PELLET TEST - Tin Airgun Pellet v Lead Airgun Pellet - Hyperdome Vs Superdome .177

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AIRGUN PELLET TEST - Lead Vs Tin - Hyperdome Vs Superdome .177 - In this test I fire at 10m, 20m, and 30m with a Crosman Phantom, Air Air S200, Walther LGV and Daystate Air Wolf MCT to compare the accuracy between Tin air rifle pellets and Lead air rifle pellets.
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[@dwmaddawgs]

The ping pong test was almost the best demonstration of ballistic coefficient I've seen ❤

[@philiphodge4254]

Very interesting. If you’re doing pest control and asked to use lead free this answers that question.... NO! Excellent video... 👀👍🇬🇧

[@patty109109]

A really excellent review that you clearly spent a great deal of time on. Very interesting results, thanks.

[@denisatkins8548]

Another good video thank you. must admit returning to the air guns after a very long time away and I am finding these videos helpful. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[@AirgunGearShow]

Thats a kind comment, Thank You Denis. Regards Giles

[@michaelbritain5546]

30 meters with the phantom, those hyperdomes are a shotgun...glad you put me off buying any Giles...I'll be stocking up on lead, just in case.👍

[@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490]

Thanks Giles! another splendid video from Airgun Gear Show, fun to watch and informative!, keep on doing what You do so good, thanks Mate :D

[@emayrussell5841]

Hi Giles, excellent video test mate. Keep up the good work. cheers 👍

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

I have been training with steel BB’s and lead pellets in both .177 and .22 calibers for the last two years in various pistols and rifles to save on ammunition costs and shortages. I will be switching over to the tins on my next purchase.💪🏻🇺🇸

[@hoppobun7]

thanks Giles for another great video, lead pellets work well for me even the 50.15 grain ones in my .303 wolverine atb brian

[@TedsHoldOver]

Very pleased to see your Wolf back on its feet considering the soaking I gave it last fall. I didn't see my shadow once that week.

[@233NATOMAN]

Most enjoyable , fun video.Many thanks.

[@tf8974]

H&N Barracuda Green Shot fairly well in all the guns I've tried. Only tried out to 20 meters and groups were around an inch more or less in all the guns listed below. Keep in mind that I’m going from memory and my groups are always better upon reflection. One tip that helps accuracy is to clean the barrel when switching from lead to Tin. I had a hobby farm with ducks and this pellet is great for ratting without concern of lead and water fowl. How much energy is lost at distance, unknown as I didn't live up to your standards of testing. I will say that as these are hard pellets, they can over penetrate at shorter distance. I was able to reuse these often as it takes a lot to deform the pellet. .22 TechForce 89 Crosman Model 140 Crosman 1322 .177 Remington Nitro Piston

[@ianmangham4570]

Awesomeness

[@andysrange8789]

Great video Giles, lots of great info that was easy to take in :) + I liked the music over the top of the pellet testing ;)

[@theLizardof0z]

My .22 absolutely LOVES lead-free Predator GTO's. It shoots them better than any lead pellets I've tested. I feel as though, even despite the lighter weight, they are far more consistent on size and weight as compared to a tin of lead pellets.

[@basbosi123]

Excellent video and the idea of using several rifles for testing is good point. We'll done.

[@Deleba333]

Hi Giles, thanks for taking the time and effort to do the test but I noticed that the table that you shoot from has a hell of a wobble, does this influence the springers more than a pcp. Love your videos, greetings from Germany.

[@peterbaugh51]

Crosman guns seem to not like many pellets... Like crosman pointed or hollowpoint... Speaking as a 1377 owner, the RWS Superdome 8.3 grain are beating JSB 7.87's, just barely at 20 yards. And at almost 1/3 the price. Wow. 3/16" vs 1/4" at 60 foot bullseye, I prefer the RWS. A great hunting pellet for my little 1377 (3-9x 40mm AO Tasco Air Scope). Thanks for an informative video!

[@AngryAngryGunCompany]

I have used tin pellets in a smoothbore Crosman 1077, firing at a stainless steel bin lid at 30+ yards in the past and had a great laugh. But! For the life of me, i can not see them being useful any where else. Thank you for a very interesting video, going by the accuracy results at 30 yards i can see why the Air Wolf commands such a high price.

[@expressyourselfist]

You should be getting paid for your fantastic reviews,simply excellent! I shoot Walther LGV in .177cal, and heavier pellets are amazing to compare to light ones. I use Crossman Premier dome shaped pellets 10.4grain and I love the results.Hunting for rats at 25meters with head shots no problem.30meters target shooting with 1/2 inch groups no problem. In .22cal I was getting visible curved trajectory I did not like,no reason to have .22 cal really.

[@JudahMaccabee_]

Very informative. Thank you, Giles!

[@RightWingNutter]

Lately the tin pellets I’ve been able to buy are pressed into a plastic skirt. The slug itself is sized to ride the lands of the rifling. So I suspect your speculation about barrel wear is correct.

[@jagdtiger1945]

Great vid as usual, subd & liked. I would have covered the front of the Chrony though and filmed display from the side, the way those pellets were going! Cheers.

[@danielrichardson4197]

I think the hardness will mess up the barrel faster,good point ,I've tried light pellets versus heavy, heavy are more accurate they penetrate deeper and retain more every ,I have PCP 25 cal hatsan 28 grain bej domed almost made it through 3/4 inch pine at 70 yards I moved back 20 feet put 34 grain jsb and yes complete pass through about 78 yards ,heavier is better mines the at44 25 cal its getting 42 fpe with 34 grain going 745 fps love that gun also have the hatsan 125 sniper it getting 31 fpe and is accurate as well best air rifles I've ever owned

[@Wildchannel360]

Awesome video!! Would be superb to have more scientific videos like this one!

[@abelyerikaguerra1540]

My Diana 34 and Walther terrus both .22 love those RWS pellets....dime size hits....👍

[@peterbaugh51]

And my 1377 crosman 😉

[@300bhpton]

Thanks for the vid. I'd like to now how tin pellets compare for other uses though? Being harder there is an obvious higher risk of ricochet, which has to be a negative. But does being harder mean they have more penetrating power? If you are shooting plastic 2 litre Coke bottles or tin cans, maybe with a lower powered rifle. Would they have any advantage then? If not, I struggle to see the point in why they exist at all.

[@riverman9360]

I think that polymer skirted or shelled pellets are going to be very big players in the future, whatever type of metal is inside. The size consistency you can easily achieve with plastics surpasses what we should expect from mass-produced metal pellets. They don't get damaged in the tin, and they don't damage your bore. The types of plastics seem almost never ending, leading to lots of choices in what characteristics you want. I have a $45 air rifle at the moment, and nothing has given me greater consistency and penetration than the Crossman Powershot Fast Flights I get from the store in town. With lead pellets, I'm lucky to get an exit wound on starlings 15 meters away. About a week ago, a male and female lined up for me. The sabot design worked perfectly with the plastic part creating a large wound channel through the female, and stopping just below the skin at the exit wound, allowing the penetrator to pass on into the male. First time I ever pulled that off.

[@riverman9360]

Do I think that they'll completely replace 100% lead pellets? No. I'm just saying that I expect to see pellets with polymer exteriors become common place in the future. It'll still all depend on your airgun and on your needs.

[@piraten70]

Hi can you test the Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk 177 kal break barrel air rifle ?

[@abrahamf6124]

Great video, I would have loved to see the difference of penetration at all distances. I personally for my Benjamin 392 love gamo long distance bullet of 10 gr

[@petesargent8850]

What avoid the difference in loudness? I was hoping to hear that. How bad is the volume of the tin?

[@spicyhits]

Good test!! Would you please the same test with the .22 pellets? Do you think the similar results will be led?

[@hunter100t]

There is a reason why these type of pellets never caught on, so now they are trying to get us to use tin instead of lead, alloy failed miserably as will tin for the same reasons. good video though and thanks for sharing. phil

[@AirgunGearShow]

Thanks for watching. Giles

[@FireStormRunner]

What are the target dots you use that give an orange hue after shot? Good video thanks.

[@MrAvant123]

Well I was thinking of trying these tin pellets for my Remington Tyrant but now I wont bother as I get great groups with Excite Spike pellets. Most of my shots are towards the edge of the rifles range.

[@garybillington2239]

I watched something on How it's made ages ago about making pencils, they use a type of graphite slurry to make the inside, could they use the same slurry to make lightweight graphite based pellets, any thoughts giles ? I know it's quite an old post, perhaps someone already makes them

[@chalky3320]

iv just binned my 22 hyperdomes Giles as I found they were way way to unpredictable in both my pcp and springer and gone back to lead. I also worried about barrel damage as well. I'm now using promethious defiant 14 grain lead pellets and can't fault them to be honest as I get the medium size heads and they fit both barrels a treat.

[@AirgunGearShow]

I am surprised, I thought the slightly heavier hyperdomes may do better, but you may have saved me a test. Thanks for watching. Giles

[@steveparis5766]

If you think tin pellets suck, try cleaning your barrel. I could never get anything tin to group worth a damn. Then I cleaned my barrel. Whoa! What a difference. I think the lead deposits from shooting lead pellets previously really screws with tin pellets. With a clean barrel, I have several that group almost as well in my Gamos as lead. The Gamo Blue Flames, the Gamo Rapoors, Gamo Luxors, RWS HyperMax, and Gamo Airstar all group very well with clean barrels. I have duplicated these results in 3 rifles - all of which shot all tin pellets badly until cleaning. Even a brand new GAMO. It think maybe the manufacturing process leaves oils or something the barrel. I have not tested beyond 10 meters, but can say without a doubt that tin are very nearly as accurate as lead within 10 meters with a clean barrel.

[@jdmbraceyourself695]

Great video

[@ian-sc3fu]

As the tin is harder than lead, how does the tin pellet skirt cope with obturation when being pushed up the barrel by the air?

[@rickburnout666]

Ebay links dead, Not Found The requested URL /airgun-shop.html was not found on this server.

[@mintysgt]

Is there conclusion to weather or not using lead pellets, has a effect on the barrel

[@TheTabellarius]

A good demo Bismuth is a lead substitute with similar properties to lead. The problem with Tin is it will give a higher initial velocity those who shoot .22 Rimfire know that as a bullet goes super sonic around 1100 fps its flight becomes erratic then settles down after passing it. The reason Olympic shooters only use Sub Sonic Ammo.

[@ranhat2]

Delightful gentleman to visit or have visit. Overlong lead-in, of course, to be expected from a genial host. Trying tin pellets disappoints. Harder means difficult to get into breech/tube. And what about rifling wear has developed since 2014?

[@innFahrTwo]

yes the tin/ alloy has a higher FPS and it is better suited for pistols for short range at .177 calibre. But at .22 and higher the alloy will be heaver and you will get an advantage due to the cleaner tin vs lead, and with the higher velocity, high speed penetration with less tumbling. The lead of the same higher calibre will cause more shock due to mushrooming

[@TheCraigy83]

6gr tin wont make it out my 1.77 Webley nemesis dont even engage the rifling basically goes 2mm then needs knocking out with a bike spoke , but it fires 8.4gr lead at 410fps ,think the tin are to snug a fit for a 2.5fpe pistol

[@hunter100t]

Its the lands of the rifling that are stopping the tin pellet.

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

I mainly shoot at paper targets at 30-45 feet away indoors/outdoor mini ranges at my home. The lead pellets end up all over my yard and the indoors go into the city trash. Both leach lead into the water supply. I would be a good candidate for the tin.

[@robmule4647]

Don't be daft. Do you think that the lead flashing on all the houses 'leach' lead into the drains every time it rains?

[@tetherplus7029]

My hat is off to you. Very educational video, I really enjoyed it very much. Tell me the name of that music selection. Thanking You in advance.

[@JM10344]

Vary nice, thank you

[@krazor8]

i only have 3 air rifles atm, a hatsan 125 mod sniper,hatsan galatian, and hatsan bt65, all full weight lead pellets at high velocity, the only thing alloy pellets ever did for me was get noise complaints.. im in the u.s.

[@AirgunGearShow]

A nice collection of rifles. Thanks for watching. Giles

[@jameslincs]

Which 177 pallet is worst for penetration (making it best for target practice at 10m)

[@douglaswilson5273]

Hi will alloy pellets hurt your barrel. Thanks.

[@vonclod123]

I wonder if the tins are good for the barrel?

[@davidyummus6259]

Gamo made an 10 grain steel pellet with a nice long skirt called Silent Cat but I think they are gone now,... Shame because they were great.

[@andybrown8293]

I bought a sample pack of tin/alloy pellets and I shot at pellet holes at 30 yards resting the s400. BSA green stars did the best but the hyperdomes were appalling in accuracy and stability. Hn ftt non toxic were better and the green barracuda did not impress(strange as bsa green stars and barracuda look identical). I won’t be throwing my lead pellets away, in fact I might buy a load more!

[@558vulcanxh]

Very interesting,but please spare a thought for the vast majority of shooters here in the U.K. and give future tests in Imperial Linear Measure which we all use and can relate to. Metric linear measure is just an annoyance and a distraction to most. Remember:"Yards,feet,and inches are Miles BETTER !

[@breantargaryen2630]

does anyone know if they can fit into the hatsan nova???

[@charliehazlewood9975]

Really good interesting video

[@kmlok]

Excellent data collection Giles. My only request is maybe slightly less chintzy music next time you're needing a filler? I know you can't please everyone..😁. Enjoyed the vid keep up the good work.

[@harrygmarshall5157]

I liked the music!

[@parasar_the_destroyer]

You have thrown the heavier ball with a little more force hence it went a little bit longer.

[@aceliu5997]

the Ebay shop doesnt work anymore?

[@weirdscience8341]

In co2 guns lighter pellet the better for 10m target shooting

[@smj2010sj]

Have you thought about copper pellets

[@highlandrab19]

Please could you do an expansion test on each of those pellets (though I would assume the lead being softer would expand more?)

[@AirgunGearShow]

Yes, the lead is a lot softer. Thanks for watching. Giles

[@highlandrab19]

Yes but I was wondering do they make the neck of the diablo narrower to compensate for it being harder and thus make it collapse the same?

[@MrSparticus]

It would be interesting to try out depleted uranium pellets.

[@peterbaugh51]

They are awesome in my gun. They even glow in the dark.

[@ronduck2812]

My all time favorite song

[@Hockeyfan9884]

I may not ever get a reply but will ask. In the ten meter Olympic shooting competition with pellet rifles, what are the minimum and maximum feet per second. Thanks for any replies, greatly appreciated.

[@peterbaugh51]

600 fps generally.

[@v8pilot]

Where can I buy depleted uranium pellets?

[@LysergicCasserole95]

v8pilot try browsing the dark web 🙄

[@MrBlindbird]

DU pellets? why,are the squirrels in your area pantzered then? :-D

[@weirdscience8341]

Bae or Enfield might but you may want kids one day lol

[@topiaryterror2773]

I have a few... wink wink.. nudge nudge

[@metalmicky]

Helicopter rotor tips.

[@andersgrassman6583]

My main reason for interest in lightweight bullets, is that they are less wind sensitive. (sic!) Drift is proportional to time spent travelling = lighter bullet, higher speed = less drift. All things equal. Also, will give a flatter trajectory. Also, beware - you have to shoot 20 pieces after lead, before you get decent grouping, in my experience. A lot of development seems to be going on in lead-free pellets. I'm posting this in August 2019 - five years after this video. H&N Trophy green in my .22 Umarex Hämmerli 850 seem to work well at 25m, shooting "champagne corks" - though the rifle only has 7,5J energy - German legal limit. (Champagne corks are by the way great fun as floating water targets.) I've just ordered JSB and RWS Hyperdome to compare. My preferred standard reference is JSB Jumbo RS As for wear on the barrel, copper plated seem to be very hard as well.

[@robmule4647]

No, lighter faster pellets are more wind sensitive. Even though a heavier pellet is slower the weight makes more difference than the speed.

[@andersgrassman6583]

​@@robmule4647 Research the physics formula. The formula is also used for sideway drift of ships and boats. Mass only affects the vertical trajectory of our pellets. And a lightweight pellet will give a much flatter trajectory. So in theory, these lightweight pellets should be superior. However, so far, the ones manufactured, give a larger spread than the best leadpellets, many think.

[@robmule4647]

@@andersgrassman6583 it's certainly complicated and there is a lot to consider. A lighter pellet will obviously travel faster initially but it will loose its energy much quicker than a heavier pellet so fps at the target can actually be higher in the heavier pellet. Less time in the air to be affected is valid but the lighter pellet is affected more by the wind than a heavier pellet that isn't as easily blown off course.

[@ashleyjames6010]

This video was long before its time with the recent proposals on 100% ban on lead. Do you think you could maybe revisit the subject and base it on the lead ban and go through the alternatives avalible to the uk air gun population, not only for target but also quarry aswell.

[@Gixer750pilot]

I like the idea of these up to 15m when ratting around poultry or other livestock . You don't want ducks , chickens or pigs eating toxic lead left behind from misses or over penetrated pellets. Anglers switched to lead free shot decades ago . But the price has to come down. Also def Agee on barrel wear . If run becomes the norm, maybe barrels can be chrome coated like shotgun barrels to take steel shot.

[@longyx321]

What out 22 cal ?

[@dimasakbar7668]

i wonder though.... in that level of caliber, where the power doesnt depend on shell, and for that purpose (plinking, small game hunting)... why would anyone want to go LIGHTER (though i agree using a non-lead/less poisonous material is very desirable)

[@move177]

lighter pellets only make sense in lower powerd weapons. Try them in one of your umarex co2 pistols. there they will perform much better.

[@ronduck2812]

how do they know if you are shooting with gun over 12fpe like your vids good job im american one day it will be crazy gun laws here goog shooting

[@Ray2001ify]

sorry i never got to the end of the video coz my PC committed suicide due to the music in the video......but thanks for the vid.....i have tested so many pellets and i now only shoot crosman dome, the standard 7.9gr led

[@AirgunGearShow]

The music can put you in trance like state....be careful. Thanks for watching. Giles

[@maybug2000]

Giles, as much as I love you and your show if you ever play that "chinsey" music again I will come round and drink all of your tea, you have been warned! Other than Satan's music keep up the good work!

[@topiaryterror2773]

I will drink all the milks and eat all the sugars.. No Chincey.. !

[@saianilabbaraju1650]

Hi nice review and vedios I live in india here we have only 12ft-lbs so up to what grain pellets I can use in 22cal and 1.77cal I have both rifiles

[@4strength4stamleatherbeltl78]

+sai anilabbaraju1 In Brazil we are allowed up to .22 caliber bore. Says nothing about energy in the law. I suppose we could have a railgun that shoots a 22 caliber javelin. Too bad airguns are expensive as fok, just like proper firearms.

[@anonim-lq6fi]

+sai anilabbaraju1 12 ft-lbs is really low mate try to find 13 grain 22 cal pellets . Also cheap alloy and tin might be good for you , since high grain quality pellets wont do good with 12 ft lbs anyways .

[@saianilabbaraju1650]

+anonim thank you

[@ianmangham4570]

Jesus H Christmas av ya seen the price of the hyperdomes! 😃 It's hyper expensive

[@lewisdobson8905]

Crossman phantom was my 1st rifle and the s200 was my 3rd

[@AirgunGearShow]

Lewis, love that new picture of you !!! Thanks for watching. Giles

[@lewisdobson8905]

Thanks, it's a portrait Picasso painted of me.

[@piatas5]

Mine too ;) Well... my father's but shhh :P

[@lewisdobson8905]

Well my phantom was my first and then my dad had a bsa ultra and then I got a air arms s200

[@mongolloyd376]

Waiting on arrival of The Nomad make your own ammo kit looking for some one to do comparisons of other do it yourself kits like nomad, hint hint wink.

[@RigsbyPiggyBoy]

Does anyone know of any air gun clubs in Nottingham or Derby please!

[@hunter100t]

Look up Castle field target, Its a good club situated in a nice woods setting, good luck. phil

[@ratdog3055]

None of my springers like the alloy pellets. I think they might work better in very low powered guns (200-300fps). I agree with one of your other subscribers. How does the roundball work out?

[@anonim-lq6fi]

+Ratdog 305 Yep mine doesnt as well , spreading too much even from close range . I like H&N FTT .

[@bd1zzle]

how can you tell what your gun likes? as much as i would want to, i can't really go shooting often and don't have the spare cash to buy a ton of different pellets to test. i'm very new to air guns and i bought my first gun last week, springer, and i've been looking at videos and heard a lot of people say "this gun likes these pellets more so I'm using these ______." I bought daisy pointed pellets at about 7gr and i just bought H&N rounded at about 10gr because i heard rounded is better for overall stuff and i bought my springer for just plinking and hunting whenever i go camping or fishing.

[@ratdog3055]

Brian, Start with reading/watching the reviews of your gun. This will give you a general idea on which pellets it may like. Also Forums are great for this as well. And if you have others who shoot springers or pellet rifles, trade 5 or 10 for what they are using, a 5 shot group will quickly tell you what your gun likes. Also, Gamo and some others offer a selection of different pellets to try in one package. That might be your best bet

[@peterbaugh51]

RWS superdome field line domed pellets. Avoid pointed and fancy pellets.

[@m1dn1ghtf0x8]

The only thing I liked about the tin pellets was that they made a satisfying crack as they broke the sound barrier, apart from that they are really inaccurate.

[@peterbaugh51]

Thus the problem of light pellets breaking the sound barrier. They become unstable like all supersonic pellets.

[@SuperDixxxie]

Don't you do the balloon challenge anymore Giles or is it just down to the bad weather? atb Dixie

[@AirgunGearShow]

The balloon challenge, is, well a challenge, at nearly £1 a balloon and we must use nearly 50 for each video, with set up it is expensive. But things are in the pipeline......Thanks for watching. Giles

[@SuperDixxxie]

Quid a balloon, well that's inflation for you lol

[@AirgunGearShow]

Bloody brilliant answer....LOL.

[@SuperDixxxie]

Lol nice one, take I'll easy Giles

[@JoeZelensky]

I found an accurate tin pellet in .25. But non-lead does not expand, at all.

[@maggithemp]

I think those light Tin Pellets are not meant for high powered airguns like the daystate or AirArms. They are rather meant for the german market were free airguns are limited to 7,5 Joules of Muzzle Energy. I used some H&N Tin Pellets (same weight as the RWS) in my Weihrauch HW35 and they just work fine...

[@AirgunGearShow]

Really, thats interesting......did you shoot indoors, and at what range. Thanks for watching. Giles

[@zibbe1000]

sens you shand your setup i haven't seen the twig. where is hi ?

[@AirgunGearShow]

The Twig does a lot of testing.....he will be back....Thanks for watching. Giles

[@tamasbaranyai7851]

I made a very similar test a few years ago with a Ripley AR5 - JSB Exact Express vs. H&N Green pellets. Because of hm... interesting Hungarian weapon laws the muzzle energy my Ripley is just 7.5J (appr. 5.5 fps). the results was quite similar. Till appr. 20 meters the green pellets are quite OK, but over 20 meters the groups were horrible...:S Anyway the trajectory was very very flat...

[@taradarlow2236]

What is The difference between pellet calibers

[@bd1zzle]

the main difference is that a higher caliber pellet is bigger and and has a wider diameter than lower calibers like .177 and .22 compared to a .25 and .30

[@FeldwebelWolfenstool]

Why not Bismuth?

[@seanwilson471]

Can't hit a barn door with any of the gold, copper or tin pellets with my .22 gamo rifle. Wouldn't waste my money on them again. Best in my rifle are 14grn Bisley long range dome heads. Kill rabbits at 45yrds no problem. Also crossman pellets a little faster but not quite as tight as bisley. Bisley magnum 21grn group well too but the rabbits duck out the way, quite slow. My opinion is a ,177 rifle has the same power as a ,22. The larger calibre shoots well with 12 to 16 grain so try heavy lead domed at say 10grain your trajectory will be flatter than .22 but have some hitting power and should be well accurate ! Great channel tho, keep on plinking

[@Q3ToPBuZz]

Still don't fancy putting them through my barrels.

[@sportsandautomotives4739]

Sir my .177 rifle is = 800fps so ( HN baracuda mach 10.65 grain VS HN hornet 10.03 grain) pallets (rabbit hunting ) which better please reply 🤔 ? =

[@edgunwestLLC]

Why do us airheads keep bothering with any pellets except JSB. I have hundreds of pounds of worthless lead in my garage from experimenting with different brands of pellets. Nothing can equal JSB. Great video!

[@2lbsTrigrPull]

Exactly my experience too.

[@AirgunGearShow]

JSB have to be up at the top, but some rifles are very fussy.....Thanks for watching. Giles

[@pericodelospalotes5738]

+KS Airguns Some H&N models are the most accurate in some of my air rifles, for example my Cometa Fenix 400 in 6,35mm (.25) "hates" JSB King and "loves" Field Target Trophy. Of course all our national made Gamo pellets are bad. Testing JSB pellets first is a good idea but it doesn't always work. I'm a muzzle loader shooter too so all my bad pellets end up melted in .545 balls

[@peterbaugh51]

RWS superdome 177 may be new, but they beat jsb in my 1377 crosman by 1/16 " at 20 yards. They are cheaper too. Hard to believe!

[@kitcarson7572]

It is those darn rabbits. Yep the rabbits did it. Over here across the pond our cows run about saying eat more chickin'. Lol. Looks like the Rabbits have promoted those tin pellets. They feel quite safe and hope to convince all to use tin pellets. Cheers! Kit

[@MrSparticus]

Kit Carson Pond? what pond?

[@kitcarson7572]

Tony Tlusty I have a couple friends in the UK. To get there you must either fly or swim across the pond. Lol!

[@TheLordLaing]

I'll have the JSB/AA Field then. Or a weighted ping pong ball. Save your money and stick to conventional high quality lead. Couldn't be said enough times.

[@AirgunGearShow]

I have lost the weighted ping pong ball during filming.....did you take it?

[@TheLordLaing]

The most accurate projectile i've ever found, thanks!

[@salvatorepalamaro4535]

Mr-Laing !

[@jaxnean2663]

is there any risk of lead poisoning with lead pellets?

[@peterbaugh51]

Not if you follow directions.

[@abelyerikaguerra1540]

Helllooww Thereee....👍

[@juliezukie3584]

100% gold pellets alternative for lead and alloys

[@chrisreilly4006]

Has anyone actually had good luck shooting the RWS pellets? They are shaped so nicely, look high grade, but I never have been able to get them to shoot for shit

[@peterbaugh51]

RWS superdome 8.3 grain shoot 3/16" group at 20 yards with my 1377 scoped. Your mileage may vary.

[@chrisreilly4006]

@@peterbaugh51 Yes I know that. Of course there is so many variables. To many lol. It’s just that I’ve never, not once, out of any gun I own had the RWS shoot well. I ended up throwing them away. I’m glad you can get great groups off cheap pellets though man.