(Second passage) My painting isn’t good until it goes under. I mean that the original intention, the smart and clever - that you always have when you start on a painting… The first evening I think it’s all great, intelligent and clever. The next morning I can see that it’s not enough to make a painting. Paintings which are done like this and just look pretty - and grippingly colouristic, that’s not enough - if there is no structure within, a solid skeleton. I cannot start by making this structure. The right structure slowly emerges from the picture. I often start my paintings by wiping my brush on the canvas. This creates a kind of mashed potatoes or swamp. I want to get to the point where I control that. Or put it under some kind of control - which is not rigid, but rather a commitment. I have to commit myself to this potato mash. I do that by keeping on painting. Along the way I alternate - between premeditated interventions, which nearly always go under… So the control, as I called it, emerges from the nature of the painting itself. I think painters are really good at daring. Risking something which at first glance looks good, also to me. “Now I can put it with the finished paintings.” But it’s always taken up again, and I sacrifice what was good. As a painter you constantly want to overcome your own virtuosity, but at the same time you strive for virtuosity. Interviewer: And what lies beneath that? A process of recognition? Yes. And that something must have a price. I prove to myself that it has a price. That thing about painting over what looks good at first glance. But one builds on ruins. And something even better is created.
@AssociationEpione315 жыл бұрын
Fascinating artist and intelligent work. ' A good painting with holes is better than a bad one without holes.'
@lucretiaonutube4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - great interview.
@palaceofknots9 жыл бұрын
the visuals at the end pack a very powerful punch!
@palaceofknots9 жыл бұрын
thanks to you folks for this introduction to this great artist
@tonsfocus7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this excellent interview with a giant in the painting world. I typed up two passages for easy cut-and-paste sharing. When you look outside, you never see clearly or innocently. People carry a lot of baggage. Interviewer: But aren’t there more layers? I mean, I look outside - and I see the trees and the light. That’s what I see first. Then I start looking for a kind of system. Those leaves are hanging down because the trunk ends there. But I don’t see that first. What I see first is innocent, in a way. So to what extent or when - is the innocence of the first observation replaced by structure? When I paint and repeat the same things over and over again, I see them quicker in nature. So this profession has a certain loss of innocence, if you will. Interviewer: Do you really need to see any more? Do you have to look at the garden? Yes, absolutely.
@SA-xg5eo5 жыл бұрын
tonsfocus I had it in mind to pick out this bit from the interview too. Thank you.
@aryehfinklestein90416 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for introducing me to a wonderful artist. I found it fascinating ( at 2:05 ) that the painter himself says, looking at a large work, "it's striking that there's this openness in the middle...", as if referring to a piece by someone else.
@davidmagoon2562 Жыл бұрын
What delighted me about this interview, is that the interviewer seemed to persist in trying to analyze, contextualize, and make sense of the work, while the interviewee bent and squirmed and effectively escaped from any box he and his paintings were being put in. I found it amusing and kind of meta somehow.
@soohahn2 жыл бұрын
Great interview
@olusha7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful thank you very much
@rte66pawnshop6 жыл бұрын
When they arrive at, one way or another; "...being a painter is a shitty job" (and they all do), you know they're good. Interesting sculpture, too! Hope to see it all someday. RIP.
@petrvaclavek82599 жыл бұрын
pro mě Kirbey překvapení a jeho obrazy super.
@olusha7 жыл бұрын
Ano- máš pravdu
@jdemeulenaer1236 жыл бұрын
WHEN HE SAYS that as an artist you never know whether you are governed by content or by the structure"....this simply means that you are governed by intuition and emotions..in intuition and emotions there are no structure nor there are content....Right sir..?
@markuspietari5 жыл бұрын
No, that’s superficial. Acknowledging that you’re not in full control of the painting in formation is an essential part of the process. Same as in writing, etc. That’s always true in some extent, no matter how much you try to control the process.
@MrFalckenhagen4 жыл бұрын
Ich bin begeistert.
@lordspucke89386 жыл бұрын
sad news today.please paint heaven green mr.kirkeby
@uw4ntsum3422 жыл бұрын
4:55 When Per talks about "insight" the translation does not properly convey what he means. 'Insikt' is more a notion than an intelligent deduction. Instinctual, not logical. What I gather from his description of the process is that he tries to rid himself of the trappings of the active mind and instead uses his subconscious. A practice of Jungiang philosophy I think and the fact that he's been able develop a method out of it speaks to the genius.
@DS-xy1rg5 жыл бұрын
Important à savoir
@galas0625 жыл бұрын
he should of built more buildings, and been an architect.....besides his brick sculpture...
@humfreycollins2422 Жыл бұрын
The Emperor's New Clothes
@MatthewBrowne1959 Жыл бұрын
Oh dear....another uninformed philistine rears their head. Better sink down again and stay out of sight.