Perinheri: Why Is It Important? (Genshin Impact 4.5)

[@ShadowXImpact]

Did you see it? (I wonder how many of you know what actually I mean XD)

[@Kynokefalos]

Well, in your past video you put Menogias name for a frame of time in Capitano's name :P

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@Kynokefalos nope, it's not that! XD There's something in this video, something.... Creepy... It creeped me out when I re-watch the video, and I'm the one who did it XD

[@isaiahhaley4816]

I heard a theory somewhere where someone theorize that perinhari might be the abyss sibling since in Chinese perinheri is referred to either a male or female depending on which travel you chose so it could be the abyss sibling since the twin we chose didn’t wake up until during the cataclysm when they were forced awake by their other siblings, plus the archon war was a event that lasted hundreds or thousands of years which means the twins would have landed here somewhere between the archon war and the catechism with the third descender likely already been dead when the archon war first came into place but it is interesting if the third could be perinheri but another theorist talked abt how perinheri doesn’t have much relevance to the story but I’m not sure I also believe the house of the hearth was created by pierro as the khaenriah orphanage equivalent to it especially since arlecchino has connections to a crimson moon and balemoon

[@ShadowXImpact]

If Perinheri was supposed to be either male or female in Chinese based on the traveler we picked, I think that would have been translated in English as well, since (as far as I know) it's easier to highlight someone's gender in English rather than Chinese. It would be very weird if the translators skipped something this big. So, I don't really think Perinheri could be the abyss sibling, really. I'm of the opinion that the traveler's arrived something like a few years, maybe 10, before the cataclysm, rather than thousands of years before. I know that they're long lived, but something about that feels wrong. So when they arrived, the third descender would have definitely be dead. I still don't think the Fatui or Pierro on his own would have built a Khaenri'ahn orphanage, not in Fontaine at least. I mean, he's staying in Snezhnaya, why do it in Fontaine? I could have, remotely, understood if it was in Sumeru, since Khaenri'ah is right beneath it... I guess we will just have to wait and find out!

[@isaiahhaley4816]

@@ShadowXImpact well the Chinese version is usually the things that end up being the most cannon since Genshin is a Chinese game

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@isaiahhaley4816 but it would be very weird if they didn't translate the one thing that would actually make a difference... Though, I just checked the Genshin Database and there is just one Chinese version of the book, in which Perinheri is male... If you find that video again, can you tell me the name? I'll have to watch it tomorrow though, it's almost 4am.....

[@isaiahhaley4816]

@@ShadowXImpact ok but I can’t make any promises. I don’t even remember the creator who made the video

[@captaindanger13]

@@isaiahhaley4816 yes but I heard it they only did the different pronoun thing in traditional chinese. not even simplified chinese, so i doubt it was on purpose.

[@TheJH1015]

I think that Perinheri can *only* be the Third Descender's companion if the events took place at the very start of the Archon War. Remember that King Deshret was offered a Gnosis *at the beginning* of the Archon War, which he refused. The Third Descender should have been gone by then already. But it's definitely not *impossible*

[@ShadowXImpact]

Well, Perinheri arrived to Khaenri'ah that he was a child, he grew up and became a prominent soldier of the nation and then Angelica came, so the timing could be right. Maybe, differently from Aether and Lumine, the third descender and the companion were both awake at the same time, so one ended up in Khaenri'ah and the other was wandering around in Teyvat

[@Necrochaosium]

the Perinheri book IS really important though as you say the parts that a fictional are hard to separate from the 'resource" material the book was based on. We know that part about the 4 champions of khaenriah was likely correct as ONE definitely is, alberich. Though the name "perinheri" might be fictional the character may still have existed. Given that the hearth likely existed in khaenriah, it's very probable that the jester still believed that the finding of the "child descender" was still the true mission. Since we know the jester DIDNT agree with whatever action khaenriah took that likely CAUSED the cataclysm, this could have been the summoning of the "twins". Now, given that the orphanage of khaenriah housed extraplanar children, the REAL question now is, who of the characters that we know are these children (or descended from these children). It's possible arlechinno is, or maybe columbia? too many unknowns. My hot take is I think capitano IS captain perinheri, given his near indefeatble status even amoung the fatui.

[@ShadowXImpact]

I think that Arlecchino being a descendant of Perinheri, although it could make sense, may be too "obvious" and I'm always very careful not to be jebaited by the writers. I honestly don't know about Colombina, to be honest. We know so little of her, she might be everything at this point. When it comes to Capitano, I'm still holding on the hope that he's Menogias... The problem is, though, that we don't know if there are descendants of Perinheri in the first place. The ending of the story is definitely fictional, so he may not have left Khaenri'ah at all for all we know. I hope 4.6 will give us some answers about it, also hoping that the "hearth" from the story wasn't a jebait for the House of the Hearth....

[@Zero_Li24]

Fun fact: In the chinese(original) version of the book, you will find that Perinheri is described in either male/female pronouns. If you've chosen the male traveller as your main character, Perinheri's pronouns translates to something like "he", and then "she" if otherwise. Yes, you guessed it, Perinheri is not the abyss twin, but the traveller. This could explain how they gained their descender powers, they came from the dark sea(sea of stars, aka space) and was subjected to training with other outlanders, but only our traveller became a descender through rebirth(that burning thing). Maybe it would be connected to the pyro nations plot("ode to ressurection", where one gains power from rebirth, but loses memory, similar to a phoenix but becoming stronger). That's why only our twin remembers everything and not us, and wishes to leave the planet with us, but we were intercepted by the sustainer of heavenly principles. Though the heavenly principles absorbed our power, we will get them back, for we are the 4th descender that ever came to be in this world (probably through khaenriah's use of forbidden knowledge, which might've corrupted the heavenly principles, that's why she's been absent for so long since the main story). Did I cook?

[@ShadowXImpact]

I was told about this, that a content creator talked about Perinheri being either male or female based on the traveler, but when I checked the Genshin Database, where you can find everything in the game in every language, there's only one version of the book and Perinheri is male... I wanted to watch that video to understand this, but I don't know who made it

[@gyannunez]

I’ve been reading the name “Perinheri” as if it was in Portuguese because of the “nh~” combination. In Portuguese “nh~” makes the sound that the letter “ñ” does in Spanish and the letter combination “gn~” does in Italian. Example: Bagno/Baño/Banho.

[@ShadowXImpact]

I thought about it, but I didn't want to try too hard with the name this time. It could have been an Indian name as well, so I went with a simple pronunciation. I mean, I have been critizised before, because I always try to use the right pronunciation...

[@Kynokefalos]

I was wondering in the pronunciation. It is like Periñeri?

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@Kynokefalos I wouldn't exclude the possibility, to be honest

[@gyannunez]

@@ShadowXImpact Yeah understand. I have no idea if this is right, I’m just inclined to read it like that because of Portuguese spelling conventions. It’s not totally outside the realm of possibility, but it would be somewhat strange to have a Portuguese pronunciation just show up now for a Khaenri’ah-affiliated character (even though he’s not from there so he’s not bound to the Germanic inspiration solely).

[@gyannunez]

@@Kynokefalos Yeah that’s what I was getting at. In Portuguese they use nh for the same sound that ñ makes in Spanish. I have no idea if that’s intended or not and it could be of a different origin altogether.

[@lexical450]

I do think that Perinheri alludes to Arlecchino's story/tale to a degree, the characters aren't the same but the allegory seems plausible. With it's theme of rebirth through fire, the orphanage having being a thing since the nation's inception, and Cappuccino possibly being one of those kids that came from the beyond. This also ties in with what i wrote in the last video, about thinking that she might not be fully "alive", due to that ordeal of going through the chimney and seeing "it" (the red/balemoon). Which would make the individual go through a cursed rebirth of sorts, or something like that, since the sages were trying to create/produce a descender and that might've been the failed prospects. Anyhow, can't wait for 4.6 since i'm pretty tired of logging in to just do commissions and leave. I assume that the Archon quests are gonna be all about The Knave and/or Remuria from now on, since Focalors is out of the picture, cheers and have a good one.

[@ShadowXImpact]

Cappuccino??? Anyway, I kinda don't see how Khaenri'ah having an orphanage would be too much of a deal, since the Narzissenkreuz Institute was an orphanage as well. I mean, it's not something extraordinary or unique.... I do think Arlecchino will be kinda related to the story in Perinheri, but not directly. I doubt she'll be someone who came from beyond, that would be a huge problem in the story. I'm still leaning toward experimentation on her to turn her into anartificial descender, it would actually be sick, in my opinion. But yeah, I also can't wait for 4.6! I'm logging in like once or twice a week to do the weekly rather than the dailies, and the events (I just noticed the cat thing today). These last two updates were kinda.... Invisible....

[@ShadowXImpact]

Thinking about it, it should be pretty easy to figure out if she came from beyond actually. If during the livestream she doesn't cause any Pneuma or Ousia reaction, then she's not really from Fontaine. Everyone who was born in Fontaine has either a Pneuma or Ousia inherit Arkhe, so that should work for her as well, even if her vision if Snezhnayan

[@lexical450]

@@ShadowXImpact I call Arlecchino that some times, sorry for the confusion lol

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@lexical450 ahahahhaha it's all good! XD

[@BlueDaisy33]

I just can’t wait for 4.6 to hopefully fill up the gaps in Perniheri lore we have rn. Like this book told us so much yet not enough and created new questions

[@ShadowXImpact]

Exactly, we wnddd up with way more questions than before!!! But luckily, 4.6 is so close, that it if it'll give us some answers...

[@vitozd2001]

Capitano

[@TheBilayer]

I don't know why it give my gladiator set vibe.

[@ShadowXImpact]

The problem is that the gladiator was a slave and the woman he was in love with, seems to reciprocate

[@davidjohnson8273]

I've previously hypothesized that Rjinedottir (and the rest of the Surtalogi group) are essentially the 2nd throne, or that they arrived with the 2nd throne, based on the fact that they appear to be happily living in the Abyss. As such it would be something like 8000 years since they came to Teyvat. My guess is Perinheri is just a fictional character although it seems at least one of the background characters was based on a real family name that might have been discovered by Fontainian archeologists. There's not enough information for more than a guess. But I think we have enough characters introduced from that area (Abyss) and that time (4-5000 years ago).

[@ShadowXImpact]

Care to explain where it was said that Rhinedottir was happily living in the abyss? And also these 8000 years? I can understand Surtalogi, since he has been training Skirk in the abyss where Childe found her but, as far as we know, Rhinedottir's last appearance was when she abandoned Albedo and not even he knows where she went... Yes, Perinheri could be a fictional character based on a real family name, but then again, but I don't think the writers would have wasted so much time to write two entire books about someone who never existed at all (although I know that's what you actually think).

[@ShadowXImpact]

Oh also, just in case, I didn't name Surtalogi to say that he was Perinheri. I meant it as a comparison with someone extraordinary. Of course, if he ends up, for some reason, being Perinheri, then I will have named the right person as a comparison by chance

[@davidjohnson8273]

@@ShadowXImpact Aren't the great majority of fictional works in the game pretty much unhelpful for lore purposes? I'd say if Perinheri is a "nothing" then there's plenty of precedent. Skirk plainly links the other two people together with Surtalogi. It doesn't feel like she gets out much. So there's a good chance the other two spent a lot of time in the Abyss and have a similar history to Surtalogi. The three appear to be associates.

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@davidjohnson8273 well, of course you think the majority of the books in the game are useless, why did I even bring that up? Still, yeah, Surtalogi, Rhinedottir and Vedrfolnir are linked or at the very least know each other. I mean, I do think that Vedrfolnir is Nicole, so that would make sense. But still, I don't think they spent time together in the abyss, I feel like they knew each other from before and then they split. Of course, it's a gut feeling, there's nothing I can quote to prove it, but there's also nothing that disproves it 100%, so....

[@captaindanger13]

@@davidjohnson8273 ain't no way this guy just said the fictional books in this game are unhelpful for lore...

[@Kynokefalos]

Another funny thing about the spanish version. The House of the Hearth in spanish is called The House of the Fireplace or Bonfire, and is poetic because the reminiscence of imagining the sweet heat of a fireplace inside of a cozy house protected of the blizzard of outside, (LEAK) . . . . . . and also the constellation of Arlecchino.

[@ShadowXImpact]

I didn't read the leak, so I can't reply about that, but in Italian is basically the same, house of the firepit, but that's because "hearth" actually means firepit. I've never heard the word "hearth" before, I learned it with the game XD

[@Kynokefalos]

@@ShadowXImpact Oh yes, you're right, hearth is like a poetic name for the warmth of home. World of Warcraft uses a lot this word, Hearthstone, it is a magic runic stone that can teleport you back home. And well now i think of it, in the harbingers symbols, there is one with a candle ignited, and a hand that looks like a heart, its curious, if you plus candle with heart, you have Hearth (?)

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@Kynokefalos yeah, I'm 99% sure that the hand clutching a fire is her constellation. I have a Fatui Harbingers video coming up in which I'll also talk about the constellations, but with the livestream and the actual 4.6 quest, it'll have to be delayed...

[@daikinfinity6965]

Il Capitano?

[@davidjohnson8273]

6:46 It seems to me that the sovereign (king) is a normal human king of Khaenriah and not a god. Calling a king "almighty" is an exaggeration but then it would also be an exaggeration to call the Primordial One "almighty" since they were damaged by the war with the 2nd throne. While there is a distinction made by eg Enjou between "demon gods" (including Archons) and the divine beings of Celestia, I don't get the impression that Dainsleif is leaving open the possibility of Khaenri'ah worshipping the Primordial One when he denies Khaenri'ah ever had a god.

[@ShadowXImpact]

At the same time, if you think that the Primordial One is incapacitated, then you could also say that Khaenri'ah never had a God as well. If he's never been there, they would have never had one. You know, that fine line of interpretation that can be used to trick people without really lying. There's also the possibility that the Primordial One may not actually be called a "god" and this term is only left for the gods who came after the Heavenly Principles. In that case, again, Khaenri'ah would have never had a god. Let's remember that Khaenri'ah did send their people to Enkanomiya specifically to steal the one book that called about the Primordial One, and they knew about it before having even seen it before, so they already knew what it was about, meaning that Khaenri'ah probably had something similar of their own. Still, I do think it's too much of an exaggeration to call a kind "almighty sovereign", it's a little bit too much and too godly a title...

[@davidjohnson8273]

@@ShadowXImpact Well that's a good point about them not "having" a god in the sense of physically on site. And I do think that Khaenri'ah are likely the closest thing to an Ancient Civilization successor state.... and certainty would know about the Primordial One and the envoys... but for that reason I don't think they would expect the Primordial One to be physically present. Though the people of Enkanomiya have that line where they seem to complain that "only" one Shade came to see them which seems like a perfectly decent number of Shades to me. Does the Primordial One visit humans from time to time? It feels like what is the point of envoys if the Primordial One shows up personally? Perhaps Enkanomiyans just meant that they had no word from the Primordial One through the envoys (or through any other method) and they didn't actually expect a Shade to show up personally. Come to think of it it's odd that the worship of Istaroth was opposed by the nobles of Enkanomiya even if they were afraid of losing their status. But in the text from the name card thing it feels like someone is directly addressing a request by the "almighty sovereign" so to me that feels very human and not at all like a god nobody has seen in thousands of years. Why would there be any sense of back and forth with such a being and why would they think they needed to keep an "almighty sovereign" informed? Wouldn't they already know all about it?

[@davidjohnson8273]

@@ShadowXImpact That whole speech by Enjou about the "gods" coming from elsewhere and how this is somehow a bad thing, has never made any sense.

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@davidjohnson8273 ignoring what you think about what Enjou said, since I don't understand how it wouldn't make sense to you, I don't think that an Envoy loses its purpose if the main god also appears. But even then, we know from Before Sun and Moon that the Primordial One basically gave the people of the unified nation everything they needed, so even if he never physically showed up, they still knew that he cared for them. When it comes to Istaroth, it makes sense that they would "complain" (even though it doesn't sound like a complain to me, really) that only one shade hadn't forsaken them. I mean, the Primordial One and the four shades tended to them and granted everything they wanted, then, when their nation fell down there and they had to fight for survival against the Vishaps, no one came to their aid. Of course they would be happy that at least Istaroth went there to help them, but they were also sad or disappointed that only one shade actually kept caring about them, while the other 3 didn't. Also, I don't understand which noble opposed the worship of Istaroth, unless you're talking about those who took over the Dainichi Mikoshi, but in that case, it's pretty easy to understand, since it's just human thirst for power. If people kept following Istaroth, then they wouldn't have been able to rule over everybody for their own interest...

[@mabilleaudrey2154]

Primordial one is Phanes and he’s the one who created celestia and build the Seven divine throne with the power of the dragons sovereigns If Kaenri’ah must workship a deity it would be the dragons sovereigns because they were here before Teyvat creation and Phanes arrival

[@ariannaandiris7141]

😮 I know who perinheri is (Capitano)

[@Benlego2017]

how did you come to the conclusion that the two heirs from the battle pass aren't both a descender?

[@ShadowXImpact]

Because one forgot who she was and she now believes to be the queen of the kingdom of darkness, while the second one was sent to pick up where she left, so he's a symbol of hope. Of course, nothing really gives us 100% certainty that she is not a descender, but if she were, the world would have probably been completely destroyed by now. I mean, an evil descender is the worst that could happen

[@Benlego2017]

@@ShadowXImpact isn't the primordial one or the second who came an evil descender? depends on the perspective which one, but one of them is

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@Benlego2017 the story so far, makes us believe that the second who came is evil, yes, and as we all know, the whole world was literally destroyed, many people were wiped out, others were trapped for ages underground. It's not like something good came from it

[@Benlego2017]

@@ShadowXImpact so what stops the princess from the gnostic chorus being the second who came😅 Sorry if I'm being annoying, of course everything we have is speculation, but I think it's definitely possible

[@ShadowXImpact]

@@Benlego2017 because both princes came when Sal Vindagnyr (the mountain in the background) was verdant, so the age that I usually call the Envoy Age, when Sal Vindagnyr was built in the first place (and ended when the nails came down, marking the beginning of the age of the gods of old). As a consequence, it can't be the second who came, because they arrived almost at the beginning of Teyvat, when the civilization of the unified nation inhabited Teyvat.