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[@JessesAuditorium]

Correction when I said Atlus makes really good fighting games, I meant Arc Systems :D I always confuse those two for some reason >_>

[@JessesAuditorium]

Correction #2, apparently Arc Systems developed it lolll.

[@geloXIII]

Well they both start with the letter A, and they both make anime oriented games.

[@HayatoEvoker]

funny you compare Adachi's theme to two tv genres, that of spy shows and game shows, cause Persona 4's entire aesthetic theme is tv's, and how from that perspective we're always on the outside looking in, seeing what people want us to see And to not spoil anything I'll keep this brief, but Adachi is a very important character in P4, he's a detective (spy shows) and his arcana is that of the Jester (entertainment, game shows), so that's exactly the vibe of the character + the piano motif heard in this song harkens back to the mystery him and his detective partner are investigating, to add suspense, a little drop of horror/drama shows in there as well

[@chroipahtz]

P4 Arena had a pretty significant amount of story in it and featured the same cast from Persona 4, so Persona players were still pretty into it. The casts of these games are a big part of the appeal, so seeing another story with them goes a long way, even if it's a genre RPG players normally wouldn't touch. Each Persona 4 spinoff is basically just the Persona 4 cast taking on a new adventure, so they each have their own stories while relying on the world and characters from Persona 4.

[@HollowGolem]

P4 Dancing was the only one of the Dancing games that had any reason for existing, for example. Also, P3 characters in Arena/Ultimax was awesome. It's rare we get to see the grown-up former protags showing up in another adventure.

[@pketr5]

P4 does have the most crossovers because P5 hasn't been released yet when the crossovers start happening. P3,P4, and P5 do happen chronologically. P3 P3 FES (Enhanced version, has The Answer) P3Portable (originally for the PSP, notable that you can select a female character as your main character, released after original P4) P3 Dancing in Moonlight (released WAY *after the P4 dancing game) P3 Reload (Remake, released this year, has The Answer as DLC) P4 P4 Golden (Enhanced version) P4 Arena (after P4 and P4 golden, Fighting Game version, crossover from P3) P4 Ultimax (Sequel to P4 arena) PQ Shadow of the Labyrinth (Etrian Odyssey style dungeon crawler, crossover with P3, suspiciously released after P4 Ultimax thus creating lore implications) P4 Dancing All Night (1st Dancing Game, has an actual story) P5 P5 Dancing in Starlight (released along P3 Dancing in Moonlight) PQ2 New Cinema Labyrinth (Same style as PQ, crossover with P3 AND P4, but you unlock those characters later) P5 Royal (enhanced version) P5 Strikers (Set after P5, an Action RPG) P5 Tactica (also set after P5, Tactical RPG) P5: the Phantom X (new cast, continuity is a shrug emoji, P5 style Mobile Gacha game, still in Beta and trapped in China and parts of South East Asia, meaning not Japan)

[@JessesAuditorium]

sheesh

[@muthesquirrel]

@@JessesAuditorium While Persona is a spin-off of Shin Megami Tensei (With P1 being directly connected to Shin Megami Tensei if...) it has somewhat surpassed it and become Atlus's flagship series. As such they use spin-offs as a testing stage for various game styles to see what sticks. A bit like how FF7 has a number of odd spin-offs.

[@SuperLegendOf364]

I appreciate you pointing out that unlike the others, P4 Dancing has an actual, canon(?) story. And a good one at that.

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

The best way I could describe Adachi is: "What years of doing uneventful 9 to 5 jobs in the boonies does to someone."

[@junkyardsoul3757]

I would describe him as "We're not all gonna make it, bros."

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

@@junkyardsoul3757 "Those who actually succeed in life... They just happen to be born with the magic ticket called "talent." If you don't have it, you can either accept or deny that fact until you die." - Tohru Adachi

[@LewdBoi]

@@sharzinlalebazri5673 Ten years in the boonies made you clown!

[@SuperLegendOf364]

Oh god. Not the Adachi thumbnail!

[@MoongladePanda]

In Japan Persona 4 Arena was known as Persona 4: The Ultimate In Mayonaka arena. The sequel Persona 4 Arena Ultimax was known in japan as Persona 4: The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold.

[@Tarrot]

For reference: Persona 3 was released in 2006. Persona 4 was released in 2008. Persona 5 was released in 2016. Persona 6 still has not been announced but most people think they're not going to announce it until its ready. Effectively, because it takes so much time to develop the Persona games nowadays with all the features and storyline and such, and because Atlus realizes they have a dedicated fanbase, they decided to Kingdom Hearts the motherfucker (3 main games, 7 side-games, and numerous re-releases over a roughly 18 year period for KH, and most of that stuff actually matters unlike the Persona spin-offs) and outsource side-games to cast a wide net. Usually these are developed by other publishers while using the Persona licensing to make money off it. And honestly, for licensed games, most of them are received positively. It keeps the series alive by having something new every year or two years rather than waiting a decade between games.

[@Yammatti]

He should hear Princess Amagi - yukiko amagi's theme bc he wont believe it is a fighting game theme lmao

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

Also best theme in the game. ❤

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

"The Ultimate" borrows a leitmotif from "Reach Out To The Truth," and a few other songs do a similar thing, but otherwise all of the music in Arena/Ultimax are original to itself. As for Adachi, fun fact - his Arcana in P4G is "The Jester," which is adjacent to Yu Narukami (the Main Character)'s arcana "The Fool" - both are known as Zero cards and thus represent the start of a journey. He's very laid-back and often talks too much, oftimes putting his foot in his mouth, but this attitude belies his natural intelligence and cunning (all of which fit the image of The Jester quite well, I'm sure you can imagine).

[@nachot6592]

Atlus is known to milk the Persona IP to death with games from ALL genres. Musos (dynasty warrios-like), strategy, fighting, dungeon crawler, rhythm, and whatever comes next for P6. Arena and Arena Ultimax ended up being incredibly good, so I'm hoping for a new persona arena game in the future as I like both genres.

[@VainerCactus0]

Comic releaf more like! (It's a Cabbage joke, only P4 players know whats up.) Speaking of Cabbage, I harvested the first home grown Cabbage I have grown. It tased great, it's absolutely true that home grown stuff tastes better.

[@Mario10095]

Persona 4 Arena is a sequel to Persona 4/Persona 4 Golden' story that takes place a few months after the rpg story. Persona 4 arena Ultimax was a sequel/update of Persona 4 Arena that concluded the arena story. The Ultimate is basically the game's theme and plays during certain events in the story. Some songs are mixes and others are original oragnments Persona 4 has Base Persona 4 (ps2) the the updated Persona 4 Golden (PS Vita later released on all modern platforms) persona 4 Arena, Arena ultimax P4 Dancing all night (also a sequel story that takes place after the Arena story, Persona Q (a cross over between P4 and P5 involving time travel shenanigans) and then later PQ2 (a cross over between P3,P4, and P5) P4 Arena being a fighting was a surprise. Atlus said that they wanted to expand the Persona IP by putting the characters in different genres, such as fighting games, rhythm games, etc. This practice continues now with Persona 5, having an action/muso/ Dynasty warriors like action rpg game (P5 Strikers) a strategy game (P5 Tactica) also a rhythm game (P5 Dancing) ect.

[@Raddkann]

Persona spelled wrong back to back that’s impressive 😭

[@Mario10095]

@Raddkann it was auto correct 😭 and i was rushing to type that during my lunch

[@Raddkann]

@@Mario10095 it’s alright lol

[@Andrevot]

So basically, Every numbered Persona have his own protagonists/story and most of Persona games have a Dancing game (Persona 3-4-5) that's like a rythm game, and a version with more content than the original release (examples Persona 4 Golden, 5 royal etc). Persona 4 Arena is the fighting game, Persona Q and Q2 are Dungeon Crawlers crossover with persona 3-4-5 characters, Persona Strikers/Scramble is a Musou game sequel to Persona 5, and Persona Tactica is a tactical RPG xD . Long story short: The brand have a lot of games with different gameplay

[@hamzahax]

Man I Love Persona

[@andrewwilliams8951]

Cabbages. This will eventually make sense.

[@emil783]

Good Stuff! (Smiling Adachi portrait)

[@julien827]

great vegetables!

[@kowalski1458]

"Shut up, Adachi"

[@Mattt417]

TRUE

[@orangejuice3235]

Great vegetables.

[@trevorBbracket]

call me minazuki sho the way my name is sho minazuki

[@RealityMasterRogue]

the red-blue shift is chromatic abberation

[@Kurlija]

I think ArcSys accounted for JRPG fans by including an auto-combo option, where you could mash a single button to perform some basic combos. I'm not a fighting game guy, but I got into P4A for the story and characters.

[@deathyhoto]

So Persona 4 Arena is a fighting, and like the normal Persona games, it got a rerelease, or I guess sequel called P4 Arena Ultimax. Adachi only became a playable character until Ultimax came out.

[@AJTDaWin]

Adachi my beloved 😇

[@kradhunter00]

The text in the background in that A Fool or a Clown? video says something akin to "In other words, you guys are losers too. Losers." BTW, you can't really talk about Adachi without spoiling Persona 4 so you don't want HEAVY SPOILERS then skip this next part: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . During the events of Persona 4, Tohru Adachi is one of two detectives that's trying to solve the murders that kick off the events of the game. He tends to goof around and is usually seen slacking off and not taking his job seriously. In reality that goofy attitude is just a facade as he's a loner, a man disillusioned with his life and with the world, he's also the main antagonist and instigator behind the murders and he actually has the same power as the protagonist. After the party defeats him he gets arrested, agreeing to face his punishment because "that is how things work in the real world". He doesn't appear in Persona 4 Arena. In Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, he's seen helping the main antagonist of the game (Sho Minazuki) having escaped from prison with the help of the latter. In actuality he was just pretending to help while disrupting Sho's plans, helping the protagonists in the process. After the events of the game he returns willingly to prison and is last seen awaiting trial.

[@TraceyMailin]

As you mentioned, this game has a LOT of spin-offs and variations, so I'll run through a comprehensive list of all the ones that got localized for English audiences: -Persona 1: Persona 1 only has one version that came out on the PS1 (Revelations: Persona) and got remade for the PSP (Shin Megami Tensei: Persona) -Persona 2: P2 is a duology of games, with Innocent Sin being the first game and Eternal Punishment being the sequel (Both originally released on the PS1 and got remade for the PSP) -Persona 3: The game simply called Persona 3 isn't really all that talked about because the "definitive editions" are vastly more popular, with those being FES (Which added an epilogue called The Answer) and Portable (Which added a female protagonist route, changing the OST and story for a good chunk of the game) -Persona 3 The Movie: There's actually 4 movies, but all of them feature new songs and even the first instance of Lotus Juice singing proper in the song "Fate Is In Our Hands" -Persona 3 Dancing in Moonlight: The dancing game for P3, simply a spin-off that happens in the characters' dreams and happens at the exact same time as P5D because screw timeline continuities, they're both also sequels to P4D -Persona 3 Reload: The world-renowned P3 Remake, OST's amazing, as you've already heard -Persona Trinity Soul: This is an anime original that wanted to be the sequel to P3, pretty much getting its canonicity revoked by the time P4 released. The OST is known to be remarkably mediocre -Persona 4: Originally released on the PS2 and got a definitive edition for the PSVita called Golden, which added a new character and a new storyline to serve as a third semester, it also comes with a bunch of new songs -Persona 4 The Animation: Anime adaptation of Persona 4 (And surprisingly very good!), it has a bunch of new tracks and also a spin-off anime for Golden (And surprisingly very bad!) -Persona 4 Arena: The storyline is a sequel to the events of vanilla P4 (There's no reference to content added in Golden), it's a fighting game and you reacted to it literally in this video -Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: The storyline is a direct sequel to P4 Arena, this one however does feature content from Golden -Persona 4 Dancing All Night: The storyline here is a sequel to Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, but it's just a rhythm game with good remixes -Persona Q: This is a spin-off that features characters from P3 and P4, timeline's complicated but they pretty much get pulled from different points in time, otherwise the P4 cast wouldn't know one another (Very underrated soundtrack also!) -Persona Q2: Same as above but sprinkle in the P5 cast -Persona 5: The most popular Persona game by a landslide, released on the PS3 and got a definitive edition in Royal for the PS4 -Persona 5 The Animation: An anime adaptation of P5, the animation's abhorrent but the music's great! -Persona 5 Strikers: A game with a storyline that serves as a sequel to vanilla P5, it's also pretty good music wise! -Persona 5 Dancing in Starlight: Rhythm game that happens at the same time as P3D, it's complicated -Persona 5 Tactica: An XCOM-like tactics game, if I'm being honest I don't know a whole lot about it, but I'm fairly certain it's just a spin-off that's supposed to happen in the middle of the original's story (Like the dancing games and PQs) There's a lot more things in the franchise, but they either not have music (Are novels/manga), or aren't that noteworthy/known on their own, if you'd like a full full list, here's a link: megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Persona_(Series)

[@Raddkann]

17:49 My JoJo brain activated here

[@mirrorslul]

ADACHI *vine boom sfx*

[@Raddkann]

Yes there’s a Persona 4 story game. Persona 4 came out for the PS2 in 2008 and then it got a re-release with extra content and other Quality of Life updates called Persona 4 Golden on the PSVita in 2012. Persona 4 has a bunch of spinoffs like the Dancing game and this Fighting game. Persona 4 Arena (AKA Persona 4 The Ultimate in Japan) released the same year as Golden. The next year, in 2013, the updated version with more content and characters, called Persona 4 Arena Ultimax (AKA Persona 4 The Ultimax) released for Arcades and then came out for Consoles in 2014, similar to what happened with the main game. Arena and Ultimax are meant to be a sequel/spinoff to BOTH Persona 3 and Persona 4. It has characters from both games.

[@andrecalderon2267]

My favorite music of persona arena ultimax is opening song, "Break out of"

[@donthaveonern]

would love something from Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance! For example the Qadištu battle theme or something. They really put their souls into the new tracks.

[@Raddkann]

Persona has a shit ton of spinoffs, which pretty much only started with P4

[@N_X_TV]

Persona 4 Arena is a FIghting game and sequel to PErsona 4 starring characters from Persona 3. Persona 4 Arena Ultimax is its sequel, that effectively replaced Arena, as it has an "Arena" DLC for like 5$ that adds the first game's story in the new game. Then, for the other spinoff games: - Persona 1 had none (I think) besides PSP ports, like 2 had - Neither did Persona 2, except for the fact that there is Persona 2 Innocent Sin, and its sequel Persona 2 Eternal Punishment, so basically Persona 2-2. - Then Persona 3 is the beginning of the modern formula, and that's when the series became popular. it has Persona 3, Persona 3 FES (a version with more content and an epilogue à la Future Connected), both on PS2, a Persona 3 Portable for PSP where you can choose a Female protagonist with a slightly different story and music), Persona 3 Dancing in Moonlight (A Dancing Game that released the same day as Persona 5 Dancing in Starlight), and recently the Remake Persona 3 Reload, but the characters of 3 also appear on Arena and Q. - Persona 4 had Persona 4, Persona 4 Golden (version with more content and new ending), Persona 4 Arena, Arena Ultimax, and Persona 4 Dancing All Night (that released before the other two) but that's basically it. There were crossover games at the time, so you can count Persona Q (starring the casts of 3 and 4) as a P4 Game, and Q2 too, but it also has the cast of 5. - P5 has the most "unique" spinoffs: Persona 5, Persona 5 Royal (enhanced edition as usual), P5 Dancing in Starlight, you can count Q2, but also had Persona 5 Strikers (or in Japanese P5 Scramble: Phantom Strikers, a musou sequel), Persona 5 Tactica (an X-Com-like game), and Persona 5 The Phantom X (a chinese mobile gacha game that has an entirely new cast, not released in the west yet). The main character of 5 was supposed to be in Ultimax, but was not implemented, probably because Persona 5 got delayed multiple times, idk. He's in smash, though. And there were rumors of a cancelled Persona party game, kinda like a mario party, so that would be another spinoff for Persona as a whole. A series that is, itself, one of th many spinoffs of Shin Menagmi Tensei, itself a reboot of Megami Tensei, itself an adaptation of a novel.

[@muthesquirrel]

The cross over between RPG and fighting game fans is actually pretty high, oddly. If anything the dancing games are the oddest duck.

[@SonicMegaKing]

It isn't, really. Most RPG players don't have the finesse to play fighting games, and many FG players aren't into RPGs because that's not their type of game.

[@muthesquirrel]

@@SonicMegaKing I dunno where you get that from. Are you under the impression RPG players ONLY play RPGS? Of course not. While there are sports game, mobile game, or FPS game players that ONLY play that kind of game it's because those are are more common for casual gamers. RPG players are rarely casual, so they tend to play more than JUST RPGs.Why do you think heavy action based RPGs like Kingdom Hearts exist? Or the more skill-based Souls games? Also playing most fighting games don't require much skill if you're just playing for fun.

[@vlone4679]

ADACHI

[@Xxblade17]

Yuhh

[@FaisLittleWhiteRaven]

Persona games are ALL about the story so yes. P4 has a story~ XD Specifically Persona 1 and 2 are much closer to the Shin Megami Tensei mainline series Persona was originally a spinoff of (basically Shin Megami Tensei games tend to be post apocalyptic urban fantasy stuff where every folklore is real and generally at each others throats where the player has to choose a faction to shape what little future the world may have left, while Persona games tend to be urban fantasy where an apocalypse MAY happen but the main characters have a chance to prevent it)... And that's most of what I know about them since I alas haven't played them yet - I hear the P2 duology is very good though. Persona 3 was the start of the 'modern' Persona game style and basically is a 50/50 split between JRPG and visual novel like 'dating sim' (actual dating *usually* optional), while P3's plot was something of a cosmic horror/slice of life mix: Every night at midnight there is an extra hour most can't experience where most everyone turns to coffins, water turns to blood and monsters call Shadows roam the streets and inflict something akin to mind death/super depression on those they manage to catch 'awake'. Protag is one of the few awake during that 'Dark Hour' and works with a group calling themselves the SEES to try to put a stop to the shadows. General themes are 'Life, Death, Despair and Hope'. Also has by far the most remakes (P3 FES, P3 portable, P3 Reload), with P3 Dancing all Moon Night as a mostly plotless spinoff bit of fanservice. Persona 4 has the same gameplay (50/50 JRPG dungeon grind and 'dating' sim) but the plot is supernatural murder mystery' with a lot of focus on the main cast's internal issues and well, the struggles of day to day life in a small rural town where business is drying up, people can be both kind and petty, and media/the news can be hella toxic. General themes are 'Truth, Lies and Self Acceptance'. Only has one remake (Persona 4 Golden) at the time of this comment, so every other 'P4 (insert word here)' is a sequel: *P4 Arena* being a fighting game which takes place during the start of golden week (a string Japanese holidays that lasts a week total) of the year after P4's events, where P4 cast are dragged into a 'fighting tournament' against their wills and end up meeting some of the P3 cast who were also dragged in (also this is the first time they're officially meeting any of the P3 cast outside of weird time travel events none of them are allowed to remember aka the Persona Q games). *P4 Arena Ultimax* is a direct sequel to Arena that takes place the very next day and basically resolves all the remaining mysteries P4 Arena brought up, and moves away from 'each character going through a small amount of personal growth' to the much more Persona standard of 'teens need to kill god with friendship'. And *P4 Dancing All Night* takes place during the following summer holidays and the plot is basically 'I swear these poor kids can't have a single get together without something WEIRD happening. Also wow the idol industry sucks and this time the god causing problems can ban hammer violence but not the power of dance'~ XD Persona 5 is same gameplay again but with some stealth/action stuff added (mostly for vibes). Plot is kinda noir themed with a lot of emphasis on the injustices those in authority can get away with against the 'powerless' (for context, literally the first major boss is a former Olympian Gym Teacher who physically and sexually abuses his students) with the main cast using supernatural means to get revenge/strike down the corruption around them, upsetting a lot of very dangerous people in the process... General themes are 'Revenge, Corruption and Justice'. It's sole remake is Persona 5 Royal, and it's spinoffs are: *P5 Strikers* (also known as P5 Scramble) is a action/muso/ Dynasty warriors like action rpg game set during the summer holidays after P5 where the Phantom Thieves end up going on a road trip both for fun and to put a stop to those using their methods to brainwashing people on mass. *P5 Tactica* is a grid based strategy RPG set in during... January? Feb? the year after P5 (P5 Royal actually has gameplay during that time so there's some confusion exactly when/how this all occurs) where the Phantom Thieves end up sucked into another world controlled by a ruthless dictator and quickly join the rebellion (also despite the timey whimey nature of this plot they actually canonly get to remember it which is nice

[@Raddkann]

Persona fans in particular seem to not like the Arena games (because it’s too hard for them lol)

[@c-love6753]

Adachi is the most charismatic antagonist Persona series has to offer. I would go as far as saying that he is one of the best in videogames in general

[@marche800]

You saying that is a spoiler

[@c-love6753]

@@marche800 Jesse said he aint gonna play persona

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

​@@c-love6753What about literally everyone else?

[@drkspnova]

@@ShadowOfMassDestructioni feel like if you're scrolling through the comments of a persona ost reaction you'd be ready for spoilers