‘People said I was sleeping with 9ice’s wife; he used the scandal to promote his album’ -Ruggedman

What does it feel like to be on top of the game in your industry, and years after, people say to you ‘your time has passed’?
What does it feel like to lose friendship, reputation and business because a person you called a friend allegedly threw you under the bus?
What are the stories Ruggedman hasn’t told before about mentoring the musician 9ice, introducing him to his wife, begging him to publicly exonerate them in a sex scandal and hearing his friend say no? And why does he think of all that happened?
Plus, the full details of the attack he faced from “Naira Marley fans” at a London restaurant.
This life.
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[@marvisalimhiantare453]

RuggedyBaba! The living legend that sanitized the Nigerian Hip-hop scene.

[@ifyifemanima3972]

This man is forever young!

[@Cypressbeatz]

You don see am now😂

[@ayanfeoluwa4461]

Some people are so desperate!! Nice ruined his wife's reputation till tomorrow. He is very ungrateful to the two people that helped him reach limelight. That episode seriously dented Rughedman's image back then. The same nice is now forgotten. Women be discerning - that a person is skilled in an art or sport or any endeavor does not make them people of good character.

[@okolochristian759]

Spot on

[@nameless592]

How tf did this turn to woman’s problem. Nice is a bad guy but some reason it’s still women you’re advising. Kmt nonsense

[@dareabraham]

He was ungrateful to everyone, including ID Cabasa. He ruined his own destiny.

[@ekeoma4639]

​@@EtaFelix-gg6jgThis is a very unnecessary comment. SMH

[@alimiadedayo4646]

​@@EtaFelix-gg6jgThis has nothing to do with tribe.. OSU u guys have problems

[@AdeolaShonibare]

I really enjoyed this episode dear Rugged man. I miss your music.

[@bellaeweka1217]

If all they labeled against you was lie, wow not Good. Thank God truth is out now.

[@eluwaifeanyi3071]

Its Ruggedy Baba For Life and He is The True Face Of The Nigerian Music Industry and He is Sir Opomulero Baba.

[@boltuber1]

Ruggedman hid some information in this clip. 9ice can't just compromise his relationship with rugged and Tony cos of album sales. I listened to the recorded call and I can tell that 9ice knew what he did and had this internal justification as to why he did that. That justification is what ruggedman hid from us in this clip. It's not just about album sales.

[@NguyenMaxwell-z4d]

Oya u talk we are listening 🎧

[@daveboosie7798]

Say the information or shut up abeg

[@thompsonmarek9321]

I listened to that phone call on one Tv show when Rugged man was interviewed. Almost a decade now if not more than

[@-62Francis]

Ruggedee baba thanks you for this explanation even me I was thinking the same thing oooo

[@charlesalozie602]

February should be named the month of OGs of the Nigeria music industry. So much unraveling this month.

[@BRAIN_BOXX]

Where’s the rest of it Chude??!!!!😩😩😩

[@KenUbeleveit1]

I think it's available for paid subscribers to Chude's platform

[@WithChude]

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[@acumenartworld6120]

I might agree with all you said but as at the time TRADITIONAL was released is one of best albums,so many good songs,sweeter and bigger than ONCE BITTEN TWICE SHY,just my observation though

[@opeyeminurudeen]

You are right...

[@orioyeyusuf774]

I was shocked too when he said TRADITIONAL ALBUM was not really selling. "Once bitten, twice shy" is one of the lowest ranked songs in that album. That album was a Banger and started going viral and selling fast from it's first day of release. I understand what 9ice did was terrible, but it was never for album sales. It's just like expecting Asake to do such now just to sell an album, when he's currently the rave of the moment. 9ice was the rave of the moment at that time.

[@fiyinfoluwaakindileni5942]

bros you didnt cut the call, your airtime got finished on the call

[@MelodyChuksOfficial]

Waited for this interview 20 years later. 🤔

[@raymeester7883]

This story is crazy. I don't even believe it.

[@alawodemayowa1123]

I think we also have to hear from 9ice then we can choose what to believe...if 9ice was the one on this interview chair the same people will still curse Ruggedy...my opinion tho

[@taofeekbello3779]

Lol.. there’s nothing to hear again.. 9ice held a press conference to clear the air about 4years ago or so, what he should’ve done about 6years before then.. He even apologized to Ruggedman and they recorded a song together after that. Title is Religion.

[@amitsahai8997]

Nice already accepted he wasn't talking about him in the song. The question is why did he let the rumour continue? Why watch your friend suffer and wait till he recorded you to clear the air.

[@therealbomiangel]

Talk I am listening, Talk I am listening 🎶 Iwofa lenu ohun toba wu Elenu ko fenu eso...

[@MelodyChuksOfficial]

OG!!!!! 💪 💪 😎 I still dey find Seriki 😅

[@rotimimosesbamidele9947]

You didn't come out early enough Rugged man. It is well with you

[@crownjohnson8153]

Gongo Aso blow up immediately lol😅 what are you talking about maybe you making reference to the collaboration you did together before Gongo Aso 😂😂

[@hitfactorystudio2837]

9ice became know for little money not Gongo Aso. The story is adding up . Even 9ice had a song with 2short before Gongo Aso called **Make Dem Talk*** how can you claimed you helped him then 😂😂😂

[@xtra_pro]

Baba those songs didn’t make 9ice!! The Street Embraced 9ice Through Gongo Aso,Those Songs Rode On Gongo Aso’s Glory! No stress am abeg !

[@eryowmar]

​@aderounmuadeola9121 God bless you baba, if him know 9ice with those songs, fine. But the street knew 9ice from gongo aso.

[@eryowmar]

​@aderounmuadeola9121 God bless you baba, if him know 9ice with those songs, fine. But the street knew 9ice from gongo aso.

[@boazwhensu4132]

One side of a highly sensitive story. Don't think what you've heard here is all and true. Trust no one and move on.

[@karisudofia]

But 9ice himself came out 4 years ago to say the whole saga was not true and Rugged and his wife were not those he was talking about in the song. Watch this video again and listen with an open mind and you will know the truth

[@Yas-2016]

Let listen to 9ice part of the story too

[@baqiahlimmy1141]

You are not serious at all. Let's understand the abusers point of view. Lol

[@onwanyiulegede6077]

How do watch full versions then

[@adesanyaoduwole9625]

The success of that album has nothing to do with rugged man issue

[@Toy00_7]

There is no smoke without fire

[@tdad8683]

Meaning what exactly?????!!!!!

[@skgvevo7687]

Not when it's coming from a machine

[@Toy00_7]

@@tdad8683 If you work within the industry then you know what really happened. No need to write it here

[@Toy00_7]

@@skgvevo7687 ???

[@raymeester7883]

That is why you never learn anything.

[@dentaldiscjockey8405]

This man aged well

[@DVPofficial]

Ruggedman took me away from Eedris that year. I love Ruggedy Baba, I love 9ice.

[@CUBOFJUDAHTV]

Rugged Man Stop Lying 😂

[@AdefemiAyodele-ym1bk]

Don't judge anyone

[@raymeester7883]

I am judging 9ice. I thought Ruggedman was a home-wrecker for almost 20 years.

[@effahdaniel713]

Ruggedman dey give us lamba. See how sweet he was just moving up and down

[@Ahmedthedreadhead]

Your mumu strong like cinder block

[@tobiadeniji6630]

The way he said "There's a friend of mine, Kunle Fawole". Like we don't know who Abounce was. That's Late Nollywood veteran Bukky Ajayi's son and Yvonne Jegede's ex husband.

[@kcjabari.1146]

I didn’t know that….. that you do don’t mean we all know…

[@abayomimighty549]

I don't know him at all too...

[@alhaji007]

No be everybody (especially the younger folks) know abounce, I do though, from watching him on Music Africa. Others only knew him as an actor on Fuji house of commotion so, it's very possible for people not to connect the dot.

[@florenceflourish6367]

I don't know him.. I knew Yvonne got married and divorced. Never knew who her husband was.

[@adebisiadeleke-williams5969]

Not everyone knows Abpunce

[@olukimkan3837]

In my opinion Ruggedman dwelt too much on 9ice in this interview. He should just have dwelt on the allegation with a direct answer as in yes or no, a rumour without source rather than ...stories.

[@bankinmypocket]

I saw you with my two naked eyes. Giving my friend nodding I was so paralyzed … well well. Tradition album by 9ice is GOATED 🐐

[@kesienaotutu9620]

Jide not nice , that the young people will be paying for information , What is your contribution to the society and a better nigeria Jide , Government nor do for us but you can do for us because you are bring in legends and they are doping information, so is bad cause youtube will still pay you but you love to put people on ransome , so if you know you want to do paid subcribers , kindly dont drop half information here , I can afford but I refuse to pay cause what you doing is very unfair , I am writing this message out of pain , so i know you might laugh my english but you know what the truth , do what pleases you at the end of the day and I wish you Goodluck still

[@bamideleadeyinka2409]

Una don hear one person side una no hear the other person own….

[@dreamboatjay]

I hate people that display too many body cues

[@nzubeikoroha3793]

Lol. People are expressive like that

[@annieo.9887]

ok

[@txlonghorn638]

Well, your opinion of them doesn't matter. Do you!

[@FemiOlanipekun-p7s]

Not until this interview, I 100% believed that rumor that he banged 9ice ex back then cos it spread like wildfire 🔥 . Rugged lost his legendary status and repute in the industry. A lot of animosity was built towards him as result of this baseless accusation. I’m so sorry Rugged you went thru this 🙏🏽 Wishing you all the best Legend. ❤

[@taofeekbello3779]

But why did you believe the rumour? 9ice never confirmed anything, the conversation Ruggedman recorded went viral and ID Cabasa granted an interview back then saying such never happened between Rugged and Tony Payne that She(Tony Payne) Infact prepared the food they all ate at the studio the day the song was being recorded.

[@ChekwubeIsaac]

@@taofeekbello3779 Thank you very much. The reason I opined the real battle was meant to be against the media for generating such rumours

[@raymeester7883]

@@taofeekbello3779 Many people did including me believed the rumour. In was considered the truth. I never heard of the recorded conversation or ID Cabasa interview till today.

[@OyeBimpe-rb4yu]

He really went thru it and I'm happy he survived. Some could not stand such humiliation and they died. Nobody heard their own side of the story. Such is Life!!

[@dsistudios8446]

That Show in Minna, I was the MC! Life...

[@kateene1621]

Am happy rugged man granted this interview,may the Lord have mercy on some of us that believed all the lies.🙏

[@acoker6847]

They should ask God for forgiveness.

[@tunjifolawiyo3178]

Some of us that know the truth cause am close to Canada studio then we did everything humanity possible to defends his wife and Rugged man but many don’t believe us then! Only 2.3 years ago 9ice then came back and apologized

[@SummerNational]

I always believe in ruggedman

[@successogbonnakwight3205]

Are u believing him for just dis thing he said?

[@tunjifolawiyo3178]

@@successogbonnakwight3205 lol well since you don’t know am a brother n friends to most artist at ID Cabasa studio at that time as Bariga/ Akoka breed! Hardly anyone in that area that don’t know what happened then

[@emmaodurukwe7825]

Ruggedman, no matter what happened, I want to see you bounce back, you should not have allowed that cheap gossip from Nice bring your glorious music career down, to me you remain one of the biggest OGs in Nigeria music industry, afteral some of your contemporaries like 2Face Idibia, PSquare, Don Jazzy etc are still kicking strong/doing their things, I pray 🙏🙏 to see you back in the game 👍👍❤️.

[@obitriceforlife5771]

What Nice did to Ruggedman is what is partly the problem in Nigeria. Even amongst families there’s distrust.

[@graceolushoga2498]

People don't value relationships.

[@nwagwuezeoha7543]

I swear!!!

[@patriciaoluku08]

This is why people don't help each others. May God help us all.

[@hauwausman9764]

Rugged man deserved better ❤

[@reinvent9259]

Ruggedman is nice and 9ice is very rugged.irony

[@olufunkeidowu9931]

Nice! Really nice interpretation. .... wordplay....pun intended😊

[@abayomiadio6485]

you just said it all

[@nwagwuezeoha7543]

Beautiful wordsplay...when are you releasing your next rap album

[@LeonardoAlvarez-fx3cb]

Very nice

[@esthersimeon4250]

So good to see ruggedybaba again . Weldon Chude

[@knifychris139]

MY FAVOURITE NIGERIA RAP LEGEND FOREVER RUGGEDY BABA FOR LIFE . luv all ur albums. Luv from Baltimore

[@CharityOgwuche-d3g]

Funny enough I was thinking about Rugged Man and Lord of Ajasa this afternoon, these niggas were so good

[@obafemiadeyemi]

9ice no be correct guy. He had issues with Cabasa too.

[@ronsey7533]

Shut up! U don’t just come to conclusions about people without listening to the other person story.

[@NaqeebLowonle-on7of]

Are you thre ....fear God ooo

[@ZAINABIDRIS-d6c]

Cabana was here, and he didn't say that

[@awesometayo]

He nor get issues with cabaassa,he left his record label and na normal thing and not even with fight,don't say what u don't knw

[@Emem_Obong]

Ruggedman changed my life. Love from Calabar.

[@acoker6847]

Those who castigated her, should beg God for forgiveness. 🙄

[@jayprogroup]

What I picked from this video is that don’t help everybody that comes your way 😢

[@ayanfeadeyemi9711]

If that's what you can get, then you need to work on your heart...... Everyone needs help, it doesn't matter what you get in return

[@salaubiola9746]

​@@ayanfeadeyemi9711you esaid it all.. Do we appreciate GOD dvway we should? If No, just help and look away without any expectation

[@Stayhigh2087]

I knew it was all a lie na.... 9ice later said it but it was late

[@AdedolapoTemitopeAmuna]

Some of us didn't see where he cleared the air, Yoruba people said eti to ti gbo alo le ma gbo abo... May God fight for us where they are accusing us wrongly

[@tunjifolawiyo3178]

He not only cleared the air 3 years ago but also begged people to beg Riggedman for him n he personally apologized n seek for forgiveness! Some of us knew it was lie from day one cause I have chance to close to Cabasa studio then! That stain relationship btw him if Cabasa n some Cabasa guys then cause everyone including his wife know the lady he was referred to but just come out n clear the air he refused just for his album sales

[@daisiabidemi9691]

Rugedy Baba redirects the scope of rap music in Nigeria with his rap of “Why you dey rap like mumu” , paving way for the likes of MI and co

[@OyeBimpe-rb4yu]

9ice is a user. He is still like that, following small small boys around just to be relevant

[@Omoyoruba_tv]

RuggedMan, you can still do Rap music and make money . Read again . Go and flow on drill beat . That's what these Young's kids are listening to. Central Cee, fivio and those London boys are making good money from rap Music. You're not old o, just get some drill beats and practice. You don't even need to change your flow . Your rap will do good on drill beat .

[@ideakashoki1213]

Some thing is wrong abeg but u and nice latter do collabo with you abeg

[@emekaaustin]

After many years, I have finally understood. Not like I was a fan of 9ice but I liked his songs especially 'street credibility' but I think he messed up big time. For Ruggedy baba, much much respect, for your maturity and open mindedness

[@Yas-2016]

One sided story

[@emekaaustin]

@@Yas-2016 have you heard the audio recording? If you think it's one sided story, then good luck to you

[@solomonosemeke2761]

@@emekaaustin don't mind him

[@solomonosemeke2761]

@@Yas-2016 which one is one sided story? Why has nice not said he's own side since?? Mtchww

[@beckyprecious7756]

RUGGEDYBABA THE G.O.A.T🐐🐐🐐HE CHANGED NAIJA RAP MUSIC FOREVER ❤🌹🌹🌹🌸🌸🙏🙏🙏👊🏿🙌🏼💪🏾. OPOMULERO 💪🏾☀️💪🏾💪🏾

[@sholafatai6642]

Thanks Ruggedman for clearing the air

[@olakayodeogboro-cole5711]

Na Eedris swear for Rugged man, we all saw how he dissed Eedris who he had not even meet face to face then, just for fame to blow, what goes around comes around 😂😂😂😂

[@martinacollins9299]

I know Nice was very ungrateful, he 4got so easily. Ruggedy papa helped him and promoted him and nice messed up everything.

[@Ifecommander]

Rugged man legendary but tradition album was full of hits nothing like scandal make it sell oooo

[@willahmrclassic5696]

Don't say you're a very Nice person cos even 9ice no even nice .

[@florenceflourish6367]

Correct Bah🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@nwagwuezeoha7543]

Plus...Ruggedman has a good sense of humour

[@jeremiahjohn7086]

Ruggedman male vampire (forever young)

[@ReeGeeSolutions]

If this was an old recorded video, I would say maybe A.I. brought this interview as a recommendation regarding the respective artistes songs I was playing on Saturday. I was wowed when I saw this video is just a day-old video. Maybe I will call this telepathy at work, cos I was playing both 9ices' Talk I Am Listening and Ruggedman's reply to it, which is A Word Is Enough For The 9ice back to back on Saturday riding through memory lane. Truth is, the whole marital drama was what affected 9ices' career, I think there was a mystery to his dwindled career cause man was moving at a trajectory that could have truly won him a grammy like he often promised us.

[@Firstman_Olanibi]

Am subscribing here now. And will go and unfollow 9ice, from every part we are link together,cos i never believe Ruggedman was a saint until now that i listen and watch this conversation interview. What about RuggedBaba and Naira Marley case?

[@YnOt-4]

Respect to Ruggedy Baba... but I'd bet hugely on this that 9ice got another version on this issue... bcos, this was a very big scandal back then, infact one of the very major scandals then in the Naija entertainment music industry and other major artists were even linked to the scandal.

[@mobo204]

9ice had blown before gongoaso,we knew him from little money,what are you saying? Shout out to Music Africa ,Id Cabasa,2 phat,lord of ajasa etc.As far as we know 9ice made that your song blow.

[@taofeekbello3779]

That you knew him doesn’t mean he blew. Nice blew after Gongoaso.

[@mobo204]

@@temmifissy8727 No....... 9ice had done a lot songs b4 then ,he featured 2short ,lord of ajasa and the likes,9ice featuring Rugged man gave his song street credibility.

[@mobo204]

@@temmifissy8727 9ice made rugged man popular in the trenches

[@karisudofia]

Rugged man introduced 9ice to ID cabasa

[@kingsleyfred3487]

Man so much love for this legend. Can't believe I waited almost 17yrs to hear your part of the story.

[@bayoosa-emmanuel2613]

This is not,or should be about sarcasm... stop playing to the gallery man...to, every iota of rumour.. there's an element of truthfulness...di thing wey man no won eat,he no go smell am...

[@karisudofia]

So you know better than 9ice himself that came out openly to beg Rugged? 9ice came out and, said they are innocent. He also begged his ex wife Toni Payne to forgive him. But you are here hating an innocent man for what the person you are defending came out to say it's not true

[@BunmiAmara]

Ruggedy Baba❤❤

[@idowuopalere4720]

Rugged just spitting lies! How could he say he used the rumour to promote tradition. Tradition we be say every song na hit. That guy should be arrested and jailed for falsity!!!

[@michaelmakay1638]

See as rugged fresh

[@dadaolagoke8796]

it was for publicity back then...... controversy thrive in show business...9ice was enjoying the attention then and the talk about

[@drshinemoxtra45]

Phewwwwsssss.... Kai this thing tarnish Rugged Man image ooo well well ooo... But thank God he did this!

Itz so painful when ppl lied @ u especially when it luks so real n d liar cant declaim it.To be sincere such is unperdonable except such a liar confesses d truth.

[@adebisiadeleke-williams5969]

Everyone asking for both sides, Nice eventually broke his silence about the matter, 3-5 years ago, saying they were innocent of the accusations

[@ucheekwebelem5160]

And God will still punish him

[@henrychimezieokpara6676]

Yoruba is not a friend to have the serpent lives in them

[@adesanyaoduwole9625]

Also Gongo Aso was a Mega Hit ...Nice wasn't upcoming ..he was only upcoming after Little Money ...this interview is quite misleading

[@360Parenting]

Sometimes silence is always golden,why didn't he say his side of the story back then, i kinda believe that scandal completed the nosedive of his musical career, especially as people already took sides with eedris Abdul Kareem after the diss rap he did against him,so this scandal made it easy for people to brand him jealous and controversial. No matter what, always speak your truth

[@unwanaakpan2946]

I can understand him not wanting to clear it up tho. He’s a reserved guy he doesn’t talk much

[@payday9887]

Point of correction baba, with all due respect, no man will use his wife sleeping with another man for publicity stunt , not even nice could

[@olamideadufe4055]

What's Chude problem with always uploading half content, seems this guy is not normal

[@ibrahimishakuisaac8176]

RuggedyBaba❤❤ Love all the way from Kaduna.

[@successogbonnakwight3205]

Oga rugeddy why didn’t u speak up den is now u are talking about it 9ice can’t just accuse u like dat bcs he was ur boy and was scared of u Oga d story has been gone and forgotten so let go

[@fiyinfoluwaakindileni5942]

now you all shouldnt make a conclusion from one side of a story, get both sides of the story and make your inference

[@chukwuemekaobi2331]

Ruggedy Baba my man and favourite Nigerian Rapper

[@KoikiMayowa]

These two with Asa were my favorites then until 9ice did what he did.

[@Ged1356]

So it was a lie

[@arehabdulhamid3397]

The part he said Tradition wasn't moving was Okoto... The album sold

[@ZoeyBrendan]

Listen to understand..smh

[@tunjifolawiyo3178]

No album didn’t move it was this rumors that triggered the sales ! I was close to Cabasa studio as one of the clique artist bro! We are all knew the story then is not about Rugged his wife knew and everyone knew the lady in question but 9ice should have done Honourable thing to clear his former boss and friend name! That runout single handle wreck Rugged career .. and that action stain relationships btw him 9ice n some guys in the studio cause everyone knew what happened but 3 years ago he went to guys to help him beg Ruggedman which he accepted but the damage has been done

[@allelaw7015]

@@ZoeyBrendan these guys have problems listening. When you listen just to argue na watin dey happen.

[@successogbonnakwight3205]

I can never buy to dis story oga ruggedy we know how strong,tough and connected as u were den 9ice can never speak such things if it were lies against u sir so u can keep ur explanation to urself boss

[@Kinzeal]

Making assertion based on conclusion drawn from personal assumption is disastrous. 9ice already said they were innocent. You're not upto date. Learn to make submissions with facts not presumptuous breakdowns.

[@karisudofia]

But 9ice you are trying to defend came out openly to ask Rugged for forgiveness and said the whole saga was not true so what are you now trying to say?

[@oludavid9424]

Good to see RuGGeDY... BiG Ups

[@laolurush2347]

How can you say he had dropped Gongo Aso but he hadn't blown then Lol. He blew immediately that monster dropped

[@remi_eko]

❤

[@charles_umerie]

Gongo Aso didn't pick up immediately.

[@princewilluko7718]

Could throw more light on this if you care Mr Chudi, I have “ Wise” who is one of the artist on that song and am sure he will be willing to confirm and corroborate Ruggedy story that that song had nothing to do with Rugged. I was so pained back then cos I know how much it tanished this legends imgage and reputation and am sure it affected his business as well..

[@frankworldwide]

He's a Legend 💚

[@somtochukwuofodum5898]

Rugged must be related to Ludacris

[@ifeanyiaboy1466]

I miss you ruggedman ❤

[@MelodyChuksOfficial]

Where is Seriki now? 😅😅😅😅

[@IbrahimShowa]

You need to have 9ice come because you have had two people (ID Cabasa and now Ruggedman) talk about his marriage. Otherwise, you too can be rightly accused of using 9ice's name to gain views.

[@olusoladavid5476]

9ice had the opportunity to speak a long time ago but he was cashing out cos his album was selling based on the rumour. Where is the same 9ice now?, He wanted to get fame at all costs, at someone else's detriment, he wanted to win Grammys

[@Dudulemonn]

Question is how will this failed forgotten idiotic rapper continue to regurgitate this old outdated story? This is about the only story he recounts that people get to remember that he is still alive NOT as a musician.. People should grow up and move on to better matters a beg..