"People aren't honest" 🤬 Haskell says it's 'utter madness' Eddie Jones was sacked as England boss

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@MickJaggerr1
@MickJaggerr1 2 жыл бұрын
“Rugby is run by old school people “ pretty much the biggest problem with Rugby right now
@maxwellfan55
@maxwellfan55 2 жыл бұрын
Crap. They've been saying that for the past 50 years, through big wins and losses.
@jimsainsbury2514
@jimsainsbury2514 2 жыл бұрын
I like haskall but I completely agree with you
@johnlewis9745
@johnlewis9745 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be. But since the day it became professional those days are gone. Money talks and the demise of Worcester and Wasps proves that. If a coach doesn’t produce the goods, then someone new should be given the job.
@hunterluxton5976
@hunterluxton5976 Жыл бұрын
English rugby you mean.
@pietbliksem
@pietbliksem Жыл бұрын
Sorry can't agree with that. The old school are merely trying to cleave to the old amateur spirit of the game.The problem is the professional era. The stakes are infinitely higher than in the 'old school' days and manipulating results is a much more profitable enterprise than ever before.
@pietbliksem
@pietbliksem 2 жыл бұрын
As a South African I can't help but feel sorry for Eddy Jones. He is an enormously good and successful coach with a track record that few can compare with. As a SA supporter I can admit of never being certain of the outcome of an England vs SA game as long as he's been coach. That includes the recent games up to and including Twickenham. Obviously he's not to blame for Englands form; especially against the top sides in the world. So why fire him now with the world cup looming? Is it because he's Aussie or is he just the most convenient scapegoat? The worst thing England can do now is to ditch Eddy Jones without someone better to replace him, and that's exactly what the RFU are doing.
@vernonrhoda8276
@vernonrhoda8276 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you but he has never had the upper hand in cup rugby against the boks. Just didn't. It aint the coach thats the problem, it's england are simply not world beaters. They are good, and a good day, who knows. Cup rugby requires you to be solid and consistent. I'm hopeful for the boks this cup, because it feels like there is a consistency building there...and showing. England needs to get a damn english coach. Need this to grow the culture etc. etc. Nothing wrong with eddie, good caoch forsure, but that final margins you need, he cannot provide as an ozzy.
@lanceelliott1145
@lanceelliott1145 2 жыл бұрын
Saffer here..England needs a 100% overhaul of their front rowers. Once that's sorted the backs will function again. Their weak forwards makes things difficult for the backs, they are stuck between a defensive and offensive mindset = confusion and sloppy play. Are the Wngland forwards carrying a bit too much muscle for their frames ? Being big is important but there's a fine line between carrying tio much bulk and carrying moderately lean mass like the Boks. In a 50 minute game Eng firwards might be ok, but not 80. The Bulls were like that a few years ago. Scariest, biggest guys but always faded in the second half. If Eng can't find fresh front rowers, maybe get them to drop a few and up cardio- opinion. Good luck England 👍🏻.Ps: Only Frans Malherbe can eat all he likes and still dominate.
@spiritdancer1699
@spiritdancer1699 2 жыл бұрын
You are without doubt the best team in the world right now. So we lost to the best team in the world big deal, I don't know why that is worthy of sacking him.
@westsideAUKILANI
@westsideAUKILANI 2 жыл бұрын
England just bring who they are, arrogant pricks. I don't want any Southern Hemisphere coach to coach them ever again
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
@@spiritdancer1699 doesn‘t seem that way tho, does it?
@carlaspinall7418
@carlaspinall7418 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in shock Eddie has gone I've bin a big fan of English 🏉 it's a shame
@LinnyRaven
@LinnyRaven 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell was given a last chance to play for England by Jones when his international career seemed over, so it's understandable that he has stayed grateful and loyal to him
@danielebowman
@danielebowman 2 жыл бұрын
But also Haskell played superb Rigbu for Eddie Jones, which illustrates why he rates him.
@LinnyRaven
@LinnyRaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielebowman Yes, he certainly has personal reasons for supporting Jones
@09hunterboy8
@09hunterboy8 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinnyRaven yeah and he is Englands most successful coach ever , been to two WC finals , won a WC as an assistant with SA , won a Super Rugby Tournament, beat SA with Japan … but England have a better coach at the moment 9 months before a WC lol
@LinnyRaven
@LinnyRaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@09hunterboy8Yes, he definitely achieved impressive things up to the 2019 WC
@unclefester831
@unclefester831 2 жыл бұрын
@@09hunterboy8 Last time I checked it was Clive Woodward that won England’s sole rugby World Cup back in 2003. Nobody really cares about 2nd place. Michael Cheika took his nation to the final in 2015 but still came up short.
@stevenshaw6766
@stevenshaw6766 2 жыл бұрын
In all the years since rugby turned professional, the rest of the international teams have advanced and changed accordingly apart, from the RFU. James has hit the nail in the head by saying that the RFU is still being run by the old school tie brigade. To sack the head coach 9 months before a WC is madness.
@blaquenguni9249
@blaquenguni9249 2 жыл бұрын
As a South African I wanna agree with Haskell, BUT Eddie has ignored far too many inform/red hot premiershuo Premiership players. And the players he's been so loyal to are the ones who have been dreadful and uninspired. Had he picked 5-6 of the hottest players in the Premiership, the results might've still been poor, but you would've seen improvement every 5 tests they play
@2011hwalker
@2011hwalker 2 жыл бұрын
100% correct. Haskell is so bias.
@thewomble1509
@thewomble1509 2 жыл бұрын
@@2011hwalker Biased.
@nickrad6966
@nickrad6966 Жыл бұрын
Rassie is exactly the same…
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
@@nickrad6966 totally
@franko2053
@franko2053 Жыл бұрын
Nope England had an great chance in this world cup and Eddie knew that. He already had the team, he was just biding time. He didn't need to rebuild. So what, so England was't that hungry for W in between the world cup. But experience teams can lift their game when it counts and England only needs to do that for 3 games, of which they will most likely face Argentina, Wales and Australia with a tired opponent in the final. Ireland peaked too early again and France will need to beat SA, NZ or IRE consectuvely just to end up in the final. Borthwick is an Englishman that looks like he'll get the England squad to believe, add some dogged fighting spirit in the team so that they can grind out wins. So I can understand the RFU thinking, but it is a gamble to drop a tactical genius that historically excells in one off games. Essentially England need one great game like their 2019 semi-final but this one will be in the final. And they dropped the best guy for that. And will probably lose to Australia in the semi-final.
@scentrailstation1780
@scentrailstation1780 2 жыл бұрын
Eddies selections were simply bizarre in past few years. His winning stats were good prior to that
@maldarkangel
@maldarkangel 2 жыл бұрын
He was experimenting ...
@scentrailstation1780
@scentrailstation1780 2 жыл бұрын
@@maldarkangel What by picking golden oldies? He didnt experiment enough. He needed to build a new team but got stuck picking the same old players past their best. Youngs, May, Vunipolas etc
@williamhauser3686
@williamhauser3686 2 жыл бұрын
Haskel makes some great points, and I have a ton of respect for Jones and all he accomplished. But, it was time to move on. It's like he never recovered from the 2019 world cup loss and it's been a downward trajectory ever since. I wish Eddie Jones the best and am grateful for all he gave us. Thank you.
@contrarian717
@contrarian717 2 жыл бұрын
Good comment 👌
@garysmith2983
@garysmith2983 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@JohnyTuff1
@JohnyTuff1 2 жыл бұрын
Its the timing, less than a year before a WC
@williamhauser3686
@williamhauser3686 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnyTuff1 I agree with you, I'd rather have waited to say part and say goodbye.
@AllThings101
@AllThings101 2 жыл бұрын
This
@paulbennett2929
@paulbennett2929 2 жыл бұрын
Well argued but unfortunately TV footage of England's matches since RWC 2019 exists.
@maxwellfan55
@maxwellfan55 2 жыл бұрын
Too right mate. It's been a disaster.
@kristianmitchell9723
@kristianmitchell9723 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe they've sacked Eddie Jones. Really gutted to see him go. Deserved another crack at the world cup! Interesting opinion from Haskell "Pressure from fans and media" does sound right, because I can't comprehend why the RFU have done this. World cups on the horizon... Only 9 months to go 🏉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@paulchristopher8634
@paulchristopher8634 2 жыл бұрын
Results have not been good enough unfortunately
@maxwellfan55
@maxwellfan55 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulchristopher8634 Results have been more like ...shocking.
@michaelbuettner1487
@michaelbuettner1487 2 жыл бұрын
Rugby league is a better all round sport , union is just private school posh brats I refuse to watch it anyway
@willempretorius6700
@willempretorius6700 2 жыл бұрын
As a Springbok Fan I'm delighted. This effectively take England out of the RWC 2023 as a serious contender. England was dangerous under Eddie. Yes he was erratic, but he was always up to creating big upsets when it counted. Imagine Rassie Erasmus hire him for that RWC 2023 campaign....
@MiniMatthew
@MiniMatthew 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gutted he's gone considering how on paper easy englands pool stages are :/
@nikpawlowski3610
@nikpawlowski3610 2 жыл бұрын
As an English rugby fan I am delighted. Jones thinks Owen Farrell is a centre! Haha
@headintheclouds6935
@headintheclouds6935 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikpawlowski3610 he went at undefeated at centre for the lions in 2017. He clearly played well there
@nikpawlowski3610
@nikpawlowski3610 2 жыл бұрын
He played fly half in the first test, but was also surrounded by a good some world class players, unlike England at the moment.! Jones has almost ruined Farrell international career, by playing him out of position. No other international side would he make centre I doubt.
@cullyx2913
@cullyx2913 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@reflectingtrees
@reflectingtrees 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, it's madness.
@mgbdub2007
@mgbdub2007 2 жыл бұрын
Totally Tone deaf by Haskell. The vast majority of fans just want England to play well and be competitive in EVERY game. Not just for a few weeks every 4 years.
@sunnysamuel7544
@sunnysamuel7544 2 жыл бұрын
England aren't that good
@Mike-ym6rl
@Mike-ym6rl 2 жыл бұрын
As a Saffa, I feel firing of Eddie Jones is the most ridiculous and devastating decision that could happen to the England team. Ten months before the RWC changes of this magnitude are made!? There are people of influence out there who have no idea the amount of work and organization that goes into building an international squad. If Eddie should decide to head the Australian squad, beware RWC 2023, as they are on a roll.
@maverick4177
@maverick4177 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t you worry Sout Piel, England won’t be going anywhere You need to worry about your SA ageing dinosaurs and a hopeless coach
@tigerclarence1248
@tigerclarence1248 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t agree with Haskell saying there was nothing wrong with the team I was at twickers for 3 of the 4 autumn internationals and the rugby was boring and predictable, plus I watch Marcus smith play fast go forward rugby with harlequins which he’s not aloud to do with England I like Eddie Jones but it was definitely time for a change
@AC-hu3xk
@AC-hu3xk 2 жыл бұрын
As a South African fan , I must say brilliantly spoken James wow!! 100 % agree..
@michaelbuettner1487
@michaelbuettner1487 2 жыл бұрын
Rugby league is the better sport time to switch codes ppl
@themanabroad7800
@themanabroad7800 2 жыл бұрын
I always like Eddie, love Hask and thought he summed this up really well, didn’t mince his words which is why I like him.
@roykyme5558
@roykyme5558 Жыл бұрын
And for the last four years England have gone absolutely now where ,terribly to watch this doesn't seem to be a coach who is moving the team forward.
@barrysheridan9186
@barrysheridan9186 2 жыл бұрын
As an England fan since the early 1960's I must say I am surprised Eddie Jones has been sacked. I thought he has done well, even if latterly the team seem to have gone off the boil. Not sure if that all can be Eddie's fault.
@jayaychare7318
@jayaychare7318 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly I would like to say it’s great news that Haskell has emerged from his coma of 2 years with full speech . But things have changed on England rugby front and he needs to watch back the last few years footage Jones shock win for Japan v SA has no bearing on this England team. It’s all about current form and last two years have been guff alongside some questionable team selections Scotland will be gutted . They’ve never had a better run of form v England
@rickphillips5098
@rickphillips5098 Жыл бұрын
One thing you just smashed is the fans at Twickenham!! You need a loan to go for a day out ! You have to have a mate to get a ticket for a decent seat ! Those 2 young lady's on dates with there prospective boyfriends ( in front off me ) did not even acknowledge there was a game going on ! Nor did the prospective husbands! I know ist supply and demand! Sadly 2 tickets to watch Argentina 2x£115 plus 2 x£80 ( train fair ) 2x £14 ( burger and drink) . Without anything else !! Is why Twickenham will have no heart !! Its now for the rich only ... Best the England rugby team get used to playing at home with those that are only there to tell there freinds what they did at the weekend 🙄.
@coniferclose
@coniferclose Жыл бұрын
Great comment, couldn’t agree with you more.👏🏻👏🏻
@emgee_eegme
@emgee_eegme 2 жыл бұрын
At no point in this diatribe does Haskell talk about the garbage Jones's England rugby team have been churning out for the last two years - while mostly losing. If the selections and performances were positive but England were still losing then people would have given Jones time but the performances are terrible and he's not picking players in form. It's diabolical. Haskell was a very limited player and he's got a very limited intellect, Jones had him in the palm of his hand, no wonder he's a Jones shill.
@philiphurst831
@philiphurst831 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@philmckinley696
@philmckinley696 2 жыл бұрын
James I could get a 90% winning record with the 35 squad players we have. I paid good money to watch the last three games and there was no game plan and the performance was lack lustre. He was past his sell by date. I would agree with you as there is no one to take his place.
@2011hwalker
@2011hwalker 2 жыл бұрын
totally true. Why has Haskell has avoided the truth england have looked poor in successive 6Ns.
@Ray67456
@Ray67456 Жыл бұрын
This didn't age well.
@BelloBudo007
@BelloBudo007 Жыл бұрын
As an Aussie Rugby supporter, please allow me to say 'Thank you England'.
@gwh3013
@gwh3013 Жыл бұрын
How's it going skippy?
@BelloBudo007
@BelloBudo007 Жыл бұрын
@@gwh3013 Entertaining mate. Entertaining.
@manonthebike2205
@manonthebike2205 Жыл бұрын
​@@BelloBudo007And last night was - entertaining? Good luck having him. Whatever coach any country has, I love watching great games (of rugby!). It's just that some coaches make it a challenge for their players, and as many have said throughout the comments and replies to this video, I'm sure that there are plenty of players who balance that. Looking forward to this year's WC, bring it on. Go well.
@garyambrosini1427
@garyambrosini1427 7 ай бұрын
​@@BelloBudo007 as an England rugby fan, please allow me to say hahahahaha
@BelloBudo007
@BelloBudo007 7 ай бұрын
@@garyambrosini1427 Permission granted.
@MrGJCURRAN
@MrGJCURRAN 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, James. Exactly right. We had a similar run-up to the WC in 2018, and it all pretty much panned out well.
@jeremysmith8894
@jeremysmith8894 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell would say this, Jones backed him massively at the end of his playing career and got him playing his only period of effective international rugby. If he couldn’t see the deteriorating team over the last 2 years, Haskell ceases to become a relevant commentator. “Biased journalists “ and “grumpy fans”?? Do us a favour James and get back to your mirror!!
@ThePereubu1710
@ThePereubu1710 2 жыл бұрын
"Just because some grumpy old journalists and some miserable fans decided to get rid of him" - No Mr. Haskell, just because of some terrible selection choices, questionable tactical decisions, self-parody press conferences, a complete lack of genuine contrition and no signs of improvement (as distinct from, for example, Ian Foster and New Zealand). That's why. Eddie Jones has a particular skill which is to develop teams. What he is not capable of is sustaining that over the long term. Whether it's his management style which, over time, has a negative effect or whether it's his unwillingness to listen to anyone else, I can't say but it's clear from the last 2 years that England, led by Jones, is not the same quality team that won the World Cup semi-final in 2019.
@tonymatthews6928
@tonymatthews6928 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Never heard him comment before. This is a well-informed well-argued postion. This bloke shold be running the RFU!
@garethjenkins1403
@garethjenkins1403 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense is cheap but worth a great deal. Well said. Years ago whilst on a ski holiday with a group from an English rugby club who watched a home nations game against Scotland. After England lost the English supporters went from delusional 'we are expecting all' to walking out early from the game and turning on the England team at the drop of a hat. It's not a criticism just an observation. After chatting with them they acknowledged it and put it down to living in the moment rather than living in the history of the game no matter what come what may. To be honest I'd say why not. Fair weather as Haskell says but no bother, less stress, fun times and longer lives. You could of been Welsh and suffering Pivac demolishing your heritage. Count your blessings 🤣
@phil1edinburgh
@phil1edinburgh 2 жыл бұрын
But Jones has used tons of players, got rid of players suddenly, and lost 7/12 last manages. As for 6 nations he has been recently terrible .
@domsmith5065
@domsmith5065 2 жыл бұрын
As rambling and confused a monologue as I expected from Haskell. JH says “I’m at a loss as to why they’ve done it”. Really? Post 2019 WC England have been all over the place. Eddie’s burned through dozens of coaches and so many players it’s remarkable. It’s a mess. Haskell was part of an England team at rock bottom who completely bought into Jones’ style. But governing like that for six years seems to have taken its toll on a lot of players involved with Eddie. Just look at the calibre of players going to France right now…
@coniferclose
@coniferclose Жыл бұрын
Top comment pal.👏🏻👏🏻
@manonthebike2205
@manonthebike2205 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis and summary. I think it was NZ coach Steve Hansen (pls correct me if I'm wrong) who said something along the lines of "if [as a player - All Black] you listen to the fans, you're destined to join them in the stands". Great interview thanks.
@nikpawlowski3610
@nikpawlowski3610 2 жыл бұрын
Jones had more talent at his disposal, although a lot of said talent played one test or so. The riches union behind him. Please no excuses. He sacked, or bullied some of the best coaches, in rugby. So many that he’s run out of world class coaches. No sympathy.
@nikpawlowski3610
@nikpawlowski3610 2 жыл бұрын
NZ should have him 😂
@manonthebike2205
@manonthebike2205 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikpawlowski3610 You should limit your generosity.
@DominoEffect2528
@DominoEffect2528 Жыл бұрын
Well he definitely didn't listen to the fans and he's in the stands.
@thebossman4875
@thebossman4875 Жыл бұрын
Nah that was Wayne Bennett
@christopherhindle1174
@christopherhindle1174 2 жыл бұрын
James Haskell did not address the issue of why so many assistant coaches have left, presumably because they could not work with EJ? The players have no choice, if they want to be selected, they just have to keep their mouths shut and do as they are told, often seemingly implementing a game plan that does not suit their talents or what they see in front of them as a game progresses.
@mauricerobertson1944
@mauricerobertson1944 2 жыл бұрын
Eddie Jones will be on the coaching staff for South Africa during 2023 World Cup.
@kingkongsson1
@kingkongsson1 2 жыл бұрын
The coaching staff yes but not the main coach , there's a big difference. Jones has brought England nothing since world cup . No evolution . What I've seen is when he takes over he makes a huge positive influence for a couple of years , after that he seems to struggle. Maybe he's best at part of the coaching staff like with South Africa, who knows . His player picks are the other issue. Farrell is not a world class centre , not fast nor powerful in that position put with a past his prime tuilagi who may pull out a performance every now and again , it's not good enough . Billy v another past his best still being picked when we have some serious quality no.8s not being given.much of a chance. Mako can't scrummage against the very best , marler is the one to pick v south Africa etc etc etc. Since that world cup loss he changed, wanting to play more like South Africa, we haven't the players to play that way . The boks are from a gene pool all of there own lol that's why they're so good at what they do.
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 2 жыл бұрын
4 of the 6 coaches that Hask mentioned as high quality, learnt their trade from a man who's in the Premiership and is Nine wins from Nine Mark McCall is a way better coach that Borthwick. As a Sarries fan i'm really glad he gets ignored by the British Press.
@MichaeldeSousaCruz
@MichaeldeSousaCruz 2 жыл бұрын
Easy to be great when the owner cheats 🤷‍♂️
@AJP-kf7wq
@AJP-kf7wq 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaeldeSousaCruz as i understand things, most clubs bend the rules so careful what you say, look at Wasps and Worcester for how bad things can turn out without an owner who actually cares about the club
@MichaeldeSousaCruz
@MichaeldeSousaCruz 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJP-kf7wq you think cheating is caring? Huh?
@AJP-kf7wq
@AJP-kf7wq 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaeldeSousaCruz what i said is that most clubs are bending the rules, some owners because they care about the club and its staff and some, dont and want as much out as possible
@MichaeldeSousaCruz
@MichaeldeSousaCruz 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJP-kf7wq you’re still advocating cheating as caring. Strange
@coniferclose
@coniferclose Жыл бұрын
If I was paying £135 + for a ticket I would want to see top class rugby. Thankfully I stopped going a while I go. Top price for standard rugby in my opinion and results back that up.
@mattmarchant8931
@mattmarchant8931 2 жыл бұрын
At least, someone who talks sense. Love James Haskell
@roscokillian
@roscokillian 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell just said at the end that Borthwick will “come in and will absolutely take them on and this will be a catalyst for England to get better.” Yeah thats right, Jones has lost the dressing room. As an Irish fan I’m very disappointed that Eddie was sacked, we would have turned over England again in the six nations under Eddie Jones. Now we have to wait and see what England is like under new management, maybe as Haskell says they will be better! Bring back Eddie
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
exactly, Eddie was arguably the best thing to happen to Ireland
@simonhague2674
@simonhague2674 2 жыл бұрын
Good interview, I agree, Eddie's a very good coach but performances have been poor for at least two years, his selections continue to puzzle everyone but Haskell makes the point well that his biggest problem is that he's been unable to retain coaching talent and now with the ongoing turnover, can't attract the right people to work with him - IMO you just have to look at Smith and Farrell - Neither of them play anything like as well for England as they do for their clubs and a coaches main job is to get the best out of the talent available to him... in this Eddie has failed. Sorting out the RFU is a much bigger issue...
@seanyshepfit
@seanyshepfit 2 жыл бұрын
Eddie didn't fit into the English system. He spoke his mind and didn't back down. That's it.
@davidfarrell2254
@davidfarrell2254 2 жыл бұрын
Hask speaking some truths - good man
@wjhd6823
@wjhd6823 2 жыл бұрын
Should have said all this BEFORE he was sacked really shouldn't you Hask?
@ryantill8717
@ryantill8717 2 жыл бұрын
Blaming one guy who's track record is impeccable for the down fall of a team 🤦‍♂️
@andrewcavenagh9016
@andrewcavenagh9016 Жыл бұрын
England made no progress under Jones since the 2019 WC final. Stayed loyal to favourites whose form had fallen away, and he was too stubborn to change.
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 2 жыл бұрын
No consistency of selection or tactics. He completely lost the plot over the last couple of years.
@jameslong7128
@jameslong7128 Жыл бұрын
This aged well Jimmy my boy. Still think it was madness?
@kjb6637
@kjb6637 2 жыл бұрын
Love Eddie or hate him, this is a stupid move by RFU 3 months from the 6Nations (let alone 9 months from the RWC). Borthwick would be good though, met him in Japan. Seems like the only man for the job 9 months out - he knows the team, he’s been working with it closely and I wouldn’t be surprised if he uses the Eddie playbook to give us a fighting chance…
@liamhandcoaching
@liamhandcoaching 2 жыл бұрын
Although I credit Eddie Jones for the first 2 years and the World Cup performance, he's lucky that he wasn't sacked earlier. The results and performances simply haven't been acceptable given the huge resources at his disposal. It's nothing to do with him not conforming. Haskell is playing down how poor the last 12 months have been on the field. There have been no signs of progress at all.
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he could‘ve been sacked after Ireland trounced England to win the grand slam in 2018. They‘d just lost 4 on the bounce and would go on to lose 2 more straight after.. And again after the 2021 & 2022 6N where they only barely scraped 3 wins from 5. It had been pitiful for a good while..
@liamhandcoaching
@liamhandcoaching Жыл бұрын
@@karlosdeevs very true, 2018 was abysmal. Two awful results against Scotland at home in the last few years as well, including the first defeat to them at Twickenham for 40 odd years
@dc9102
@dc9102 2 жыл бұрын
Tell it like it is James.
@christopherduncan1552
@christopherduncan1552 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Haskell seems to have overlooked the fact that, given the ticket prices, Twickenham fans they have a right to expect to be entertained, preferably by a victory for the home team. England's performances were dull, lacked flair, imagination, and endeavour. This surely can only be a coaching issue and it is not good for the sport we (try to) love.
@patrickleonard315
@patrickleonard315 Жыл бұрын
He got sacked because England have been crap since the World Cup not because of fans
@johntrew1597
@johntrew1597 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on . Removing Jones by the RFU is stunningly stupid & we can kiss goodbye to any WC chances now. Madness, madness.
@DominoEffect2528
@DominoEffect2528 Жыл бұрын
Why, because England got completely dismantled by SA at home. Why would that result be any different in a WC?
@thewielloyd988
@thewielloyd988 Жыл бұрын
I was totally with Hask until he said "I was actually in Dubai DJing the last couple of days"
@gerardglines2566
@gerardglines2566 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree constantly playing players out of Positions .He is losing games because of lack of speed size age knowledge that adjusting to playing players on the field out of position takes time .WE are both back nO 8 row players aware of the fly half being over used unable to combine backs with forwards destroying when two are on the pitch the wingers ability to run with the ball and the pack with useless kicking .So neither forwards or backs get to have a say on the field except defended behind the gain line when its too late to be any use .
@fruitychink
@fruitychink 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct Mr Haskell . England are a good well coached side who were beaten narrowly by teams of the same calibre . Being beaten by Scotland is not a biggie because we play out of our skin when playing England , I think England have made a huge mistake . Jones is not perfect but he has done a huge job with England . I hope we can have a competitive 6 Nations .
@thewomble1509
@thewomble1509 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@andrewmcarthur1009
@andrewmcarthur1009 2 жыл бұрын
Madness and Numptys is the only description you can have off the RFU. GET THEM OUT. Before they more damage.
@mrcmaths4613
@mrcmaths4613 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Hask the performance against the Boks was so abject that he had to go because the players were not singing from the same hymn sheet. The players did not look happy. Maybe Jones wanted them to play badly so the next time the Boks play us they underestimate us?! Who knows.
@michaelbuettner1487
@michaelbuettner1487 2 жыл бұрын
What? The players gotta show up not the coach
@davidmccrudden4193
@davidmccrudden4193 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! With EJ still in charge England would be one less contender for the rest of us to worry about!
@Hgh_hhb
@Hgh_hhb 2 жыл бұрын
David Brent vibes here from Haskell
@st2505
@st2505 Жыл бұрын
Eddie jones took England as far as he could, but needed to walk away after World Cup…. Change was needed for sure …
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 2 жыл бұрын
If he was so good, why did we keep losing matches over the last couple of years?
@dandan4092
@dandan4092 2 жыл бұрын
Chose a great thumbnail lmao
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with Mr Haskell
@gavahern
@gavahern 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell covering all his bases there. Terrible decision yet everyone mentioned is great 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@footballbabybaby
@footballbabybaby Жыл бұрын
I wanna casually drop in i was d j ing in dubai during a conversation some time in my life
@derekreed6798
@derekreed6798 2 жыл бұрын
Scott Wisemantel was the coach you forgot the name of. We never seem to get a balanced backrow and our centres never seem to worked out..why is that? The best game we played..Eng vs NZ worldcup semi.
@jakehowie442
@jakehowie442 Жыл бұрын
James’ Twickenham prawn sandwich brigade comment was pretty accurate, though they are more into gin n tonics and ciders nowadays. They come to Twickenham more for drinking and chatting, than watching the rugby, supporting the team.
@at7512
@at7512 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell.. never heard of her.
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
*them
@coniferclose
@coniferclose Жыл бұрын
@@karlosdeevsno he got it right, dimbo.
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
@@coniferclose who cares, i was playin‘
@philipmccarthy6175
@philipmccarthy6175 2 жыл бұрын
Poor timing but inevitable. Has any rugby pundit stopped to consider the possibility that at the end of the day that this current crop of England players doesn't contain enough world class players ? I keep reading that Smith & Farrell , Itoje are world class but their form of late suggests otherwise. Itoje has been world class but his form of late hasn't been. If Farrell isn't starting at 10 he's certainly not an international class 12. The premiership is behind the top 14 & since the addition of the South African sides the URC too. Time for a reality check.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Жыл бұрын
I'm a rugby league fan, I always see that England do well.. When I heard the dude was sacked potentially for a league player was wild.
@iqosuser2754
@iqosuser2754 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell you the greatest. Big fan of your opinions.
@matthewbennettyoung1994
@matthewbennettyoung1994 2 жыл бұрын
I woke up at 2am last night wondering...about all the careers/players that EJ has inhibited. The chaos his dictatorship has caused. All those players and pretty much anyone in the prem will now have hope of breaking into the WC squad. This could be a real renaissance if it's managed in the right way. Hopefully Steve B will have 'learned' from EJ's mistakes and will develop something progressive with INTEGRITY a la Fabien Gaultier/Andy Farrell. Something lasting is what the English fans want. AND SO DO THE PLAYERS! Let's not forget them in all this! Haskell hasn't got a clue. Just a big gob. 73% success rate is just a stat without a soul. Means nothing.
@davidlee55
@davidlee55 2 жыл бұрын
Except winning
@hermanvisser4034
@hermanvisser4034 Жыл бұрын
James, you are spot on. Eddie got ousted because he stood up to the toxic British press. The fans were poisoned by said press. All international coaches respect Eddie Jones. (From a Springbok supporter).
@CD-up6pu
@CD-up6pu 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell is bang on here. The whole thing is bonkers. What are they thinking!? Timing is absolutely shocking along with the decision. How the world is now ruled by the distant keyboard warriors and clueless media who just love to chat worthless, clueless rubbish. What a shame.
@alexandersmailwoodford2480
@alexandersmailwoodford2480 2 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy Eddie Jones but as far as I’m aware, even though he is still the best winning coach in history, I believe the stats were 89% before the World Cup and then 60% since the WC. I do think there was an intangible spark that wasn’t there since the WC. Coaches have an era and then systems get found out! Happened to Ireland in 2018/19, happens to NZ in the 2019 and it happens to England.
@chrisevans9456
@chrisevans9456 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell is spot on
@cornishpasty6926
@cornishpasty6926 2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@talentfinder575
@talentfinder575 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, utterly bonkers. Fair play that SA Rugby has kept Rassie even with all the negative media.
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
That‘s a completely different scenario. Erasmus was never under that kind of pressure at home. But don‘t worry, he will be if SA can‘t make the last 4 at the WC
@ricky18171
@ricky18171 2 жыл бұрын
England have underperformed in World Cups for donkeys years but with Eddie there was always a chance. I did feel like he was struggling to get the best out of these players but don’t sack him 9 months before the WC 😅 I wish the best of luck to his successor but they are going to need a miracle.
@EasyTiger.01343
@EasyTiger.01343 Жыл бұрын
Since England won in 2003, SA and NZ have each won two WC Finals (the second SA Final was against England). So, looking at the actual facts, England have performed pretty well at the WC compared to ALL teams bar NZ and SA. I don’t dispute that EJ had his day as an England coach, but the trajectory was definitely headed downwards.
@ProTantoQuid
@ProTantoQuid 2 жыл бұрын
This interview is full of energy; and hot air. Looked at from a different perspective, and much of it is clear nonsense. Why should we believe that JH knows what "most rugby fans" feel about EJ? Why would it be invalid to ignore the continuing lack of success (4 Six Nations wins in 2 years), diminishing penetration (8 tries in 2022), selection of out-of-form old favourites, non-selection of in-form talented players, the employment of coaches whom JH describes as por, etc. If JH were able to detach his personal feelings from an evaluation of the latter part of EJ's England career,it would be more valuable. Incidentally, I think it mad to dsmiss a coach and appoint another this close to the World Cup.
@marclawyer2789
@marclawyer2789 2 жыл бұрын
The players so not understand (and neither did Eddie) that being England's manager is more than man management, it's cultural management, something that Clive Woodward understood and was vilified by the players for it...but he took them to a world cup win. Btw, England have been to 3 World cups where they've lost out to South Africa...a team that plays the style England pursue, but that just do it more ruthlessly
@fatman4346
@fatman4346 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's right jones was sacked. England were going backwards but also the style was just awful to watch,and when the crowd turns on you then its very hard. Final straw was the South Africa match.england were not even in the game ,Twickenham is the home of England it's just humiliating.worst thing is that it wasn't even south Africa strongest team.
@charlespirate1
@charlespirate1 Жыл бұрын
Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day
@Nattherat64
@Nattherat64 2 жыл бұрын
He had a plan, Squidge Rugby was explaining that in his videos. He was building something better for England. What have you done?
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Жыл бұрын
yeah yeah, sure he did..
@iqosuser2754
@iqosuser2754 2 жыл бұрын
BTW I'm not an England fan !!! My favorite team is Wales then Boks. But I do feel this was mutiny of the bounty. Any coach that thrashed ABs in world cup gets my vote. Eddie Aus needs you!!!!! From Rugby fan of all nation. Strongs !!!
@debskeith
@debskeith Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of time for James Haskell but he’s so wrong with this one
@mikolaj83
@mikolaj83 Жыл бұрын
after 11 months this video is hilarious 😆
@darthmong7196
@darthmong7196 2 жыл бұрын
He's bang on. Utter madness.
@robertsimpson6033
@robertsimpson6033 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell couldn't be more wrong here. He's an Eddie fan boy. Eddie has done a great job you could argue up to the end of 2019. However, after this point, it started slowly going downhill. There has been no development of the squad since 2019. The style of rugby hasn't evolved. Game plans have become too rigid, and on the pitch, players are clearly scared of making a decision. A perfect example was Marcus Smith kicking the ball out at the end of the NZ game. He's refused to pick in form players regularly. Not to mention, playing players are out of position. England has been lucky in the past few years with results. Covid probably helped with that luck also. Sacking Eddie Jones is the best thing for England and the RFU. It just should have happened earlier, or Eddie's contract should never have been renewed.
@campbelltribe
@campbelltribe 2 жыл бұрын
Being booed off is because the fans paid a lot of money to watch their team win (or at least try) not to see them practice for a game they won't watch in 12 months time. Hands off Borthwick and Sinfield.
@jeremyreid9582
@jeremyreid9582 2 жыл бұрын
As a South African, this looks sadly very familiar !!!! My condolences and best wishes.
@ayescot
@ayescot 2 жыл бұрын
Twickenham fans were ridiculous for the England against Argentina match, most were enjoying the corporate hospitality as they assumed England would walk it. Pompous or what. Audacity to boo their side as they went off against an amazingly powerful Boks side a few weeks later. They paid highly for the seat (we can’t afford the seats when we visit) but haven’t earned the right to criticise as they have given their full support.
@doppies2000
@doppies2000 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell is talking pish ! the Buck stops with the Head Coach ! he failed miserably ! only thing wrong with EJ's sacking is the timing of it. should have been replaced after the RWC ! and saying that he was the most successful(English) Coach is deceptive and deflective. he was nowhere near the Top in the last two 6 Nations ! 5th and a very lucky 3rd just isn't good enough ! and ending 2nd best in the RWC is also simply not good enough !
@Solicitor1957
@Solicitor1957 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it a bad move? Let’s get this straight: England couldn’t be playing worse! The idea that there is a master plan that will come good is ludicrous. Jones is appalling as an individual and I don’t just mean his excuses when England play badly (‘they will be better next week ‘). His treatment of fringe England players has been dreadful and his sledging over the years has been shameful. Good riddance….🤓
@Kpmg12
@Kpmg12 2 жыл бұрын
If any criticism you can give Eddie is that his eyes was behind the WC too much but he never went out of his way to make England lose
@ThomasDoubting5
@ThomasDoubting5 2 жыл бұрын
Revelations ahoy... People aren't honest? Really? My reality has fallen apart.
@jamesmcaree4908
@jamesmcaree4908 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the England Rugby board are so foolish to sack Eddie Jones the brilliant, honest & tactical rugby coach due to the bad influence of ungrateful & impatient fans & pessimistic media 🤨👎
@Andy_M986
@Andy_M986 2 жыл бұрын
What about Ronan O'Gara?, He spent 2 years learning from Razor.
@dulls8475
@dulls8475 2 жыл бұрын
72% win rate....
@rohannfraser8503
@rohannfraser8503 Жыл бұрын
Haskell says it like it is. England treated Eddie like they treated their prime ministers.
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