Getting an "F" in Finance | The People's Court

[@kimberlyrawls8618]

As a former teacher I would NEVER use a service like this. Period.

[@themadmillionaire]

Wow! The plaintiffs have found a lil niche. Our educators deserve better 😮

[@Derriayers]

Agreed, but also an educator should be wiser than to sign that nonsense contract

[@locahermosa8144]

That's crazy over $2,000 of that lady's hard earned money. This is a scam and should be illegal

[@sufferedlearnedchanged]

Or you could not sign a contract that you didn't read......

[@chemystrypassionfyre729]

Unbelievable. They tried to say if you apply on your own, you wont get a job, meanwhile the plantiff got TWO teaching jobs by herself, so what on earth are they talking about. I cant believe they can get away with such practices

[@lj6180]

This company is a scam and should be put out of business!!!

[@sweetcandykane1]

This contract is ridiculous. This is why it's so important to read before you sign.

[@ec-kj4yp]

Wow, 60 percent of a months salary! That contract is BS.

[@VladmirPoopN]

I can't imagine giving up 40% of my salary to people who happened to find me a job.

[@LIVEINPEACE2023]

It’s just one month & she wasn’t having any luck on her own.

[@rcbrooks1123]

@@LIVEINPEACE2023 I agree with you. The average teacher in New York State in the public school system starts out around $55-$60,000 a year and can accelerate up to about $97,000 a year. I just looked it up. So if a company was to find someone a position that has that ultimate earning potential I don’t think that 60% of one months salary is an unreasonable fee. I think the problem here is that people respond To the 60% of one months salary as a fee as being very high when actually securing a job with such earning potential and benefits makes that fee very reasonable.

[@dawndellynnkral6222]

Damn. I'll do my own job search

[@blurrble5]

What a predatory contract!

[@curiousnarwhal]

How is it predatory?

[@thatvalensteingirl]

​@@curiousnarwhalthat simply submitting an application is signing a contractual obligation with them. Imagine if any actual job tried that, that simply applying to work there means they're employing you-- but in limbo -- and they can sue you for not showing up when they finally decide you can work.

[@VladmirPoopN]

​@@curiousnarwhalwhat exactly do you not understand?

[@VladmirPoopN]

​@@thatvalensteingirlbesides the fact that you owe 60% of your paycheck to the plaintiffs when you are working.

[@curiousnarwhal]

@@VladmirPoopN It is a one-time fee that amounts to 60% of one month's salary for a job that you could potentially have for decades. It isn't 60% of your salary every month.

[@catherinesisk4369]

60% is ridiculous. Teachers are needed so badly you don't need to hire scammers.

[@LelelapoeteSpeaks]

READ BEFORE YOU SIGN ANYTHING!

[@6Summerville]

That’s BS and highway robbery. They didn’t deserve it! I hope they’re out of business for taking advantage of teachers. They deserve more respect than these thieves!!!

[@biancabarbour3325]

wow they sound like loan sharks, they should be ashamed

[@fumblingiraffe]

i work in the staffing/recruiting industry and absolutely never work with an agency charging YOU. the business pays the agency to find someone for them. i’ll tell you there’s nothing more satisfying then getting someone a job that has been out of work or in a bad job, and that smug look the plaintiff made when she realized she was going to win was disgusting. honestly i don’t know how they even manage to stay in business because so much of agencies’ success comes from getting referrals from candidates you’ve placed and no one is ever going to recommend these people. sixty percent of one month of a teachers salary is disgusting and they should absolutely be ashamed of themselves

[@mikesteele05]

In teacher recruiting, the school pays the commission BUT if the teacher breaks the contract and resigns before the year is up, the teacher has to reimburse the school. In this instance, she broke her contract. Since the school never paid the recruiter, she can’t reimburse them and instead has to pay the recruiter directly.

[@fumblingiraffe]

@@mikesteele05she owed her money because she got a job at the same school the agency had submitted her to not because she left in under a year

[@mikesteele05]

@@fumblingiraffe under normal circumstances, the SCHOOL pays the commission to the agency. The reason the agency sued the teacher and not the school is because the teacher broke her contract with the school. If a teacher breaks contract with the school, the teacher pays the commission (either by reimbursing the school or directly to the agency, depending on whether or not the school already paid the agency).

[@jlavreano]

Teachers are already underpaid, so to want 60% to help someone get a job is just vile.

[@schoolgreed9203]

Why even sue this lady. Smh

[@MALAINASCOTT]

It's a scam and I'm glad it came to court at an early state. The defendant can move on for this predatory company.

[@XFiorentti]

She got scammed. It's ashame.

[@XFiorentti]

First time I hear of an agency that charges the jobseeker. Bullsh1t!!..never pay an agency to find you a job.

[@toddgrooten700]

The plaintiffs are frauds

[@kennethbaker5223]

How so?

[@BlackKnight_755]

I beg to differ... they had a contract that was signed by the TEACHER who should have read it. It was clearly defined in the contract that she owed them if she was hired within one year by anyone that the plaintiff sent the resume to.

[@kimricautumn6918]

@@BlackKnight_755 it's more about their after case interview saying you won't get a job without them and that they have inside info.

[@ggboot1]

@@kimricautumn6918 She didn't say that people won't get a job. She said people are moreso likely to get a job with their assistance.

[@toddgrooten700]

@@BlackKnight_755 I don't dispute that.

[@thankthelord4536]

Scammers. 60%?

[@Cubanflowers]

hi.. yes..number 1 scammers.. in the world.. for centuries they have been scamming people.... be blessed

[@thebookwasbetter3650]

Worked with plenty of recruiters in accounting. They generally get 30% of the annual salary. So yes 12-18k for placing someone is not uncommon. Except the employer pays it, not the recruit.

[@MagnolyiaGrace]

Right. They probably just sent her resume to all the schools in her area and acted like they were special contacts. Now if she sends her own resume herself which she did, she gets scammed.

[@brittneyrobinson2761]

Damn, 60%???

[@newsflash7609]

60% of one month's salary. That's 5% of the annual salary. That's pretty typical for a recruiter. For executive level positions, it's often 10%. The issue here is those fees are usually paid by the employer, not the job-seeker. She shouldn't have agreed to this, unless she wanted a very specific type of position she couldn't secure on her own.

[@mikesteele05]

@@newsflash7609she seems to have broken her contract with the school and found another job elsewhere. Typically, the employer pays the commission. But when a teacher breaks the contract, the teacher ends up reimbursing the school for the commission (in this instance, paying the recruiter directly because the school never paid the recruiter).

[@schoolgreed9203]

I was thinking same thing that’s high. That’s almost giving up one months check

[@newsflash7609]

@@mikesteele05 I don't think that's the case, here. It's clear the contract in this case was between the recruitment firm and the applicant. The type where the employer pays is an agreement between the recruitment firm and the employer (e.g., the headhunter has an agreement in place with the given employer). Here, the employer and the recruitment firm were at arms-length---the applicant can't contract on their behalf. The defendant agreed to cover this fee.

[@mikesteele05]

@@newsflash7609 it’s hard to know exactly what happened because we’re not looking at the contract. I’ve worked with teacher placement agencies before. They contract with teachers and schools.

[@ls253]

Imagine making it HARDER for teachers to get jobs! Should be illegal .

[@osmaknn9778]

This is a such a sham, especially when the people said they played no part in hiring her, sounded like they didn’t consider her when she was with the company.. smh..

[@theresacoringgray6885]

WHAT A SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! 😮

[@claz7307]

My husband is a teacher and has been 14 years in multiple districts in multiple states and we have never needed a service.

[@mikesteele05]

@@claz7307 these placement agencies are for independent schools, not public schools.

[@ItsDezz]

What 60%???? They didn't even do her resume for her. You can submit your own application and resume for yourself free.

[@Izzy__123]

60%???! Almost $3,000??!!! I’m sick

[@kanishiacravin6883]

Ridiculous

[@rcbrooks1123]

But she ended up with the job that was paying $6000 a month. That’s about 70+ thousand dollars a year. You don’t think the plaintiffs deserve something based on the contract that she signed? 11:32

[@Izzy__123]

@@rcbrooks1123 girl did I say that?

[@dance4life1208]

No robert... Because they didn't get her a job

[@rcbrooks1123]

@@dance4life1208 you will need to watch the show again. The judge explains that the contract says that if you get any job at all during the contractual period, whether they get it for her or she gets it herself, they get their commission. The judge explained how when you sell a piece of real estate it’s the same way when you list with an agent.

[@warrenmooney9422]

That company is a bunch of crooks.

[@themalissa]

Well that was complete nonsense; if she didn’t get the job they referred her to then why should they get paid?

[@not_thedroids871]

You didn't watch the entire episode, did you?

[@themalissa]

@@not_thedroids871 Actually I did and I still don’t agree with it; a person should only be compensated if their actions equal results.

[@user-vf6ru8gm9p]

If you still don't understand after watching the whole episode all I can tell you is please read a contact before signing.

[@themalissa]

@@user-vf6ru8gm9p All I understand is that you’re looking to go back and forth instead of respecting that everyone has a difference of opinion. You’re entitled to yours and I’m entitled to mine even if you don’t agree with it.

[@cynthiaprice3528]

You are right they didn’t deserve a pay out but since she signed the contract she is bound by her agreement. 60% is highway robbery and she was right you can find your own job, that service is not worth it.

[@finally97]

I wonder who else they have robbed. I thought that headhunters worked with executives, not average joes. They better be careful. Their contract sounds like the payday loan company that was sued for not being clear about their fees and responsibilities. If I'm paying a headhunter, you better believe that they are going to do more than send out my resume and cover letter. Their job is get me the job for 60% of my check. The fact that the school didn't even consider her means that the company didn't hustle for her. They breached the contract. They are essentially a high priced Indeed employment business. And we all know that you can't get legit work on Indeed.🤷🏽‍♀️ Did the plaintiff stand there and say that you won't get a job listening to the defendant. She not only got one job, she got two ON HER OWN. Girl, bye! As Hallway guy says, that's true of every job.🤣 where's the older guy so that he could have set them straight?😂😂

[@mikesteele05]

Teacher recruiters place teachers in independent schools. Theoretically, they get schools access to highly qualified, specialized talent. But nowadays, it’s largely charter placements.

[@MidNovembersDreamaugnov]

​@mikesteele05 Be quiet, you BOT! No one agrees with your sentiments, goodbye!

[@Love1010P]

Whew 😥 I really learned a valuable lesson from this case.

[@delenareed9731]

Lesson here NEVER sign documents without reading and comprehending what you may be signing!!!

[@mikesteele05]

Teachers, you don’t need these placement agencies!!! These companies used to be ways for prep schools to find highly qualified, specialized talent. Now, they just want to place you in charter schools because it’s quick and there are a million openings (because charter schools have horrid turnover). Usually, the school pays the commission, BUT if you leave the school before your contract is up, YOU end up paying the commission. Plus if you apply on your own, you can often negotiate a higher salary because the school doesn’t have the expense of paying a commission.

[@The_Snowowl]

This was like 12 years ago lol nice PSA though

[@mikesteele05]

@@The_Snowowl teacher placement agencies still exist. They didn’t disappear when this case aired on TV.

[@ah-kl6dp]

60% I never knew the person getting hired would pay

[@DarylBrown-j7m]

The deffendent is buertiful ❤ nice respectful

[@gbosearcher-3686]

Teachers are in short supply! What scam artists!

[@lescobrandon9693]

Uh no. A teacher that can’t read, pleasssssseeeere.

[@Lifeofcandyce]

This is legal scamming lol

[@reiclyne]

Jeezus christ, teachers get paid shit as it is and the plaintiffs are getting nearly 3K out of her 😩

[@jennifer_mertens]

A legitimate recruiter is paid by the school/employer. This agency is one of those that preys on desperate people that don't know any better. Very much like those car lots that pay you cash for your car and give you about 10 percent of the value. Just because the contract is legal and abides by DOE guidelines, doesn't mean it's not sleazy AF.

[@mikesteele05]

Schools pay the recruiters but if teachers break their contracts and resign before the year is up (like she did), the teacher has to pay. The school isn’t going to eat that expense.

[@MidNovembersDreamaugnov]

You've already stated this multiple times, AI machine. ​@mikesteele05

[@MidNovembersDreamaugnov]

Vultures.

[@TaylorMae1985]

60% of one months salary!!!! 😮😮😮 what idiot would sign up with them?! Lord people get jobs everyday by themselves! Cow!

[@aliciamackie5876]

They are predatory. 60% my gosh.

[@mrsa2you365]

Teachers don't get paid enough to have to fork over 60% of their money to these people! What a scam!

[@LIVEINPEACE2023]

The 60% of one month’s salary could be worth it. The agency has been vetted by the employer. That saves the employer time and money! They may have never looked at her application without the agency.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

60% is a ridiculous commission

[@genevievelangan253]

Wow, she learned a good lesson. Plus, 60% of a months salary thats crazy. When the judge said verdict for the plaintiff, you should have seen that ol mans face. He nodded like in his head he was so happy to get over 2500$ for nothing but her signature on that contract. Like the judge said, she would have never signed something like that. Period. I've learned a lesson also. Do it yourself if you're capable too. Obviously, she was capable, and it costed her lots. Poor teacher. God bless her heart and hope she makes lots of money in her future ❤

[@tia.n.watson]

I guess she’s paying for the initial narrowing down list for schools.Lesson is read all the contracts we sign.

[@XFiorentti]

The defendant got scammed. The way it works with agencies is the way the defendant stated. Candidates don't pay the a genuine.

[@MagnolyiaGrace]

Even the judges example of selling a house eluded to that. The seller would be the employer while the buyer who generally pays no commission would be the employee.

[@courtneyiam1572]

Omg they’re literally scammers! Lord please read these contracts, this is crazy.

[@EmeEeGeeGee]

60%! they need to be sued that’s ridiculous

[@curiousnarwhal]

Why should they be sued? They provide a service, and the charges are plainly stated. It is a one-time fee for a job that someone could potentially have for many years. Nobody forced anyone to sign the contract and agree to the service charge.

[@satiashaw1857]

​@@curiousnarwhal I agree that suing is too much, but I absolutely disagree that they held up their end of the bargain. A contract requires both ends being held up and they didn't do anything for her at all for months, by their own admission. If they do not perform the service they contract, she shouldn't be held to her end of the contract either. They broke it first.

[@OverlordZeroULTIMA]

My favorite thing about contracts is when they say "I have read and understand...", like I'm supposed to understand those long ass technical, legal terms when I've not read a single contract IN MY LIFE... And they're always super long, like yeah, I've got time to read for longer than I'll probably spend time doing interviews...I guess that's a reason why people would have you sign to agree - because most people are just gonna skim or go to the last page and just sign.

[@shannoncarlson6960]

60% is ridiculous! Thank goodness everything is online now to stop these companies from ripping people off. I have worked for loads of headhunters in big cities and never paid 60%.

[@adventuresconjuan]

The defendant is right

[@thebookwasbetter3650]

Accountant here. I don't even bother with applying for jobs anymore. I work with recruiters. So much easier. But I've only heard of one recruiter who makes you pay. Usually the company that hires you pays. And it is alot. 60% of one month's salary for navigating the NYC public school system actually sounds like a steal if you want a job in NYC. Most of the recruiters I work with charged companies 30% of an annual salary. So 12-18k fee is not uncommon.

[@sarahslogic8481]

60% is INSANE!!!

[@_ndimamadu]

That’s an outrageous contract

[@SimplyNina1]

The plaintiff with the smirk at the end... wow what a joke, happy to robb someone

[@katem3667]

I went through employment agencies for every job (about 3 or 4) I had in the D.C. area when I was young spanning something like 17 years and never had to pay a fee. Things sure have changed.

[@kay22100]

That contract is crazy!!

[@queenbee3828]

Naw. Sixty is highway robbery.

[@rassbombo8136]

If anyone should pay a fee it should be the school, not the poor teacher.

[@hadley407]

It’s just like when a realtor wants you to sign an exclusive listing contract on your home for a year. Change the terms. Ask for 1 month. Ask for 2 months.

[@shanakai02]

60%?! Such snakes! I hope they go out of business

[@CreamTheRabbit8394]

This was over 12 years ago. Now schools are begging for teachers. Teachers can now take their pick on where they want to work. Most of all, I bet the Plaintiffs are no longer in business.

[@robenrox]

I looked them up and it seems as though they are gone.

[@DeenaLandstrom]

The plaintiffs sent out the defendants resume originally but the defendants resume was "overlooked" therefore the defendant WAS NOT hired at that time. Then the defendant sent her resume to the school herself at a later time & was hired. So how do the plaintiffs get the credit for the defendant getting a job? And a little over $2800 seems a bit much for their "commission". I would sign no such contract unless it was guaranteed they could & would find me a job.

[@milklocket]

Everyone within reach of my comment!: Never agree to an employment agency that charges YOU, the candidate, and not the employer! I have done a bunch of contract work, and never had to pay the agency! So ridiculous! I cannot get over the 60% of ONE MONTH’S SALARY? GET OUT.

[@pmabrouk]

the plaintiffs are incorrect and misleading teacher applicants. Apply direct!

[@d.wright6635]

Some employers only hire through these agencies so it's not an option to do your own job search.

[@gingerdezelich2155]

Read Read Read your contracts!

[@melnicole7902]

If this was judge Mathis courtroom he would have deemed that contract illegal and used an example of predatory lending practices. The plaintiffs are scammers and should be shut down! 60% of a teachers, one month salary is preposterous.

[@CanyouseewhatIs33]

Didn’t know this was a thing! In the UK the employer pays the recruiter

[@sammhammiam]

I wonder if they're still scamming teachers?

[@jeepsishumate2021]

beware of those scammers ********

[@amandamatheny3675]

my main piece of evidence and making that decision is the letter from the school itself saying that they did not consider her until she sent them her résumé. If they had received her résumé for the other position and she didn't get the job but then they had her résumé on file and referred to it to reach out to her offering her a different position or offering her to apply for a different position based on the résumé that the staffing agency originally sent them then I would say yes the staffing agency gets a cut but that's not how this one went down

[@Bebedollie]

Any one using the plaintiff's services would never, if they actually knew and understood that they would be taking 60%

[@songbird501]

That contract is ludicrous. I don't know what planet they live on but on Earth and in the United States particularly, there's a substantial teacher shortage especially in Special Education. Teachers don't need a scammy agency like this one to help them find a job.

[@dbattest]

Wow, what a scam! She should have gone to Judge Judy!

[@Sasha-71]

Why is everyone saying they're a scam 😂😂 she seeked them out, and bottom line READ THE CONTRACT! they did nothing wrong

[@arianefr78]

So that agency just has to send out your CV everywhere, after you sign their contract and so if someone hires you on your own doing, you still owe 60% of your first month's wage. That is a legal scam but should not be allowed...

[@svtskys62]

60% is an insane amount holy cow

[@lawriesaxton7645]

The Coronel only stole 50% of Elvis' money. Geez, these people are thieves. This frightening. Our teachers deserve better.

[@asiahwalker7940]

Damn 60%!

[@richardwilson7942]

60%. I say no thank you.

[@zoeg7985]

I really loathe opportunist like the plaintiffs

[@flamethedragon1193]

Trucks drivers and teachers are the back bone of America! This is crazy

[@chynacash3138]

Those plaintiffs robbed that poor teacher 🤬 They were just a couple of opportunistic predatory scammers.

[@commander37]

teachers are already struggling to get paid a fair wage. Having this plaintiff's predatory business to deal with is just insult to injury.

[@ArtrishaAnderson]

READ READ READ. Before u sign

[@Prettypinkpolish_]

This place is a scam! I thought teachers didn’t make enough money

[@aliciapriest7061]

This teacher made ONLY $4,681.55 for one month while living in NYC and these ppl took 60% of that for the first month... Knowing that most ppl would not read that contract as they are just clicking buttons to post their resume... omg what a rip off..

[@sisilyte7]

Listen, I wonder how many people they ripped off with that percentage because man that’s a high amount and they don’t guarantee you the job

[@salihahwilliams1453]

I would never pay a soul to find me work . I’ve been employed by agencies before but they never charged me they’d get commission from whatever employer I was placed with . I feel terrible for the defendant they are some scammers FORREAL 60% is crazy !

[@kafkal2281]

What I wouldn't give to trade places with the observers in the back falling asleep! 😁

[@diahannab5072]

What the hell is going on in New York, job hunters scamming, brokers it crazy. Can’t live or work with help yet they charging like crazy. Thought this was a 503c

[@MBRHUB]

WOW! 60% of a teacher's salary....they have no shame in their recruiting game.

[@amandamatheny3675]

This is an iffy case and I tend to understand the perspectives of both sides but considering that the school said they didn't consider her at all when the staffing agency sent her résumé and didn't consider her until she sent it to them on her own, I would say she found herself that job and therefore doesn't owe the staffing agency anything.

[@arianefr78]

WHAT? I don't agree with the judge, the agency sent her CV for one job which she did NOT even get an interview for, later she then applies for a different job at the same school and gets the job, how in any way or form was that the agency's doing? Especially as she had a statement from the school stating that they did not hire her on the basis of the first CV application but on the second application that she did on her own...

[@blazingfire8794]

This is why i won't use employment agencies unless the employer is paying it

[@brittbritt4661]

60% is insane

[@essie2459]

Paying someone almost $3000 for something for something you could’ve done yourself is WILD! But I guess when you start a business, it’s your job to convince people that they “need” you 🙄

[@0LadyV0]

Plaintiffs are grifters.

[@memem5976]

Wow this must be a NY thing! I've never heard of this.

[@RMH-nu1dd]

Merely making out an application should not legally obligate you. Of course, she should have read the contract first. Paying for this "inside" information seems kind of crappy. I mean, what do these agencies actually do for you? I had to get out of a similar situation but I was only 17 when I signed and they didn't even ask. HA! 60%? They could offer their "services" for far less. Because they don't really do anything.

[@kristinahighlander2529]

The market isn’t tough for teachers, it’s desperate