Sue Black In Conversation With Hallie Rubenhold

Join Professor Dame Sue Black as she breathes new life into the taboo subject of death. All That Remains: A Life in Death is out now: amzn.to/2uneteY
From advising crime writers on forensics for their novels to investigating mass fatalities due to natural disasters, Sue Black, one of the world’s leading anatomists and forensic anthropologists, has come to know the many faces of death. To celebrate the paperback publication of All That Remains, Sue will be discussing her life and career, using key cases to explore how forensic science has developed, and examining what her life and work has taught her. She’ll bring compassion, humanity and humour to the one thing we all experience. Sue will be in conversation with author and social historian, Hallie Rubenhold, whose book The Five, The untold lives of the women killed by Jack the Ripper is published this February. Init, she tells the story of the women killed by Jack the Ripper, dispelling the myths around them and giving a voice to the victims, focusing on their lives as well as their deaths.
Filmed at The Tabernacle, London with Penguin Live. Find more events here: bit.ly/2usaQUZ
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[@jeanmeslier9491]

A guy at work had been married about 2 weeks. His wife old him t hat they had to go to her brother''s funeral Saturday night. She said he was to bring his guitar. The guy was stunned, he had just seen her brother. It turns out her brother had some rare cancer or something that was killing him. He wanted to go to his own funeral and wanted everyone to come and have a good time. The guy said it was a great funeral, with barbecue and dancing. The guy sat in his coffin making wisecracks at the preacher. The brother died shortly thereafter. The guy told me that was the best funeral he ever attended and hoped he had the nerve to do the same with his.

[@JacGBoots1]

very unusual...

[@ludovica1914]

The brevity and acceptance!! Wow!! 🖤

[@sgrannie9938]

I agree death needs to be de-sanitized. We need to accompany those we love/who love us, for our sakes as well as theirs.

[@olwens1368]

Relieved to hear someone else sharing my feelings about staying away from doctors as long as humanly possible.

[@joypelligrino7705]

How re,freshing to hear my exact feelings with Sue. I overcome cancer 36 years ago, doctors can't believe it. I have a form of hemachromatosis which needs chelation, however no insurance will pay. My husband of 34 years left me, took my house and all my inheritance. I spent 20 years going to scientific convention, traveling to NY, Canada, Denver to get answers. Now I avoid doctors and take the best supplements and leave my life up to chance and never felt better. I refuse cancer check ups because if found I won't take treatments for cancer anymore. I don't want to be "medicalized" anymore and don't fear death. I am 68 and refuse living in fear,!

[@joydot7620]

You are remarkable

[@ruthrogers808]

@Joshua Grey oh

[@JacGBoots1]

@Joshua Grey living in fear then ?

[@jennifermassey6458]

I love Sue. Amazing woman

[@chrismac2234]

Sue Black my hero while in Kosovo. Her work while I was serving was awe inspiring in a sea of inhumanity.

[@lisalambrecht6676]

I’ve always enjoyed Sues talks! Enjoyed her series too 😊🇨🇦

[@jenniferholden9397]

Totally agree with Sue's attitude towards death, when my mum died I wanted her at home but no one else would let me! So I sat with her every day put her makeup on did her hair, put her favourite perfume on, I also put old cards she had kept for years. Then I put her pearls on, earrings and three strings with a pretty clasp that she kept in their box on her dressing table. Years later, watching Antiques Roadshow and there was 1 string of the same make of pearls as my mums, Mishimoto, they were valued at £8,000. I nearly fainted, I thought that they were from Woolies. Bugger.

[@JacGBoots1]

ohhh...sorry

[@blackwidor]

Haha that's funny about the pearls. ❤

[@mariamassey5468]

WHAT A TEACHER, WHAT A WOMAN X WHAT AN INSPIRATIONAL ROLE MODEL❤❤

[@brucevilla]

Thanks for Uploading.

[@heyokaempath5802]

I LOVE Sue Black!! So knowledgeable and fun!

[@sandragula4863]

The Body Farm does not allow “tours.” You must be an enrolled university student following a specific academic path. The University of Tennessee, I think, does not treat the Body Farm as a macabre attraction, but rather a respectful teaching/learning environment.

[@shellc6743]

Can't Hallie let Sue talk ? Sue is spot on ... I work with the dying.

[@gmr1241]

I had to stop watching. Much as I enjoy Sue's talks and interviews, this woman is Too Loud for me.

[@Malky24]

@@gmr1241 She comes across as a bit obnoxious here. She's obviously very intelligent but not a very good host.

[@angeliqueoren2462]

What an amazing woman!

[@raerae2589]

The Watts family, mom Shan’ann and Nico (coffin birth), her 2 daughters Bell and CeeCee (ages 3 & 4) were buried in separate places, was explained perfectly by Sue.

[@louisemerriman1079]

I love dame sue black

[@raerae2589]

My grandmother was on hospice for about a decade; however her dementia started to affect her 3-4 years earlier. I helped my mom throughout. I showered her daily until the last year. I cooked for her, but it was too much for me sponge bath her while she was in her hospital bed. I had always been comfortable with others deaths; but when it hit home it broke my heart. My paternal grandparents were always teetering on death, and always lived far away, so I felt in mourning for them my whole life.

[@JacGBoots1]

Loss is tough

[@guerrilla5002]

You showed great kindness to your loved one.

[@kashesan]

Especially pertinent today

[@heyokaempath5802]

Love Sue's curly ginger hair. I have the very same Scottish hair and ruddy complexion. People say I always look so jolly!

[@marycahill546]

Sue Black: hard nosed common sense.

[@rosemarybishop5776]

Death is one reason I haven't had children. Also, I'm vegan. But I'm grateful for those who can help those in need. She is very literate and mostly compassionate.

[@tipitii7388]

That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.. Not having kids because of death.. Jfc.

[@alisgray]

Kennewick man is still a controversy.

[@Jean-yn6ef]

💚

[@walther7147]

But how did we come to this attitude to the death?

[@tynellesharratt463]

Humans have this weird obsession with immortality!?! And because we don't have definitive answers to what happens when we die, our uncertainty creates fear. Humans see death as finality...and we just don't know if that is true. Also, somehow (particularly in western culture) we have made death bad, scary, ugly, something that needs to be hidden and not freely spoken about. It's sad.

[@JacGBoots1]

@@tynellesharratt463 Faith in God

[@blackwidor]

My attitude to death is normal because my people are waked.

[@johnzimmerman3021]

Ms. Rubenhold is brilliant and accomplished, but agonizing to listen to. She needs some serious voice coaching if she is to expand her career into interviewing.

[@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023]

Not everyone can sound like the BBC news readers. Maybe develop a bit of tolerance for human diversity?

[@bruggeman672]

Dame Black then come to Canada, where our gracious federal government has implemented MAiD or Medical Assistance in Dying. Not happy living in poverty due to disability? Here's your option.

[@ruthpearcey1440]

You are a fascinating woman Dame Sue Black and your accomplishments are to be commended. I pray however that you learn of your Creator before your death. There is an eternal life awaiting those who love God and accept Jesus as the Son of God who died for their sins.

[@maria-cc8uy]

Jesus saves Not religion.

[@flufwix]

Very disappointed to hear a scientist who wants the public to believe scientific evidence in court be so dismissive of medical science. Why would a person believe your scientific opinion when you don’t have the equivalent respect for a different branch of science and in fact makes a gross generalization that GPs look to diagnose regardless of facts without any scientific evidence whatsoever. My regard and respect for you has diminished considerably

[@leyniaLip]

My understanding was not that she didn't believe in medical science, but that she did not want to participate in some of it--general practitioner--or maybe she meant of any of it.I would have to listent again to be sure. She wants her life to run its course, whatever that is. Or perhaps only that she doesn't want a GP to search for problems but I think the former. She sees her role as a mom fulfilled now. I did not take her to say that doctors fabricate problems.

[@suzannetevlin8439]

The blonde bobble head is out of her depth.

[@raerae2589]

She was a wonderful advocate for the Ripper victims; she’s not a host 🙄. Read her book before you pass judgment. Not everyone can prepare to be Oprah.

[@marilynbenn2083]

Would you make the same comment of a man in same position? Nope.

[@johnzimmerman3021]

@@marilynbenn2083 Yes, actually. This has nothing to do with sex. Ms. Rubenhold is brilliant and accomplished, but agonizing to listen to. She needs some serious voice coaching. AND, the sound engineer needs to be slapped on the back of his head for not using a voice compression circuit. If her voice peaks were lowered and the lows were amplified a bit the interview would have been more tolerable.

[@tarcisiasiniscalchi6641]

Overall, I like Sue Black, but saying, “death is part of life” is stupid, trite, and useless. The interviewer used that idiotic and unoriginal thought-terminating cliche and Susan Black is sort of endorsing it. Saying that death is part of life doesn’t make death less tragic and sad. Just because death happens to everybody, doesn’t make it desirable. There is a type of defeatist attitude among people that is termed “deathism.” People claim that death is natural and desirable. That’s bullshit. If people stopped telling themselves lies (like that we will all go to heaven) and believing in imaginary gods, we could use our energies on science to make radical life extension a reality. Radical life extension is absolutely possible. There are organisms that live up to 800 years and have negligible senescence. In order for that to become a reality, the first essential step is that we must stop glorifying death and adopting a passive, defeatist stance. We must recognize that death is tragic, no matter what lie you tell yourself. We must realize that bringing a child into this world is a selfish act because the only inheritance you are giving your child is death. Not all deaths are equal. Someone dying in his sleep at 99 is not comparable to someone being chopped into pieces at 19 by the cartel. Sue Black says that fearing dead people is nonsensical. What a stupid comment. It serves an evolutionary purpose. We are programmed to fear corpses and anything that might harm us. It’s innate behavior and not learned.

[@catzkeet4860]

Sorry but you're wrong. Death Is a part of life. We are born, we live and then we die and no amount of whining will change that. Certainly we mourn deaths to our closest, but that's natural...... We mourn if we have to leave to live elsewhere, and death is the ultimate leavetaking, but there's no need to make death into a huge, scarey thing. It doesn't have to be, but I can tell you, with you attitude fear of death is almost inevitable...... Which is daft because its STILL gonna happen.

[@tarcisiasiniscalchi6641]

@@catzkeet4860 yours is a very defeatist and abysmally ignorant attitude. Whining doesn’t change the outcome, but saying that death is part of life is useless. Death is very tragic. Just because it happens to everyone, it doesn’t mean it’s less tragic

[@tarcisiasiniscalchi6641]

@@catzkeet4860 the only daft thing here is you. The point is not that it’s gonna happen. You cannot repress legitimate fears. For Christ’s sake, our entire existence is a struggle to survive

[@bruggeman672]

@Tarcisia Siniscalchi perhaps if you'd listened instead of jumping to write your comment you would have heard the rest of the response, which goes far beyond the single sentence which appears to have set you off so aggressively.

[@tarcisiasiniscalchi6641]

@@bruggeman672 take your “perhaps” and stick it where you know. I have even read her book. Her deathism is stupid