PEAVEY VYPYR SPEAKER UPGRADE - METAL

So I upgraded the Peavey Vypyr combo and installed a Celestion Heritage GM12 speaker in there. Just trying to figure out if it's worth upgrading, it would be fairly easy to get a used peavey vypyr and a used celestion for a good price. Check it out and hear the comparison between the original and the Celestion.
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[@OlaEnglund]

Alright so I finally got a chance to upgrade the speaker in the Peavey Vypyr, did it improve? Check it out. Also have a great Friday!

[@843andrew]

your wall has a leak. you see the water streaks?

[@bishfish1514]

It was great

[@Phaerion]

To be honest I often find it very difficult to hear the more subtle differences in sound on KZbin videos. Also when you are using microphones the sound often seems verry muddy. Maybe it has something to do with how KZbin compresses the videos when they are uploaded. So most of the times I just rely on what you're telling about the sound instead of relying on how a pedal or amp sounds in the videos on KZbin.

[@portuguesebeer5069]

Can you review *PEAVEY 6505 MH* ? Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹

[@CrushingAxes]

Ola The Improver

[@Quetzalcoatl999]

Ola, the type of guy that doesn't even turn the amp off when changing the speaker.

[@hibernative]

Stressed me tf out haha

[@Quetzalcoatl999]

@@hibernativeyeah, a tube amp would have died from having no load connected.

[@MrDrTheJniac]

@@Quetzalcoatl999 It is a good thing that we have better technology. Still, I would not want to have the power amp on while I am handling bare wire.

[@TheCyberMantis]

You can pop a solid-state amp doing that, too. I would have unplugged it, before doing the swap.

[@bigchiefsmackaho387]

@@TheCyberMantis a fuse maybe but the whole amp is unlikely.

[@Project25_01]

Performing a speaker transplant while the amp is still on is one of the most metal things I've ever witnessed.

[@Beulzabob]

Hot swapping = pure metal

[@staceytindle1225]

Dang

[@jimmyjames7946]

Lol. That's a crazy Swede for ya!! Love him 🤘🤘🤘

[@arianXO1990]

Thats a precious way to be pure metal!!

[@guitarsimon1]

Ola using a Greenback so he wouldn’t have to pronounce Vintage Firty.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

Who doesn't enjoy saying Wintage Firty?

[@trulsolsen683]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 you mean the ouentadj furdi?

[@trulsolsen683]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 you mean the ouentadj furdi?

[@Nghilifa]

@@trulsolsen683 LOL. You wouldn't happen to be the same Truls Olsen who served in Esk 4, Pbn in 2008 right?

[@trulsolsen683]

@@Nghilifa I don't think so because I'd have been 7 at the time lmao

[@cliftongardner4367]

This just proves to me that once again, a lot of a what makes a good amp is the speaker.

[@Dirge4july]

Speaker / cab does so much more for your sound instead of buying a crap load of amps .

[@carlspackler9550]

Seen guys chasing a tone forever and then they put in a good speaker = different world.

[@MangoMeoww]

I don't understand how people don't know this yet honestly.

[@TheEchelon]

@@MangoMeoww Yup, the speaker is what moves the air. People buy all kinds of headphones/speakers for music listening to chase musical valhalla but when it comes to guitar... haha

[@Ignore14]

Yeah crazy how people will obsess over tone wood and tubes, but not pay attention to the speaker they're using. Yeah v30 works but there are other options.

[@dustsculpture]

Both sounds great. But I would go with the original speaker. Its quite brighter and wide.

[@ShredmasterScott]

I like the BASS response on this thing muhahaha

[@jaykay0401]

Hail satan!

[@angusyoung6582]

Hey man!! Muhahaha

[@ALTDOK667]

Sounds evil, right? 😈

[@Cthulhu_Awaken]

How many people have sold their souls to you man?

[@johnnyrebuffatti483]

Truly !!!

[@USDAselect]

"Oh what's there. Oh. Struggling to find a hole. Just like in real life." 😂😂😂 Ola is the best.

[@jaycosta1723]

I thought he said just like on a real wife either way off the cuff funny like always

[@Mikau-gb8uo]

and he's a pervert too

[@Hadouken5150]

Cliche but still funny.

[@rickleblanc8900]

@@Mikau-gb8uo and he belches regularly too ! He's a metal dude who doesn't give a shit lol

[@emotionalrelation997]

Personally, it sounded just a little better with the regular speaker to me, however there are any number of factors that could be contributing to that. On my earbuds, it sounded like the original speaker did have some extra fuzz in the sound, I think it's personal preference as to which you like more, or not... Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like you could get about the same effect as Ola did by changing to the Celstion speaker, just by turning the gain down a bit. Hahahaha. My opinion is not the only right one. On another note, this guy's riffs are SICK!

[@Alterwill]

The original speaker wasnt bad at all, but the Celestion killed it especially after Ola tweaked the settings a bit

[@ricardoramos495]

I got a peavy VYPYR 3 because you did the video of the stock speaker and the upgraded speaker I like the sound of the upgraded speaker so I’m going to do the upgrade thank you for what you do . You are a awesome guitarist I appreciate everything you and your videos are putting out there keep up the awesome work 👍👍👍👍

[@MainPrism]

Man I've been waiting for this video since you did the original review. I actually just bought the Vypyr VIP 3 with the Sanpera II foot controller 3 months ago. I love doing upgrades and mods and before the amp even came in I was wondering about changing the speaker. This though... Really helped make up my mind. Thanks Ola you're the man!!!

[@scottthebritt]

Honestly, I liked the first tone a lot, but maybe because my amplifiers are kind of cheap🤣🤘💯 ROCK ON OLA!

[@afrizalyusranzale6809]

Agree

[@fjosewottom]

I liked the first one a lot more, sounds more aggressive to me.

[@dreammfyre]

The new speaker is obviously a lot darker with the same settings, but when he tweaked it a bit it sounded a lot better to my ears. Way more body and a more compact, punchy sound.

[@fjosewottom]

@@dreammfyre I'd say not all of us have the same preferences and that's awesome 👍🏻

[@madmod]

I said on the last video i run my Vypyr 75 through a greenback and its hell on earth. So glad you did this.

[@Saber-2]

Thanks for making this! I was really looking forward to the vid. Really looking forward to that next vid!

[@Artefracture]

It sounds cool, I always felt that amps with digital modelling were meant to have neutral sounding speakers, pretty much stereo speakers, so the cab sims can do their thing.

[@coobanez777]

Love this "Upgrade" video idea, good job Ola!

[@carlvandam]

That new speaker made a world of difference. It's like a whole new amp on a new higher level. I really want to go grab one of these Peaveys and try a G12k100 in it. Thanks for the vid!

[@seanhammer6296]

Try an EVM 12L.

[@aaaargl]

to everyone who is looking to change speakers in their combo oder cabinet: DON'T FORGET THAT THE SPEAKER WILL NEED A BREAK-IN PERIOD BEFORE SOUNDING LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO. Don't be mad if it doesn't sound like you expected it, when you first change it. It will change over time.

[@seanhammer6296]

He put an under powered speaker in it, imo.

[@dmytrotarasov9477]

​@seanhammer6296 it being lower power means that it will reach the highest sound pressure faster.

[@IndependenceGuitar]

Yes, this is the kind of stuff that floats my boat.

[@OscarBlanco86]

Another great video, thanks Ola

[@brandonjessie291]

I have one of the older model Vypyrs as my bedroom amp, and I tried connecting it to my 4x12. Impedence was the same (8 ohms) on the cab as the speaker but after about 2 or 3 minutes all sounds stopped. I shut it off and fired it back up and same thing. It may have just been me but for whatever reason the output section of my amp did not like pushing that large of a cab. Be careful and don't blow something up....the few minutes I got to mess with it sounded ok...or as ok as it can going through 4 celestion G12t-75s. Good luck and may the chug be with you.

[@Rluce75]

I put my fender GTX 100 through my Line 6 Powercab + with a clean tube preamp (also with my Katana 100mkII) that I use with my Neural and STL laptop rig, and the difference is 💯 better! I have an older Vypyer 75 that has been collecting dust that I am going to go dust off and try now! Thanks Ola! Awesome vid!

[@danielsaturnino5715]

Thumbs up for Ola the swede helping out with budget gear.

[@austindurham5736]

I fucking love my vypyr dude. Peavey makes the good shit for sure. Ola you fucking kill it too man. I always watch these videos man they help me get through chemo and keep me motivated to play guitar on days when Im not doing so good. Thanks man 🤘

[@therewasascene]

The midrange growl added with the heritage sounded great. Dropping a bunch of hissy treble frequencies was great too. I’d say it was an upgrade for sure

[@greatreset3]

"Ola changing shit!" 🎸🎶👀

[@catch_this_mirage6564]

Very interesting test. Thank you Ola 🙂

[@beau692]

I bought this amp at a pawn shop and talked them down to $80.00. It’s a great amp, I am a keyboard player and I’ve played my keyboard thru this at small gigs. I also use it practice my bass and guitar at home, but I’m sure it’s loud enough for the stage, when its mic’d.

[@scottthebritt]

Awesome video Ola!🤘💯

[@triledink]

Take the Roland micro cube and make an external output and plug it in a 4x12 closed back and see how it sounds.

[@ilikepotatoes1345]

This

[@theunholybakery1990]

Or a Marshall ms2

[@ColbyJohnson303]

@@theunholybakery1990 I've done it with an MS-2, its exactly what you'd expect

[@Ignore14]

I actually tracked bass for a song one time using the Viper and can confirm it actually worked pretty well

[@woodward_alan]

Great concept here. I have a Katana combo and was wondering the same. Would like the 4x12 hookup video. I enjoy tinkering like this!

[@harveytrevino2257]

Yeah, seems like the bass response did get better. Especially the low end. Damn, may have to try this with my Line 6.

[@droksbeel]

Try it, line 6s have mediocore speakers.

[@lealcustomguitars4369]

It sounds immediately better! although the high response was the first thing to notice that change i get impressed with that bass definition when you chug. Great video man! looking forward to see what happen with a 4x12 cab

[@FeFeronkaMetallica]

First speaker sounded good by itself. I can imagine the GM12 fit much better in the mix.

[@chrissampsonmusic4806]

Dude! It definitely makes a difference on the viewer end! My 17 y/o wants to learn, and this is a great solution to purchasing a crappy ‘Starter Pack’ ! Cheers! Keep it going dude! -Chris

[@joeyvanostrand3655]

As a small time guitar dealer I can definitely tell you that if you get our child the VYPYR, it will not only last for years, the amp will be able to grow as their abilities grow. What I mean by that is after mastering the basics of guitar they can start adding more effects. There is also a USB out available on it. And, the Sampera foot controller, either the small or big one, REALLY opens the amplifier's capabilities up. Good luck my friend!

[@droksbeel]

Check out the katana artist and blackstar silverline, i have both and love them dearly.

[@louisburley1597]

I really enjoyed this. It was really different and I was intrigued

[@billbertagnoli4226]

The Peavey speakers can be Very good depending on the Application. I have a 25 year Old Peavey Blues 210 with Two 10 inch blue marvel Speakers. They really deliver A great sound. Lots of comments And compliments over the Years.

[@briangreene851]

Wow that's a huge difference with the new Celestion👍 see I've owned one of these amps and one of the things I hated about it was the cheesy POS speaker! I'm impressed it sounds much much better like Ola said it sounds like a real combo amp now. Awesome great job sir 🤘

[@tinkerbell4896]

Word up Ola!! This vid shows once again just how much the speakers have on your guitar sound. If i was to record with mic's on the amp, I think it would be worth the speaker swap. Rock on all!

[@nomadronin7361]

I switched out the stock speaker with a V30 and I am absolutely impressed! Much better clarity and is very close tone wise to my EVH 5150 III but with just a tad less bass on the 6505 setting. I just had the V30 speaker sitting around but if I were to do it again I think an Eminence Governor would be even better, although similar.

[@AaronMorgan666]

Was it a British or Chinese v30? I have a harley benton 1x12 with a v30 but its the Chinese one. The ones in the mesa cabs are British. I'm thinking of switching the stock speaker out for the Chinese speaker I have not being used. But I like using the vip 2 for bass as well.

[@GuitarFromTheTomb]

Great video bro. Refreshing....

[@Tariqmajeedofficial]

Sound is better than BEFORE

[@gordontubbs]

I've heard similar results when people put a V30 in a Boss Katana. I think these modern modeling amplifiers come with near-FRFR speakers because the output section of whatever model being used has its own EQ curve.

[@user-be9ey4jb3c]

Newer speakers are better than the older.

[@dmytrotarasov9477]

​@@user-be9ey4jb3ckatana speakers are wide band speakers which means that they need modified signal. Otherwise there will be a lot of high end noise that is filtered by the guitar speakers (5-6k and up)

[@portuguesebeer5069]

Honestly i prefer the original. Can you review *PEAVEY 6505 MH* ? Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹

[@cameronjustis3836]

i would love to see that thats my first amp head i bought and i play through it every day

[@aideno2597]

hello again, baby

[@yuletide]

Yes to this!

[@BatmanWangChung]

It does sound better. I recently pulled the stock speaker out of my 6505+ 112 combo and put in a Peavey Scorpion speaker. Took away all the shrill high frequencies and got me more punch and clarity! The Peavey Scorpion speakers rule and I bought two of them for $40 on craigslist.

[@nicholastotoro7721]

Actually worked really well in that combo. I’m surprised since Greenbacks don’t normally like open-back 1x12 kind of applications. They get woofy. I do hear some of that in the lower mids (should be easy to dial out), but overall it’s a really nice improvement and gets rid of the nasty hair and fizz.

[@tomieilamo]

Great video, I've been thinking of switching the speaker on my ValveKing 112 for awhile and I think this is a nice comparison for that.

[@WardGuitarCabinets]

A lot more low end and a lot less sizzle. Very well rounded. Would love to hear the difference on this amp between the g12 Heritage and a g12 v30.

[@michaelwolff9207]

Thanks for following through!!!

[@TheIsahn]

I have the Valve king, but never had payed attention to this amp before, It sounds amazing

[@deadscenedotcom]

Enjoying the upgrade theme.

[@ricardoramos495]

I really liked the sound with the upgraded speaker now I’m going the go buy a peavy vypyr and upothe speaker your the best oh yah love your dog congratulations he’s beautiful love everything your doing with your you tube show metal onnnn 🤘

[@PeteKaltsa]

The greenbacks are the smoothest, creamiest sounding speakers IMO I love them

[@daceyatesfdfband3209]

Ola. One mistake in the judgement of this experiment is the the new speaker is under power rated. That makes tons of difference right there. You should have matched the watts to that of factory speaker.

[@langy8525]

Really enjoyed this video! I’m intrigued what a 4x12 with V30s in it would sound like! 🇬🇧

[@Clafrance1971]

F*CKING Loud would be my guess.

[@rk28984]

pretty boring in my experience ;)

[@farqueleyou7578]

Like every 2-bit shitpot identikit band to come out over the last 3 decades

[@tbeard5458]

I have an older Peavey Vypyr 30 and I swapped the stock speaker (Blue Marvel) with a Eminence Governor. It rounded out the tone a little and gave it more "oomph", a worthy upgrade. The old speaker tone would get lost playing live, whereas a better speaker helped the tone come through much better. The Vypyr 30 isn't an overly loud amp so it didn't help volume-wise. I also tested the same combo with a 2x12 Zilla cab which was a huge improvement. The speaker change was one thing, but a hefty cab made all the difference. I may be tempted to get the Vypyr converted into a head sometime, as changing the cabinet was by far the biggest improvement.

[@geoffsprock]

That’s crazy! I’m in the process of doing this myself, except on the VIP1 with an 8 inch speaker.

[@mikebennett7312]

I own this Amp and have to admit that I'm biased. I use it for both guitar and bass and I'm in love with the amp as it comes from Peavey. I will say that I've been eyeballing purchasing the Solar e1.7 cannibalismo guitar and hearing the e1.6 through it has confirmed that it will absolutely be my next guitar purchase.

[@pmoney085]

Sounded way better after. I was thinking of changing out my speaker in a 6505+ combo. Definitely going to do that now.

[@WardGuitarCabinets]

I like this upgrade video. Upgrade videos rock for us budget guys. Haha

[@RaphaelOlmos]

Great great videoooooo Ola 🤘🏻

[@georgedomse]

OMG, I dig this with the new speaker.

[@thelieinbelieve6594]

Sounds way better, but just on my cellphone. The first speaker made the chugs sound like cans dragging behind a car. The second more round.

[@rickleblanc8900]

The second speaker sounded a bit fuller and less harsh. That being said, he could've tweaked the eq a bit during the first trial run and gotten a better result ?

[@brettshawver2983]

The Peavey Vypyr Pro 100 is hugely underrated as well. The distortion is very nice!

[@timothysloan1696]

It sounded very metal man I love it man makes me want to go out and buy one thanks Ola you are so cool thanks thanks for all your videos man

[@TaylorDanley]

Snagged a 60w tube version. Haven’t played it yet, but as soon as I saw there was a triple X preamp mode, I knew I had to get one…. Also, it has a Krankenstein preamp mode in it, so I really want to compare that to my Krank as well! 🤘🤘

[@bigchiefsmackaho387]

These vypyrs are one of the few modeling amps i would swap the speakers on. Line 6 usually dont do well with swapping the speaker in the combos because they are voiced for modeling but Peavey use their standard voiced speakers with this line of amps so the swap sounds great.

[@jorgeguitar2540]

Because the vypyr is using a real guitar speaker like the boss katana? The other modeling amps use full range speaker with cab sims. well the spider got an upgrade where u can turn off the tweeter and make it sound like a guitar speaker.

[@randyschock7374]

I switched the speaker in my Katana 50 mk2 to a vintage 30, and it made it sound great. I highly recomend.

[@peevee605]

Great video, dude.

[@douchebagamus]

Hi Ola, love your work! :-)

[@krumple4skin548]

The old usa sheffields sound pretty good in these

[@Iceplorer]

As for the "IR infront of the speaker" that might actually also be true. I remember the original vypyr series got a software update where you could set 4 different sounding modes. Also an Idea instead of switching speaker: add a jack socket. I still plan to do that for mine...

[@ItsToxicWasted]

A friend of mine has the small Peavy Vypyr (w/out the lcd screen) and we both agree that the bass response was just too much. he likes to play rock riffs and choruses, where I like to drop D + palm mute everything, yet I couldn't help but chuckle when a stock Washburn Stratocaster was making the walls reverberate. Good video for the versatile amp! Now I can tell him to save up for a Celestion speaker. or an eminence dv-77 >:D

[@TheEpicLinkFreeman]

if you just remove the speaker altogether, you can just solder a regular 1/4" output jack in its place and connect whatever you want, whenever you want with a regular speaker cable

[@EXSENTRIX]

Cool vid Ola. I really dig those little Vypyr's. For like a month I've been thinking about installing a celestion in mine too. That or keep the Celestion in my Line6. Keep it on the clean channel and buy the EVH overdrive pedal. Hmmm...Decisions. So funny to see this vid. The universe is speaking to me lol. Cheers Ola! 🤘🏼🎸

[@supergoat94]

On video the original sounded better, however after listening again I bet the new speaker sounds better in person.

[@slavesforging5361]

that's my suspicion as well. i bet the celestion is much better live, but the original might record better for really aggressive modern tones.

[@themarauder3404]

I preferred the original speaker, you can record it and apply some EQ in post to adjust it to your taste

[@Traski]

The Celestion has less harsh upper frequencies and less farty bottom end. A bit darker tho

[@trendkill3333]

Sounds a little more muffled too but it’s better

[@machinenoise9622]

My ear prefers the original speaker. The "upgrade" sounds a bit subdued.

[@xisotopex]

the upgrade sounds muffled

[@MadAlhazred]

Needs to break in.

[@stevenbullock9276]

Agreed.

[@rickleblanc8900]

Sometimes a little extra eq tweaking is all you need if one isn't completely satisfied. I thought the original speaker sounded fine, though.

[@mattberg6816]

@@MadAlhazred they recommend running it at full power for ten hours to break them in. It’s a huge pain in the ass. I try to buy used speakers for that very reason

[@CheapGearJunkRiffs]

Damn alot of love for the vypyr. 🤘

[@nopenopenope3330]

The tube power section on the Vypyr Tube models smooths out some of that harshness already. I think the cabinet of the Tube 60 combo may be a bit bigger as well even though it's also a 112. The 120W Vypyr Tube combo was a 212 and I'd imagine that'd have some more bottom end too. The tube models do not work with the peavey vypyr edit software though that the newer vypyrs had if you really want that feature.

[@MetalliDay]

i love the woofyness of the celestion but love the presence of the og speaker

[@anvil777]

it surprises me that so many of the commentators here didn't account for one thing. Ola bought this amp used, meaning the original speaker is broken in. The new Celestion is not.... it will sound even better after it's "broken in". Totally worth the upgrade to my ears.

[@williamleather500]

sounds good . . I like my Peavey Vypyr 15 . . . I just got a Fender FM 212 for $ 85. the best deal of the year . . .sounds very good.

[@MercilessGuitar151]

I have a 1st gen vypyr still laying around. I am glad to see they took the stupid plastic fangs off of the newer ones. I had to remove that mess myself.

[@Nestorglass]

wait I have an older vypyr too (100w), what fangs?

[@heshwuan]

The new, more expensive speaker requires more power/volume to really push it. But I like the more rounded tone and darkness that it has.

[@farqueleyou7578]

Ola's goes from chugga chug, to Darkthrone and back to chugga again. Thats metal.

[@markokuha7128]

Great shit, Ola, as always! 🤘🏻 You should do more this kind of gear modding and some frankenstein stuff videos, they are really interesting.

[@markokuha7128]

”Ola pimpin’ shit”

[@mishapashchenko6518]

You know what would be awesome? If Solar guitars made a Dimebag shaped guitar, that would be badass!🤘

[@markotarma]

The Vypyr sounds amazing. Damn.

[@bproc5715]

Thank you.... i love this amp

[@pablolister5819]

Like always! ITS A GOOD VIDEO!

[@bretttrommler756]

Definitely an improvement. The new speaker sounds much tighter with much less of that top end staticy fuzz.

[@letch1529]

badass. gonna do mine

[@577buttfan]

I added a eminence governor to my tube vypyr and its sounds excellent

[@edwincrain986]

I've been waiting for this one ! I have one of these same modal amps setting on a shelf. Maybe I'll do the same.

[@tomasolsson6493]

Nice highs and midds on the first speaker. Lifeless blanket over speaker sound after the upgrade

[@davidg1612]

Laughed way too hard at the "struggling to find the hole" comment.