Frank Zappa & The Mothers - King Kong - Essen, 1968

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@BrothaVoodoo
@BrothaVoodoo Жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, this incarnation of the Mothers is the best. They were a movement, freak revolution incarnate! None of Zappa's later bands were this organic.
@John_13_35
@John_13_35 11 ай бұрын
Dunno. The ensemble on OSFA is the funkiest and most groovy IMHO
@JamesJones-i2v
@JamesJones-i2v 8 ай бұрын
I don't compare eras. I love Zappa as a whole
@ariannaclearday
@ariannaclearday 6 ай бұрын
Zappa, understandably, had the least musical dominance over the original Mothers. But Zappa was the original visionary force from the time he joined the Soul Giants.
@gustavovalverde6226
@gustavovalverde6226 5 ай бұрын
Maybe
@FulfilledJew
@FulfilledJew Ай бұрын
You possible 'loony'.....
@BlackKaweah
@BlackKaweah 6 жыл бұрын
A few years ago my gf and I were walking down Sierra Madre Blvd when I hear King Kong emanating from a bar up the street. And there on a sidewalk blackboard was written "Don Preston Quartet." What a great night that was.
@helpimarock66
@helpimarock66 10 жыл бұрын
Easily the most stylish mothers video. The dim lighting and the black and white camera make them look like a bunch of ghosts. Great performance of Kong too.
@gorgegorge5061
@gorgegorge5061 4 жыл бұрын
It,s5:14in the morning 🌄 and this is the 1st time for me and I,m digg,n just às much as I do any of Zappa,s work done,t even have to think about it this is very good mother's music 🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎵🎶🎵 Thanks 👍😊👍😊😊👍 🦈 SHARK 🦈
@electriczoo5310
@electriczoo5310 2 жыл бұрын
moving picture version of the absolutely free cover
@timowalker24
@timowalker24 Жыл бұрын
I love how the final edit of this vid really shows the musicians face and groove they’re feeling and then sometimes the fingering work on the instrument. Love Franks face … just listening to the piece he wrote … ALL LIVE STUFF … so good…
@kurtputnam9963
@kurtputnam9963 2 жыл бұрын
Zappa liked the later lineups, but this was my favorite (1968-69). Black-Tripp-Estrada=unbeatable rhythm section!
@deeceea9488
@deeceea9488 7 ай бұрын
I agree. They were also the funniest and most Charismatic.
@jonmeltzer1361
@jonmeltzer1361 3 жыл бұрын
Motorhead, best snorkist in the music business.
@mvwoon
@mvwoon 3 жыл бұрын
Jazz psychedelic folk rock blues fusion jam. Grateful Floyd Doors Crazy Horse.
@zombywoof7583
@zombywoof7583 6 жыл бұрын
If there really is a heaven, then it's soundtrack should be Zappa music. I never want to be without it.
@cliffspencer9989
@cliffspencer9989 3 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the greatest versions of King Kong. Mr Zappa you truly were a genius 🙏❤️
@GetUpTheMountains
@GetUpTheMountains 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Something about these original Mothers really makes it.
@squeakeththewheel
@squeakeththewheel 3 жыл бұрын
And it's not brown shoes.
@themitchies
@themitchies 3 жыл бұрын
Yea without a doubt in my mind they were the best rock band of this time period. Nobody else was doing anything like them.
@davidnorden1972
@davidnorden1972 3 жыл бұрын
I always come back to their 1967-1970 period. It speaks to me in a way that the later music of FZ doesn't.
@187tomw
@187tomw 2 жыл бұрын
@@themitchies Not disagreeing, but I hear some commonality with Sun Ra, and they were both in NYC during this period(I think).
@timoj24
@timoj24 8 жыл бұрын
This will never get old!
@tomn9094
@tomn9094 5 жыл бұрын
I agree it seems to get "newer" each time I listen
@adrianonogueiraaleixo2452
@adrianonogueiraaleixo2452 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree!!!! This song and the Frank Zappa’s songs won’t never be old !!! Awesome musicians and amazing music!!! I’ve felt in ecstasy when I’ve listened them!!! Thank God for listening Frank Zappa for more than 44 years!!!
@jameskennedy721
@jameskennedy721 2 жыл бұрын
Ultra rare film of Frank's original band .
@adrianonogueiraaleixo2452
@adrianonogueiraaleixo2452 Жыл бұрын
Thank you God for listening this song and Frank Zappa songs for more than 43 years!!! This version of King Kong is definitely one of the best !!! Sounds awesome!!!
@mikesullivan6603
@mikesullivan6603 2 жыл бұрын
I love this version classic zappa
@borisblade564
@borisblade564 9 жыл бұрын
what a performance...a masterpiece
@Anzevuil
@Anzevuil 9 жыл бұрын
Zappa at his best. B&W closeup grimy noir filming: great. Musical rendering: killer. 14:07 of satisfaction. :-)
@TraceyRolandelli
@TraceyRolandelli 6 жыл бұрын
God this version is gorgeous.
@robinbolton6064
@robinbolton6064 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus! This predates Miles fusion ..... Weather Report...Tony Williams Emergency....this is way ahead. A Jazz Rock fusion comet!
@dylanwesley3964
@dylanwesley3964 4 жыл бұрын
Mikes put out Miles in the sky, and Files De Kiliminjaro out in 1968. He was tapping into the fusion by then
@jessicasfakeaccount
@jessicasfakeaccount 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylanwesley3964 yeah, but you need guitar to do the style, meaningfully. frank was first...it's just the facts.
@jessicasfakeaccount
@jessicasfakeaccount 4 жыл бұрын
_however_ there is a caveat, and an open question in history - miles was waiting for jimi to react, and he ultimately didn't. might miles have beaten frank to it if jimi had responded sooner? it's hard to say. and, if jimi _had_ responded sooner, might he have taken the concept in a different direction, altogether?
@robinbolton6064
@robinbolton6064 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessicasfakeaccount excellent point Jessica. Timing is everything and had Miles collaborated with Jimi you would have to wonder how cosmic that might have been. I like the way you think Jessica.
@robinbolton6064
@robinbolton6064 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessicasfakeaccount also Jessica.... Miles had an eye for talent and Wayfinders. You can bet he dropped bits for Hendrix but as you eluded to he didn't bite. It's a shame....I don't deny that Cosey's work during Miles SuperFunk Electronic period wasn't groundbreaking.. especially after the work McLaughlin laid down....but you can't help but wonder what would Miles or Mahavishnu have sounded like with the sonic capabilities of Mr. Hendrix.
@robertjermantowicz7487
@robertjermantowicz7487 8 жыл бұрын
Jazz lives! The MOI Band at their improvisational best!
@NaguaLvsTonaL
@NaguaLvsTonaL 5 жыл бұрын
Not an ounce of improvisation with zappa. Everything was carefully repeated.
@weeooh1
@weeooh1 5 жыл бұрын
@@NaguaLvsTonaL You are wrong. Zappa improvises a lot. Many of his live performances of studio songs differ greatly almost every time he plays them.
@NaguaLvsTonaL
@NaguaLvsTonaL 5 жыл бұрын
@@weeooh1 In music we call "variation" the fact of modifying pieces. So it is obvious that zappa was not going to play the same way for 30 years. And I say it to you for having read a lot of books about him that he left no place for the improvisation. Everything was meticulously repeated in advance. It's very well known to him and his fans.
@pechondelgado
@pechondelgado 3 жыл бұрын
@@NaguaLvsTonaL You aren't correct. There was plenty of improv throughout his whole career with Frank himself and every soloist he invited into the band.
@llamaking9835
@llamaking9835 3 жыл бұрын
@@NaguaLvsTonaL Zappa himself said there was improvisation in his bands. skip to around a minute into the interview linked below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6mcnJKcrNymra8
@JsRf13
@JsRf13 8 жыл бұрын
this is the best version of King Kong I think I've ever heard. maybe one of the best versions of any song I've ever heard. definitely in the annals of great fucking music.
@Civilizashum
@Civilizashum 7 жыл бұрын
I got so bored I bailed. They're not doing anything.
@JsRf13
@JsRf13 7 жыл бұрын
they really are. you're just trying too hard to be cool, so it's okay. just move along.
@Psychedelic_Psychedeler
@Psychedelic_Psychedeler 6 жыл бұрын
Listen to Good God's version
@mandoprince1
@mandoprince1 6 жыл бұрын
I like this, but my favourite version is the one they recorded for the BBC.
@severalboogie
@severalboogie 6 жыл бұрын
Personally, the Boston/Ark/69 version is my favorite as Buzz Gardner blows a solo like no other. This is a close second though.
@bigdawg7703
@bigdawg7703 Жыл бұрын
There's that perfect sliver of life that only a few get to travel. I would give most of anything to go back in time and witness this creation were the four sat and changed so many filling voids thought impossible to comprehend. LZ forever.
@fabrikk60
@fabrikk60 Жыл бұрын
Finally - that snork instructional video I've been looking for!
@LaserGuidedWhitehaus
@LaserGuidedWhitehaus Жыл бұрын
Yeah! This band with Don Preston and Bunk Gardner. All those guys. Funny and totally serious at the same time. It's still solid gold.
@NSY319
@NSY319 5 жыл бұрын
High-quality sound !!!
@robinbolton6064
@robinbolton6064 9 ай бұрын
Crazy trivia… the original Mothers lineup played they’re last show ever as an ensemble right down the road here from me in Aug ‘69 just as they were packing up at Woodstock coincidentally. (Ottawa Canada) .The band thought maybe they should have looked into appearing in upstate New York but elected to do a Montreal festival and then a trip here to film a late night TV special instead….after which the flew back to L.A. Where they were promptly disbanded for good. Neat bit a trivia there for ya.
@generaldefault8861
@generaldefault8861 4 жыл бұрын
This is SOOOOO Damn GOOD!!
@paulinebutcherbird
@paulinebutcherbird 4 жыл бұрын
While this was going on, I was living at Frank's log cabin in Laurel Canyon with Gail, his wife, their daughter, Moon Unit and seven others. Read about the extraordinary experience told by a young English girl suddenly thrust in their midst - the only book to describe Zappa's home life day to day. 1968 - 1971. 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa.'
@fabrikk60
@fabrikk60 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the book! A very realistic account of life in the Zappa household, warts and all. Any FZ fan will learn new and insightful things.
@paulinebutcherbird
@paulinebutcherbird 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabrikk60 Thank you for letting me know. Here's the test. Give me one insightful thing you learned!
@fabrikk60
@fabrikk60 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulinebutcherbird Hello. I'm going to defer your test, until I read the updated edition of your book! (I only learned of it today.)
@ingomeyer4153
@ingomeyer4153 2 жыл бұрын
Wish i had been to the Essener Songtage 1968...but i was just 5 years old then...
@ewanleitch-g3h
@ewanleitch-g3h 8 ай бұрын
Can't get enough of king Kong live recordings, braw song far an out of this world composer and freak band , woww
@weeooh1
@weeooh1 5 жыл бұрын
Zappa introduced Hendrix to the wah-wah.
@Stinkfoot1403
@Stinkfoot1403 8 ай бұрын
Other way around
@suterb
@suterb 10 күн бұрын
Del Casher (the guy that invented the wah pedal) was actually part of the Mothers for a while.
@G7flat5
@G7flat5 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this memory
@deparlaregis7864
@deparlaregis7864 9 ай бұрын
je suis né cette même année, 68, Franck jouait déjà comme ça!? Tu m'étonnes qu'il soit ma référence musicale... 🥰
@PaulPadoan
@PaulPadoan 8 ай бұрын
That band could only exist in that time and space continuum, and we hev all been here to experience it, on way or another. Amazing. I don't think music ever will find its way back to orignality in composing.
@udomatthiasdrums5322
@udomatthiasdrums5322 2 жыл бұрын
still love this music!
@scottberkowitz6530
@scottberkowitz6530 6 ай бұрын
Mind blowing this creation in '68. Genius.
@leethomaston4314
@leethomaston4314 6 жыл бұрын
Eargasm awesome
@diddywahdaddy
@diddywahdaddy 6 жыл бұрын
Shocked big time in a positive way to find this on YT! And with King Kong, as well!! (The BBC version is devine, and so is this)
@alexspsychedelicchannel2521
@alexspsychedelicchannel2521 6 жыл бұрын
I just saw Dweezil last night and he played the King Kong interlude!!!
@slunkyferrailleur7799
@slunkyferrailleur7799 Жыл бұрын
Chacun de ses concerts sont différents et passionnants par tant de richesses infinies...
@tomn9094
@tomn9094 5 жыл бұрын
Bunk's look and playing are iconic.
@gabrieldelasablonniere1814
@gabrieldelasablonniere1814 5 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup Ça m'a permis de jouer avec eux au clavier. Ce document est génial
@jimmypsychonaut9530
@jimmypsychonaut9530 9 жыл бұрын
King kong forever
@Drbellotus
@Drbellotus 9 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Zappa Jam, much appreciated share!
@ERAZERHEAD-54
@ERAZERHEAD-54 8 ай бұрын
Impressive beyond grammar’s ability to correlate a proper or adequate explanation. In other words, I just love this!
@blur5725
@blur5725 Жыл бұрын
You can’t go wrong with that rhythm section
@marthabetancourt441
@marthabetancourt441 4 жыл бұрын
My Friends, putting in perspective that 52 years ago, there were a bunch o guys capable of doing this music! Zappa "aesthetic, mostly hilarious sense of art" is increasingly growing to the infinite, relentlessly...........I was exposed to this music very late and fragmentarily, for reasons not important to mention. King Kong, as cubism, reflects and deflects in a way that its Reading is everchanging!
@CCASS1953
@CCASS1953 8 жыл бұрын
This is great video, great music......
@marcoviniciochiriboga8970
@marcoviniciochiriboga8970 8 жыл бұрын
Magical!! Fabulous !!! The Muse was there !!
@rockettebob
@rockettebob 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU !!! all this vote-in thing makes me worry, but this makes me smile again... i am going to listen and watch again before going about my day...bob
@dancarter6044
@dancarter6044 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thanks!
@Erik-se7sy
@Erik-se7sy 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic footage...thanks for sharing!
@pbuotte
@pbuotte 7 жыл бұрын
Damn - hot playing !
@pfaffman100
@pfaffman100 7 жыл бұрын
2017, St. Patrick's day. Perfect find. Big Thank you Zappa Jam.
@gutmensch9339
@gutmensch9339 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful song-melody !
@clintstewart5545
@clintstewart5545 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING MISS YOU FRANK ZAPPA !!!
@sayeddarwish
@sayeddarwish 7 жыл бұрын
truly amazing!
@marckustin9531
@marckustin9531 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone in this room is wearing a uniform. (thanx for posting)
@scifiwriter98
@scifiwriter98 3 жыл бұрын
At 7:25 Don Preston gets his jam on. This will always be the BEST version of the Mothers band, IMHO.
@musiclover01ization
@musiclover01ization 8 ай бұрын
Great performance.
@OkraProductions
@OkraProductions 2 жыл бұрын
so fing cool! more! more!
@instantdogma
@instantdogma 5 жыл бұрын
Jim and Art kicking some ass here.
@r.menzel8020
@r.menzel8020 9 ай бұрын
Timeless piece of music 🎶
@marioquintas808
@marioquintas808 6 жыл бұрын
Sensitivity supreme. Timeless music. There is the sharing.
@skeen267
@skeen267 4 жыл бұрын
This is fucking spectacular.
@mikethenumber1
@mikethenumber1 7 жыл бұрын
pretty good Brian Wilson impression by Roy Estrada
@jasond3938
@jasond3938 5 жыл бұрын
No webz for about two weeks , get it back . Going through utube , and this comes up . Epic tune , makes having the internet worth it ✌️👊
@neonkarat
@neonkarat 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit... I’m blown away.
@sims9006
@sims9006 3 жыл бұрын
they always were a step further, simply unique.
@yeshuaeclecticistide7427
@yeshuaeclecticistide7427 3 жыл бұрын
Best version ever
@robertotto5811
@robertotto5811 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that was good! Can I have some more?
@paolamarin2677
@paolamarin2677 6 жыл бұрын
Love Zappa!
@zaperfan
@zaperfan 8 жыл бұрын
1968 IT COULD HAVE BEEN YESTERDAY !!
@redbully7146
@redbully7146 6 жыл бұрын
NOT...stuff can't happen today..thnx liberal sissy whiners...arf...
@nigelmills3738
@nigelmills3738 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I am familiar with the BBC performance which I think was done the same year, but this is better. Plus the filming it first rate. Any one know who responsible for it? The BBC version is ruined by the awful Tony Palmer style filming which plagued the BBC at the time.
@zappajams
@zappajams 11 жыл бұрын
A documentation by Michael and Joachim Rüsenberg from 1968, production: WDR Television. More information about the show -> www.mahnert-online.de/songtage-programm.html
@nigelmills3738
@nigelmills3738 11 жыл бұрын
Zappa Jam Thanks
@Grithron2
@Grithron2 9 жыл бұрын
+Nigel Mills But the filming here's nothing to be proud of. Ian plays a long solo and is never even glimpsed on camera. In fact, save for a brief moment with Bunk (who's not actually doing much) we never see the horn section at all.
@synthonaplinth5980
@synthonaplinth5980 10 жыл бұрын
WHAT? No tambourine credit for Motorhead?!?
@zolarczakl3880
@zolarczakl3880 5 жыл бұрын
No snorks credit either. What a travesty!
@tomn9094
@tomn9094 5 жыл бұрын
never required happy to just ride along
@gianzag7102
@gianzag7102 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!!
@MrHarry0000010
@MrHarry0000010 Жыл бұрын
This is music
@warshipsatin8764
@warshipsatin8764 3 ай бұрын
yes, music is music
@gennadyivanov2614
@gennadyivanov2614 2 жыл бұрын
Заппа навсегда!
@claudioquadrana7341
@claudioquadrana7341 7 жыл бұрын
The King Frank
@scottconnors8419
@scottconnors8419 5 жыл бұрын
Essen show Zappa guitar at like 1:23 solo is amazing,like a badly unbiased fuzztone(maestro may guess?) but the creamy harmonics n octaves or unbiased tubes in amp.. some things awesome about it,been a listener 54 yrs. Thanx for loading,check out the name is The king Kong guitar Solos on youtube XLT comp 67-8+..enjoy..fz is still alive....
@Lankie89
@Lankie89 5 жыл бұрын
Found this by accident!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!
@jan_Travis
@jan_Travis 4 жыл бұрын
Sick! Be sure to check out the rest of Zappa if you haven't.
@boudierantoine912
@boudierantoine912 10 жыл бұрын
GREAT PRESTON ! AND ME !
@augustohenriques1753
@augustohenriques1753 5 жыл бұрын
FZ, the Best!!
@chuckjls
@chuckjls 10 жыл бұрын
Great vocals!
@liveoak144
@liveoak144 5 жыл бұрын
genius.
@stefannolte6603
@stefannolte6603 11 ай бұрын
thank you.
@michumichutek7215
@michumichutek7215 8 жыл бұрын
najlepsze kurwa ech bo nie moge najlepsza wersja bez slów żetam cośtam , dziekujęmimo ze na pamiec znam
@anAeijingBuffoon
@anAeijingBuffoon 6 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for that second guitar while Zappa is playing rhythm and I think it's Ian Underwood or Bunk Gardner on a clarinet...or a saxophone that certainly sounds like a guitar...
@earthrider2417
@earthrider2417 5 жыл бұрын
Jef ier it’s the sax
@trevorbarre5616
@trevorbarre5616 4 жыл бұрын
They obviously thought it was Zappa soloing,when it's Bunk and/or Ian on treated reeds. Same on the well-known OGWT show, when the camera pans around, totally clueless as to where particular sounds came from. Some bands like AMM sought this effect, but here its sheer incomprehension from the German crew?
@christopherpetersen9956
@christopherpetersen9956 3 жыл бұрын
OGWT SHOW?
@christopherpetersen9956
@christopherpetersen9956 3 жыл бұрын
Aha... Old Grey....of cource 😄
@bigtone1348
@bigtone1348 10 жыл бұрын
Such a shock to read about Roy Estrada spending the rest of his life in jail. Another hero deflated!
@GayleMI
@GayleMI 9 жыл бұрын
+bigtone1348 We'll always have his demented falsetto stylings.
@PaulPadoan
@PaulPadoan 6 жыл бұрын
Agree, just awful crimes.
@victorfellowes9339
@victorfellowes9339 6 жыл бұрын
I never realised what big ears he had.. like the love child of Spock and Prince Charles.. maybe love child is the wrong phrase to use here
@ProfJazz
@ProfJazz 5 жыл бұрын
What for - tell me
@scottconnors8419
@scottconnors8419 5 жыл бұрын
he was def a mentally ill person n abused himself,guy sure could thump the hell outta bass n added a certain thing to the mothers zappa laughed at alot, sad way things end for some,when the musics over.......bend...
@kenheinrich8859
@kenheinrich8859 Жыл бұрын
Hoping the cameramen would feature Lowell George at some point. He was onstage there somewhere though.
@trevorbarre5616
@trevorbarre5616 4 жыл бұрын
Great rhythm guitar from FZ though!!
@AndreaTich111
@AndreaTich111 3 жыл бұрын
I love this Frank Zappa with the real Mothers of Invention
@Raziel...Totenhorn
@Raziel...Totenhorn 5 жыл бұрын
Two tamburines. What a power.
@lidiaadelamalinescu6131
@lidiaadelamalinescu6131 2 жыл бұрын
Exceptional!!!
@maryshelleysman
@maryshelleysman 7 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Jim Sherwood does a solo on gas mask at the end. Nice!
@TheGumboVariator
@TheGumboVariator 7 жыл бұрын
2:23 Very "Grand Wazoo"-esque moment
@ChuckSchickx
@ChuckSchickx Жыл бұрын
Fair to say genius.
@Yazowl
@Yazowl 3 жыл бұрын
the sax and george duke .. they played like impossible things here
@kacperfornal5998
@kacperfornal5998 2 жыл бұрын
There is no george duke in this performane
@lucasmichaels8558
@lucasmichaels8558 9 жыл бұрын
I will always prefer the raw dada-esque original Mothers band to the later side-men who...while better technically...sounded too slick in a unpalatable vaudeville-ish kind of way. Just my two cents.
@GayleMI
@GayleMI 9 жыл бұрын
+Michael Lucas Agreed. As for technical superiority, I think the original Mothers could take the music places the later guys couldn't imagine. And while Bozzio & Wackerman, etc. might be better drummers, could either of them pull off a 'Lonesome Cowboy Bertram?'
@exentr
@exentr 7 жыл бұрын
I tend to say like Frank when he was asked who's the better guitar player. Vai or him. We are different, he replied. We are different. I just want to add, GayleMI, also 200 Motels and Uncle meat. On the other hand Jimmy Carl Black could never do Black Page for drums. Another epoque is Chester Thompson on drums. Last but not least imagine how much fun if The Mothers didn't dissolve.
@jabu003
@jabu003 7 жыл бұрын
well......... underwwod ,gardner, art tripp, don preston are NOT first class ?? REALLY ?
@donaldboyle242
@donaldboyle242 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone catch Ian Underwood playing the Sax with Wawa pedal?
@JsRf13
@JsRf13 5 жыл бұрын
2:23 as someone who has no idea, does anyone know how this guy got the baritone sax to sound like this? it almost sounds like it's pitched way the hell up and on a wah or something... ??? it sounds cool as hell
@LinktoLinkGamer
@LinktoLinkGamer 4 жыл бұрын
He has the sax hooked to a wah peddle.
@5jerry1
@5jerry1 3 жыл бұрын
@@LinktoLinkGamer ~ Pedal, not peddle.
@JsRf13
@JsRf13 2 жыл бұрын
@Mouse Fitzgerald wow, thanks for the attentive info! this is all really neat to read, I never knew these effect boxes existed. also looks like I need to learn my saxes lol
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