Persona 3 Portable - Elizabeth Boss Fight / [Maniac] NO O.Telos/Divine Pillar/Unshaken Will

It was my first time ever trying doing this fight and before getting into the end game I didn't unfortunately max the Sun SL and the Empress SL so I couldn't make the "Divine Pillar" which is an essential item for this fight and same as for the Skill "Unshaken Will" which is a little less essential but still very good to have against Elizabeth.
The equipment I had during this fight was: All Armor of Light, Lucifer's Blade and the Barbaric Bracers as an accessory.
In order to record the video I transferred my save file through my PSVita into PPSSPP.
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Thanks for watching!

[@xadierz1816]

And here I thought elizabeth's physical attacks has a high accuracy rate even if you're decked with ali dance, shoes of light and angelic grace

[@robjoker3786]

in this version you can dodge her, in FES you can´t

[@brenden7245]

Damn I remember doing this on normal. Both Liz and Theo got the worst high counter luck ever by just ending up using diaharan on how you have to time it or they just end up randomly critical hitting you to death. Props to you beating it without divine pillar.

[@johnnyplto5592]

this is what true love looks like💕

[@adachivineboom]

love it when she hit me with that 9999 megidolaon 🥰🥰

[@brendansage6876]

Makoto: "...And then I summoned Lucifer and Helel at the same time and deep-fried her. And that's how I met your mother." Their kids: "...WHAT?!!" Elizabeth: "Don't worry though, I got better!"

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

Is there any way to bait her into attacking and getting countered on a turn 2? Because that luck is pretty much the only thing I need to win now (I did a bit of Homunculus farming after enough attempts and it has made quite a difference)!

[@Serelicia]

Hey! Thank you for your comment ^^ Unfortunately it has been a while since I did this boss fight so my memory is kiiiinda fuzzy right now uhuh but from what I can remember it's just base on pure luck whenever she's going to melee attack you, so you also need to hope that the 2nd attack is also the one that High Counter will trigger on. If you have the Divine Pillar and Orpheus Telos you should be fine though! (Even Messiah is fine yeah). Anyway the "trick" is to keep in your mind how much damage you have done to her (With maybe a calculator) and never let go her HP below 9999 otherwise she will automatically full heal again and it's pretty much a reset. Once you know that you're in range to do enough damage with a High Counter to have her below 9999 HP in her 2nd turn that's when you must use Armageddon to finish her off. (But like I said on top that's completely RNG). I'll just leave in this comment her rotation in case you still don't have it! Good luck! PS: That's why in my video you'll also see me standing still a lot of the times just becasue I was always trying to make sure I had the right damage before using Armageddon uhuh Turn 1 - Fire Turn 2 - Ice Turn 3 - Electricity Turn 4 - Wind Turn 5 - Light Turn 6 - Darkness Turn 7 - Status Ailments Turn 8 - Almighty

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

@@Serelicia Way ahead of you! 😉 Been using an Orpheus Telos+Messiah duo (Messiah mainly for doing extra damage in the element phases). And I've been keeping track of my dealt damage. Like I said, all I need is a second-turn counter, instead of those damn first-turn counters that have triggered Diarahan on at least half a dozen attempts. And that's *after* I had to take a break to do some Homunculus farming, because even Defend+Enduring Soul isn't enough to reliably survive against Metatron and Alice otherwise.

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

Update: *_I WON!!!_* 😁😁😁

[@Serelicia]

Oh I was just about to commet to say that yeah at that point you just had to keep trying and eventually you will gonna defeat her! (And yeah farming the Homunculus was also really good!) Anyway I'm glad you finally defeated her! It's so satisfying! xD

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

@@Serelicia My Messiah didn't have full Magic or Endurance (#Ouch) even *with* Lucifer's Blade, but I only just now realized that some of the Vision Quest battles give King-level Incense Cards when rematched!

[@aleph3507]

What guide did u use to max ur social links? Or did u not use one at all? Sorry if this is a dumb question lol

[@theinfamousguil]

she didnt get max social links so she didnt get orpheus telos, divine pillar and unshaken will (im talking about the player)

[@harmoniousharmonmaster2415]

Will you do another video for the Margaret battle?

[@mgsxmike]

What is the secret in getting 10x Infinity from Fortune and Strength door fight?

[@Serelicia]

I can't really remember for certain but you can try to get as many negatives results by the wheel of fortune that specifically affect you or a party member and hopefully that should work. That's kinda what I somewhat remember, I wish I could be more of help but haven't yet replayed P3P in a while.

[@FireRunner96]

wait so if you guard, does that prevent you from getting inflicted with ailments? That's really good to know! I was wondering how you did this without UW! Does that also work in vanilla/FES?

[@mianlo2624]

Yes blocking prevent you from getting inflicted with an aliment, Hama, and Mudo attack. However, Elizabeth/Theodore can attack first to remove your defense stance.

[@randompersonpassedby5126]

Does ice boost and ice amp stack each other ? Since i went with panta rhei and my friend said that wind amp and wind boost dont stack each other,also is this much easier on normal ? I only plan on trying this on normal and hard

[@Serelicia]

Hey! Amp and Boost do actually stack, I can't really say for sure on FES or Classic P3 (although I believe yes) but I'm sure about Portable. (You can't anyway do Amp + Amp or Boost + Boost or also use any Bracers that gives you another boost). The difference between Normal, Hard and Maniac is the damage you take, on Normal is standard, Hard 1.5x and Maniac 2x

[@randompersonpassedby5126]

@@Serelicia thanks you

[@randompersonpassedby5126]

@@Serelicia so uhhh,i did some test run on eliz with messiah on normal difficulty (i dont have orpheus telos) and sometime around turn 3-4 eliz use megidolaon,which suppose to not happen according to the guide on gamefaq,did you ever encounter that ?

[@Serelicia]

@@randompersonpassedby5126 You can't have any Personas who can block, absorb or repel any attack, also if you have the Omnipotent Orb equipped, she will always cast Megidolaon and one-shot you.

[@randompersonpassedby5126]

@@Serelicia but i use messiah all the time and i dont put any null,drain or repel on him,are the repel light by default when he is fusion count too ?

[@astupidphase]

Wait, how did you not get hit by Megidolaon if you had Messiah? I thought you couldn't use any Personas that null, repel or drain any element or else Elizabeth would have instantantly killed you?

[@Serelicia]

You can avoid that from happening if you switch Persona that has null, repel or drain to that current Type before her rotation. With Messiah for example you must switch on the 4th turn, else yeah she's going to cast Megidolaon and 1-shot you. These are my old "notes" that I had to keep track of her rotation: xD Turn 1 - Fire (No Ice Spell = BLOCK)- (Start with Anubis, Switch Persona > Messiah > Mind Charge) Turn 2 - Ice Turn 3 - Electricity (NO Ice Spell / Heal / Mind Charge ) Turn 4 - Wind (Switch Persona > Anubis) Turn 5 - Light Turn 6 - Darkness Turn 7 - Status Ailments Turn 8 - Almighty

[@thomastsohonis1218]

Hehe, today's my 19 birthday. And I know persona 5 royal is out. I have finished 5, beaten the twins, reaper, maxed the compendium, and I did the same with 4 . The only thing I haven't finished was this game, cause this game is the hardest one out of all 3, I still need to max compendium, need to max the link with the robot and max the one with the ice queen. I need tips if you can on how to get heart items please. Thank you if you can, I will do this, hopefully I could beat her tomarrow, I do have it on easy but it doesn't make it easy , not really. Cause every time I start a battle it's Insta kill, but with these rules and following this video, I could win yet

[@thomastsohonis1218]

Besides, best thing to finish now that we're stuck inside

[@Serelicia]

Hey! Thank you for your comment ^-^ and also happy birthday! I'm not sure if you are referring to Persona 3 Portable or FES, but anyway in Persona 3 Portable in order to get a Heart Item you need to fuse Personas and there is a random chance that the new Persona that you just fused is gonna have a Heart Item. There is a little "trick" that you can also do which is to Register the Persona with the Heart Item in the Compendium just before he's about to level up to his last skill, because that's when you will obtain the Item itself and basically with this "trick" you can keep resummon it (as long as you have the money for it) and still re-obtain the Heart Item again. This "Trick" is just kinda useful only with Messiah though because he has multiple Heart Items that you might want to get. If you got the right Equipment which is all Armor of Light, Lucifer's Blade and the Divine Pillar plus Orpheus Telos (not really that necessary) it shouldn't be that hard to beat her. Just keep in mind that there is a few rules that you must follow, the more common ones are, no Armageddon on 1st turn and no Omnipotent Orb as your equipped item otherwise she will just Megidolaon you and you'll die in 1 hit. Two mandatory things that you must own are at least 1 Armageddon and at least around 10 Infinity otherwise you just cannot defeat her. Anyway thank you again, if there is something that you didn't understand let me know, I'll try to re-explain myself maybe a bit better, or if you have any other questions I'll be glad to help you! Good luck! ^^

[@thomastsohonis1218]

@@Serelicia thank you. I'm planning on beating her in the run I'm in now, so I don't think I could use with the final Orpheus. I do have the other important personas though

[@thomastsohonis1218]

@@Serelicia so, all I need to do is fuse in till there's a heart . Right now, I'm just trying to get Lucifer with it cause I assume that's how I get his sword. Made it so I can just repeat fuse him

[@Serelicia]

Yeah unfortunately it's RNG, but at least it's not that rare to get a Persona with a Heart. I'm not really sure but I think the percentage was around 40% but I might be incorrect on that. Anyway for the Lucifer's Blade you don't have to get Lucifer with the Heart as he doesn't even have a Heart Item, you need to go to the Shinshoudo Antiques and fuse Lucifer with any Nihil Weapon. ( megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Heart_Item, here is the list of all the Heart Item in the game )

[@pahaueno]

Very Hard in Persona 3 Fes

[@mystraven7770]

Bro how'd you even do this I keep getting randomly critted by theo

[@renee5156]

Use armor

[@Serelicia]

With this setup that I had it took me many attempts because I was purely only relying on RNG, but if you can get the "right" setup to fight Elizabeth, she's not that Hard to defeat. The most "mandatory" Item that you probably wanna have other than Armageddon and Infinity (and more) of course, is probably the Divine Pillar.

[@Makoto_Akechi]

I thought we're not allowed to use Personas that reflect, absorb, or nullifies attacks?

[@Serelicia]

Just as long as it doesn't affect her turn.

[@Makoto_Akechi]

@@Serelicia thanks for the tip! I'm now trying to max all social links so I can try get the items I need for the fight.

[@Serelicia]

@@Makoto_Akechi Glad I could help, good luck! ^^

[@Makoto_Akechi]

@@Serelicia I didn't get to max all social links, but managed to get Unshaken Will and Divine Pillar. It took me a few tries to defeat Elizabeth. I just used Messiah and Anubis for her. Also stocked some "Best Friends" (it's like using Heat Riser). Your advice truly helped!

[@harmoniousharmonmaster2415]

How did you inherit Niflheim onto messiah?

[@lanangngurah3547]

Use skadi

[@justinmoreno390]

@@lanangngurah3547 But skadi gives you another skill card no niflheim

[@suou3580]

@@justinmoreno390 down fuse Skadi to give its Niheim to Loa so you can fuse Thanatos. Then fuse Messiah *Niflheim: Skadi + Helel = Yurlungur Yurlungur + Eligor = Pazuzu Pazuzu + Yomotsu Shikome = Loa (with Niflheim) Thanatos: Ghoul + Pale Rider + Loa + Samael + Mot + Alice = Thanatos(with Niflheim)

[@justinmoreno390]

@@suou3580 👍

[@0red896]

Where floor that have many ruby and malachite? For me it's so hard to make armagedon spell :') And I always not have enough time for max social link (male). So did you have some device? Sorry for my bad english ×D

[@Serelicia]

The "quickest" way to "farm" Armageddon is to do the Vision Quest of the Hanged Man, but you need to let some Maya self destruct before killing the boss otherwise there is a chance that you won't drop it after finishing the battle. Whenever it will drop you will get x10 of them. (I'm not 100% sure about the Maya thing, but I would still try to do it when doing the battle as it's not that hard to do). Also you can only use this method only once per save file, so in case you wanna do a NG+ maybe it's better to wait and get to the end game on that save file. (Also This is only for Persona 3 Portable, I'm not sure if you can do this also in Persona 3 and Persona 3 FES.) - About the Social Links, I'm sorry but I don't have any tips as I never finished all the Social Link as the Male Main Character. I appreciate your comment, thank you! ^^ If you have any other questions, I'll be glad to help!

[@0red896]

Thx for your information, and i'm play persona 3 portable. I will try to play persona 3 FES because in there add one arc have name "The Answer" and this arc not avaiablle on Persona 3 Portable

[@Serelicia]

@@0red896 I'm glad I could help ^^ Unfortunately yes, if you wanna play "The Anwser" Persona 3 FES is the only way to go at this time of me typing the comment. I say unfortunately because in case you didn't know you cannot control the AI of your party, which I personally find a bit too annoying, so that's why I only played Portable so far out of the 3 options available. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I heard there is a mod that you can Download so that you're actually able to control the AI on FES, if you don't mind playing the game on a Emulator that is. Anyway thank you again for your comment and good luck! ^^

[@0red896]

Oo ok thx for your information :)

[@Datdogg122]

Yoyoyo

[@yacinekunplays5876]

how hard is maniac mode guys? bcz my friend kept warning me from it

[@Serelicia]

Thanks for your comment! Anyway there is a few changes in Maniac difficulty but the most "important" ones are that enemies do x2 more damage and there is a higher chance that the enemies can get an advantage when not taken by surprise (Engaging them from behind).

[@Makoto_Akechi]

The enemies in Tartarus are harder to defeat. I'm already playing in Maniac Mode, and to tell you, you need a good strategy to defeat the enemies or else you'll die.

[@JoaquinWren]

"Ex"lizabeth

[@Nello_angelo]

She hits me with 9999 megodien and insta kills me Wtf I suppose to do

[@Serelicia]

Hey, it's been a while since I originally uploaded this video so I'm a bit surprised that people still watch it and leave a comment, I appreciate it thank you! Anyway if you'll go through the comments you'll find some tips that may be useful on how to execute this fight properly, otherwise you can check this old guide for the FES version. ( gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/937269-shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-fes/faqs/61052 ) If you're playing Portable it's still useful but some mechanics are entirely removed in the Portable version such as the ability to change the main character weapons and more, so you can skip those steps but it's still a decent guide for overall getting an understanding of the fight. But in case if you still need help I'll try to remember as much as I can and try to help!

[@Nello_angelo]

@@Serelicia tnx

[@gferrol118]

Same. I even tried turning on the ability to revive after dying, but it ends in an infinite 9999 damage loop

[@quatrowr1280]

​@@gferrol118 that's because you null/repel/absorb some damage type or simply didn't do enough damage per turns

[@omaruto9254]

wich song is that?

[@Maverick-65]

Unavoidable battle.

[@Andresitum]

I found out that you can beat Elizabeth in almost 2 cycles with all 4 party members even she has Diarahan

[@karmalrex1304]

Wait WHAT?! You CAN bring Party members into the fight? O.o now....I'm kind of confused.

[@akenohononiku916]

​@@karmalrex1304You can It's just that she'll murder you without hesitation on her turn if you do bring party members

[@maliook727]

@@karmalrex1304infinity fusion spell