" AIRLINE PEOPLE " 1970s CAREERS IN AVIATION INDUSTRY FILM PILOTS STEWARDESSES TICKET AGENTS 92814

[@byromania]

I miss this period in the airline industry more than I can adequately express in words. In 1977, my mom worked for Delta Airlines in their Detroit reservations office. My family was originally from LA, so we would visit Southern California quite often in the 70s, using my mom's flight benefits. Delta's onboard service was incredible, and the flight experience, even in Coach, was miles away from what airlines offer today. Watching this video of LAX in 1977 brings back so many amazing memories!! If I only had a time machine. Thank you for posting this!

[@mitchg7809]

That female captain was Valerie Walker the daughter of movie star Clint Walker. She retired from Delta sometime in the early 2000’s.

[@paulazemeckis7835]

One of the dragon slayers in commercial piloting. Kudos and many thanks to her! I started out in the early 80's after I graduated college. Had to face chauvinists too. Your mother was AMAZING!

[@karenblaine7266]

She wasn’t captain in this video, she was a Second Officer.

[@bentleybrabec]

0:12 United airlines Boeing 747 looks great

[@packingten]

I worked @ Dobbs house around 1970/71, I drove a truck and carried food to planes.Sort of fun wow I was about 20.

[@pcressma]

“The White Zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only”…..”Don’t start with your red zone bullshit again, Betty” (Airplane Movie Reference)

[@juliamenz6137]

I LOVE that movie!

[@marks6663]

this was in 1977. The golden age of aviation. Or at least the end of it. Just before deregulation brought in all the low fare carriers that would ultimately end up putting most of the legacy carriers out of business and then leading to what we have today, three big carriers and a slew of low budget operations all racing to the bottom. Back then most transcontinental flights were widebodies. 747s were everywhere. Spotting was so much fun. You got a hot meal on every flight. Roomy seats. Classy flight attendants. Free baggage. The reason being that fares were regulated so the airlines got what they needed to get paid in order to offer a full service operation. Flying was not for everyone. It was a treat. You saved up. It was not a city bus ride.

[@trplpwr1038]

You couldn't have said it any better.

[@jagboy69]

Now you get some gay guy in drag on southwest wearing shorts with one ball hanging out and doing some we love you shit dance at 6am. I kid you not! Orlando 2009, last time I rode SW. I was headed to the majors and bailed out. Corporate flying is the way to go. When we fly someplace nice, we get to stay until the pax are ready to come home. Tough work at places like the Caymans or Turks & Caicos. :-P

[@juliocaesardarsonevi6928]

Is it true that the deregulation happen because of increasinh air travel?

[@gaguy1967]

The departure screen said June 11, 1976

[@zekeonstormpeak4186]

And jet fuel was 30 cents a gallon!

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

Remember "Laker Airways", those were the heady seventies and so much happened back then. I am lost for words, just don't know what to say.

[@michaelbooher339]

Been an A&P mechanic since 1987.

[@GA-1st]

The female pilot at 12:33 is Valerie Walker Cottle, daughter of the late actor Clint Walker.

[@PorkChopJones]

Ohh nice to know that information... wow.

[@ScreaminEmu]

Fun fact: that jumpseat at 12:46 is exactly the same jumpseat as the brand new 737 Max has! Awesome work, Boeing!

[@suriyanarayananjanakiraman1127]

You Won by pointing out what I thought

[@zms8092]

Lol, I instantly noticed the bracket on the wall and was blown seats That jumpseat isn’t the only thing that’s exactly the same from the original 737s.

[@2sk21]

Note that this film was made before the industry was deregulated in 1978

[@ScottRothsroth0616]

Rangachari Anand Thank you.

[@oceanhome2023]

Wow back when flying was fun instead of a sardine packed he’ll ride

[@hertzair1186]

Ron Lawson ...LOL they aren’t packed now...my Southwest flight last week was only me, 4 lady’s and 3 German Shepherd dogs...

[@ScottRothsroth0616]

(I am being sarcastic) Thanks COVID-19.

[@donnabaardsen5372]

Exactly. Flying today cannot come even close to flying then. Now it's equal to riding a Greyhound bus. Pilot's and FA's are fine, but passengers have become sloppy and rude.

[@seeburg220]

@@donnabaardsen5372 It's the Walmart Effect. People dress-down to fly, just like they do going to walmart. It's like riding a city bus, an Airbus lol...

[@PorkChopJones]

I agree 1000 percent! They pack us in don't they? lol

[@cameraman655]

Getting a job with an airline back then, was like winning the lottery, very difficult without the “right” connections and even then, there were no guarantees. Case in point, my Grandfather was a longtime Braniff employee (radio communications at DFW) and as hard as he tried, he could not help in securing a job at BN (MSP), I finally landed a ramp position at Northwest Orient (1976) during my first year at College. One winter on the ramp at MSP, taught me that this was not for me. That said, I had a great deal of respect for those who labored under those brutal conditions during those frigid Minnesota winters. A very different business today, I fly a lot, and unlike then where these jobs were coveted, you see the difference in the attitudes of the airline’s staff, it’s just another job mindset. In many cases, many airline employees today are not even employed by a given carrier,often a contractor, especially at ‘out stations’, slave wages, poor working conditions, few if any perks. Definitely not coveted jobs they once were.

[@FitzGerald9876]

Same with auto industry back in the day. Almost impossible to land a job without connections.

[@paulazemeckis7835]

Not just the airline industry. The changes you listed were across the board and affected most of corporate America.

[@rapman5363]

Its amazing how many middle men (or women) you went through to book a seat on an airplane. With the advent of sites like Travelocity etc.....you can book your own flight and pick your own seat. All those jobs lost due to the advancing technology. Not a criticism just an observation

[@Keithbarber]

Its illustrative of advances in technology In the 1970s, computers were much more labour intensive, and the memory banks would have taken up several rooms, but today, it's down to the size of a briefcase, or less

[@seeburg220]

De-Regulation helped with losing a lot of jobs, pensions and careers. Some Reservations facilities are located overseas, where the workers are paid much less. We successfully dumbed-down aviation, to that of a bus route.

[@brunodavidferreira5781]

GREAT TIMES....

[@Hopeless_and_Forlorn]

I started my airline career as a mechanic, avionics tech, and finally instructor, in 1965 and retired in 2009. Is this video truly reflective of how it was? Hell, yes, but it was even better, despite the long hours and erratic schedules. Of course, a lot of it was because almost everybody in the business was young and healthy and more or less attractive, and doing what they loved. As someone has noted in the comments below, this story was told before airline deregulation upset the apple cart. Then there were fuel crises, 9-11, bankruptcies and mergers and vultures carrying brief cases and stealing pensions as they sold off the capital equipment an airline needs to operate. In the 11 years that I have been retired, I have not even considered using my pass privileges. I would rather paddle a rowboat to Hawaii than go back into the hell the airlines became. So they are all grounded now? Good riddance.

[@egalf]

Yes, and most of them are bankrupt and will go bust now any minute.

[@roachtoasties]

When I was younger, I applied for a few airlines (United, American, etc.). They wouldn't even give me the time of day. No responses to anything. That's OK. I eventually made it into I.T., and have had a good career just staying on the ground. The airlines' loss.

[@jumpinjack1]

The end of the vid shows the Continental DC 10 and Hughes Airwest has special meaning as my Bro and I got to take a trip with my dad to Kansas in these planes to pick up a "brand new" Cessna that needed delivered ( supposed to be a 210 that ended up being switched to a 172 :/ That was a special time and we were very fortunate.

[@torgeirbrandsnes1916]

Wow! A 2nd officer on the deck of a 737! I know UAL stopped that in 1973! So WAL had that in 1978. Oh well. Lol!

[@avoidingtrees560]

Torgeir Brandsnes Got so surprised too.......amazing times. Cheers from France brother

[@ScreaminEmu]

I didn’t even know they had 3 on a 737. Imagine riding that awful jumpseat for a job!

[@jimandmandy]

Yellow Hughes Air West DC-9 takeoff in closing credits. "Top Banana in the West."

[@skinnerhound2660]

Western Airlines, "The ONLY way to fly" Pan AM 747SP, Western Airlines DC-10, PSA 727, wow so much eye candy. Just before the industry went to hell and dereg came. Sadly we are in for another huge decline. So sad for the many dedicated that work in the industry including my son. Thanks for sharing.

[@avoidingtrees560]

Skinner Hound I know what you’re talking about. Cheers from France and good luck to your son

[@skinnerhound2660]

@@avoidingtrees560 Thank you for your kind words. My son, like so many that work in the industry, studied hard, worked for peanuts for a small seaplane company and got his A&P license. He was hired by a major five years ago works hard and loves his job. History has taught us that the aviation industry is extremely cyclical. My Grandfather was hired as an A/P in 1928 for United Air Lines and quickly became a pilot, my have times changed.

[@avoidingtrees560]

Skinner Hound hi skinner Went thru hell to land a job at Houston hobby airport , with a cie called fletcher aviation.10 years later I was flying a 747-400 for atlas air based in England London Stansted airport .i am a Frenchman who spent so much energy and money to fly that you would not believe.....probably like your son. Tell your boy not to give up.especialy if he goes to the cargo industry which I loved very much. Cheers from France smart America.

[@davidcarroll8735]

Agree on that sweet 747SP! The Western DC-10 also pretty novel, although I was lucky enough to fly on one back in the day.

[@paulazemeckis7835]

L1011's over DC-10's anyday.

[@badcompany-w6s]

When flying was fun and wasn't a hassle. And did anybody notice that guy that look like major Healey?

[@gazelle3635]

Bygone days.

[@kenmore01]

2, non-smoking please. :-D

[@markreeter6227]

The airline industry once offered D.B. Cooper a job but he bailed on them.

[@roachtoasties]

True. I think that's why no commercial airplane now has rear steps, so people can't bail out. D.B. Cooper probably died from the jump, or shortly afterward, from the elements or being stuck in a tree.

[@scottl.1568]

sweet!

[@pip12111]

A 737 with a second officer? Wow!

[@airlineshow]

Wait. Ppl in those days went to the airport without having bought a ticket?🤔

[@1469ML]

A few years earlier, you could walk to the gate without a ticket. Before IIRC 1972 no x-ray or magnetometer, either.

[@321463]

So that ONE WAY economy fare from Denver to Los Angelos was $76 in 1977. That equates to $371 in 2022 dollars. No wonder airlines were able to provide free baggage, meals and extra leg room. You get what you pay for....even to this day.

[@basketballspinner]

some 32 years after this video was made, i was hired by Delta Air Lines

[@anjoleahdupree1963]

MAY 25,1979 Flight 191 (273 Lives Lost) Due To A Maintenance Error.

[@Evil1P]

Valerie Cottle is piloting a Boeing 737 in this movie, NOT DC-9

[@MichiganPeatMoss]

No gloves for food prep. Welp, that era is over forever.

[@packingten]

Glad you like a nourishing meal of peanuts.

[@PorkChopJones]

Back in the 70's they didn't have any germs....lol! Just kidding...

[@rapman5791]

That’s funny. People wear gloves constantly during food prep nowadays but food borne illness has increased exponentially since this film was made. 🤷‍♂️. If you think gloves are actually making you safer then give me your number, I have a condo with a great ocean view in Albuquerque to sell you real cheap. 😂😂😂

[@eirikrdberg1161]

13:50 the plane that crashed in san diego in 1978. One year after this was filmed.

[@hljav787]

Oh dang, that’s not good

[@rapman5791]

No, that wasn’t the same plane.

[@PADADDIE]

OMG that opening sequence - Like every bad Porn 'Emanuel' movie from back in the late 60's early 70's LOL

[@avoidingtrees560]

Dave Sturniolo Dave.......I loooved bad porn Emanuel when I was a teen. Cheers from bankrupted France

[@fujifrontier]

The white zone is for immediate unloading and loading of passengers only..... No, the red zone is for loading.... Listen Betty, don't start up With your white zone shit again 💀💀💀💀 lmao did ya'll catch that voice from Airplane at 6:23 ahahahahaa

[@seeburg220]

Yes, immediately !

[@PorkChopJones]

Shirley, there is a telephone call in the blue zone, on the red phone. Pickup please!

[@suriyanarayananjanakiraman1127]

1977 is it correct

[@kevinwoodard6571]

I thought flying was okay, until mid 1996, when that photo ID requirement came along. Even nuttier was the random searches beginning after September 2001. Federal Aviation Administration is now F***AA. I stopped flying entirely after March 2008, and have not looked back at it much since.

[@PorkChopJones]

Back in those days economy seats had decent leg room. Today your knees are under your chin, then you play elbow tag with person sitting next to you for several hours! Buses used to have great leg room too. But one day everything changed! Passenger comfort took a back seat. Making sure there is a butt in every seat with a paid ticket was priority! If you one of the few that can afford 1st class seats! That's me in back eating 3 bags of planters peanuts! While your being served hot roast beef and mashed taters! I can smell it ok....Hello steward, give me 2 bags of nuts and them chocolate chip cookies. Um what's for dinner? Um sir, that's only for first class passengers! 45 years later I can still smell the roast beef! Damn!! More peanuts sir? , no thanks, 7 bags is my limit! I will take 4 bottles of water please!!!!

[@ffotograffyddgohebwyr8308]

Oh boy are things going to change.These were the good old (bad) days.We are now going to pay a very high price.It's about time the airlines started to pay the high tax that the rest of us have to pay on fuel.Their business model is very badly flawed.It cannot survive as it is.

[@metroplex3k]

no thanks - I gave at the office.

[@ferrarifquarante6965]

porn music or musak?

[@satanofficial3902]

Flying... a very chancy way of travel. Where you might encounter snakes on a plane, the living dead on a plane, David Suchet on a plane as a frothing-at-the mouth terrorist, etc, etc. Take the train instead! Not a single train has (so far) ever been hijacked to Cuba.

[@satanofficial3902]

Although, if you see Casey Ryback boarding the same train as you, you might consider taking another train as the presence of Casey may be an indicator that the train trip is about to become just a Little Too Exciting very, very soon.

[@corbinestep830]

How do you put your own logo on 16mm film?

[@Keithbarber]

It may have been added digitally on a computer, or you had to film cards with the information on

[@oddmanout4256]

Ah, back when the Greedy Airlines cared about maintaining their air fleet.

[@philmontejano5971]

Yes, and service mattered along with legroom