Persimmon Tree Propagation | How to Grow Persimmon Trees

[@Badger705]

Suggestion. The easiest way is to put the seeds in a mason jar. Put the lid on. Let is sit for 3 days undisturbed. Then shake jar vigorously and strain through a wire mesh strainer and repeat if needed. This works on tomatoes and other veg as well.

[@cletusharper403]

I usually eat the persimmons off the tree and keep the seeds on my mouth until I chew the pulp off. They come out really clean.

[@TheOzarkExplorer]

We had a persimmon pop up on our place, conveniently next to our veggie garden, and it bore fruit this year. We've had one that was ready to taste just a few days ago so I brought it in and did that, and I saved the seeds in it. They're ready to do what's described here so I'm going to get on that and get more as they ripen on the tree. Hopefully I'll get some more growing out there soon!

[@greatescapefarms]

Good luck. I love propagating plants!

[@yomamajanet]

This reminds me of cleaning my Pawpaw seeds. I discovered what works well is a nylon bath glove, it scrapes the pulp right off of the seeds.

[@greatescapefarms]

Wow, I will have to try that. Anything to make the process easier. Thanks for sharing!

[@lewisbales6190]

I use a hand operated stainless steel food processor to separate the pulp from the seeds. It is real simple to use and easy to clean. I gave a large amount of Persimmons to my friend and I have two empty 24oz plastic jars full of clean seeds plus a few more. I put the jars in the refrigerator. I've got a few Persimmon trees in a spot that I don't want them in. They are probably 5 or 6 years old. I plan on planting some of the seeds in part of my back yard. My driveway is lined with Persimmon trees that are pretty old but producing really great.

[@greatescapefarms]

That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!

[@OurNewLand]

Very helpful info. We're currently stratifying chestnut seeds in our fridge, and we are thinking of doing the same with seeds from our persimmon trees next winter. Thanks a ton.

[@randalllaue4042]

Year of the persimmon...

[@greatescapefarms]

Awesome.

[@celmonico]

I also forget to say that we use a bag that let the pulp pass and hold the seeds so when we squeeze the bag with many persimmons inside of it we remove all the pulp and leave the seeds clean, as long as the persimmon is ripen. You can tell when the persimmon is ripen when the pulp around the seeds comes off easily in your mouth or during the squeezing process.

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks for the info!

[@kathleenselig6254]

When we harvest our persimmons we wash them and remove their tops, then use a metal ricer/strainer with a wooden pestle over a bowl to mash the flesh off of the seeds. It is not a fast process but it does produce results. It leaves you with the skin and seeds in the strainer and an applesauce like persimmon pulp that is easy to freeze in the bowl.

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks Kathleen! I'll give that a try.

[@travisdavis1042]

I’ve also seen people use a hand crank food mill. Separates the seed from the meat and shoots a jellied persimmon out the bottom seive (strainer).

[@greatescapefarms]

That sounds awesome. I may have to find one of those!

[@travisdavis1042]

@@greatescapefarms a lot of the Amish stores around me sell similar items.

[@greatescapefarms]

@@travisdavis1042 Thank you so much. We have had Amish moving into the neighborhood for the past two years now. I'll ask a few that I know.

[@lynkrauss7519]

I did mine directly to the pot, and after 2 weeks did sprout, I just use potting soil..

[@greatescapefarms]

Awesome!

[@bannguyen5057]

Lyn….- Same here! October 2019 bought and ate fruits, very few seeds found, we put seeds directly into the pot and kept pot inside during winter months while sprout came up? Spring 2020 brought pot outside but did not plant trees until Fall 2020 (pot was placed in the center of many other pots on patio to protected it from being eating up due to the last experiences animals would eat the trees up before Summer come!). I have 4 healthy 3 feet tall trees growing in my back yard now October/Fall 2021. Question? First Persimmon tree I bought from nursery took 3-4 years to bears fruit, how long to get fruits from seeds grown trees?

[@celmonico]

Thanks for the video. I found a big tree loaded with persimmons and I have been for 2 weeks picking the ones that fall from the tree with an average of 30 a day ready to be eaten. In SC there is a belief that they only get ripen after the first frost. I had never seen a wild persimmon before and what a surprise when I found a park with the big tree loaded. Now I have hundred of seeds that I am saving to plant and need to know which seed is female plant and which one is male. I have several native small persimmon plants in my farm but none has produced any fruit and I am wondering if they are male. I also know that they love to get as much sun light as possible and do not like soil with too much water. My wife made mousse persimmon and it is delicious and no need to add sugar. They are supper sweet. My wife believes that the chubby seeds are the ones that will produce fruits and the skinny ones are the male plants. I also believe that I will need male plants for pollination. Again thank you taking your time to share the knowledge.

[@kosherpork3034]

Jesus Cristo Reina I don't think there's a gender in common persimmon. I have only one tree and it has fruits.

[@celmonico]

I believe it needs male and female for pollination, I have 3 trees and only one produce. The other 2 does not and they have the same age and development.

[@greatescapefarms]

I took the following quote from: uncommonfruit.cias.wisc.edu/american-persimmon/ "Persimmon trees are usually dioecious (either male or female), but some have complete flowers that make them self-fruitful. They are somewhat unique in that sexual expression can vary from year to year."

[@greatescapefarms]

I took the following quote from: uncommonfruit.cias.wisc.edu/american-persimmon/ "Persimmon trees are usually dioecious (either male or female), but some have complete flowers that make them self-fruitful. They are somewhat unique in that sexual expression can vary from year to year."

[@greatescapefarms]

Agree. According to the link I posted on your other comment, they can be male or female and in some cases both and can actually change from year to year. This was all news to me. Thanks for your comment which spurred the research.

[@grandwonder5858]

So, they must go through 40 degrees temperature for a least 2-3 months before they would germinate sometime in late Winter or early Spring? What if I set my refrigerator temperature at 45 degrees, is it okay as well? Also, if all I have are top soil and wood-chip compost would those be okay to be used with the seeds as well? I also wonder if these rules pertain to domesticated persimmons as well.

[@greatescapefarms]

I have not personally experimented with different temperatures. I just follow what they recommend online and in books. In nature they stratify outside in nature, so the temperature varies a good bit depending on the surrounding weather. If you are in an environment where they grow natively, then you can just put them in a pot and put them out doors.

[@TheJavi2345]

El Diospyros Virginiana, no necesita pasar por un período de estratificacion para que nazcan bien las semillas. Se plantan directamente en suelo o en maceta después de comer el fruto.

[@pwu8194]

In English: Diospyros Virginiana does not need to go through stratification period for the seeds to germinate well. They are planted directly in soil or potted after eating the fruit.

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks for the translation!

[@TanvirHossen-q8o]

Can we do grafting from mature plant on plants grow from seedlings?

[@nadiaz4769]

How long does it take to get green leaves from a cutting?

[@greatescapefarms]

I have not done cuttings on persimmon, only seeds. But here are the general rules for cuttings: For a cutting there are tree ways to do it: Hardwood, softwood, and semi-hardwood. With both softwood and semi-hardwood cuttings you will take the cuttings with leaves and keep them although they may be trimmed some. Hardwood cuttings are taken in winter when the plant is dormant and there are no leaves. In this case, it will leaf out in the spring around the same time as other trees if the cutting took.

[@MakePeace123]

Do you check the seeds and moisture every so often for moisture level or rotting?

[@SueLall1008]

How long does it take persimmon to bear fruits from seed?

[@greatescapefarms]

I did a quick check online and the general consensus is generally 3-5 years.

[@amyjohnson7604]

Can you use coconut coir instead of peat moss?

[@greatescapefarms]

You could. I've actually used paper towels before. Just some material to hold the moisture.

[@Athabina]

I have 3 Fuyu persimmon seedlings which are only about 8 inches tall and very slim; when do I up pot them and plant outside? It is 10 C -13 C max temp daily and down to 3-4 C at night here in Victoria, BC

[@greatescapefarms]

If they are leafed out, you need to keep them in until you stay above freezing with no frost what so ever. If they are not leafed out (dormant) they can go out at any time.

[@msjinabina]

was there a follow up video to this one?!

[@greatescapefarms]

No, I'm sorry. Life has kept me busy and I never got back to a followup.

[@EarlybirdFarmSC]

What if they are seeds that you have picked off the ground in the wintertime? Should I still put them in the refrigerator? I have a few trees that are really good producers that I dug around and got seeds. I am wanting to plant them.

[@greatescapefarms]

They should bee fine. Probably best to not allow them to freeze too deeply. If you simply plant them where you want them in the soil, that will usually keep them from freezing too much. What I mean by too much is that we are going below zero next week where I'm at. The seeds will lose a lot of viability if they get that cold. In the ground, they will not get that cold.

[@EarlybirdFarmSC]

Ahh ok. I am in South Carolina. We don't get that cold here. It has been in the 30's this season, maybe a night or two it dipped in the 20's. Every once in a while we get down in the teens but that is about it. I went ahead and stuck them in a freezer bag with some moist peat moss and put them in the refrigerator. I was thinking that since they have been laying on the moist ground for a few months already that I may not need to stratifiy them but I will stick them in there for a few more months to be sure. Thanks for your help.

[@whatnotzone6866]

I've read that the female American Persimmon trees will not produce fruit without pollination. I've also read that the female trees will still produce fruit but without seeds. Do you know which is the correct information?

[@dalexfilms]

I would be shocked if you could get seedless persimmons; people all over the country would be delighted.

[@chrisweber4450]

Do you have to add more water to the peatmoss at anytime during its stay in the fridge?

[@pikecollisionllc9868]

Shouldnt have to since its in a sealed bag.

[@greatescapefarms]

No need to add more water.

[@greatescapefarms]

Correct. Thanks!

[@senpaieh2434]

So u have to wait for them to ripe up to get seeds?

[@greatescapefarms]

Yes, as you do with most fruits and seeds.

[@adamb.8854]

Hi, i bought 100 seeds from ebay, they have not arrived yet. Can i use 1-2years old seeds? I am in zone 7/b, i will put them in the fride, and i thought to pregreminate them in small really small tiny grower's containers in front of the window in february/march , and plant them outside in april when the frost is over to win a growth flush. It makes sense?

[@greatescapefarms]

I have not experimented with older seeds to check germination rates. Please let me know how your experiment works out.

[@awildapproach]

Very helpful! Thank you

[@greatescapefarms]

You are most welcome. I'll be posting another video showing the process from stratification to 1 year potted plants. It should be out in another month or so.

[@mer0106]

Does it have to be peat moss to srratify or can I use any type of soil. For instance I have organic raised bed mix.

[@greatescapefarms]

Really any type of soil that has enough organic matter to hold some moisture. I have actually used moist paper towels before, so it doesn't even need to be soil.

[@kosherpork3034]

I just pop the fruit in my mouth and spit out the seeds.

[@greatescapefarms]

Awesome way of cleaning seeds!

[@veronicasimpson7953]

What type of persimmons these are they look like a plum type and how do i plant the seed roots up or the seed down

[@enufots4621]

Should be roots down. The pod/seed shell will come out of the soil. Eventually, the embryonic leaves (cotyledon) will come out of the shell. Just let the seed covering fall off on it's own. Good luck!

[@veronicasimpson7953]

Enuf Ots really appreciate it!

[@greatescapefarms]

Hi Veronica - The ones in the video are American persimmon. And roots down.

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks Enuf!

[@monihahnel7081]

I want to try growing a plant myself, but I cant find fruits with seeds. Is there a certain variety with seeds?

[@greatescapefarms]

I just grabbed some American persimmon fruit and they were loaded with seeds. Where are you getting your fruit from?

[@basicnomad]

Thanks

[@greatescapefarms]

You are most welcome!

[@vickielawson3701]

I used to sell the heck out of my persimmon palp I use to get $14.00 for two cups of pulp How much can you get for your tree starts? I live in Indiana.. and I do get a lot of persimons with a lot of seeds.

[@greatescapefarms]

Vickie, I sell my trees for either $19.95 or $24.95 depending on how many I have.

[@Jayfufufu]

Do u sell seeds

[@greatescapefarms]

Not at this time. I actually just walk through the woods and harvest them from the wild trees in the area.

[@reneebrown5598]

Sure you can shake the fruit out of a full grown tree. We used to have an almond orchard. Take an axe handle. Wrap it with tire tread. Wire it on. Smack the trunk or large limb. Persimmons on the ground. The tire tread keeps you from hurting your tree

[@solfeinberg437]

I don't see this working for a tree that's a foot and a half diameter and 80 feet high. That is not happening.

[@sonyafeinberg7378]

Some of these trees are about as thick around as I am and the trunk disappears into the canopy 40 ft or so, at least, above me and there are no lower branches - maybe I could climb the tree or just look underneath for ones that happened to have fallen recently. Maybe for some intermediate size trees this axe handle thing would work.

[@greatescapefarms]

Renee - good solution for smaller trees. Thanks!

[@greatescapefarms]

Sol - Agree!

[@JamesCouch777]

I take a long stick and shake the individual branches to get the fruit to fall.

[@eminempreg]

I'm mad, I found some yummy perfectly ripe soft persimmons at this national park in my state and I ate two and brought home the seeds but now I lost them!!

[@greatescapefarms]

That stinks. You may have to go back to the park :)

[@leodeboca]

great!

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks.

[@jyotitrivedi1230]

Can we grow this fruit in india

[@greatescapefarms]

I'm not familiar with India's climate. But American Persimmon will grow in USDA hardiness zones 4-9. If your climate matches one of those zones, you should be able to.

[@aperson1181]

Any updates?

[@greatescapefarms]

I grew out several trees and planted them in the woods. I have video footage I need to put together that shows the process from seed to 1-year of growth. I hope to get that edited and posted in the coming weeks.

[@sekouconde4061]

How to got seeds from you?

[@greatescapefarms]

Sorry, I do not sell seeds. We only grow them out and sell the plants locally.

[@grandwonder5858]

Those have to be wild native persimmons because they are so small and seedy. The ones I grow in my backyard are about 3 times larger and hardly have any seeds at all. There are a few wild persimmon trees growing in the edges of woods near my house in Maryland and there used to be one growing on the parking lot area of my school, but they cut it down a couple years ago. One thing I noticed is that the wild persimmons are inedible due to their astringency and the nasty taste that they leave on your tongue that take a while to get rid off!

[@theresa94010]

May I ask if you prune your persimmon trees? about what time of the year do you prune? Or do they need pruning? I would like to keep my tree under 10 ft for easier picking, that's why I was thinking maybe I should prune every year to keep it under control.

[@greatescapefarms]

I'd guess that your persimmon is an Asian variety as those are usually much larger and with fewer seeds. With the American persimmons, you can not pick them from the tree or they will be astringent. You have to wait for them to fall by themselves and then they are nice and soft and sweet.

[@greatescapefarms]

I do not prune mine. American persimmons grow to 35+ feet. Asian persimmons generally don't grow that tall with some being very short. If you have a tree you want to keep short, I'd prune it like a fruit tree - In the winter when it is dormant. I'd prune the taller branches and try to get it to grow more horizontal than vertical.

[@crazyoldhippieguy]

Do you sell persimmon seeds and cst of shipping.

[@greatescapefarms]

Hi oldartguy, I do not ship anything any more. It became to expensive to ship with department of agriculture inspections.

[@saramccree4956]

Good info!

[@greatescapefarms]

Well thank you Miss Sara!

[@HollyVanHart]

💜 Great video! 💗 👏

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks Holly!

[@ankurschoolandcollege7352]

need some seed.

[@greatescapefarms]

I did a quick search on Amazon and found several sources. There are many, but here is the first that popped up: amzn.to/3ae6xmE

[@spencersnursery1547]

Looks nice

[@greatescapefarms]

Well Thank you!

[@coreycurtsinger8677]

Where’s the update video

[@greatescapefarms]

I'm afraid I'm behind on posting the update. I did not have enough video footage to post a good video the year after this video was made. So I'm replanting the persimmon threes this year and I'm focusing on putting together better quality video. Sorry for the delay.

[@bank80]

What were the results?

[@greatescapefarms]

We ended up with a couple of dozen trees.

[@lindarussell9379]

Use a food mill to get pulp imusified from skin and seeds

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks Linda!

[@longhairmullet]

Those look like tomatoes, what kind of perssimons are they? Cross between Fuyu and Hachiya.

[@cf8415]

They are the ones that grow in the wild ~a weird fourteen year old who lived in Alabama for five years, at 1:00 AM, who still has a northern accent, and is obsessed with nature and classical music. Hope that answered your question.

[@greatescapefarms]

They are wild American and are not a variety that was cross bred to be larger. Also, the Asian variety are MUCH larger.

[@greatescapefarms]

Thanks Cora!

[@NorthtoHopeDesert_Hues]

Are you selling your persimmon seeds yet?

[@greatescapefarms]

Sorry. I do not ship anything any more. It became to expensive to ship with department of agriculture inspections.

[@cherioliphant]

The problem I am finding is the persimmons I have don’t have seeds!

[@yomama1254]

It's true, some are virtually seedless. Our fuyu doesnt make seeds. But the other does. Im looking around for how to start from cuttings. A branch broke off the fuyu and since they dont seed....

[@greatescapefarms]

I have not found seedless to be a problem with American persimmon.

[@greatescapefarms]

Yo, I believe Fuyu is an Asian variety.

[@yomama1254]

@@greatescapefarms yes it is. So is the hyachi i have. Im dont hav e any american variety. I stuck about 50 twigs in soil from the fuyu. We'll see what happens

[@commonsence2cents145]

Coons bring my seeds to me

[@greatescapefarms]

Nice.

[@trinityestrada9588]

The actual seed germination process instructions start at 9:33. Even then, he keeps talking needlessly. Then he didn't even show the outcome!

[@greatescapefarms]

Sorry for the rambling and talking needlessly.

[@eyshshshsh357]

На Україну відправляєте ?

[@greatescapefarms]

Sorry - no comprehend

[@johnbalasa711]

Give some air for the persimmon tree cut all those none edible trees all a round so he can grow outward and brings more fruit.

[@greatescapefarms]

I would love to, but it is a neighbors property :)

[@markpiersall9815]

You went to too much work and left out an important part. Just toss the seeds in a paper bag for 60 days and then move to the refrigerator. In the Spring place the seeds in water overnight. The next morning the floaters are the dudes and the sinkers are going to probably grow. I ran persimmons through a colander and collected seeds and tossed them in a paper bag in the freezer and planted them Easter Day. 47 out of 32 came up; I did not soak in water to stratify or I could have done better than 68%.

[@apsaranni]

Why is this Persimmons are so tiny?

[@cf8415]

They are smaller in the wild

[@sonyafeinberg7378]

they're wild American persimmons not Japanese cultivated ones. but they're very good, very prolific, and very hardy for much of the Eastern(?) Southeastern, at least, United States.

[@greatescapefarms]

They are wild American and are not a variety that was cross bred to be larger. Also, the Asian variety are MUCH larger.

[@greatescapefarms]

Correct! Thanks!

[@greatescapefarms]

Correct! Thanks!

[@tugulearadu8674]

Wtf, i cant wait till february

[@greatescapefarms]

Ok.

[@chainsaw5524]

You do it different than me. Wash if they are on the ground? You have to be kidding. Just put them to you mouth and suck out the inside. Through away the skin which might have some dirt or grass on it. spit out the seeds into a cup. My persimmons never make it to my house.

[@dragondawn5346]

Video wasted 3/4 of the time to get to the point of showing the seeds. Then another 20% of the time stirring soil. What's left is 3% of useful information.

[@sammeesum]

Unnecessarily prolonged

[@greatescapefarms]

Sorry Sam. Trying to not ramble so much.

[@jupiterdzhoovy558]

This guy has just produced a rip-off video. More than half of the video was spent on removing the seeds and the rest of the video showed how to prepare the soil and in the latter part, the persimmon seeds were planted. But there is nothing in the video showing that the seeds ever germinated. Knock, knock. Hello! Is anybody in there

[@greatescapefarms]

Ripping you off how?