreciated.
@paulshepherd-smith1875
@paulshepherd-smith1875 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I have at home the Linn LP12 and the Michell Orbe and enjoy them both. I was born in 1972 so your observation of it being a significant year wasn’t lost on me!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
:-) Glad you enjoyed it.
@boydsargeant7496
@boydsargeant7496 Жыл бұрын
You have both! Which do you prefer and why?
@paulshepherd-smith1875
@paulshepherd-smith1875 Жыл бұрын
@@boydsargeant7496 I had the LP12 originally as a 40th Birthday present to myself. It was secondhand and apart from an amazing Birdseye Maple plinth, it is in terms of space close to a fairly standard Malik level equivalent. It has made its way into my second system now where I have an Auralic Altair G2.1. I chose the G2.1 as I wanted to steam wirelessly due to cabling constraints as well as play back vinyl (the G2.1 has a phono stage) and use it primarily with headphones. The G2.1 has an excellent headphone amp. That left a gap in my main system (Devialet Expert 400, Sonus Faber Olympicia 3 speaker) and I always just loved the look of the Orbe so auditioned. The Orbe has a better arm and cartridge so it’s probably not a like for like comparison but the Orbe just sound more open and produces a bigger sound. Both great though and can’t imagine getting rid of either!
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs Жыл бұрын
The loudspeakers and the vinyl pickup are the most important pieces. Because changing sound from movement to electrics and back are the hard bits. The rest is from simple to trivial in comparison.
@avocadochoe
@avocadochoe Жыл бұрын
Very informative and well laid out! This is going to be one of those videos I'd forward to buddies looking to get deeper into learning about the turntable histories!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very kind!
@nigelbutters5769
@nigelbutters5769 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting video! I don't have a Thorens TD160 but I have a TD150 that I bought new in 1972 and has given me 50 years of continuous service. I recently refurbished it with a good polish and clean, new belt, acrylic arm board, new acrylic cover, new modified Rega arm and a re-veneer of the plinth. I have never considered replacing it with anything else and it will now outlive me. I'd say it was iconic 😀😍
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your appreciation. Indeed, you have a fine turntable that will last generations. definitely Iconic and ecological too.
@liboy9844
@liboy9844 Жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Is the Sondek LP12 just an ‘expensive copy’ of the Thorens TD150?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
@@liboy9844 no it’s not a copy of the Thorens but of the Ariston
@johnt8710
@johnt8710 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode. Thanks for taking the time to put these together.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome John. Thanks!
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Жыл бұрын
Wow your story telling really took me into the scene , Thank you for taking the time and sharing part of your Audio Journey
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi. You’re very welcome
@paulgadman6853
@paulgadman6853 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic show.Thanks all. So interesting and I was surprised rgat I'd heard of four of them! Your'e a great host Harley .Captivated me from start to finish.X
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@fredericfein8284
@fredericfein8284 Жыл бұрын
Very nice, the Lenco L75 gave me a big smile, as a student I had one and I was very proud of it 😊 it was sparkling beautiful an looked like it was double the price it costs. This was followed by a technics SL 150, which was a version with tone arm mounting plate of a SL 1500 direct drive. I had an SME 3009/ II Improved with fluid damper mounted on it. Then came a Transrotor AC which I bought with an SME 3009/ III arm but I changed this to my old version II for the better looks. I still use ist today and had to replace the belt last year, a real scandal…. It was running only 45 years ! 😎
@wookchang8852
@wookchang8852 Жыл бұрын
Great upload. Many thanks for tracing back my memory lane.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@csxlab
@csxlab 10 ай бұрын
I have an Technics SL-15 since 1984 and an SL-1210GR since this year. Wonderful
@frederikjacob1985
@frederikjacob1985 Жыл бұрын
My parents owned a Lenco l75. Was my first experience with a turntable. Later on bought 2 Technics SL 1200 mk2's. Because DJ. Now I own 4. 3 for the dj booth and one slightly modified for my hifi setup. In my hifi setup I only had and I only want Technics.
@acronus
@acronus Жыл бұрын
I bought a second hand P3 about 4 years ago. Absolutely no regrets, and I don't see much need to upgrade it any time soon.
@ianallen8305
@ianallen8305 2 ай бұрын
P6 is fantastic, don’t listen. 😂
@chrisbishop1534
@chrisbishop1534 Жыл бұрын
Brings back memories!! My pride and joy,lenco gl 75, with a shure cartridge!! Thanks
@ageispolis6960
@ageispolis6960 Жыл бұрын
Lovely video, very much looking forward to parts 2 and 3!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
@fossil9559
@fossil9559 Жыл бұрын
I came across this video yesterday, and I love your presentation I have since watched quite a few, you have a great way of explaining things, also I have a Rega RP6, so I was surprised when it was a Rega that came out on top. Looking forward to seeing parts 2 & 3
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks Adrian. Glad you are enjoying them. Pt.2 will come out in December 12
@flowntn1989
@flowntn1989 Жыл бұрын
Stumbled on by accident, and….. what a nostalgia trip. From my late teens the first “hi fi” I heard was my girlfriend uncle’s (301) which got me started. My very own starter was a TD-150, and then on. The LP12 (original) on the sideboard now in pristine condition but now ornamental (see below). Somewere along the way the LP12 was “borrowed” by my son, then Rega 3, Technics SL? (Parallel tracking) which I had till around 2009, when the LP12 was returned to me. Must be close on 1000 lps in our store room languishing, all classical save a few including Dark Side of the Moon. And then there was the rest of the varied other components from Quad 303, Stax headphones, Naim, ESL57, KEF “Daleks”(can’t remember the number), and even a pair of Leak mono valve amps refurbished by Leak themselves outside Leeds where we lived. Now……. A pair of Apple HomePods but all my listening is through Phonak P90 hearing aids 😥. The best? Naim, LP12 SME Ortofon MC, and magnificent stacked Quad ESL 57s 1975-1979. Look forward to your next instalment.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your wonderful contribution to this story. Funny how this passion of ours starts. Pt. Comes out tomorrow (12 December).
@boborman5537
@boborman5537 8 ай бұрын
I just love these talks, it brings sanity to my life.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 8 ай бұрын
That’s very nice to hear, thanks
@douggordon9225
@douggordon9225 29 күн бұрын
Love your presentation, articulation, style
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 28 күн бұрын
Thanks!!!
@perge_music
@perge_music Жыл бұрын
Nice presentation, always enjoy hearing about decks. I have a fairly high-end Linn Sondek that's evolved since I bought it back in '94, I love how it sounds. That said if I could have any deck it would be an SME model 60, that thing is a pure event in every aspect.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I considered the SME 60 but could not fit it in and decided for Brinkmann instead. It was a close call
@mgsee
@mgsee Жыл бұрын
My first turntable when I was a teenager was a Garrard - the SP25 Mk IV. Then as a student I also upgraded to the Pioneer PL12D/Shure M75EJ. After my student years, when I had more money, this was replaced with a Rega Planar 3/AR cartridge, followed by a Linn LP12/Linn Ittok/K9 setup. I now stream music from Qobuz via an Apple Mac mini and dream about going back to vinyl! C'est la vie : )
@VicenteSansaloni
@VicenteSansaloni Жыл бұрын
I have a Garrard SP25 MK IV now, and I enjoy it planning my vinyl record collection, but I still prefer the sound of my CD, SCAD and digital files. In my case, the good from using my vinyl, cassette tapes, Minidisc an any other physical media is the experience to do it, not the sound.
@mgsee
@mgsee Жыл бұрын
@@VicenteSansaloni if you were to upgrade the SP25 MK IV to something like an entry level Rega or Pro-Ject turntable you might find out why vinyl is considered to be more musical and engaging by a lot of folks who are into music rather than 'hi-fi' though... : )
@andredevries4987
@andredevries4987 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hartley. This is a very nice video. Wonderfull to hear the history of turntables. Gr André de vries.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very kind.
@geoffparkes
@geoffparkes Жыл бұрын
Great and informative video. I bought a PL12D back in 1978 and apart from changing the cartridge, stylus and headshell within a few months, all I ever changed were styli, belts and acrylic lid. I serviced it regularly and finally sold it in 2018. I replaced it with a higher end modern turntable but I really miss that wonderful Pioneer.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoff. There's no denying the relationship we build with machines that we appreciate.
@StudioPluche
@StudioPluche Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the PL-12 make the list. About ten years ago I was looking for a good turntable and one day I found a PL-12 in the garbage near my home. All it needed was some TLC and now it's paired with a Pioneer SX-424 I bought for ten bucks in a thrift store, and both play absolutely great!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I love about our hobby. One doesn’t need to spend a fortune to enjoy music!
@RUfromthe40s
@RUfromthe40s 7 ай бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics it´s true some say that i have an expensive system in my garage i ofered to buy to them(friends of mine) a 500€ system that they would spend more in a compact system and already bought three , the first was a turntable from technics fully automatic from 79 to 80 ,in grey with a good sounding but not powerfull amplifier also in grey and a tuner from the system in grey and with power meters on the slim integrated amplifier all 150€ , plus 120€ in a pair of sb-f3 also from technics and 150€ in a direct drive technics cassette deck restored (79 model)plus 90€ on a 91 restored high-end cd player from technics, 510€ ,it was a technics fan ,the first 3 components seemed to never been used ,those guys who only touch the stereo with gloves, other was a sansui from early 80´s 95€ ,a pair of mission speakers 761 at 4 ohms cost 70€ which sound fantastic and i have a pair ,only recentelly discovered they were built by Philips in Belgium ,i used to say to my friends that philips was one of the best sounding brands in the 70´s, a pioneer cd player 150€ and a minidisc deck denon for 100€, a PL-430 pioneer turntable for 70€ (83) 485€ .This are fully working systems bought in 2nd hand ,much better than a compact system from sony, we don´t have thrift stores in Portugal, we have some 2nd hand stores but normally it´s more expensive than buying new
@howardleopold9887
@howardleopold9887 Жыл бұрын
I have a Technics SL-1100A which I bought in early 1974 which predates the SL-1200. The SL1100A was claimed to be the first “integrated” (with tonearm) direct drive turntable in the world. I still use it.
@ThatMicro43Guy
@ThatMicro43Guy Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I also have the SL110 version of it with an SME3009/2 on it. They came out in 1971 and are a far superior deck to the SL1200
@AceTechHD
@AceTechHD 3 ай бұрын
@@ThatMicro43Guy SL-1100 is slightly better but also much bigger. Sl-1200 is better for those with limited space.
@chuckmaddison2924
@chuckmaddison2924 Жыл бұрын
I'm very happy you included the Garrard. We have had Garrard for many years. From a cheap basic in a Dansette player to my current player a Zero 100 which I bought new in 1973. I know the Zero has known issues. A true classic in terms of being unique but not the best of kind. I would love to hear you talk about cables a very touchy subject.
@markstewart1807
@markstewart1807 Ай бұрын
Brilliantly presented and researched piece, thanks Harley.❤😊
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 26 күн бұрын
Thank you! Very kind 🙏
@stewartcohen7683
@stewartcohen7683 Жыл бұрын
That was really fun! Back in the 80's when I was setting up my system, I wanted a SOTA, but ended up with a P3 (with the straight one-piece tonearm, like in the second photo). Using a sorbothane mat for a little better isolation, clamp, a mid-range cartridge (dynavector) and rewiring the back end (because of cable corrosion), I have really been quite happy for a very long time now. A while back I switched to a McIntosh pre-amp, and I think I get all the reveal I need with my older ears! From the looks of it, the P-10 has improvements on all the best parts of the P3 formula.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks m! Enjoy your turntable, enjoy the music!
@dell177
@dell177 Жыл бұрын
A very enjoyable trip through turntable designs. I bought the AR XA turntable while stationed in Korea during my army service in 1969. I used it up until the late 70's when i replaced it with a Connoisseur BD2 and gave the AR to a friend. Peter Mitchell of the Boston Audio Society published and article on improving the XA and I may still have a copy of that somewhere. As I recall the arm on the later turntable was better but the suspension on the AR just worked better. i remember having a Thorens 316 that had a problem with a bouncy floor, I solved that by "floating" the Thorens on an 8" inner tube that was inflated with just a few PSI of air - i remember it taking some trial and error to find the center of mass so it was all level but it solved that floor bounce once and for all.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
:-) ingenious!
@bobmarker6812
@bobmarker6812 Жыл бұрын
I have a Thorens TD 166 MK 2 I bought new back in the early 80's. Love it!
@adrianconti5718
@adrianconti5718 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful list of turntables, happy owner of a Rega P3, so glad you chose the P10, just a wonderful machine!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@krisp3128
@krisp3128 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video once again, Harley! Always enjoyable and informative! I agree that each turntable merits their place on the list, but I'm missing 2: - the Ariston RD11, on wich the Linn Sondek LP12 was based (well...) - not a commercial success, but a great story.... - the Dual CS-505. Back in the 80s, they were hugely succesful, and, to me at least, they are a trough mark of the era...
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi Kris. absolutely! On reflection, I should have mentioned both Ariston and Dual...
@paulcgretired6245
@paulcgretired6245 Жыл бұрын
Good Day Kris, as a Linn owner, I would say: "on which the Linn Sondek LP12 "perfected"" 😇
@barbaradee5191
@barbaradee5191 Жыл бұрын
I bought a (new) Thorens 160 back in the 1970s and loved it . When I got back into vinyl a few years ago I was lucky enough to get a pristine Thorens 165 for a great price. I like this 165 better as it uses just gravity for stylus presure instead of a spring like in the 160.
@Yoda8945
@Yoda8945 4 ай бұрын
I have a Thorens TD126 MKII and I find the spring downforce interesting. You could use the turntable on the moon or upside down (if you could keep the table itself in place) without adjustment.
@panagiotisargyropoulos2217
@panagiotisargyropoulos2217 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Looking forward to the next ones.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
you're welcome
@MarkMuddimer
@MarkMuddimer Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, insightful viewing Harley. Most enjoyable.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark.
@carmenandthedevil2804
@carmenandthedevil2804 Жыл бұрын
I sold Regas from 83 to 2015 and was always impressed. I'm a member of an Australian Forum now and there is a creeping mendacity towards the cancelling of the brand on this Forum. Technics is the be all and end all. Glad to see someone in the business that appreciates Rega for what it is.
@scottchegg1209
@scottchegg1209 Жыл бұрын
I used to retail rega. Funk firm and well tempered destroy them!!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@carmenandthedevil2804
@carmenandthedevil2804 Жыл бұрын
@@scottchegg1209 yeah, how? We sold the Continuum as well but I didnt need to mention that. Sounds like you have an Agenda, boring.
@thatguy6054
@thatguy6054 Жыл бұрын
"Technics is the be all and end all." - likely due to today's DJ culture. They're regarded as artists and have as much notoriety as musicians and producers. So their equipment choices gain cult status.
@brave1671
@brave1671 Жыл бұрын
Technics is for people who know nothing about turntables. Safe bet but overrated and too expensive for what they offer.
@simonheffernan1767
@simonheffernan1767 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned LENCO! I have 3. Great refurbished.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
😀👍
@rsyalom
@rsyalom Жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation. I purchased a SL 1200MK2 in the mid 1980’s and used it continuously for 30 years then sold it fir more than I originally paid. A fine piece of engineering. But as my other kit was upgraded… it definitely was holding back the sound. I’m super happy with my new red P3 with Ortofon Bronze. Much more detail and separation.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment and kind appreciation.
@My3rd.Million
@My3rd.Million Жыл бұрын
In 1977 I bought a barely used Sony 2251 with a Gen 2 SME 3009 and Grado Cartridge. Still play it to this day. Fantastic table/arm combo.
@DismasM
@DismasM Жыл бұрын
Nice job. My LP12 dates to 1984 but I've only owned it for 15 years. Looking forward to episodes 2 & 3.
@scottchegg1209
@scottchegg1209 Жыл бұрын
Ditch the lp12 get a well tempered or funk firm!! Lp12 very over rated. I have owned 9 over the years
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, thanks for your kind words. Pt. 2 coming soon. Pt3 is in the planning for the New Year ... more videos to come for sure.
@DismasM
@DismasM Жыл бұрын
​@@scottchegg1209 Why did it take 9 LP12s for you to realize how overrated they are?
@edwinmarcano6741
@edwinmarcano6741 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I am glad to see a couple of turntables I have owned. One of my biggest regret is selling my LP-12. However, I am back to vinyl with a VPI Scout. Looking forward to parts and 3. Well done!
@DarthChainsaw
@DarthChainsaw Жыл бұрын
I would keep my VPI over almost everything on this list.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Pt2. is recorded and in editing. Pt3. is under construction and programmed for the New Year.
@Vinyl-Movement
@Vinyl-Movement Жыл бұрын
Great video. Really looking forward to the next two videos.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you! December 12 part 2
@indieworks
@indieworks Жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation. So much knowledge and an ear for good music I hope.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@martincosby9743
@martincosby9743 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Thanks. I have a Dual 1009, from 1964. The first version, without a cueing lever. It sounds amazing, I find it is superior to many modern decks. The platter is very heavy indeed, and the arm is very light. And it is fully automatic of course. I rather think it will last forever!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 5 ай бұрын
That’s interesting. I will look it up! Sadly I overlooked Dual in my talk. Enjoy your wonderful turntable
@luisperez-fs2gz
@luisperez-fs2gz Жыл бұрын
In my return to vinyl 14 years ago, I purchased an entry level Rega RP1 to see if the vinyl experience was worth it. Since them, I have modified this table with an aluminum sub-plater, acrylic platter and an RB330 arm. This simple setup will be a part of my system for many years to come.
@salamanderhillbillyweasel1629
@salamanderhillbillyweasel1629 27 күн бұрын
Upgrading is always amazing!
@johnford3825
@johnford3825 Жыл бұрын
I ought my Thorens Td 160C in the early 1970’s and I still have it and use it today. Just fantastic.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insights…
@robertmale7413
@robertmale7413 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video so much! We are of an age. I think, and your recollections and reflections on early hi-fi were great - thank you!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks - very kind
@billywindsock9597
@billywindsock9597 Жыл бұрын
An excellent video Harley. I grew up a few years after you and was lucky enough to have an LP12 for some years. I sold it to fund university! I never sold my LP's and stored them carefully until Covid led me to a new turntable. I chose a Michell Gyro, but the Rega P8 was also on my list. I was a hifi snob as well and Rega was sneered at, until you heard one objectively. There are a number of fine machines available now, but the huge oil rig dimension machines don't excite me at all.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very kind. Lovely comment. I am with you all the way.
@007EnglishAcademy
@007EnglishAcademy Жыл бұрын
until you heard one objectively??
@deadquietvinyl
@deadquietvinyl Жыл бұрын
I own a Technics 1200g and its smallest brother 1500c. Glad to see 1200 in your list, Harley. Nice and well documented video! 👌
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 🙏
@espenblom-stenersen6098
@espenblom-stenersen6098 Жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics But what happened to the sl-1100 if sl-1200 was the first? Excellent video by the way :).
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
@@espenblom-stenersen6098 actually, the first was the SP-10. No idea about a SP1100 😉
@espenblom-stenersen6098
@espenblom-stenersen6098 Жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics True. The SP-10 was released in 1970. SL-1100 was later, from 1975, with a brushless motor. I have one of those :)
@charlesachurch7265
@charlesachurch7265 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating presentation thanks xxx
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@michaelwehner1738
@michaelwehner1738 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful talk. I purchased a Dual 1216 fitted with an Empire 1000 cartridge new in ‘76. Years later it fell into disrepair due to several moves. I had it restored recently and presented it to my daughter. It’s been in daily use ever since. Thank you.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Nice! I love this continuity aspects to our hobby.
@ramzimusallam5143
@ramzimusallam5143 Жыл бұрын
Had my Rega P3 (with the straight RB300 tonearm) since 1986 and apart from replacing the band it's been brilliant. It's probably the one component that hasn't been upgraded or will be over time. Nice round up!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@violin-schwerin
@violin-schwerin Жыл бұрын
I've got the Rega rp8, fantastic turntable! In skeleton mode, obviously. I particularly appreciate the setup simplicity, as well as the stellar performance
@mpmcruz
@mpmcruz Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a P8 and it’s fantastic
@violin-schwerin
@violin-schwerin Жыл бұрын
@@mpmcruz certainly!
@michaelbrian219
@michaelbrian219 Жыл бұрын
What an excellent review of the important milestones of modern turntables. I was in Hi Fi retail in the late 60’s and early 70’s and it was the Garrard 301 and 401 and the space age Transcriptors that made a great impression on me, though I could never afford to own any of them. A superb presentation, thank you .
@chipperkeithmgb
@chipperkeithmgb Жыл бұрын
Had a 401. Got a transcriptors. To replace it love it
@braaimanook
@braaimanook Жыл бұрын
I had a 401 partnered with the Transcriptors Fluid Arm with the Shure v15mk4 cartridge. The arm whilst innovative was in my opinion a bit of a disaster. The pivot which was or seemed to be a piece of mild steel fashioned to a point one end after a period of time the point wore down. The silicon fluid used to migrate and thus everything it touched was sticky. The sound was brilliant however, but that was in the main I believe,down to the KEF transmission line speakers I built from an old Wireless World article design utilising Dr. Bailey's longhaired wool.
@boydsargeant7496
@boydsargeant7496 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic video, bring on part 2!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very kind. Pt. 2 - December 12
@MODAC
@MODAC Жыл бұрын
I currently own three of them: Linn, Technics, and Rega. Thanks Harley.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a collection… thanks for your kind words
@paulgrooveside2803
@paulgrooveside2803 Жыл бұрын
What a perceptive and thorough list! Through the decades, I've owned a Garrard, a Thorens, a direct drive Technics, an LP12 and a Gyrodec. My Gyrodec sounds wonderful. My friend had a Rega P3, it was a super record player, I'll be fascinated to learn about your P10 in. Part 2!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very kind. It took some work 😉
@paulgrooveside2803
@paulgrooveside2803 Жыл бұрын
I also had a Revolver Super, which was brilliant. I lost it in a burglary, otherwise I'd have kept it for ever. And a Pro-ject 6 mark 1, excellent value as a 'poor man's Gyrodec' until I could afford the Michell.
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 Жыл бұрын
I also own a gyrodec and it was a great improvement over a very nice sounding later model AR turntable , the eb101. I wanted something which would get me into the ballpark of high end table sound without tremendous money and have been very pleased. I became aware of the product when viewing a bunch of pictures of owners' high end expensive turntables posted from a very high end Italian Hi Fi club. There, among all these pictures of tables that cost like a small car was submitted a single picture of a gyro table. I figured if it could hold it's own among that company , it was worth investigating, since home theatre had made a turntable listening demo impossible at the time, and I needed a very solid, buy one time and keep it, choice. When I discovered that old man Michell , as his last undertaking before his death , had voiced a hot rodded Rega arm to the table, the techno arm, that allowed for VTA adjustment on the fly, I correctly figured that the established symbiotic match would serve my limited budget well. The isolating, from external acoustics, suspension design works very well in my small living room listening space. the soundstage is incredible.
@paulgrooveside2803
@paulgrooveside2803 Жыл бұрын
@@richardelliott8352 I find that the Gyrodec, with my Alphason Xenon arm and Goldring Excel cartridge makes every record sound like a live performance. The sense of space and life it brings from a record is fabulous. I'm glad you love yours too.
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox Жыл бұрын
Well presented and informative Sir. Jim 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you, very kind
@clivecato5923
@clivecato5923 5 ай бұрын
Saved my money in the 80's. Bought at TD160 from a dealer in Wimbledon (intimidating!) had my SME 3009 bolted on using various cartridges from shure. Ortofon. Happy times, but my grail turntable........ One day at a bus stop in Clapham Junction and was curious looking at some fantastic looking equipment in a hifi shop. I entered, and spoke to a fantastic guy called Alan. I then listened to a Townshend Rock turntable (I can't remember the arm) with a Decca London cartridge. Incatech class A amp (50 - 60 watts approximately) via Sir Galahad speakers....... Never heard anything like this before. The following day the Incatech, and Rock turntable had pride of place in my front room later adding a Hadcock SS 220 and a Music maker 2 cartridge. Nothing looked or sounded like it. I think it deserves an honorable mention!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Your story painted a wonderfully deserving picture. Thanks for sharing. Max Townsend was a very special guy.
@jamesdwright
@jamesdwright Жыл бұрын
I picked up a Technics sl1700 mk2 semi automatic and ive paired it with an AT 150 SA cartridge and Vista phono stage and the marriage is simply awesome. This setup rivals my digital chain which costs 10x the price.
@karmachochi
@karmachochi Жыл бұрын
Great guide to many of the iconic turntables of the last 60 years, Harley. My journey went from SP25 IV through Thorens TD160 / Hadcock Arm to Systemdek /SME III (the original Transcription model). The Thorens was great insofar as it was well engineered and with the Hadcock arm was consistently musical. The Systemdek was chosen for its quality engineering, suspension and SQ - it was never iconic (despite of or perhaps because of the love-it-or-loath-it Nextel finish), but I never felt tempted to change it in favour of the more hyped Linn LP12 - as much as I respect the latter. Happy days, when putting on a 12" slice of vinyl felt like an event! Looking forward to hearing more about the Rega in your listening room :)
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you, very kind. I love your term putting on an LP as an 'event'! That's so true. for me it still is, even though I use streaming and CD's too. Records are always special.
@debbieverret4033
@debbieverret4033 Жыл бұрын
Excellent talk, thank you, had a fold down Garrard turntable with attached speakers back in the 60's wore many records out on that player. My best buy was a 1976 Marantz series 6100, wish I hadn't sold it. Today I turn vinyl on a Fluance which sits on a wooden plinth.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment and kind remarks. Glad you enjoyed it
@gage4375
@gage4375 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely lovely presentation bloke😎
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bjk6994
@bjk6994 Жыл бұрын
I have the AR XA turntable. It is an amazing record player, so simple and well executed. MOMA has one in their permanent collection. Compared to my Oracle/Alphason it is close in performance. Remarkably easy to use, dead accurate, silent wow & flutter and very dynamic- you must hear one! Remarkable…
@greatpix
@greatpix Жыл бұрын
I always wondered about those. I worried about how the arm didn't seem too steady at its pivot. Never got to demo one. If I had I probably would have searched for a good used one. Unsteady I had the AR The Turntable with a Linn arm on it. Before that a Braun PS 500 and before that, my first decent turntable, a Philips GA 212. Nowadays, because I wanted a table I could vary speed on so I could play along on my guitar easier, the AT 120 USB.aka the poor man's Technics 1200.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks! very interesting
@anandarochisha
@anandarochisha Жыл бұрын
I have an Oracle..love it..heard a lot of tabled. Brother in law had quad esl 63's with Naim and quad electronics tied to an Alphason Sonata table..koetsu black cartridge. Phenomenal.
@michaelarighi5268
@michaelarighi5268 Жыл бұрын
I've had the AR-XA since about 1969. Still works fine and is incredibly quiet and simple to use. Sorry, I'm on the West Coast of the USA, so I don't think it would be possible to loan it.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
@@michaelarighi5268 hi. Indeed I wouldn’t dare borrow it from you 😉 but that’s a very nice thought!
@gavinshaunbeck5486
@gavinshaunbeck5486 3 ай бұрын
Hi this was good information and looking forward for next.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@basslover1345
@basslover1345 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. 👏👏👏👏👏
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@zen_art_of_guardian_sudoku
@zen_art_of_guardian_sudoku Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this stroll down memory lane and your effort putting this video together. My list would be similar to yours although I might have added the Pink Triangle as it also caused a lot of fuss as the first possible competitor to the Linn Sondek. I spent hours and hours in the 70s auditioning equipment at Graham's HiFi in London. This was an important sales technique that they had at the time: give a potential customer lots of listening time with no pressure to buy and they will come back to you. I always wanted an LP12 but couldn't afford one. (I ended up with a Rega Planar 2 as that was as much as I could spend at the time.) However, the demos of the LP12 were not lost on me. Even when switching to cheaper amps and speakers, the Linn system often sounded better.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it. Lovely story thanks
@KiltedGreen
@KiltedGreen Жыл бұрын
I did the same at Subjective Audio comparing the Pink Triangle and Linn Sondek. I think I spent from 10am to 4pm listening. In the end I felt they sounded as good as each other, just different. The sales guy said well if it helps, farting near a Linn can put it out of adjustment and if you play singles you just switch between them but a total faff on the Linn. I bought the PT and had it until two years ago due to a change of circumstance - I loved it, paired with QUAD amplification, ESL63s and an Alphason arm and an Audi Technical moving coil. Beautiful music for years.
@worshiphisshadow9392
@worshiphisshadow9392 Жыл бұрын
rock and metal with garrard is heaven
@naradaian
@naradaian Жыл бұрын
Super bass capability
@timmuston2687
@timmuston2687 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I currently own two of the turntables on your list - the Pioneer PL12-d and a '90s Rega Planar 3. Great video.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim!
@joaomontespalma3946
@joaomontespalma3946 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! A journey 🙏
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very kind.
@wildstar41
@wildstar41 Жыл бұрын
Look forward to next part. I'm curious to hear thoughts on P8 vs P10.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
It's coming soon ;-)
@VicenteSansaloni
@VicenteSansaloni Жыл бұрын
Nice video and nice turntables selection. Despite I prefer digital sources, because I believe you can get better quality with less investment, I always keep a turntable in my system, and 3 years ago I got a Garrard SP25 MK IV that belongs to my father in law, I repeared it, build a new plinth and I am enjoying it. Really excited about the following 2 videos in the serie.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi Vincente... I owned an SP25MKlV too ;-) You're right about sound quality per $. But a turntable has something special that's hard to quantify...
@tom4137
@tom4137 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Well done. I still own and use a PL-12D.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome.
@CarlyWaarly
@CarlyWaarly Жыл бұрын
Good to see Technics get a mention, Technics 1200 Ltd in gold is a beautiful piece.
@casperghst42
@casperghst42 5 ай бұрын
I had an P3 for many years (got it in 88/89), then I got an TD160 which was not really that much better. Then I finally got an TD320mkII, which blew the P3 away, I still think that the TD320 is one of the best record players for the price (in good condition). Between all 3 players I used the same components; MC30ii, MCA10 and an GramAmp 1 ... it just worked. I then sold everything which had to do with vinyl.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment and contribution to the conversation
@ianp9086
@ianp9086 Жыл бұрын
I sometimes dream of owning a P10 so I’m looking forward to hearing your thoughts about it. My wonderful P25 is really a dressed up P3 and I love it. And I always appreciated how you could play a Rega out of the box - no tinkering required!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Pt. 2 on P10 coming soon...
@paulgreen2303
@paulgreen2303 Жыл бұрын
I've bought two P25s over the years. I'm convinced it's that RB600 tonearm that's the real winner over the P3, etc. A great value for a great 'table.
@mudachuka12345
@mudachuka12345 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that informative without being boring.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very kind
@vinylexplorer9817
@vinylexplorer9817 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I am excited about the next video.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@danrodriguez2447
@danrodriguez2447 Жыл бұрын
I knew that AR looked familiar. I had one in the mid to late 70s. I was living off campus with roommates. Someone they brought in liked it along with all my other gear. Never saw it again. I eventually replaced it with a B&O a few years later. It still works. Luckily, they left all my records. Some of those are irreplaceable.
@karabennemsi1923
@karabennemsi1923 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to you for hours. Congratulations, Harley. I'm impressed by your contribution - interesting and entertaining.🙃
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very humbled
@8050neil
@8050neil Жыл бұрын
When my father passed I asked for his Leak lenco, hooked it up to my 1210 system, mordant short speakers aand played pink floyd Money. The detail of the sound was fantastic
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Lovely story
@garysmith8455
@garysmith8455 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Harley! You presentation kept me glued to the screen here in the galley. I was pleased to see that your reveal was the flagship model from Rega. My regular LP spinner is the RP-6. The Exact 2 cart is a bit problematic, and I have gone through two of them and settled on an Ortofon Blue. Could not be happier 🙂, thanks again, I enjoy your no stress, relaxed style!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary - very kind!
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