We Entered the World of Microsoft Excel eSports & Got Our Asses Beat

[@rolpainyida547]

I love that Anni is working in the background during the whole excel battle sequence with Chris and Quinns, occasionally looking up as two grown men are shouting excitedly about solving excel spreadsheet problems xD

[@jcchurch]

16:45 is the look of "I get to edit those dorks."

[@solsystem1342]

​​@@jcchurch they did a damn good job. Loved the little bits with Quinns on the spreadsheet.

[@bethysboutique]

“Nerds. Awww”

[@jacoblockwood4034]

I was the 1,000th like :)

[@Kosh42EFG]

I shout excitedly about getting Excel to work quite often. I now want to try one of those competitions.

[@huntert7650]

During the pandemic, my college D&D club went virtual. Not wanting to pay for or learn Roll20, my DM, who was an accounting major, moved the entire game to a spreadsheet. The battlemaps were Google spreadsheets. Our characters all had colors assigned to them. We would move by announcing the name of the cell which we were moving to, like Battleship. It was hilarious, and highly functional, might I add.

[@angish1]

This makes me want to see the template !

[@dropsgaming3703]

I recently Made a spreadsheet to calculate pokemon battles and stats and played a pokemon rpg in it with my friendgroup, also using spreadsheets as battle and dungeon maps

[@chronopolize_jp]

Where there's a will there's a way xD

[@mezmerizer0266]

Grorgar, B4, to E4. Whhhaaaaaag

[@veselinjokanovic3032]

As a guy working on google sheets daily, I can say they have a surprising amount of functionality. You can make a lot of stuff by using them.

[@TribuneAquila]

I wrote an excel function that would auto update dates and times relative to the calendar years holiday schedule, then I realized I would have to account for leap years, so I researched how leap years were calculated and made sure that it would only do true leap years and not just every four years. Then I realized I was writing a function that wouldn't come into play until 900 years after I've died

[@swaggerdagger8976]

I never thought about how the term “e-sports” could entail more than just videogames since grammatically it makes sense

[@lucency]

The "e" is reaaaaally doing all the heavy lifting in "e-sports" in this case.

[@Camilo_Z]

excel sports

[@zainmushtaq4347]

@@Camilo_Z it's in the game

[@Big_Dai]

It shouldn't

[@InventorZahran]

'Excel as a sport' seems to be more of a math/statistics speedrun mixed with a coding competition, rather than a computer game in the traditional sense. It technically is a fast-paced competitive multiplayer game that is played on a computer, but it's not what most of us think of when we imagine "e-sports".

[@marllram]

My mom used to tell me stories of how in the 80s she and her coworkers would race on who can balance the books fastest. The thing is, there is almost always unidentified expenses and assets, so this race always involves everyone calling and running all over the office investigating where the lost asset / account went. So that game combines bookkeeping and accounting skill, fast reading, writing, indexing, and calculator skill (it was pre computer era), and fast legs and detective skill (useful in running around interrogating departments with lost receipts). Imagine Amazing Race : Office Edition. And the prize is: whoever won got to leave early, leaving the losers bookkeeping of the solved lost accounts which could take 2+ hours by itself pre-computer. Understandably, mom would always enter her bragging mode each time she recalled her winnings!

[@phnx2026]

thats such a fun anecdote!

[@CreatrixTiara]

Omg I've been thinking of a forensic accounting game for ages and this is a really good format for it!

[@Mathhead2000]

​@@CreatrixTiara I would play that game

[@LutraLovegood]

Fun fact, computers have existed for thousands of years! One of the oldest was found in Greece over a century BC. And for the more modern ones there was a real boom in the 30s and 40s with the first electromechanical programmable computers, and later fully digital electronic computers (see Colossus, ENIAC, Konrad Zuse) which more directly led to the computers of today.

[@orbatos]

​@@LutraLovegood Until 70 years ago most references to computers were people, as in the people who compute. They were also usually women. You are largely thinking of calculators, which could be augmented devices or people as well.

[@womprat208]

As someone who uses Excel for their job extensively, I love the absurdity of an Excel competition. There is something satisfying about solving a really tough problem. But I can't imagine doing it under competitive time constraints. But this was a really fun video! I shared it with my coworkers, who are equally amused/perplexed/horrified, which seems to be the emotions "Excel eSport Competition" gets out of people.

[@uno23sleep]

The competitive time constraint really gets that representation when your manager gives you a problem that you have to solve before the QBR in the next 1 hour.

[@genericallynamed1]

This video I find somewhat funny because I remember watching a channel "Krazam" do a parody/satirical video on this exact concept. Never would have thought this to actually be a thing, but it makes sense honestly.

[@An4lAvenger]

It took me two days to write 20 lines of code to parse json into a sheet, I couldn't imagine doing anything in 30 minutes.

[@tastyrick]

They made a competition out of the shit that gets dropped in my lap a work. 😂

[@heijimikata7181]

When you procrastinated for far too long and have to speedrun everything within a day…

[@ZedAmadeus]

I just want you guys to know I thought it was very cool that you colour-graded your green screen footage to match whatever whacky environment you ended up on. Wasn't necessary, but it made me smile. :)

[@PeopleMakeGames]

Anni will be very pleased you noticed that!

[@zeppie_]

It’s not often that I like a video before I’ve completely watched it or click away, but this was definitely one of the times I liked midway through

[@scbtripwire]

I have no idea what this means.

[@tassaron]

​@@scbtripwire light reflects from the environment onto the subject. When using greenscreen, this can cast green light onto the subject even if they're in, for example, a red room

[@IstasPumaNevada]

@@scbtripwire I believe they're referring to how the same object will look different under different lighting. So an object in bright sunlight will appear bright with well-defined colors, while an object in a dimly-lit meeting room will be dimmer and washed-out. So if you copy-paste a video of Quinns into a scene without appropriately adjusting how vibrant the colors and lighting are, he'll look out of place. Or at least, more out of place. :D

[@iveharzing]

10:52 I was just as confused as them what MMULT might do, but then I saw it select a 4x4 list of numbers, and I laughed. _It's just a matrix multiplication!_

[@dominateeye]

I'm not sure "it's _just_ a matrix multiplication" is a real thing people are allowed to say 😭

[@flummi6966]

Same :)

[@landsgevaer]

Yeah, and claiming that Kurtosis measures skewness! Surely it measures kurtosis and Skewness measures skewness? Ha ha ha ha.

[@pianissimo7121]

@@dominateeye what do you mean? its just 11th grade maths right? I feel like majority of the people should know this even if they didnt do maths

[@pianissimo7121]

@@landsgevaer oh my god those words give me nightmares. I hate stats with a passion and those terms scared me so much that i never touched them until finals. Then I learnt I was scared for the dumbest stuff. Its just daunting words.

[@LordOwenTheThird]

I find it incredibly cute how you greenscreened yourself to be sitting in an excel cell, and how you fit interviews and names into cells as well

[@jan_harald]

Also the behind the scenes at the end showing the stool with green paper wrapped around it lmao

[@andrewmat]

I'm a programmer and I think that creating excel spreadsheets you've captured the joy that I feel when programming. Understanding how you can solve some monstrous problems using "simple" tools is a delight

[@SirProdigle]

There's no greater feeling than writing your code, clicking run for the first time, and seeing every single correct answer flash up before you. A feeling like you've just parted the red sea

[@gloverelaxis]

yep this is a big part of the satisfaction you can get from even the most dull, uncreative programming. here, the programmer can't design the thing they're modeling, nor can they even design the questions / scenarios they want to give to that model. but there's still some catharsis to creating that model and feeling some kind of dominion over the problem; making some new kind of ergonomic and efficient tool for a new kind of problem (no matter how specific or confected that problem is). it's closer to playing a puzzle game than it is to creative writing, but those very limiting constraints can be really fun to work against.

[@marreco6347]

Absolutely. I feel in love with my programming course when I made a program that listed every prime number from x to y. Seeing that the computer spit a list of 100s of entries in a second, a process that would take me at least 20 minutes, was magical.

[@0106johnny]

I am a programmer who has to fix companies whose whole business is built on 20 year old excel spreadsheets full of the worst VBA you have ever seen, so this video gives me anxiety.

[@louismartinez9363]

Yeah, this is pretty much like hackerrank but excel version

[@midknight1339]

I really like weird competitions that seem completely bonkers to the average person but are actually really fun when you get into them. I personally really enjoy a style of cybersecurity competition called a CTF, where you're given 30 or so websites, servers, etc., and 24 hours to hack as many of them as possible (it's called a CTF because it's a "capture the flag" competition - every system you hack has a flag in it which you need to retrieve to get points). It's the sort of competition which people expect to only exist in like, 90's sci-fi movies, and I love it.

[@Liquid_Galaxy]

I didn’t think i would ever see e-sports and excel would in the same sentence

[@pifre3051]

Or better, related

[@zeppie_]

Wait till this guy learns about factorio

[@romainsavioz5466]

​@@pifre3051 well some simulators

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

So Excel-Sports.

[@pifre3051]

​@@romainsavioz5466 You mean like those roller coasters excel videos?

[@melpomeneb-smith3955]

Anni, budgeting this episode: [takes a normal bar chart of expenses] [steadily expands the bars for 'video editing' and 'stock footage' while waggling her eyebrows theatrically]

[@ytterbius2900]

This video is amazing! The absurd 2000s era editing, Quinns' awesome narration (why the fake id?) and the rollercoaster of emotions when he and Chris did a case on their own - I did not expect to be this enthralled by Microsoft Excel

[@PowerUpT]

We know you read this comment Quinn, we're waiting for an answer.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

The most likely, and boring, answer is to get alcohol before you're of legal age to purchase it. But I'm pretty sure Quinns got their fake ID to participate in sketchy, back-alley, black-market, underground boardgame tournaments in Cuba.

[@ytterbius2900]

@@skulver Ah. That does make a lot of sense

[@1Mandacaru]

I love when he showed Chris that caster's view and motivation on excel and he said excel was more violent than he thought it was

[@mikegonzales8520]

I went to game development college back in the day and we totally had a guest lecturer who showed us how to do basic graphics programming inside of excel. 20 years ago.

[@scolkereybel]

This has been the nerdiest, most obscure sport I think you've ever reported on, with somehow some of the best editing and graphics you've ever done On every level, this looks like you'd an illegal amount of fun, and its been pure dopamine watching it

[@juliajuliax]

This feels extremely nostalgic to me because this was exactly the way my high-school IT teacher (amazing woman btw) taught us Exel. We would have these small timed competitions every lesson and I remember being really good at it, to everyone's suprise. IT and coding was not my thing, I was literally dead last in my class when it came to programming. I just couldn't wrap my head around it. But when it came to Exel and Access, I was a beast. Something about taking an unorganised mess of data and making it neat, usable and simple to read made me really exited. The more complicated the task, the more exited I was to slove it, which was not a feeling I would ever when coding. I'm an artist too so I always got extra ponts for making the spreadsheet look esthetic. I remember beating my friends who were excellent at coding and feeling really accomplished, cause believe me, these guys were really intelligent programmers, and I was always last. It felt great, especially as a girl, to do impressive things in an male-dominated IT class. Now I regret not learnings more Exel, I abandoned it after high school, and I am 100% sure that I could've found a really well paying job in Exel if I persisted. Although finances are really not my thing and business income prognostic sounds rather boring to me, sorting data is still fun. Maybe I should go back to it. This video definitely makes me miss it.

[@bitblitz]

Petition for Quinns to become the new Clippy and passive aggressively explain things to Microsoft users.

[@sergeen2314]

I second this

[@massimocole9689]

Now I'm just imagining his animated form jumping from cell to cell resizing things as he scrambles through your sheet like its a jungle gym.

[@hdruk1]

I propose the name Quippy!

[@viollium802]

@@hdruk1 OHHH YOU GENIUS!!!

[@colinedgar6742]

How did I know I'd see you here

[@Arandomfigure]

The editing is so good in this one! Really fun work 😀

[@AlexBloggFilm]

You could say they really exceled themselves this time

[@IstasPumaNevada]

@@AlexBloggFilm You get a cookie for that pun.

[@Avalinara]

I feel like being someone who enjoys excel is very hard to explain to people who don’t enjoy excel, but when you guys got excited about your table working is exactly it lol

[@xliquidflames]

This takes me back. I used to play Lord of the Rings Online, Star Wars Galaxies, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars The Old Republic and so on. I would sometimes spend more time in Excel laying out my characters' builds than I did actually playing the video games. I'd be able to see where my builds were weak and predict what changing a piece of gear would do and even figure out how much of a resource I needed to collect to craft an item. I would spend hours on my character spread sheets and then realize I hadn't even logged into the game for days. And then you guys mention the idea that game developers use Excel to plan their games. I must have been recreating a lot of the developers' work with my spreadsheets. I was back engineering their game mechanics and rebuilding the same sheets they must have used to plan the game when they were making it.

[@Quinns_Quest]

Holy crap. That's amazing!

[@telaferrum]

I was amused to see the game devs appeared to actually be using Google Sheets, but same idea

[@Peglegkickboxer]

Eve Online AKA Spreadsheets Online. That game is like working a second job but you're unpaid.

[@LutraLovegood]

@@telaferrum It's pretty common nowadays. If you've seen the docs for a fighting game it's a loooot of numbers everywhere.

[@aogasd]

I used to do this a lot too, but then I realized a lot of time, the game wiki already has these spreadsheets typed out, at least in terms of data entry if not also stuff like efficiency and resource per action.

[@GazpachoSoupDuJour]

I gotta give *HUGE* respect to Oz du Soleil! I had never heard of him before this video but in the few short minutes of his interview (and fiery pep-talk for Team PMG) he won me over. He clearly knows so much about Excel but stays humble in the face of other top tier talent for their inventiveness. All that coupled with how relatable Oz makes it and the infectious enthusiasm he displays makes me excited to watch an Excel eSports event commentated by him.

[@InexplicableInside]

As someone who uses Excel every day for work, I laughed my butt off this entire episode. Both in sympathy (never heard of MMULT and KURT before and now my nose is bleeding) and in pain at the rookie mistakes in your answers. I was almost yelling "Calculate troop numbers from HP, not the other way around!" at my screen.

[@kathrynfroese3689]

MMULT means matrix multiply. The way it works is by using principles of linear algebra to multiply two matrices together (order matters). There's a whole class of M_ functions with MINVERSE, MUNIT, MDETERM that all have specific mathematical meaning. Not sure how often these are used in financial modeling, but as someone in a STEM program I have to use these all pretty frequently. I've never used the KURT function, but I've heard the concept of kurtosis mentioned in a statistics class before.

[@footballmint]

​@@kathrynfroese3689 kurtosis is the 4th moment of a distribution (after mean, variance, and skewness) and is basically fatness of tails

[@acctsys]

​@@footballmint Ooh boy, we're going into 3Blue1Brown territory now.

[@kathrynfroese3689]

@@acctsys Always a good time when that happens :)

[@jemm113]

@@kathrynfroese3689 had a feeling it was Matrices related when it was calculating something from multiple columns and rows. But man I wish I knew how to use excel because that would have helped me with my matrix algebra class a few semesters ago lolol

[@mika.notarnicola]

You basically discovered the joy of being a video game programmer, working with a game designer, implementing a new game feature and watching it work. Its like magic, it never gets old. It is more satisfying than playing any video game, IMO.

[@mrdocena8082]

It's often hard to believe that there are people who genuinely specialize in things from the heart, rather than the opposite: believing that everyone can find enjoyment in any field, so long as they put in the work... But seeing comments like these makes it very apparent that the former is more true. I, myself, no matter how much work I put into it, do not find enjoyment in making something work - especially with games. I enjoy crafting and toying around with them, creating humorous things with them, filling them with easter eggs - but seeing everything work out masterfully doesn't fill me with joy - just a sense of "Okay, onto the next project". It really goes to show that everyone has their own specific niches in work/life.

[@Jarandjar]

@@mrdocena8082 Perhaps you just haven't found what truly makes you happy?

[@mermaidpotato]

This is, 100%, exactly what it feels like to be a programmer doing this kinda stuff for research. The madness, the elation, the horror, the brain-meltingly unparalleled dopamine rush all at once.

[@telaferrum]

It feels a lot like basically a programming competition, just inside Excel. Especially if people are using macros.

[@henriquefinger935]

@@telaferrum Excel is just programming for the general public on the most likely use case.

[@jessical4866]

The comparison at the end of ice hockey to Excel eSports and ice skating to graphs and charting was a really good one. It's kind of crazy that Andrew came up with that so fast, because that means he's clearly been thinking about this and it's so intuitive to him. It's a world of expertise that I don't live in and can't imagine being so comfortable inhabiting, but I have great respect for Andrew Grigolyunovich and all the competitors for being experts in this field.

[@housecaldwell]

I went from "this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of" to "Shut up, sit down and try this yourself." Well done! Also -- what an insight you had! The key difference I see between this and other e-sports is at the end you've created something, not just beaten something someone else created. That elation you feel is the elation of creation and it's pretty amazing that a contest like that can generate that feeling. I'm a software tester and I love when I can write an automated script to replace part of the workload of my team. It's an amazing feeling of satisfaction. Finally, that book sounds amazing and thank you for including the link. (PS - when explaining to non-boardgamers why Catan became such a gateway game I use simliar analogies. I may lose a game of Catan, I say, but along the way I built my little road network and cities and a special building and fought some robbers -- I had fun regardless of the score. because I CREATED something along the way.)

[@setheus]

As someone with dyscalculia, this would be my actual torment in hell. It's humbling and wholesome to see someone have this much fun with tables and programming, I didn't know genuine joy could be derived from it!!

[@SirProdigle]

The best way to describe it, Imagine if you wrote a 4000 word essay without ever proof-reading or looking back at anything you'd already written, then at the very end you read the whole thing back and it reads perfectly fine, no notes, no changes needed. That's kind of the feeling, a lot of brain power distributed all over the place building bits and pieces, then you click a button and everything works and it reinforces the fact you DO know what you're doing sometimes

[@mknoyle]

As someone who lives in Excel documents at work all week, you'd think this was the last thing I want to hear about, but this is great! And to echo Quinns' intro piece, the world definitely runs almost entirely on Excel. I work in supply chain, and everything is done by Excel spreadsheet, or uploaded into systems that are little more than glorified proprietary versions of Excel spreadsheets.

[@Sanchuniathon384]

"glorified proprietary versions of Excel spreadsheets." And with less functionality! And slower! I can't imagine how many times now I have asked in a requirements specification session for a new program that they add an "export to Excel" feature so I can actually work through the whole thing in 4 seconds with a macro.

[@Respectable_Username]

Yet again, whoever is in charge of visuals deserves an applause! They're so wonderfully cheesy in that perfect corporate-DIY style that's just so so perfect for the topic! Absolutely love it ❤

[@steverogers8163]

I knew very little out of school on how to use Excel. However once at work I've slowly figured out more and more complicated tables. I think something that really helped me learn was just having a huge table to work with, something far to big for you to just figure out in your head. That really forces you to actually start using formulas to get your answers, especially when you know you will have a whole new table next month that needs the same work done to it. There is something satisfy about getting a table running and saying, "solved forever!" Side note be kind and leave notes in your tables on how to actually use them. So many business end up relying on a running table to keep track of stuff that when it breaks its a big problem because the person who made it left 10 years ago. Backwards engineering stuff is possibly worse than starting over from scratch, especially when the table is just miles above your skill level.

[@Exsulator2]

Or, you know... Secure your future by leaving NO notes, so the company has to call you in as an expensive out-sourced person, and get proper payout for your work on that "brilliant system". Remember, hard work doesn't result in high pay. probably the only way to get value out of giving your hard work to a company is to make yourselv unexpendable to them, and then you can bargain for reasonable pay.

[@merezko4339]

Time has had so little meaning these past few years, that I was convinced Today was April Fools. Fantastic editing, and I can't say im surprised, I've enjoyed Dwarf Fortress and Eve

[@zefcookie4501]

Been subscribed to People Make Games since the Star Fox piece, you guys have always been on your own level with quality and production, but this is a next level S tier ranking video

[@QuestioningYourSanity]

PowerBI's primary competitor, Tableau, has had an Iron Chef style battle for a while at their conferences.

[@broshmosh]

Quinns Explores A Weird Game is my favourite genre of PMG video. Don't get me wrong, all the journalistic work you do is important and frankly phenomenal, but fun Quinns videos have great personality. Love the "I'm in a spreadsheet" editing in this one. As a quality assurance officer that shit gets me laughing every time.

[@nytsiory]

I remember reading something along the following line some years ago on reddit: How good would it feel to write on your resume that you are playing in Competitive Excel instead of "Excel: Advanced level".

[@budee949]

This is fantastic y'all! There are a lot of stories in the industry that are inherently disheartening but also definitely worth covering but it's always great to see more lighthearted content once in a while

[@q-tuber7034]

0:32 “Speaking as someone whose job it is, I literally had no choice but to learn more…”

[@bitnewt]

I like the new spreadsheet league you've invented. It's more fun with two people arguing over a computer/manning mouse and keyboard separately with scary efficiency.

[@shadamethyst1258]

That's something that's done in the programming world, called pair programming. Usually one if not both get a keyboard *and* a mouse, though

[@DrossPedantic]

This popped up in my feed today. I had no idea Quinns was on another channel until I saw him in the thumbnail for this upload from not Shut Up & Sit Down.

[@ruejr]

I had a class that was sort of like this in university. 6 weeks dedicated to learning Excel and using it to make useful things like data crunching and not so useful things like simulating games using spreadsheet cells.

[@1whospeaks]

Me and some friends are Monster Hunter addicts, and in this game about stabbing giant monsters, we discovered the best way to account for all situations and buffs to find the most optimized highest damage per second on any given weapon is to put everything on Excel. You're not kidding when you say the world runs on spreadsheets. Anytime you think something can be done faster or better, organizing numbers will give you an answer, its really magic. Anything for that Sub-5-Minute Savage Deviljho Lance Only Run...

[@Mads626]

The “we need to make a table” bit had me dying

[@NerdyZanoth]

That Excel problem looks so fun. I wouldn't be able to do it in 30 minutes, but I could easily spend a couple hours having a blast with it.

[@maggot_xd]

The production value on this video is amazing! One could even say, OFF THE CHARTS

[@giantnoah]

Sounds a lot like competitive programming! I took a class in college where we tried to solve similar problems but with text files and C code. Plus there's the annual Advent of Code Calendar where you have to solve one problem before you are given a more complicated version of it, encouraging players to make their solution tot he first problem flexible enough to extend quickly into the second.

[@Indigoification]

I didn't expect to have such a great time watching a video about Excel esports! I genuinely think this might be the best video you've done to date.... And you've done some amazing videos!

[@OzduSoleilDATA]

🥳

[@martixy2]

As a comfortable user of excel watching this was painful. But also funny watching you struggle. I use excel when I play video games to track collectibles and quests in RPGs, to track my progress in competitive shooters. When I play D&D to make characters, when I design homebrew rules to model how they behave. To track finances at home. To solve math and physics problems for school.

[@HereComesRockire]

I’m a scientist, and watching spreadsheets all day, everyday is a limbo I never thought I’ll be stuck in. Loved the video btw.

[@Navie05]

"I will control the keyboard and he will control the mouse." Objectively the best way to collaborate on an excel project XD

[@CrabQueen]

I feel like giving Quinns access to a greenscreen can only end poorly

[@mnspstudioful]

Did anyone else find themselves stopping at the part where he suggests that a spreadsheet program is where you *store* data and going "No, that's where you sort, search, and manipulate your data. You store it in a database which Excel is not (but does have Access to :wink wink:)"

[@Zexhall]

This is the exact stuff that keeps me a patreon. I love it. I love that you guys have the ability to make videos covering this kind of wacky stuff. Thank you PMG team

[@TurbopropPuppy]

I have never seen anyone have this much fun doing math, I genuinely laughed along. What a treat. Also loving the unhinged energy of the thumbnail on this one!

[@jetpac7890]

Anni laughing at you in the background is wonderful

[@Bo-kq8tn]

The greenscreened integration at the beginning with full on color grade and costume changes and popping up out of the backgrounds genuinely made me smile so big, followed up by an interview with one of the devs behind one of my favorite games of all time??? instant subscribed. I can't wait to see what y'all do next!

[@Jerms2pimp4u]

This is one of my favorite videos I’ve seen in a long time. So incredibly weird and creative and positive and fun.

[@wgolyoko]

Guys I just begun the video and I just anan that the editing and presentation is AMAZING. This is great stuff, keep it up !

[@Cyfrik]

6:08 - "Contestants in an excel esports match have no idea what they're gonna be expected to do, only that it's going to be bonkers and they'll have just 30 minutes to do it." I wish more sports followed that model. It might even make some of the big popular sports like soccer almost watchable.

[@IQzminus2]

That is more or less what sports climbing is, especially bouldering. And I think a reason why it was so popular with viewers in the Olympics, even though it was one of the new events. With bouldering all you know is that you will face 3 problems, aka 3 short walls you want to reach the top of. And you can get halfway points by reaching check points on a wall. And the problems could be anything, and require really different techniques and approaches Anything from hanging on one foot and like a monkey swinging into a long jump maybe 2 meters away on the wall. To holding your whole body weight by squeezing your knee against two completely vertical walls. Or it’s all about balancing on super thin holds the thickness of a coin, and it’s more about balancing your way up to the top with no big moves. You are only allowed to see the walls when it’s your time to try to climb. And they get something like 3 minutes or something in total per wall and get to try how ever many times they want. With any technique they want. So a huge part of it is just seeing the problem, which could be nothing like anything you’ve done before, and come up with a good approach you want to try and see if you can make it successfully. But also understanding when you should drop and try a new way to approach the problem. It’s pretty exciting see maybe 3 people in a row being very close but failing to reach the top. To then see someone try a similar approach once, to then do some completely out of the box weird stuff, and reach the top right away on the first try on their first attempt. And also seeing multiple different solutions to the same problem.

[@reinboldwilliam]

Funny thing watching this as a Production Manager in video games is that I keep thinking "That's not what that function does" lol!

[@ai_is_a_great_place]

As a power user, it's awesome seeing more people talk about this! (I'm hoping to join this year, or next!)

[@lastyhopper2792]

Imagine the king's generals be given task to calculate the result of their battle. And then this weird looking guy with a weird looking spectacles smuggly told the king he can do it in 30 minutes.

[@tylereikenberg9651]

People Make Games consistently creates the best videos on KZbin. Loved this one!

[@JaquesBobe]

I would love to watch a live tournament narrated by the "Excel of Fire" guy. From the another room it would sound to someone like a heated sports game, only to walk in and see a bunch of spreadsheets zooming by on the screen 😂

[@MegaLuros]

Damn, I was always reluctant to take those excel trainings that could get me a higher salary. But now I now that I know that there are APMs involved, I feel the need to at least match my StarCraft APM

[@omr8759]

I am simply amazed that such a tournament exists: Microsoft Excel World Championship 😮

[@nuk3snip3r]

"We need to make a table" - The setup and editing on that, just perfect.

[@567secret]

8:53 such a subtle laptop handoff.

[@nighttimeClock]

"I thought that was the dog, I was stroking at your knee" 💀

[@AnarchoPurp]

So about 20:29... Excel can absolutely do this, you guys didn't have to do all that copying and pasting lol. I was yelling "VLOOKUP!! VLOOKUPPPPPP!" at my computer at this part

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

Not sure what Ikea furniture has to do with solving Excel...

[@longemen3000]

VLOOKUP!, a weapon for a more civilized age

[@hughjazz5608]

you introduced me to boardgames, RPGs, Blaseball, and now... Competitive Excel, thank you Mr. Quinns

[@moonspear]

I was today years old when I realized Quintin from people make games is also the same Quintin from shut up and sit down... I feel like a clown for not noticing sooner HAHAHA

[@Noxeus1996]

11:00 Kurtosis does not measure the skewness of a distribution. In simple terms, skewness is the third moment that measures left/right imbalances while kurtosis is the fourth moment that measures how quickly the distribution goes to zero when moving away from the mean.

[@PeopleMakeGames]

😐💧

[@laurelloaf]

I sometimes do a data battle with the developers I work with where they try to find an answer in SQL while I try to find the answer in excel. It’s legitimately fun to get to work with fellow data nerds 😂

[@indubio1]

Amazing video! The bizarre subject matter, the unbridled enthusiasm and the FANTASTIC oh-god-how-do-we-make-a-video-about-excel-visually-compelling editing work. So good.

[@Gwunhar]

The editing in this is so perfect. Just a wonderful hammed up time.

[@halcyonacoustic7366]

13:10 Chris' reaction to Oz's first few words "emotionally" was amazing. What a visceral reaction to being told Excel Esports is gonna chew you up and spit you out.

[@GutsyTen42]

This was very unhinged and unique. The exact reason I love people make games!

[@RecordsSam]

The editing on this video is so good! All the greenscreening people onto spreadsheets, color matching to match other footage, and the effects being related to excel!

[@dixiesama]

Some great games aren't far off of data entry + transformation with Excel, especially puzzle and management games. Watching you boys faff around and come up with table designs and formulae gave me flashbacks to playing Factorio with friends.

[@CassiopeiaDream]

I play several games which could reasonably be described as ‘spreadsheet simulators’ lol

[@metaparalysis3441]

Truly the rtw moment of all time@@CassiopeiaDream

[@hee-hoo5672]

I like being absolutely confused by stuff like this. It’s truly fascinating

[@ExcelCampus]

Incredible video! You did a fantastic job of explaining the "sport" and it was fun to watch you both attempt a case. I feel the same set of emotions when solving cases. Excel = (Elation + Frustration)^2 One person on the mouse and the other on the keyboard is true teamwork. 😂 The FMWC should consider adding a division for this type of split team. 😉

[@shizuyori6173]

had this as a job, business analyst for the ambulance service, calculating all sorts of data....never again

[@LightUpTheSkys]

I'm going to put Casual Excel in my CV.

[@scout8145]

I always love to see a new PMG video pop up, but one that *also* gets me excited to get back to working in Excel afterwards? Truly a double win! 🎉

[@corvuscorax9028]

So this is eve online without gun and politic

[@tessiepinkman]

This is one of the most fantastic videos I've seen in a while. I laughed so hard, and the editing is simply "chef's kiss"-material.

[@music_YT2023]

That looks like so much fun. I've tried to avoid wading into VBA, but I've learned more obscure things for gaming before.

[@PKDoesStuff]

Learning VBA is like going from presets to a full custom character builder. It unlocks so much more power within Excel, but all the guide rails are off. Well worth it, though.

[@dputra]

My workplace always use excel to make blueprint for new applications and modules. Sometimes the analyst even goes further by adding external data link and working actions. It is basically a working application mockup, with inputs, dropdown, tables, formatting, charts. All interact with each other, all in excel. On another side, I have used excel to map items, mobs, and notes from Minecraft. I know there are some community wiki with exceptional information about everthing Minecraft, but having my own excel makes it easy to calculate things since I always play in survival mode and I need to efficiently mine/trade all things to a certain amount of items before I'm able to dupe them infinitely.

[@Nate-bd8fg]

I've seen a post about an old guy who exclusively used excel, even if he had a google link to something, he would write out the address in excel and make it a hyperlink. You remind me of him

[@jolenecoda]

You're actually one of the greatest channels on this site oh my god.

[@EeveeFromAlmia]

Esports is better than physical sports because you really can just do anything. Defcon has an entire onsent contest every year it's fantastic.

[@charlessmith299]

Been a SU&SD fan forever and only just found this channel and loving it!

[@victrium1642]

Word World Championship. Challenge 5 (difficulty 5/5): Reposition this picture without fucking up the entire document's layout

[@Quinns_Quest]

YES edit: for real though how would you achieve this in Word

[@TehPwnographer]

This is some top tier content you guys, so insightful, interesting, and fresh. Keep it up!!

[@rafakruczek5622]

I often say "Most of casual users use about 1% of functionalities/potential of Excel, and experts use about... 8% " :)

[@mbillard]

Really fun video, nice job on the visuals! There are 3D CAD competitions as well that might be interesting to cover here.

[@ReyhanJoseph]

😭 wow the world really does have everything

[@Ang3lUki]

As someone who got Excel certifications in high school, this excites me so much!!!!! I know Excel can be played like a fiddle with enough experience, I need to practice and get in on this!

[@lizardqueen273]

Can't believe the Olympics chose stupid mobile phone game archery to represent e-sports over Excel. (Obviously I know they didn't choose it because it was the height of skill based games, but because they got bribed by the publisher)

[@Andrew-ss7jd]

12:52 reminds me of programming - why spend 5 minutes doing something manually when you can spend 6 hours failing to automate it

[@rafaeltheraven]

Sad that they didn’t interview Makro. I know he hasn’t really been relevant since the Balmercon 2020 fiasco, but he was incredibally important for the scene and the community would not be like it is if it wasn’t for him. For better and for worse.

[@witteverheul]

Totally agree, the Xlookup thing was really BS. Only reason he lost was due to the Chinese localization thing. MAKRO = 🐐