Perm-36 | The ONLY Russian Gulag Still Remaining Today

Did you know that you can still visit a Russian gulag today? 😁 Join me as I travel to Perm, in central Russia, to see the only Russian gulag still existing today.
Most Soviet gulags have been dismantled following the end of the Soviet labour camp program in the 1980s. However, a few miles north of Perm, one of the largest cities in central Russia, you can visit the site of a former gulag 🔦
In my quest to set foot in every single federal subject in Russia, the territory of Perm was number 30! Don't forget to follow me on Instagram for live updates @davelegenda 📷
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Here's where I stand as of now:
Moscow ✔️
Moscow Oblast' ✔️
Saint Petersburg ✔️
Leningradskaya Oblast' ✔️
Vladimirskaya Oblast' ✔️
Yaroslavskaya Oblast' ✔️
Ivanovskaya Oblast' ✔️
Krasnodarskij Kraj ✔️
Tulskaya Oblast' ✔️
Tatarstan Republic ✔️
Tverskaya Oblast' ✔️
Nizhegorodskaya Oblast' ✔️
Kaluzhskaya Oblast' ✔️
Murmanskaya Oblast' ✔️
Smolenskaya Oblast' ✔️
Ryazanskaya Oblast' ✔️
Astrakhanskaya Oblast' ✔️
Kalmykia Republic ✔️
Volgogradskaya Oblast' ✔️
Bryanskaya Oblast' ✔️
Udmurtia Rebublic ✔️
Yekaterinburgskaya Oblast' ✔️
Tyumenskaya Oblast' ✔️
Karelia Republic ✔️
North Ossetia-Alania Republic ✔️
Rostov Oblast' ✔️
Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug ✔️
Republic of Crimea ✔️
Sevastopol ✔️
Permskij Kraj ✔️
Which means I'm at 30/85. Still 55 to go! Hopefully a lifetime will be enough ⚠️
Next to a semi-abandoned village 100 miles north of Perm, is central Russia, are the remains of one of the most popular Soviet labour camps in history 📛
It is the ONLY site in the world where the main buildings and structures of the gulags are relatively well-kept and it’s possible for adventurers to roam around 🙅🏻
What an experience visiting Perm and the Perm gulag was. The official denomination of this gulag was Perm-36. It was built in 1946 and remained operation until 1988. Since 1995, visitors have the chance to go on guided tours as the site is open to the public as The Museum of the History of Political Repression Perm-36, while being known popularly as the Gulag Museum.
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Traveling to Perm was actually quite fun - I jumped on a Pobeda flight from Moscow, leaving the Russian capital at midnight while arriving in the Urals at 4 in the morning. The flight was however only two hours long - the magic of traveling across different timezones.
I KNEW I had to get into Perm quite early because the gulag site is a bit far from the city and it's also quite difficult to reach. What I had to do was get on a bus for two hours, get off at a random point in the middle of nowhere, call a number to ask if the people from the museum could come and get me, and they did...awesome adventures in the middle of Russia. All of this, to visit the only remaining Russian gulag in the world!
What was the purpose of the gulags? They were essentially the prison systems of the Soviet Union, but they then became known in the west for the particularly harsh conditions that prisoners and convicts were subjected to.
How many people died in the gulag? It is impossible to know the exact amount of people who have passed through a gulag throughout the entire existence of the Soviet labour camp program, from the 1920s all the way to the years immediately preceding the collapse of the Union. That is because although the residential barracks were designed to host 200-250 prisoners at most, overcrowding was a common issue. Also, western estimations differ very much from the ones provided by Russian authorities. It is commonly believed that 18 million people have been gulag prisoners in total, with up to 1 million having died while imprisoned.
The Perm-36 labour camp was built in 1946 and remained operation until 1988, right until the very end of the Soviet gulag program. In 1972, the camp became specifically designated to house some of the most dangerous criminals and political dissidents of the Soviet Union ⚒
Walking around the rotting wooden buildings of the gulag is highly upsetting, as you are able to realise the terrible living and working conditions of anyone who was unfortunate enough to spend some time in Perm-36. The entire camp is divided into three main areas: the working area, the residential area, and the maximum-security area for extremely dangerous criminals.

[@DaveLegenda]

Have you ever been to a gulag? Check out my Instagram at @davelegenda for extra pictures

[@blimolhm2790]

I am in a gulag. Australians can not leave their country for holidays. I live vicariously through your adventures.

[@bingzaniGercel]

@@blimolhm2790 yes and australia is a nanny police state. They fine you if you cycle barheaded and cigaret costs 40$

[@darthdarth4297]

Are you serious thousands of people died. this is how you’re acting

[@user-vi1by8lk1q]

Переведу что ты спросил. Вы когда-нибуть были в Главном Управлении? Ты был в исправительной колонии тех лет, а ГУЛаг сейчас называется ФСИН

[@susgaming.4540]

I'm so glad i've been to the Perm-36 Gulag museum, not the Perm-36 gulag 😳

[@EportChris]

It's like watching bald and bankrupt from a parallel universe. That's a good thing. Thanks for the content 👍🏻

[@user-oj8ks5sp3h]

Yes, this guy doesn't seem like a predator.

[@Ms_Ve]

@@user-oj8ks5sp3h what?

[@Ms_Ve]

Much as I love Bald & Bankrupt, Benjamin can take a few tips from the way you conduct your videos. No disrespect intended. Your uploads have much more quality and info.

[@user-oj8ks5sp3h]

@@Ms_Ve B&B is known to manipulate and use vulnerable women while abroad, and brag about it online. Have a search online, I cannot confirm it for sure.

[@worthaglimpse]

came here from your comment on bald's video you showed around the place pretty well, and your english and russian is great btw keep the good content coming, all the best

[@robburley4643]

I love your videos man. Many of us might not have the opportunity to visit places like this, but we are very interested in this type of history so thank you for including us in your journey. Safe travels!

[@MrFreon1990]

Perm is my native town, so pleased to see how you visited it

[@michaelrozenwasser7780]

The "Exercise Yard" in min 15:50 is has nothing to do with exercise. In max security prisons in Russia, until today by the way, this is how prisoners get their daily walks. This chamber with the barbed wire on the top is the place prisoners are allows to walk around for about an hour a day and this is about as much outdoors they get.

[@TomLafford]

This was really interesting. Thanks!

[@henkjanvanraikonnen5073]

I like Davide his videos. He is only 24 and travelling around Great Russia country. Davide his English and Russian is so Great. I respect this Italian braveheart🔥🔥💪💪👍

[@sav1t343]

Man, your content is damn good. Keep it up!

[@HistoryHustle]

Cool you went there. I visited the site in 2019. One little comment as a historian: for the tumnail you've used a photo of Auschwitz I (located in Poland).

[@ilokivi]

Grazzi e Спасибо. Used to write to a pen friend living in Perm, she got married in 1990 and the street names were changed to remove reference to Voroshilov. Surprised that this gulag was still working as late as 1988, understood that most had been closed shortly after the death of Stalin. Thank you for the time and effort made to visit this remote spot.

[@missustoad1]

I always wanted to see this gulag of Perm... thank you for a great tour!!

[@bryannelson6139]

Your videos are so cool and informative. You are upbeat and I love your humorous comments. You keep us educated on the out of the way places of the world.

[@YaelSharon3410]

This video came up in the suggestions and I'm glad it did. There's some amazing architecture in these towns along with the brutalist soviet era architecture. Great video, liked and subscribed

[@odysseusthesojourner4401]

Fascinating video! Well done bro!

[@beeboy2306]

This is the 3rd channel that I watch about Perm 36 gulag. Bald and Bankrupt, Eli from Russia and Dave Legenda.

[@JayStapley]

Thanks for this, very interesting.

[@user-ig2io3hc8g]

"That almost 3d class russian train"😂 Never knew a Gulag museum in Perm. Thank you!

[@yugandali]

I've read most of Solzhenitsyn's works, so l really appreciate your effort. Thanks. It must have been very quiet there, so far from everything. Didn't any of the staff show you around? Also: 11:20 I wonder how happy the families were to get letters with a Gulag return address. Solzhenitsyn said many families abandoned their zeks. thanks again.

[@DaveLegenda]

Yes there was some staff there but I thought roaming around by myself would be more fun.

[@hafkfrank3882]

Thanks for cheering! You great eye catchter such as those songs/lyriccs on the wall. Well produced ✌️

[@Andrey-Lyan]

This channel is better than bald and bankrupt, to be honest...

[@lauraa7042]

I agree. Dave is sincere. Bald cares more about joking than providing interesting details.

[@permska1526]

Случайно нашел ваш канал, интересно посмотреть на свой город.

[@CaseloadMoses]

I subscribed after the first video. This has to be the MOST interesting KZbin channel

[@sabflash]

Excellent vidéo very interesting topic I think I will follow you to the end of the world

[@tobgrep8179]

Good video like always

[@tasha3757]

Great video!

[@luminouspage4359]

VERY INFORMATIVE

[@broccoli9308]

Check the bunk beds, "it's almost like a third class Russian train" lol

[@danhotea6302]

this video give me a chill i myself was a political prisoner in Romania sighetul marmatiei in 1986 dear friends never ever allowed your government's to become a Tyran in your country's

[@ri-oj1ul]

oh man... i don't think I've ever seen someone so excited to go to the gulag! lol

[@yamasthecat708]

from Holland, thanks for this video,

[@TheoneandonlyJobis]

$3.60 for a 100 mile bus trip? I could live well off my $1250 compensation payments from the Army.

[@LEK-we2hh]

Ye you should try )))

[@Hunter-zn2hx]

There are still abandoned gulags in Siberia, that are in same condition as they were left. Team of czech historians did an expedition there few years back. But they are preserved due to their remoteness, so you need wilderness survival skills to get there and it takes multiple days of navigating on rivers.

[@henkjanvanraikonnen5073]

The mannequin in the Gulag bed scared the hell out of me😬😁🤭

[@jimmiejohnsson2272]

From what I've understood from reading Solzhentisyn "gulag archipelago", most gulags were not as fancy as this one. This really isn't representative of the living conditions of the people in the gulag. Lot of gulags had NO interior stuff (no bed, not even a chair to sit on) and the ground was just a dirt floor. And the cells were cram packed to the point were "prisoners" (most of them completely innocent people) had to turn in tandem when sleeping. And many of the gulags had NO heating inside the prison cells. As for sending correspondence via letters, this was often denied (there WERE no one to stop guards from prohibiting whatever they wanted to do). Reading books sounds unlikely, most camps keept prisoner in a chronic state of sleep deprivation to torture them. People in camps did not read books to enjoy themselves that is for sure. Stalins red terror is probably among the worst crime against humanity ever to take place in history, the horrors these people had to suffer was the worst I've ever heard of. And the scale on which it was done is also chocking. If your interested in really knowing about it I would recommend reading the gulag archipelago...

[@Querens]

and yet they try to revive marxism-leninism allover again in the West... Ignoring such historical monuments as my motherland and many other former and still active socialistic regimes. Those neomarxist-leninists keep saying that they will do the right version of socialism. So naive.

[@user-mt9hx2ti4p]

@@Querens сейчас бы по соЛЖЕницыну судить о социализме. Ты его хоть сам пробовал читать? Очень сомневаюсь. Там чуть ли не на каждой странице он сам себе противоречит и несёт такую шизофреническую чушь, что я даже не знаю кем надо быть чтобы в это поверить.

[@Querens]

@@user-mt9hx2ti4p У него много ошибокю А ты хотя бы знаешь почему? Догадываюсь, что про "сам-то читал" у меня спрашивает человек, который не читал ) Так вот знаешь почему у него так много неточностей? Потому что кровавые комуняки прятали все цифры, пряча свои преступления. Кстати, лапоть ты мой непуганный, комуняки во власти опять архивы все запрятали. Чтобы такие лапти как ты ходили в интренете и говорили, что "ВИ ВСЁ ВРЁТЕ ДАКАЗАТЕЛЬСТВ НЕТ МЫ НЕ КРОВАВЫЕ"

[@user-mt9hx2ti4p]

@@Querens Девушка посаженная на 5 лет за преждевременный уход с работы. Это тоже ошибка? А рассказы про 100% кислоту, которой пытали нквдшники, тоже ошибка или шизофрения? Там не ошибки, а просто ложь на каждой странице. Назови конкретные архивы, которые были уничтожены,а то у тебя, как и твоего кумира, никакой конкеритики. Только абстрактные злые комуняки, которые все уничтожали.

[@Querens]

​@@user-mt9hx2ti4p никакие они не абстрактные злые коммуняки, а самые настоящие реальные людоеды. То, что они в архивах далеко не всех записывали, кого убивали, показано неоднократно. Недавно историка из мемориала Дмитриева, кажется, посадили, он как раз нашёл такое массовое захоронение, нигде никогда не записывавшееся. А ещё, для тебя, наверное, и Катынь немцы устроили? Потому что стреляли с маузеров ко-ко, и докуументы были ко-ко-ко, ведь коммунист никогда не возьмёт в руки чужое оружие)) Меня смешат комуняки, каждый один тупее другого. "Покажи архивы, которые они сожгли", то есть, я должен показать то, что было уничтожено и чего больше нет ))) Удобно. Вот www.kommersant.ru/doc/3652040 тебе, комуняка, примерное понимание как уничтожаются документы и о том, что это делается СЕКРЕТНО. Но тебе зачем это знать, можно ходить требовать пруфов, что что-то уничтожается)

[@redtobertshateshandles]

There's two books that you can read for free online by the Tchernavins who escaped from an early Gulag. Not too boring either. The first were liquidation camps. Later they became slave labour camps. It was all very efficient. Thanks for showing this.

[@dineshsadhwani3717]

Citizens during Soviet USSR: I never want to land up in a gulag This guy: Gulag, here I come!!

[@mossycryptid]

His accent is so interesting to me... sometimes, words are pronounced in a way that sounds like a Texan accent (I'm from the states), and sometimes he sounds British! Is this an Italian accent, or a byproduct of knowing so many languages, maybe?

[@wkkong88]

This man walks and talks like Bald and Bankrupt, it's amazing

[@Karkaz]

I live in Perm. And I've never been to this place

[@davidmeland5440]

Dave - Can you please share how you learned to speak Russian so well? I'm sure Russians ask you this all the time.

[@DaveLegenda]

I took some university courses back in the day - only to fulfil my lifelong dream of visiting a gulag

[@scythian-rus5421]

"They were sending everyone who was going against the Soviet regime". No they jailed people for serious such as rape, murder and high treason, also you provide no evidence statistical, demographic or archival to justify your viewpoint which means your doing propaganda. Gulags were work camps and every country in the world had work camps at the time, the British had the first concentration camps in the world and many more people died in British, French and German concentration camps, work camps and slave camps then in Soviet gulags : Two best and most reliable documents regarding numbers of imprisoned and killed in Stalin’s days are (1) The Attorney General et al report to Nikita Khrushchev in 1954, saying 2.5 million were imprisoned for all Soviet period, and 600 thousand sentenced to death, and (2) Dr Victor Zemskov painstaking research, well known for its thoroughness. Zemskov had studied activities of the state security bodies from 1921 to 1954, and he discovered that in this period 650 thousand persons have been sentenced to death (not all of them were actually executed) and 2.3 million were sentenced to prison terms. That’s for 33 difficult years of Stalin’s rule. That’s all, folks. Zemskov also provided numbers for each year. In the terrible 1937, there were 1,2 million prisoners in GULAG. Compare it with the US: in 2013, - 2,2 million adults were incarcerated in US federal and state prisons, and county jails. About 1% of adults in the U.S. resident population, 0.8% for the USSR. Additionally, in the US 4,75 million were on probation or on parole, says Wikipedia. There were fewer prisoners in Gulag than in American penitentiary system. For more careful comparison see here. So much for the claims about terrible bloodiness of Russian history and of the Bolshevik rule! In the Soviet days, Russian population had grown at steady average 0.60% per annum, double of that in the UK and France, and much more than in post-Soviet Russia. Russian Empire entered the WWI with 160 million population; the USSR had 210 million in 1959, impossible figures if you accept the multimillion figures of Stalin’s repression. Also your assertion that things are hard to estimate is the fact of every statistical analysis but the data we have present allow us to get the best better picture.

[@scythian-rus5421]

@Autistic Dude lol they sent babies hahaha

[@scythian-rus5421]

@Autistic Dude I hope your joking and not serious.

[@scythian-rus5421]

@Autistic Dude Even if something is written dosent mean its true, everything is subject to analysis and only things based on statistical, demographic and archival evidence should be trusted as it gives the closest most accurate picture of reality, much of what the West published about Russia either about the Soviet Union, Tsarist Russia or pre-Romanov Russia is oftentimes not based on any of these things at all no wonder you have autistic in your title.

[@nafisshaiakbarov8877]

Absolutely correct pronunciation of the city name! 💪

[@DHJVCGB]

cashing in on that soviet adventurizing

[@vifree9277]

I live in Perm and this is the first time I've heard about this place.

[@Turbo_TechnoLogic]

how the hell

[@MWENDA-vv5im]

@@smaggich Why is it still open then? Isn't it a state sponsored museum?

[@MWENDA-vv5im]

@@smaggich I agree with that consensus. Stalin was a hero.

[@mattiasakemalm1412]

@@MWENDA-vv5im Raoul Wallenberg was a hero, whom your 'hero' had killed.

[@KoichiFirst8092]

15:28 The exercise would be to just walk, walk and walk below the barbed wire. There are similar rooms in Russian maximum security prisons for those sentenced for life.

[@AverageBritruleBritannia]

There's reports that alot of abandoned gulags in siberia and other places are being preoccupied and rebuilt by the FSB and Russian Military

[@billybobbinzzz5667]

Last time I was at a gulag had to fight my way out with a pistol

[@bingzaniGercel]

9:06 Imagine you were waked up at 5 o clock. Totally sweaten. And you have strong floaters in your eye. And the day awaits you with 12 hours of strong labour. Nice, uh?

[@CanariasCanariass]

Yeah, must feel like hell. Then imagine going to the bathroom because you have use the toilet but there are 200 other people around wanting to use that same toilet. Cant imagine the smell.

[@montrealbreakcore3241]

As a native speaker, I am impressed by your Russian!

[@francoismartini5148]

Small mistake, at the start, there were Gulag camps absolutely everywhere, even in the suburbs of Moscow. Prisoners worked in town, in factories and construction sites.

[@Slava_2425]

How much is tour at perm gulag and is there a museum too

[@marcomartinati3955]

Bel video molto interessante. Marco

[@geertclaeys6209]

Very nice and interesting documentary, well done 🙂

[@CSmith-eh5op]

It's an ensuite room, how cool is that 😂😂

[@tur6oo]

my grandma and grandpa liveis near perm in a town named krasnokamsk

[@lonwaslien104]

👍👍

[@douglaspowell7627]

Your videos have confirmed my decision… i want to come over there and live,learn,work and take in all i can of that massive country.👍🇨🇦

[@backupspace5712]

Can we take away any book that is being displayed in the camp?

[@Ile-des-Soeurs_Verdun]

Gulag systems closed on January 25, 1960. So there are no more operational gulags in 2022

[@oliaherus474]

Oh wow, the moment pointed at 2 men who actually lived in that gulag my jaw dropped. One of them is V. Stus a really famous Ukrainian writer, that was killed by Soviet system. Thanks for showing this place!

[@highpnosis]

Хороший у тебя русский братан!

[@sluzardo5879]

Somewhere outside the city of Perm in the woods is where the Bolshevics murdered the Tsars Brother, Michael Romanov... His body has never been found.....yet......

[@christopherlawler3033]

Actually . . . Russia had GULAG camps in just about every city or populated area in the former Soviet Union . . . By accounts of Anne Elizabeth Applebaum, a foremost expert at the subject-matter has written two book-novels on the topic , as well as having given lectures at numerous colleges & universities (including those prestigious Ivy-League educational institutions of higher-learning) . . . In totality , she has written a sum of 13 non-fictional books on this topic of Marxism & the Soviet Union - in particular - the Soviet GULAG System of Forced-Labor Camps (as there were reportedly THOUSANDS of camps under each individual administrative jurisdiction - in totality - enslaving roughly 15% of the entire Soviet populace & also enslaving or conscripting foreigners to the horrors of the GULAG forced-labor camp system) . Many of her lectures can be found on KZbin as well , for reference .

[@stefanomarchesani8804]

It's already the third video I watch aboutthis Gulag camp. Bald&Bankrupt and Eli from Russia were already there .. .. It's starting to be a little bit inflated..

[@zunger1896]

Show to the world KGB museum in Vilnius, Lithunia

[@guglihule3149]

Túl sokat vagy a képen, ahol jársz érdekesebb lenne csak narrátorként nézni.

[@gappuma7883]

You beat bald to it

[@justsomebloke6784]

Ref gulags always being situated away from populated areas, this is not correct. There were actually gulags in places like central Moscow where Zeks with certain skills were required for their labour. Oddly enough there were certain efforts made to hide the nature of transport trains by blanking the windows, but that only made them even more obvious. The reasons for any given location of gulag, was for resources required or civil engineering projects such as canals or railways. There were some horrific experiments such as putting hundreds of Zeks onto isolated islands to fend for themselves, which resulted in cannibalism and other inhuman acts. Read Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago if you are interested.

[@Elonmuskasseater69]

Where we dropping boys

[@TheDude-xp4vb]

Storm the gulag

[@Rustycaddy17]

This is not the GULag, this a labor camp run by the GULag...

[@filyapanzerman335]

it's like auschwitz

[@user-bn9hg]

Ponpes darul gulag

[@OguzDemirelli]

its cruel how you have to worship your jailers and the people who put you there

[@bingzaniGercel]

Haha the peoole in buses dont wear masks. Even it is mandatory i think.

[@SuperGeronimo999]

North Korean prison camps make the gulags look like an adventure park.

[@bingzaniGercel]

Yes. The christians are in cages. They are tortured much heavier than the rest of the korean gulag inmates

[@mrwonderful2142]

Too bad it's not still operational

[@derplerpgerpsnerp]

Russian Borat.

[@mt1885]

Too all of those who want 'Socialism/Communism' this is where you will be.

[@boschmagkwanghoka2542]

nope

[@mariolsinanaj5942]

Socialism and Comunism are different as Comunism is more Extreme Left

[@mt1885]

@@mariolsinanaj5942 Enslavement of the masses and fools who say (it is not the same) - United Soviet Socialist Republics all the same - ENDS in ruin as all of them do bankrupt and everyone in misery.

[@mariolsinanaj5942]

Biden is a Socialist for example. The Reason Soviets used violence is coz naturally people don t have much a Social conscious, most are Egoist. Work only for Themselves

[@mt1885]

@@mariolsinanaj5942 JESUS is TRUTH without that you have nothing - that is the source of the problem. Vote out GOD - then you get all of this.

[@JI0ruhify]

Какой, блять, ГУЛаг?? Зачем ты каждый раз вставляешь эту аббревиатуру, да ещё и не к месту? ГУЛаг расшифровывается как Главное Управление исправительно-трудовых ЛАГерей.

[@user-yi2re7jv3s]

Особенно абсурдно звучит посадили в лагерь ГУЛАГ.

[@fredlenin8984]

Socialism is so liberating for the workers isnt it

[@janlampert5688]

1. Have all the advantages in society your live in and work and pay taxes. 2. Work less hours only 5 days a week 3. Have 14 salaries(Hitler have introduced this and till these days some West European countries practice this rule. In Communistic East Europe we had 13 salaries. 4. Have the best education possible for your kids free of charge 5. Have the best free medical care 6. Have 6 weeks paid holidays in a year (spend 2 weeks at sea resort, spend 2 weeks Christmas holidays skiing in Alps and 2 weeks in spring Easter holidays.) 7. Get cheaper Government accommodation , so you not a prisoner of your mortgage 8. Have more time to spend on your national culture 9. Be protected and controlled by your Government from speculative enterprises 10. Be happy with owning the land only above the ground, below it belongs to your Government. 11. This iis European standard, which is definately not a capitalists system of U S. 12. The freedom aspect became irrelevant these days.

[@rtservice6858]

That’s a good place for Putin.

[@xalekcey]

Very similar to the modern "secret prisons of the CIA" and Guantanamo.

[@scythian-rus5421]

"They were sending everyone who was going against the Soviet regime". No they jailed people for serious such as rape, murder and high treason, also you provide no evidence statistical, demographic or archival to justify your viewpoint which means your doing propaganda. Gulags were work camps and every country in the world had work camps at the time, the British had the first concentration camps in the world and many more people died in British, French and German concentration camps, work camps and slave camps then in Soviet gulags : Two best and most reliable documents regarding numbers of imprisoned and killed in Stalin’s days are (1) The Attorney General et al report to Nikita Khrushchev in 1954, saying 2.5 million were imprisoned for all Soviet period, and 600 thousand sentenced to death, and (2) Dr Victor Zemskov painstaking research, well known for its thoroughness. Zemskov had studied activities of the state security bodies from 1921 to 1954, and he discovered that in this period 650 thousand persons have been sentenced to death (not all of them were actually executed) and 2.3 million were sentenced to prison terms. That’s for 33 difficult years of Stalin’s rule. That’s all, folks. Zemskov also provided numbers for each year. In the terrible 1937, there were 1,2 million prisoners in GULAG. Compare it with the US: in 2013, - 2,2 million adults were incarcerated in US federal and state prisons, and county jails. About 1% of adults in the U.S. resident population, 0.8% for the USSR. Additionally, in the US 4,75 million were on probation or on parole, says Wikipedia. There were fewer prisoners in Gulag than in American penitentiary system. For more careful comparison see here. So much for the claims about terrible bloodiness of Russian history and of the Bolshevik rule! In the Soviet days, Russian population had grown at steady average 0.60% per annum, double of that in the UK and France, and much more than in post-Soviet Russia. Russian Empire entered the WWI with 160 million population; the USSR had 210 million in 1959, impossible figures if you accept the multimillion figures of Stalin’s repression. Also your assertion that things are hard to estimate is the fact of every statistical analysis but the data we have present allow us to get the best better picture.

[@theallseeingeye9388]

Im from Malaysia and this is the first time I have come across some data given for Stalins Gulags. I just learnt that the gulags had started under Lenin himself. Mind you for Asians, learning about world history stops short of the Axis and the Allies. Th war miracolously started with some guy assasinating the Arch Duke. The popular myth today is Stalin killed up to 30 over million of his own people by sending them to the gulags. Without data or a researched estimate, we got nothing to compare history with.

[@scythian-rus5421]

@@theallseeingeye9388 Gulags (penal labor) also existed in the Russian empire and around 1.5 million people in total were sent to gulag, around 650000 thousand people were executed but alot of them had their sentences commuted to something less worse.

[@reginafontenot600]

As an american i say we release all of our criminals into YOUR neighborgmhood and build a gigantic wall around your neighborhood to shut you the feck up and let you fend on your own btw the banking cabal have caused all of this.

[@scythian-rus5421]

@@reginafontenot600 No you can keep your criminals to yourself, Russia can manage just fine by itself the only thing the West did was to psychologically damage it at every stage of its development so they caused self doubt but this is becoming a thing of the past however.