The New Elden Ring Patch Allows For Some PRETTY INSANE BUILDS

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[@madbrosheo1514]

Seeing BullGoats get staggered so often brings a tear to my eye.

[@dream8870]

of joy right? tears of joy?

[@madbrosheo1514]

@@dream8870 Oh, but of course.

[@cosesu8929]

​@@madbrosheo1514I was going to say

[@kerronhackshaw3632]

So the poise talisman is totally useless now or something?

[@madbrosheo1514]

@@kerronhackshaw3632 I assume it’s about as useful as the wolf ring in DS3. Not useless, but a bit more niche.

[@BilliamTorpedo]

Barbaric roar was the first thing my mind went to when i saw its basically ds3 poise now. Good af if its guaranteed to stun

[@SaganTheKhajiit]

That and whips.

[@mrbenman97]

16:00 I love how that 500hp mage used that one safe moment to drink a blue flask

[@SirTimbo]

The mage can't attack you, without a sip of that blue

[@mrbenman97]

@@SirTimbo Sure he needs blue to cast, but surely it would be better to swap to a straight sword or dagger, and heal. Or even just run away and heal

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

@@SirTimbo he also can't attack if his skull gets shattered by a massive piece of iron.

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

Least stupid INT user

[@Vulpigles]

@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 that, my man, is the perfect philosophy.

[@m.a.dmatt6689]

I am really digging the armor combination you used here. Didn't think how well the imp heads would look on the eccentric set

[@zawurdo5184]

Works also really well on the land of reeds chest. The furry/straw stuff on the back makes oyu look like some japanese golem.

[@daddyissues8388]

Yeah almost like an Elden Ring Krampus. I like it too

[@SaganTheKhajiit]

I love how half of the people love poise being gone and the other half hates it. I don't think I've ever seen a patch so polarizing.

[@br3hbmc79]

It worries me tbh, I loved ds3's system but I think it created some pitfalls regarding lightweight weapons being super cheesy, Murky and straightsword cancels are up there Also they should fix the vertical deadzones on ranged atta ks if they havent already

[@SaganTheKhajiit]

@@br3hbmc79 It does make faster weapons more cheesy, but in my opinion that's easier to manage than many weapons being unviable because anyone with a small measure of poise will walk right through your attacks. The vertical deadzones were implemented on purpose, so it's a change rather than a fix. And all that means is that it takes longer to get done.

[@trevordillon1921]

Probably because it does, in part, walk back a core part of the PvP’s identity. DS3 was basically known for its hyperarmor over poise approach. While I had no issues with that, it’s certainly interesting to be back there again after what, 2 years or so of the game being out? I think my biggest issue with it, and I imagine it would be a large portion of others as well, is the fact that the old passive system is near entirely gone. A blend of the two would probably have been great, but instead we have what is essentially the same as DS3, and while I look forward to the return of slow, powerful weapons into the meta, I do wish passive poise remained in some capacity.

[@khajiitimanus7432]

Personally, I quit DS3 back in 2019 because of the hyper armor poise system. Thinking and reflecting on DS3 for years to discover just why I hated it, all answers I can find point to the hyper armor system being the core root of the problem. Armor was worthless, great weapons were obscenely outperformed by smaller counterparts, and PvP balance was atrociously out of wack, with only Dexterity and Quality builds even being _viable._ Strength builds were useless if they didn't use axes or hammers, and although this second part isn't affected by armor poise, magic damage from spells were just straight-up nonexistent. Dark Souls 1 was broken by poor number balance. Dark Bead does too much damage and has too low of a stat requirement. That's the main example, but it repeats and reappears with a wide array of weapons and spells, with many either being overpowered or underpowered due to raw numbers or animations. There's also the issue of how ridiculously easy it is to land backstabs, which turns all melee PvP into 5 minutes o Ring Around the Rosie while players look for a backstab opportunity. Dark Souls 2 (original and SotFS edition) was broken by the Soul Memory mechanic making multiplayer horrifically difficult to connect. The game had a fair few issues besides that, but they were all practically nonexistent issues (with the exception of some mildly questionable level design, but I find it holds up well enough today, so... whatever) - but Soul Memory broke the game, making it impossible to really do any multiplayer reliably. The core game mechanics of DS2, funnily enough, were actually outright perfect when one excludes Soul Memory. DS2 just needs a reimagining with the exact same mechanics (excluding Soul Memory). Bloodborne had no major issue. The game is damn near perfect - the only flaw is that some weapons are just completely worse than others, but that's largely a non-issue, since that only applies to like one or two weapons in the game. Bloodborne is basically perfect - just needs a remaster for graphics and frame rate. Dark Souls 3 was broken by the lack of passive poise and the absurd feebleness of spell damage. Caster builds just didn't work unless you went melee (a Crystal infused Lothric Straight Sword without any boosters does more damage than a cast of Crystal Soul Spear with every possible spell booster). Straight Swords and Maces/Clubs outdamaged literally every other melee weapon, too - and the armor system didn't allow users of great weapons to trade and stagger them. So really, the insult was that R1 spamming was the meta. If they couldn't trade, then they wouldn't have been able to R1 spam. Although the absurd raw damage of straight swords and the Mace on top of it all also detracted heavily. I didn't fully know it at the time, but before I realized this in it's entirety, I always described the utter wrongness of DS3 as "Dark Souls without the right rhythm or tempo." In hindsight, this is because DS3 tried too hard to use the successes of Bloodborne, and forgot that Dark Souls is set to an entirely different pace - I fully believe that the reason why DS3 developed these horrific failures is because it just tried to emulate Bloodborne too much, when Bloodborne simply didn't belong in Dark Souls's melody. I'm forever salty by how much DS3 was a let down to me. Dark Souls: Remastered attempted to look like it fixed anything. It made things worse. It introduce the password matchmaking system, which was definitely good, but it also introduced weapon matchmaking, which restricted matchmaking based on a weapon's upgrade level. Recall that the original Dark Souls 1 had horribly unbalanced weapons - to an absurd range. This meant that, anyone who was using weapons to prey upon new players suddenly couldn't - but spells weren't restricted, so everyone started using Dark Bead instead. Weapon matchmaking killed DS1 because they didn't bother to fix the original problems - and funnily enough, by removing the ability for people to prey on newer players with overpowered weapons, the devs also removed any possible way to combat Dark Bead spammers at low levels - so multiplayer interactions just don't exist at lower levels in DS: Remastered, and that's an absolute shame. I will say that Blight Town is quite lovely in the Remastered version, though - you can actually have a frame rate, unlike the original DS1. I'm emotionally wounded by how lackluster the Remaster of Dark Souls 1 is. And now, Elden Ring. I don't know enough to definitively pin a problem, but if I had to guess, it'd be raw damage being far too high - both in PvP and in PvE. That could've been easily fixed by improving armor (and maybe doing mild adjustments to enemies and bosses to give them more health - especially with Morgott and Godfrey) but except for that one update which buffed armor poise, they've only ever nerfed armor since then. And now, without the passive poise system, they might just remake the mistakes of DS3 - turning armor functionally useless and depreciating bigger weapon types. I hold no illusions. DS3 sucked, PvE and PvP. I feel most people like it because it hit a lot of traction and was simply just what was popular. DS2 had the best gameplay - stunted only by questionable level design/enemy placement and a piss poor online matchmaking system. Elden Ring is good, but I think that removing passive poise was quite possibly the worst possible thing that could've been done. I've ranted a lot now. I don't usually get too opinionated, but in regards to poise and armor mechanics in Souls-likes? I will f*cking die on my hill of "passive poise is and will always be a better mechanic than a pure hyper armor system."

[@khajiitimanus7432]

​​​​​​​​​@@trevordillon1921Personally, I'd argue that the greater emphasis on hyper armor detracts more on heavy weapons, particularly because this new update seems to have granted hyper armor to smaller weapons now. Heavy weapons niche role of bypassing a need for armor poise has been entirely scraped. Now more players will just invest in smaller weapons that attack faster, leading back into an aggressive play-style meta that will destroy the viability of great weapons and colossal weapons, which thrive on a counteractive and defensive play-style. Personally, I see the scrapping of passive poise as an omen of death to the versatility of Elden Ring PvP. The memories of the utter sh*tshow that was DS3's PvP are too recent, and part of me is already tempted to just quit Elden Ring on principle before I even properly test the new update myself. Doesn't mean I'm gonna to listen to that temptation, though. I know that's a radical and extremist perspective, but in this instance, I fully embrace that. I genuinely feel that the complete removal of passive poise is an omen of death for Elden Ring - but I'll only know for certain after looking back on the data in a few years. My bias to immediately and viscerally hate a Souls-likes game that lacks poise means that I wouldn't be surprised, but nonetheless I must endeavour to not be led by that bias. I genuinely feel that if the devs took more inspiration out of DS2, it'd have been the best possible outcome. I wish they reintroduced armor upgrades. I wish they reintroduced more armor effects. I wish everything was a little slower and more fluid, with late game boss fights being less about gimmicks that instantly ruin a player's chances (*cough* Malenia in general and Maliketh's raw damage, *cough*) and instead more about endurance battles against a challenging opponent with fair odds of either success or failure. Fume Knight Raime, Sinh the Slumbering Dragon, Sir Alonne, and the Ivory King were all the pinnacles of good boss fights in DS2 - battles of attrition against foes who put a lot of pressure but ultimately could be felled like anyone else. They were appropriately scaled challenges. Not a gimmick boss like Malenia, who regenerates all of the damage inflicted with a few absurdly hard-hitting swings, and who also has an instant kill move, and who casually breaks established game mechanics by randomly breaking out of stun animations. Alas, the implementation of further DS2 stuff is likely not to be.

[@PistolSlinginMothMan]

I like the idea of lowering poise effectiveness in pvp. It discourages straight poise stacking allowing for more build variety and fashion

[@sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf3053]

More build = yet another glass cannon.

[@porkt3887]

​@@sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf3053means you'll do better with straight sword/curve sword/dagger/etc than before

[@ForestX77]

“More build diversity” if by that you mean DS3’s shitty R1 spam then yes.

[@porkt3887]

@@ForestX77 what do you want bruh, how is them making r1s better not a step up from AOW spam? obviously you can't beat anyone decent by mashing what are you even trying to complain about, you wish they'd go back?

[@ForestX77]

@@porkt3887 Yes along with many other players cause unlike Lost or Chase we remember how fucking terrible and ass Ds3’s pvp was cause of R1 spam cause it doesn’t matter how good you are you die to stun locks like everyone else. And ironic how you mention aoe spam when poise was the thing that allowed players to survive it, now aoe spam is free kills.

[@AngelLopez-il9wu]

hell yea love all the uploads

[@kobitz9001]

I love all the roars on long weapons like nagakiba and zweihander. Brogarts used to be my favorite for the variable speed over head chop with hyper armor for mixups and the increased defense which wasn't nerfed in pvp. idk if that's still the case tho.

[@Rexis102]

Still unnerfed. It’s a flat 10% defense buff and it’s different than your regular absorption values. Instead of being additional with diminishing returns, it’s multiplicative and based on the attack hitting you. If you were somehow at 90% Defense, and then used the buff, you wouldn’t be immune but you would still be taking 10% less damage. Still technically has diminishing returns but in a different way.

[@johndang55]

@@Rexis102all buffs are multiplicative except stamina regen.

[@kobitz9001]

@@Rexis102 awesome! thanks for the info! afaik this is the only defensive buff in the game not nerfed in pvp. correct me if I'm wrong!

[@powerless_imp0682]

I’m so happy to not have to worry nearly enough about poise anymore - the fashionista in me can live a little more

[@БезНика-ю1с]

i loved that broken blue, he was so clueless

[@bradleyfitzik2447]

He didn't like the host he was supposed to help. Seen it happen quite a lot lately.

[@amberhernandez]

Lost earlier: "I have six videos ready to go, but they're all pre-patch"

[@amberhernandez]

@9sssss I became a simp for a bearded Norwegian psychopath

[@Metaknight180]

I do love this weapon, so this is certainly an interesting start to the new patch. I'm hoping I can try out dual daggers again and hopefully see some success with twin Reduvias.

[@christophercole1679]

Try single erdtree dagger with last rights and sacred blade. It's so freaking good right now. Already was but now much better. 727 ar at 70 faith. On a dagger. With a nice r2. 👌

[@Gensolink]

i feel dual daggers completely nerfs the daggers moveset, 1 and 2 handed imo is the best

[@christophercole1679]

@@Gensolink yeah duel is so slow. 2 handed is my jam

[@rytlocknroll]

I’m glad they’re letting players go crazy with experimenting ridiculous builds. Makes this game more fun.

[@Rexis102]

I’ve been playing my Roar-based Orc strength build for the last week in Arena and this patch just blessed it lmao

[@oysterlad]

So good that ill see more variety in armor and that my light roll builds just got that much stronger.

[@travisadams6279]

and made heavy and colossal weapons much worse, and they were never top tier to begin with. Im not a fanboy or any particular weapon type but we shouldn't celebrate when one weapon type gets a buff while simultaneously nerfing another arbitrarily.

[@42ZaphodB42]

7:45 Nel was definitely trying to use a homeward bone... All the hosts that suddenly become Usain Bolt once their mates die XD

[@sikstene]

DS3 PvP was my most hated, this just makes me sad because I used to love Elden Ring PvP (and no, I dont use bullgoat. My Poise for pvp was 52)

[@common_undead]

Then this patch literally only benefitted you. Your heavier weapons and some spells have more hyperarmor now.

[@sikstene]

@@common_undead I don't like hyperarmor being attached to weapons

[@sikstene]

@@common_undead I also don't use heavy weapons in Elden Ring, so this only hurt me

[@chihshiangshee9002]

This also means double spear meta is also back unfortunately.

[@killzone110ad]

It never left and always been good.

[@chihshiangshee9002]

@@killzone110ad they nerfed it in 1.08 with the poise reduction values in spears, so it no longer was a guarantee flinch with the double spear hit, but now its basically back to pre patch dual naginata. Remember those?

[@slippyawesome2955]

How’d you make a video so fast?? Didn’t the patch only come out this morning?

[@slippyawesome2955]

@Juniper_Wippersnache that’s what I said. This MORNING. If you read

[@theghosty99]

European time zone. They live in the future

[@t0xis_live830]

@@theghosty99 How is the yesterday? 1:45 here

[@theghosty99]

@@t0xis_live830 still terrible. How's the future?

[@cridus_]

it's his job

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

18:02 It's probably even willing to sacrifice our love, too.

[@Vash141]

18:00 Shit you not, I bit into some ice cream when he said that. I swear Lost is in my walls

[@Kyndral22]

I literally just started pvp the day before this patch and though that poise was a little ridiculous, this seems to be the exact change I wanted lol

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

They removed poise... The lack of poise is why I hate DS3 and love DS1 and 2... now I don't see why I should play elden ring without mods. Unless it's only for poise in PVP.

[@probabilator2959]

I love how that rotbreath guy and his friend had a whole strategy like "you go in and distract then when I breathe on him you go fight" and then just walked into a blender. So satisfying. 🎉😂

[@Felwal115]

Do the same thing with Barbaric Roar but do it on the Godskin Peeler its amazing even before this patch

[@FEMTO11-11]

U upload this while i was watchin a marathon of your vids. Thanks Lost.

[@raelimar8821]

Wonder if repeating thrust/blood tax got hyper armor buff

[@syrupchugger421]

Fun videos, funny commentary, interesting builds, and good style. Thanks for another great video

[@toadskinjim4178]

Flame of the Redmane and the Urumi charge R2 is a true combo. Hope you try it. 🙂

[@spudlover3939]

I feel like barbaric roar would very work well on a nagakiba because of it's range. Maybe frost infused or keen with bloodflame blade/blood grease?

[@common_undead]

Barbaric roar is a weapon buff and would remove bloodflame blade/ grease. Frost infused would be better

[@spudlover3939]

@@common_undead Good to know. Thanks!

[@Gaiden-Shinji875]

@@spudlover3939 Blood infusion wouldn't be that bad on a colossal greatsword. I used it on the Iron Greatsword, Braggart's Roar and the same talismans as Lost is showing. One charged heavy attack procs bleed, activates Lord of Blood's Exultation further buffing attack power. Using charged heavies sparingly and lights for everything else with all of the other buffs (LoBE, Braggart) tends to work well, especially with the crouching thrust. Although the blood buff can be circumvented by using seppuku on a short sword if it seems like landing a charged heavy will be an issue. One charged heavy can either end a fight or bring it close to the end, even when invaded. Barbaric roar with cold infusion is great on a Giant Butcher Knife, with the 1% HP from every hit. I dual wield them, using Rotten Winged Sword Insignia and Millicent's Prosthesis. Pressing L1 twice is enough to build up serious attack power, and then a charged heavy will claim back a small portion of health with every hit if an enemy attacks whilst the hyper armour is active, and can proc frostbite

[@Divinefapper]

Lost, you do know that you don't have to be in menu to use the pouch? Y (triangle?) + up/down/left/right. 7:07

[@PenanceisNigh]

The last clip was hilarious because if the host had eyes, ears, or was actually playing the game(because holy hell that was dense of them) they would have stopped doing the AoW and healing you

[@shinobiofashina2168]

I've always thought mohgs crystal tear should block three bleed procs when used in PvP

[@bazah23]

Or just increase bleed resistance a bit

[@micahhawkins8233]

My favorite weapon in the whole game.. it looks awesome with this patch.. seems to really reward aggression

[@lossfusion]

It’s a shame that axes and hammers are so bad in er

[@excsdee]

@@lossfusion Axes and Greataxes are top tier now because of the more recent patches no?

[@lossfusion]

@@excsdee I would say better but not top tier

[@ThatGuyOrby]

Well this kinda just kills any motivation I had to continue playing PVP, the more Elden Ring PVP tends towards DS3 PVP the worse it is in my opinion. People tend to forget how maddeningly passive DS3 PVP was outside of just R1 spam and how utterly unbalanced lighter weapons were because Poise didn't matter. I do not understand people who think making Heavy Armor basically useless is suddenly a good change especially when it always has and still does require a massive Endurance investment now for literally no benefit. I think I'll stick to watching PVP from now on, because I do not like the way it's going.

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

This is a fair assessment of the situation.

[@Zades145]

bullgoat user detected

[@sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf3053]

I've stopped pvping after separation of pve and pvp balances where defensive talismans just died.

[@SoI_Badguy]

Bloodflame blade on heavy great stars with this setup... jesus. Especially now that the running attack ALWAYS poise breaks now.

[@KingDerek58]

This patch made heavy armor useless, bull goat talisman useless, and ganks even more powerful. I can't express enough how much I hate this patch

[@jacobwendt118]

I’m with you on that 😢

[@thewulf777]

I hate the 1-2 hit system in 3, but I love the hyper armor. This is like...... its what I wanted, but also still kind of bad in half the scenarios. idk. the sillyness I like but there are some things that need heavy tweaking still

[@Apemania69]

do daggers also stagger now? didnt play elden for some time now

[@7HE_W4TCH3R]

I was thinking of doing this but using white mask as well, does it not stack with the talisman?

[@thehellpenguinlordsofthepe8577]

I like some of the change but getting stunlocked by quick weapons, especially when getting ganked, is quite frustrating.

[@goreobsessed2308]

Yeah for the average player I think ganks just got harder.

[@killzone110ad]

​@@goreobsessed2308or easier since now, you can stagger them on command or use hyper armor.

[@thehellpenguinlordsofthepe8577]

@@killzone110ad The thing is, there is no hyper armor when you can't use your weapons because it's on the heavier side... My Hallberd build just got fucked because by the time it take me to launch my attack, I'm already staggered 3 times by fuckers with claws/daggers/fists/curved swords and my health drain by stinky breath

[@timballisto]

@@thehellpenguinlordsofthepe8577 it'll take some time to adjust and figure out what new quirks good and bad come with the patch. For now try some defensive ashes as they received a major buff; stormcaller, black flame tornado and waves of darkness always stun first frame so their great for getting people off your back.

[@thehellpenguinlordsofthepe8577]

@@timballisto True, I'm just sadge most of my big stick weapons, like Hallberd, great swords and the like got kind of the short end of the stick when getting ganked :/ I'll probably go for dual straight swords/defensive ashes... It's funny tho how "defensive weapons" like Great sword and Hallberd (as stated above, probably the ones I liked the most) are now not as good in defensive playstyle because you get staggered before being able to even R1

[@MrJomalley123]

Im getting Vietnam flashbacks when Havels ruled pvp

[@pockystyx4087]

Cool hyper armor axe build :D it's bleed D: I kid; I always loved the warcry-type ashes of war, and always felt they were more suited to dks3's style of poise-working-as-intended gameplay.

[@LL-kv1jk]

Really cool to see the ash viable but damn that comes out WAY too fast for how much you get out of it.

[@br3hbmc79]

If they nerf it I think the damage motion value of the first swings should be lowered, instead of slowing it down, also the hyper armor should be reduced a little Maybe lower the poise damage of the initial hit just so that it true combos a neutral opponent but has variability in a trade, ie. If they trade with a heavier weapon on the first swing, have it so they can roll out unless caught by the second which would stagger them into the rest. Seeing him face-trade into the dual wielding bullgoats guy was crazy, I think getting hit directly by a dual wielding jump attack with two anchors should break the HA

[@bchaps6264]

If the reach on the warped axe was just a little bit longer, it would be amazing.

[@lossfusion]

All axes and hammers could use a range buff

[@JohnShire387]

It makes me wonder if dual daggers are actually good now.

[@07kilswitch]

Build looks nice but lacks range a bit. Do you think barbaric roar cross naginata gives a bit the same outcome? I find the barbaric spear moveset quite funny

[@Zulnahdwiin]

I don't see why they couldn't have nerfed passive poise without making it completely useless while also buffing hyperarmor. This is the first patch I've disagreed with since the game came out. It won't even benefit fashion, because there are so few sets in this game that actually look good together (or on their own, for that matter) to begin with. I suppose the only good thing about this is that players can now get some use out of multi-hit effects like Winged Sword Insignia because you can actually land more than a single hit or two at a time.

[@ShadowAnimeInk]

Can someone tell me what flask combination he's using? I've never seen anyone regain health like that and I want to try it lol

[@Tony_saint]

So does this make guard counters like crazy good now

[@TFGRhinehart]

10:21 He did get hit by the PVE behind you, but the bleed proc you got at the end of the combo would've killed him even without the help.

[@oyvindyt]

wasn't this already a true combo before the patch? I was running this in pvp a couple of months back

[@mushroomsurprise2522]

12:12 The alternative ending for revenge of the sith

[@brunohommerding3416]

Moonveilers never cease to act pathetic in duels or invasions

[@krazyskeletono7382]

So we got lightsabers! Vroom Vum Vum. Lol

[@Capta1nAsh]

I thought we were already on hyperarmour system? Or was I imagining getting staggered by rats when using small weapons?

[@Gensolink]

incredible that it could this many years to makes the roar R2 worth some shit, I always thought those R2 combos were straight downgrades but now they can be useful.

[@snoopdalfdergrune8684]

Very coll build BUT if you think about it roar medalion and highland ace combined boost barbaric roar by 25% i think. So instead of 7.5% more damage and 5 more str you get about 9% more damage and 6 more strength. I think the view more AR you get out of that arent worth the talisman slot and 3 extra endurance you need to achieve that.

[@dream8870]

ahh yess, stormwing arrows are about to be menacing, they already broke poise fairly easily with full bullgoat now they stop you with every shot

[@bradr2891]

just did testing and the roar medallion and highlander axe don't have any affect on my AR. it says for roar and breath attacks so maybe not buffs I guess.

[@common_undead]

Try the heavy attacks after using the buff roars with and without the highland axe or roar medallion, there's definitely a difference.

[@tronero1756]

How's the Ruins Greatsword doing after this update?

[@goreobsessed2308]

It just came out bro doesn't know yet

[@Sonny173]

Upgrade you highland axe amd throw beast roar on it for a long range snipe kill

[@alternatemusicaddict5226]

you need to unlock your target when you need to run away from a gank, it helps you see everyone and your movement isnt messed up by the enemy moving

[@Frensthescandinavian]

What about twinblades now?

[@RickYeezy_]

What’s tears is he using in his Physic flash?

[@minecrashinhard]

So are flails good now?

[@chadsnazzy2634]

I reccomend dual clubs, for it is Better than one

[@GlennYarwood]

So profound bro 🙌

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

No. 1x large club > 2x puny clubs

[@GlennYarwood]

@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 just use two large clubs duh

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

@@GlennYarwood you some kind of clever think man? Because that good idea.

[@doommetalvibes741]

I never really relied on poise, im gonna habe some fun

[@FalloutUrMum]

So far I've noticed that the "Common courtesy" has died a bit after it took a while to bring it in. I'm seeing gank squads again and 1v1s where players rush in while bowing and doing weapon art spamming. I liked DS3 pvp but I'm not liking the players I'm seeing rejoin Elden Ring after this patch

[@blakewarren5709]

No way they just buffed my favorite weapon and ash of war combo this is amazing

[@Feanor1988bis]

So many more weapons should be viable now. I wonder how ashes of war like repeating thrust or blood tax will do now. Damage is still a bit too high though. A nice 30% cut wouldn't be too bad.

[@Virixas_]

Oh hey, I finally joined a stream and my follow notification was in the first clip

[@brendon2028]

What physique do you use?

[@Nick_308]

Personally I think a good starting place for experimentation would be previously poor-performing weapons (hammers/flails lol)

[@thebigenchilada678]

Flails are still bad

[@khajiitimanus7432]

Personally, I have _very_ conflicted feelings about a system that is completely without passive poise. Armor defenses are already terrible in Elden Ring. No poise on top of that just... kinda makes armor more useless. But on the other hand, poise monsters are kinda terrible. I acknowledge , accept, and agree with that. Still, I feel that tanks should have a place in _existing at all._ I personally feel that the better solution would be to take a page out of Syndrome in the Incredibles - "when everyone is super no one is." I'm not too familiar with the new patch yet, but to my understanding from your explanation they completely removed passive poise from PvP - and personally, I feel that completely removing it is an egregious mistake. In my opinion, many armors should be able to poise through at least one or two hits from the regular attacks on straight swords, katanas, axes, and spears, and should completely poise through daggers and throwing knives. I just... don't like the implications of armor being made _more_ useless. For me, personally, it kinda... kills a bit more of whatever enthusiasm I still have left. I argue that other armors should've been poise buffed. Bridge the gap and make it easier, instead of basically removing the mechanic entirely. Not to mention that it also heavily detracts from colossal and great weapons. Before this update, they were the only ones with any hyper armor. Now, the uniqueness and selectiveness of that quality to them is lost. I quit DS3 because of the hyper armor mechanic and depreciated armor functionality. I didn't like the idea of armor being worth less than rubbish (the sole exception being the existence of a defence and absorption armor system - it's a good idea, but rough around the edges in DS3; I kinda wish it reappeared in Elden Ring), and of straight swords, axes, and clubs outdamaging their larger counterparts to obscene degrees in all categories. That last part hasn't happened yet, but I'm still afraid of the possibility - 'cause if you didn't notice in DS3, the Mace and Lothric Straight Sword would consistently outdamage every other weapon of every category (not to mention outdamaging every spell by principle), both in single attacks and DPS. The idea of that possibly happening in Elden Ring's later updates... leaves a cold sweat. The way you explained it makes me somewhat terrified - and I put emphasis on that phrase because I'm still sorta in denial about that; I'm almost hoping it was some sort of exaggeration or miscommunication. I know many people are rejoicing and quite happy with the changes to a more hyper armor based system, but personally... at least from how it sounds, I am very much not. From what I understand, this is the kind of direction in an update that I feared most. If armor at least significantly impacted defenses and could poise through lighter weapons and attacks, I wouldn't have any issue with a hyper armor system. But the absence of passive poise entirely is outright horrifying to me. Just... venting my thoughts out there. I'm abstractly terrified that I may feel compelled to quit Elden Ring. I accept that this is... unfortunately... just the direction that the game seems to be taking, since it appears to be what the majority of people want. Nonetheless, I voice my thoughts to the contrary. Hot take: if removing passive poise is the direction they're going in, they might as well remove armor in its entirety while they're at it - just make it all collectable cosmetics instead. Armor is already damn near useless as is, excluding poise applications. Now, without poise, what's even the point? Why bother with having armor exist if it barely does anything and gets outperformed by spells and talismans? If nothing else, I and other like-minded individuals probably wouldn't have an issue anymore beyond being salty at the development direction, 'cause I'm more peeved that armor exists as something basically useless. It had nothing really going for it before 1.10, and now it has even less going for it. I'm annoyed by the lack of function, but if armor didn't exist, then at least there wouldn't be the lack of function either.

[@dangox3370]

Nothing changed for me. I'm not a tryhard and since fashion takes priority, so I got used to running around with super low poise a long time ago. Plus my preferred weapon is one of the few that didn't get a poise buff... and I hope they leave it the way it is. But at least maybe I wont have to look at so many ugly bullgoats.

[@S_Scaling]

I’m level 713 but never fought someone in pvp what should I do. Oh and dark souls three is connected to Elden ring I didn’t wanna do pvp bc ppl are trackstars but will fight u with a team mate like😂 like dude I’m 11:30 ran behind his mage friend😂😂😂😂😂

[@vista777]

I tried adding reduvia to the offhand to catch people using boluses and it was a pretty fun addition! can anyone suggest other weapon combos to use with this build to have options to switch to? Also what would be the best ranged option to add to this?

[@Raptchur]

anytime i ever did pvp is was duels and i ran straight sword with war cry. which destroyed people. so now that would be even better? i believe i had 51 poise on that build

[@Rilai410]

i dont know why people like this patch so much, it just kills trade mechanic.

[@JohnShire387]

They wanted to play dark souls 3 again and have everything be passive again.

[@Rilai410]

@@JohnShire387 yep so sad

[@danielsevere5076]

What physic made him invincible?

[@WelcomeBub]

rip the patch only moved the poise problem to skills and ashes, trading with normal attacks are impossible

[@ЕгорДавыдов-ж3й]

Was that 7:37 a evangelist reference?

[@lustykong7591]

i shudder to think if follower saber is back

[@FroZo__]

Can someone tell me the armor pieces?

[@RendezvousWithRama]

I take it Storm Stomp is now universally useful against Quickspam?

[@common_undead]

Yes

[@MeAmSmart]

you should get 45 arcane for max bleed

[@pitshoster401]

Does that R2 only get hyper armor if you charge it?

[@criminal_6877]

Are powerstanced axes any good now?

[@Gnome-kc7pr]

Stormhawk axe is great for powerstancing

[@wavierdig]

Omg does that mean storm assault has returned After they buffed poise it made it basically impossible to combo the final hit unless they wore nothing But now? And if ppl start hyper armor trading more it could even counter reliably Dude im actually kinda hyped up I gotta see dis stuff

[@SirGrimLockSmithVIII]

Aw man I miss passive poise :(

[@ForestX77]

So we are back to DS3’s R1 spam carnival. Well at least DS2 still has a active pvp community.

[@Erdbeer_Klumpen]

Hey Lost, nice vid. The blue at Mountaintops who attacked the host, was an Invader supporter, he just communicated it very badly. Some Blue’s act as supporting for invaders. I for example do the same. Because someone who activates blue help is not worth it and must be punished for beeing such an videogame failure. 😂

[@demarko500]

Can someone help me understand how the level of the character is 138, but when I add up all of his attributes,I.e. vigor, dex, etc, the total is 217? I’m pretty new playing this game and struggling with this.

[@RebisOfTheseus]

Levels don't translate exactly 1 for 1. If you start a new character, it will have a greater number of stats than its starting level. That may be the discrepancy you're seeing.

[@demarko500]

Thanks for taking a moment to answer my question. Greatly appreciated,

[@RebisOfTheseus]

@@demarko500 of course! I hope it helped and I hope you're enjoying the games!

[@Captain_Sanders]

At least my archer build might have a chance

[@destroyer-yf3lb]

obligatory gabri shout out

[@Kage0No0Tenshi]

Elden ring needs fsr2.1, I have rtx 3070 and GPU usage 50% with ray tracing off and everything maxed at 1440p, when I turn on ray tracing to max and my fps can drop to 30 from 60fps is so laggy, they add ray tracing but not upscale technology sadly.

[@FluffyFailure0]

If this update just effectively removed Poise, this is by far the worst update in the history of Elden Ring. This isn't Bloodborne and this isn't the wannabe Dark Souls game. Poise shouldn't be a joke. I would like to say get your not Poise system out of Elden Ring but that's up to the developers. You can probably tell that I'm not pleased in the slightest at the time of writing, but at least this doesn't affect PvE.

[@patchwork536]

F*ck, DS3 pvp is the worst for me. It's a shame for me that ER try to copy its pvp mechanics.

[@aaronslack7292]

So is the bullgoat talisman worthless now?

[@KingDerek58]

Yes