Persona 5 Palaces Ranked BEST to WORST

[@personacheese]

What did you think of my list? 😅

[@mrjollyguy25]

Maruki's being #1 is correct. Pls make it worst to best next time tho 😭

[@orvaldurgumundson1809]

i liked your list tho i didnt agree with them except for number 1 but here are my rankings. 9.Kaneshiro 8.Futaba 7.Madarame 6.Mementos 5.Okumura 4.Sae 3.SHITo 2KamoSHITa 1.DR Maruki

[@personacheese]

hahaha I'll keep this in mind, thanks brother 😘

[@personacheese]

Fantastic list! I'm really glad you got to enjoy Kamoshida's palace more than I did :)

[@Ballsinyaface_89]

Terrible

[@thebatman8957]

Persona 5 Royal is easily one of my favorite games of all time. The characters, the world, the music it's all so amazing.

[@personacheese]

Preach brother 🙏 - spot on here! The fact that we're all here discussing our favourite palaces further cements this hahaha 😄

[@fwybfaiz]

For me persona 4 golden was the better game

[@Fusible_1]

​​@@fwybfaizWhy do i see you everywhere? It's like we have the same taste for the most part.

[@kingcrimson2615]

@@Fusible_1different account different person

[@senarmstrongfanaccount]

1 (maruki): fully agree i love this palace so much and maruki is one of my favourite antagonists in gaming 2 (mementos depths): wouldn't put this that high but i do think this palace is VERY underrated, has a great feel and tone and is one of my favourite parts of the game storywise due to how high the stakes are and the big reveal there (and also satanael), has some of the best moments in the game for me 3 (sae): would put this at 2, this palace is definitely one of the best, whims of fate is one of the best songs in the ost and the palace has fun minigames and has a great design in general. the buildup and aftermath of it make it one of the best storywise as well 4 (shido): not sure where i'd put it as it can get drawn out but i do think this palace is very good. the setting with a giant cruiser with the elite and nobility sailing through a ruined tokyo is very cool and i like how it shows the extent of shido's plans and the mental shutdowns. the akechi fight is really good as well and rivers in the desert is amazing 5 (futaba): this is definitely one of my favourite palaces due to the techno-egyptian theme in it and the design of the palace in general. underrated palace imo and the song is great. boss is nothing special but i loved futaba's awakening 6 (kaneshiro): would personally put this lower. not that this palace is bad but i like the other ones a lot more than it. the main things i dislike about it was that kaneshiro and the mafia were underutilised and palace design isn't too good compared to the others, however i love the music, makoto, and i still like the palace in general 7 (kamoshida): i've always felt that kamoshida's palace is quite overrated bc it's basically a big tutorial and it's design is simple compared to the others however it's great in terms of story and kamoshida is a great villain 8 (okumura): okumura's palace is imo a bit underrated as i think the themes of worker exploitation were done well in this palace, however i don't like the airlock puzzle and story surrounding it and the boss is a big difficulty spike, personally this palace would be last for me with kaneshiro narrowly in front 9 (madarame): disagree with this placement personally, i love the design of this palace and some of the minigames. the story isn't too good but i like the palace design and think the boss is very good my personal ranking: 1: maruki 2: sae 3: futaba 4: mementos depths 5: shido 6: kamoshida 7: madarame 8: kaneshiro 9: okumura

[@personacheese]

Thank you so much for responding with your list :) Loved whims of fate! I can see where you're coming from with Kaneshiro, I think you're right to say that the mafia were entirely underutilised which felt a bit odd - if they put more time into the enemies and palace design, his palace could have been top 3. Completely agree with you on the Okumura airlock puzzle, as does most of the Persona 5 community 😂 As for Madarame's palace, it's certainly one of my more controversial takes. I can absolutely see why people enjoyed the palace but for me it just got a bit stale. Overall I really like your personal power rankings, it's really great seeing Futaba's palace get more praise - loved her character ark! 😄

[@AI-300]

I LOVE futabas palace but i cant really explain why

[@calijack2006]

Honestly, the whole thing about Okumuras being difficult never really hit me. I think the problem is is that a lot of people have a hard time paying attention to weaknesses and taking advantage of technical strikes also applying buffs at that point you should really know what you’re doing. It’s not really a difficulty spike more than it is just a knowledge check at that point you should already have really good personas and also be heavily taking advantage of the fusion system, especially during alarms

[@anibalhyrulesantihero7021]

I actually like Okumura's Palace when it comes to its aesthetics and music. It feels like a sci-fi movie but when it comes to gameplay, I'm on the same boat. The boss fight and the puzzle in the end of the Palace were frustrating.

[@crow1460]

My ranking: 9| Spaceport of Greed 8| Depths of Mementos 7| Bank of Gluttony 6| Cruiser of Pride 5| Pyramid of Wrath 4| Museum of Vanity 3| Castle of Lust 2| Casino of Envy 1| Laboratory of Sorrow

[@personacheese]

Fantastic list! Glad you enjoyed Kamoshida's palace 😄

[@ArtistHunter62]

"Y-YOUR THE TRASH OF SOCIE-" "H-how could.... This happen to me?"

[@combustible8464]

My list 1. Maruki My only problem was with the color part at the end, since it took me forever the first time. 2. Futaba The music and great puzzles carry this palace up to 2nd place. I will say the boss fight is trivially easy but I think that doesn’t bring it down enough. 3. Mementos Depths The puzzles and feel of the mementos depths were amazing. I absolutely loved walking through this place the first time I beat the game. The real world part was great as well, I just didn’t like the lead up path to the yaldabaoth fight. 4. Sae’s Palace This palace has without a doubt the best design and music in the whole game. When playing through it, it feels so realistic and it’s great to see how the palace was pulled off. Loved this one, and the boss fight did get trashed in Royal, but that’s not too bad. 5. Shido I really liked the grand feel and aesthetic of Shido’s palace. The giant ark part was a good touch, and the music was the reason the mouse parts weren’t absolutely terrible. But the mouse stuff was pretty long and tedious, so we can’t ignore that. Also the akechi fight was a really good part of the story, so big plus. 6. Madarame My absolute favorite part about this palace was the fact you actually feel like an organized team when stealing the treasure. A whole plan, and amazing execution, leading to a fairly tough boss battle (except when you bring ino picaro and ariadne but y’know.) 7 Kamoshida This palace has always consistently never gotten boring. The puzzles aren’t too bad, the boss fight got pretty good in Royal, and the music was pretty solid for the first palace. 8. Kaneshiro Maybe a hot take, but I just did not enjoy Kaneshiro’s palace. The lead up into actually infiltrating the palace took way too long, and the palace itself kinda gets boring with the environment. And the giant lock part? Absolute ass to play through again, but I will admit this palace had some good spots. The boss fight was pretty good. 9. Okumura No surprise that this is my least favorite palace. The factory part was the only good part in this palace, as the maze was the worst piece of gameplay in the entirety of P5 and P5R. Plus the fact Morgana has to throw a hissy fit and storm off to introduce this palace is a bit saddening. Overall the worst palace in the game. All my opinion.

[@AdacherTrueSelf]

Opinion, Okumura’s boss fight it’s underrated, mostly because just require you to think and not just spam random skills

[@ZSapphire_78]

You've earned a sub. I like how faced paced everything is while also being detailed enough. Keep up the great work!

[@whosplayingyou29]

Interested in your thoughts on the more obscure design choices within each palace. For example the choices and positions of certain enemies and how they reflect on the palace ruler

[@dangerdare4114]

If there’s one thing I learned after multiple playthroughs of vanilla and Royal is that the more you play the game, the more you hate Kamoshida’s palace

[@creepysmileything1706]

My personal list would be: 1: Futaba 2: Maruki 3: Sae 4: Kaneshiro 5: Mementos 6: Okumura 7: Shido 8: Kamoshida 9: Madarame Fight me

[@totallynotfiller9587]

I could honestly agree with the Maruki fight being too easy because at that point of the game you practically have everything in terms of Personas and Confidants.

[@thechadandthevirgin5823]

Honestly I think having to do it without joker would make it way harder

[@personacheese]

Yeah it's definitely a final boss dilemma, especially as it could be quite hard to solve

[@personacheese]

oof that would be quite hard hahaha 😅

[@catalyst539]

harder than yaldabaoth though

[@psychicmouse1051]

My ranking goes… 1. Maruki 2. Futaba 3. Niijima 4. Shido 5. Kamoshida 6. Madarame 7. Mementos Depths 8. Kaneshiro 9. Okumura

[@personacheese]

Very nice! I've really enjoyed seeing how universally loved Maruki's palace truly is in this community 😄

[@mattyb5284]

Pick number 9

[@PiscesPrincess327]

My ranking: 9. Okumura 8. Kaneshiro 7. Mementos Depths 6. Madarame 5. Shido 4. Kamoshida 3. Futaba 2. Sae 1. Maruki

[@personacheese]

Love this list! It's great to see so many people enjoying Futaba's palace - her character deserves it 😊

[@shun2232]

Honestly the game is so good that none of the palaces were bad to me, even Okumuras, even though his bossfight was a bit frustrating at first, here's my rankings 1: Futaba 2: Maruki 3: Mementos Depths 4: Sae 5: Shido 6: Kamoshida 7: Kaneshiro 8: Madarame 9: Okumura

[@animeindofunny9725]

My favorite Palace: 1. Maruki: love the themes, story, and the boss fight. The only thing i hate in this palace is the color puzzle. 2. Sae: This palace has the best theme on all Palace i ever played. I also love the story twist especially on interogation room. But, i don't like the boss fight because it's too easy(maybe it's because i'm playing on normal). 3. Futaba: one of my favorite story arc of all video game i ever played(alongside with Maruki). The Futaba Development after her palace is really fun too. 4. Shido: the Boss fight and the puzzle are really challenging. Love the theme too. But i dont like how Akechi ended in this Palace(at least the third semester make it better). 5. Kamoshida 6. Mementos 7. Madarame 8. Okumura

[@personacheese]

Yeah I've seen a few people now in polls mention that the colour puzzle isn't their preferred type of gameplay mechanic, which I understand. Like you said though, still has to be the best palace in P5. I can also totally see where you're coming from with Akechi's end in the palace, I personally enjoyed it but it definitely could have used some tweaks to make the story ark feel more nuanced :)

[@charalargenumber8327]

Grimekhala's purpose in Okumura's palace is to teach you the occasional usefulness of instakill abilities (hamaon for that fight specifically)

[@Cringelord06]

Bro done put my favorite palace dead last 💀

[@AE-eo9ut]

My list 9-)Okumura Annoying enemies and terrible puzzle that doesnt make any sense are main problems. And boss fight was just a pain. For me this is the only palace in this game i can say its bad. When it comes to music it was probably the worst music in the game. It made me turned off the music in this palace ngl. 8-)Depths It felt kinda unnecesary to me even if i liked that palace. Yaldy is not an interesting character and in persona standarts he is just cliche. And puzzles were way too easy. 7-)Madarame Both boss fight and puzzeles were great. My problem is our motivation for taking down madarame was way too low until the boss fight itself. I didnt even care about beating him until they reveal he is the reason behind yusukes mothere loss(which hapens right before the fight). 6-)Kaneshiro Both musics were top tier and again very good boss fight with interesting gimmicks. Problem of this palace is they didnt make any interesting design choices inside of bank. It look great from outside but too simple inside. Enemies were kinda annoying too. But i liked the overall content. 5-)Shido Most build uped palace in the game that has most epic calling card. When you first enter the palace it looks great from outside but again inside of it looks even worse than Kaneshiro's. When it comes to content defeting VIP s was okey but that rat puzzeles becomes way too annoying even if they seems interesting at first. Shido boss fight was complete disappointment. It was like a normal enemy who has WAY TOO MUCH health bar. It doesnt have any gimmicks and even if the fight itself is too easy it still takes alot of time because of healt bar. That 1v1 between joker and shido was cool though. Overall Akechi boss fight carried the palace for me since it was the 2nd best boss of the game. 4-)Futaba This palace gets you in both gameplay and emotions. Contents of the palace were really interesting(my favorite is 0-1 computer puzzle). Enemies were balanced and not annoying. For me there are 2 bad things about that palace One - that little area outside of piramit. This place was completly unnecesary and there is literally nothing interesting about it. Its just waste of time. Two - boss fight. That figth was too easy to take seriusly but still takes too much time because of some boring gimmicks. Overall great palace. 3-)Kamoshida Best tutorial i can expect from a persona. Story was interesting. Everything about castles visual design was outstanding. Content/puzzels were enjoyable. Enemies were good balanced for tutorial. Kamoshida feels threatening as a character and he has the 4th best boss fight in the game. My only problem with this palace is music. Its one of the most annoying musics in the game imo. 2-)Maruki Imo he is the best character in P5R. Both musics are great, boss fight is the best, contents are variable and creative(espacially that color puzzle can be my favorite content in the whole game). Enemies were hard as expected from final dungeon. BUT there are 2 things that put this dungeon at 2nd place instead of 1st. One - begining of the dungeon is way too long. Like come on u have to enter this palace 4 times to finally being able to explore it freely. On that times this palace felt like a simple coridor to me. Wish they made begining shorter. Two - One major story problem that i still cant find the answer. Why phantom thieves went against Maruki? I know what Maruki doing is wrong but this is exactly waht Thieves were doing since from begining of the game. They went to metaverse, forcefully erased evil from peoples heart and tried to make world better place without evil. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS WHAT MARUKI DOING. I would understand it if they would regret their previous choices but they didn't. No when they came to their senses and apologize to joker they were sorry for not understanding the reality being fake. They never regret about stealing peoples heart as Phantom Thieves but still they fought against Maruki who done nothing different than Thieves except for the scale of job of course. I wish they would talk about how wrong they were for changing peoples heart before going for Maruki. 1-)Sae Sae is a great character with understandable psychology. And since they built up this palace from begining it feels really important. When it comes to palace itself, well it has the best music and visual design in the game. They are perfect in every way. Enemies are perfectly balanced, content is interesting, they always tried something new with every floor etc...And Sae boss fight is my 3rd favorite fight in the game. It has great gimmicks, not too easy, not too hard, and most importantly not annoying(unlike Shido). Its not a unnecesaryly long fight so you can enjoy it without geting tired. Lastly this palace was the peak point of the story. Finally revealing everything that built up from the start with a good plot twist(PTs outsmarting Black Mask) was the best choice they could come up if you ask me. And this palace dont have any particular down side imo.

[@personacheese]

Love this list! I'm glad to read that you enjoyed the puzzles in Futaba's palace, it's an aspect that a lot of the community often criticises but I think that they add a bit of necessary flavour to break up the usual combat sections. I also completely agree with you on Kamoshida's palace being a FANTASTIC tutorial and entry to the game. While I didn't enjoy it as much as a palace, having an engaging opening to the game would really help new players get enthralled in the world which is something I can definitely appreciate 😄

[@AE-eo9ut]

@@personacheese Thanks for the reply. I am not really close to Persona community so i didn't know people don't like futaba puzzles. Subscribed btw👍

[@catalyst539]

What Maruki is doing is not changing hearts like the Phantom Thieves. He’s changing cognition. Changing someone’s heart is stealing their treasure from their palace. Maruki isn’t doing that. He’s eliminating their suffering by altering and warping their cognition and even memories to make them truly believe they never suffered. He’s doing it by spreading his influence across Mementos, the cognition of the masses given form. That’s how he made a new reality and even brought Okumura and Wakaba back to life. If you can’t fathom that, then you didn’t understand any of the dialogue said in the meeting with Lavenza before infiltrating the palace with the full team.

[@AE-eo9ut]

@@catalyst539 Wow really? Let me point out what you can't fathom then. PTs already changed people's cognition and that caused their surrender in Depths which is something worse then living in a fake happiness and guess what? Maruki ,as someone who forcefully change people's cognition just like PTs, was taking their evil desires and give them a world without their contest. So lets see, both sides are forcefully changing cognitions, both sides are putting other people into completely different situations, both sides thinks that they are just and both sides are delusional af. Its either You can't fathom something as simple as that or You think amount of wordplay about metaverse can justify PTs dense side. Did you forget Q&A section in Labratory? With the amount of parallels between Maruki and PTs, everyone should be able to realise what Maruki doing is the same sht as PTs except PTs and ,it seems, you. Why PTs didn't realise these parallels and remembered how what they did caused situation in Depths? Why they didn't realise forcefully changing cognitions never results good? Why they didn't realise the similarity with Q&A? You think Maruki changing past is enough difference for PTs to be blind enough to ignore all these similarities? PTs got rid off evil from individuals, Maruki did it from whole reality, simple as that. Tell me when PTs showed their regret for changing people's cognition since they did see how that ended with Depths.

[@catalyst539]

@@AE-eo9utIt seems you still don’t understand. MARUKI DIDN’T TAKE THEIR EVIL DESIRES AWAY, you ignoramus. What he did was ELIMINATE THEIR SUFFERING! He did it by warping their memories and cognition so that, to them, it never happened. Like with Sumire. She wanted to become Kasumi and he granted that wish, by warping her cognition so that 1: every time someone called her Sumire her cognition made her hear it as Kasumi, and 2: making her truly believe she is Kasumi. You will notice the her confidant can only go up to rank 5 before 3rd semester, because she isn’t Sumire before then. I know of the Exam Room. The correct answer to the 3rd question is D: By stealing evil hearts. That shows that Maruki doesn’t think what they’re doing is bad, but that it’s making them suffer. As he says in his boss fight: “I can’t deny that you’re all strong. But that’s exactly what’s making you suffer!” The Phantom Thieves are CHANGING/STEALING HEARTS, NOT CHANGING COGNITION, FOR YALDABAOTH’S SAKE GET IT RIGHT And why would they need to regret it? They’re reforming society. The only people who saw it as wrong were Shido and Yaldabaoth. Sure they’re sending people back to the Prison, but they didn’t know that until they got there. They didn’t regret their decision as letting evildoers (especially Shido) run rampant is way worse than making said evildoers willfully imprison themselves in Mementos. Yaldabaoth trained Joker as a trickster because he knew the people whose hearts were stolen would go back to the Prison. If you say Maruki is doing the same thing as them, HE GODDAMN ISN’T. In your reply to Persona Cheese, you state that you’re not close to the Persona 5 community. That’ll be why I’m having to explain to you your mistakes, as since you’re not with them, you don’t understand the lore. If you have any more rebuttals, don’t post them as I am done with having to explain to you what you don’t understand and your mistakes.

[@nether-mobiletopc4293]

Yayyy u are back

[@personacheese]

Thanks mate 😄

[@frewtlewps1152]

My ranking would be: 1. Laboratory of Sorrow - most profound story, Maruki is the best antagonist in game, it has my favorite aesthetic, and it has the best level design 2. Casino of Envy - most creative theme for a palace, and the game was building up this palace from the beginning 3. Castle of Lust - Kamoshida is the best pure villain in the game by far, and completing this palace is more rewarding due to resource management 4. Museum of Vanity - very creative level design, and an amazing aesthetic 5. Pyramid of Wrath - love the upward progression, and is the only party member palace 6. Bank of Gluttony - amazing music and a cool gimmick with memorizing codes 7. Depths of Mementos - cool concept, good puzzles, and my favorite music 8. Cruiser of Pride - this one is too long; Shido and Akechi as villains suck 9. Spaceport of Greed - weak villain, stupid boss, and a weird theme for a palace

[@hyperten5906]

maruki's palace is like 3 hours longer then shido's palace

[@patricksciortino3643]

Freedom and peace is my absolute favorite p5r song

[@patricksciortino3643]

But I’m also in 0.0001% of people who like price version 2 more than version 1

[@patricksciortino3643]

My rankings would have to be Worst Okumura Kamoshida Madarame Kaneshiro Futaba Sae Shido Mementos Maruki by a hair I rlly like mementos palace but yea the story of Maruki and the reveal of him being the ruler is just too good Best

[@peccator821]

I think my main issue with okumuras palace was the song, its fine on a quick listen but hearing that genre gets tiring on the ears after a bit and makes the experience not as a good

[@pearlydoodles457]

From my least favorite to favouite: 9: Prison of Sloth- Just really boring, the puzzles were repetitive, the visuals were boring, and all around, not too interesting. Yaldabaoth carries it. 8: Pyramid of Wrath- Story wise, this one is really good, but I've never been a fan of desert levels, mainly because of the aesthetic, and except for the cool little town at the beginning, the visuals don't change the whole way through the palace. 7: Castle of Lust- Story wise, also really good fun, however I feel that it just felt too long and I did get a little bored towards the end, however was a great introduction to the game. 6: Casino of Envy- Unpopular opinion alert! I feel like this palace is just too slow-paced, however, I love the atmosphere, Music and enemies are all great, and you get to use Robin Hood, so that's a plus. Unfortunatly, Its just too slow to be put higher. 5: Spaceport of Greed- I really like this one visually and thematically. I found it was the much-needed difficulty spike in the game, with the enemies getting much stronger in this palace. I like the airlock puzzle as well, it being my favouite in the game. 4: Laboratory of Sorrow- Amazing music, amazing story, amazing visuals and awesome battles. I love the idea of a positive palace and it is just so much fun to play through. I'm even to gentle madman as I'm typing this out. 3: Bank of Gluttony- Price is the best palace theme in the game. Either that or Whims of Fate. No matter, this palace has a really awesome looking aesthetic, with the giant lock at the end looking extra awesome. 2: Museum of Vanity: I disagree with Mr Cheese and I think this Palace is quite great, simply becuase of the vibe, the visuals and music come together to create a almost tranquil vibe, even though enemies try to kill you, I love the boss fight also. 1: Cruiser of Pride: An amazing faux finale to the game, with great visual, challenging enemies, awesome music that gets you pumped up and brilliant multiple boss fights, with Shido being my favorite boss in the game. All in all, an amazing palace.

[@personacheese]

This was a GREAT list! 😄 Sae's palace being so low was definitely a shock to the system at first hahaha, but I can definitely see where you're coming from - it's very slow paced; while some players may like this (myself included) I can also appreciate that for others, faster movement through palace sections keeps things much more fresh. Completely agree with you on price and whims of fate, love them both so much! Some of the BEST music I've ever had the pleasure of listening to 🔥🔥🔥

[@MylesPhantom]

My personal rankings: 1. Maruki 2. Sae 3. Futaba 4. Kamoshida 5. Depths of Mementos 6. Shido 7. Madarame 8. Kaneshiro 9. Okumura

[@personacheese]

Very nice list brother! :)

[@mbackea880]

My ranking in order 1) Sae's palace 2) Shido's 3) Kaneshiro's 4)Kamoshida's 5) Futaba's 6)Depths of Mementos 7)Maruki's( I just didn't like how long the palace was and how difficult the fights were😂 but the music for me was phenomenal and the way Maruki was included didn't seem last minute. The themes presented in his palace, his inclusion, and his philosophy on helping people actually felt pivotal and impactful.) 8)Madarame(Aesthetic and music were amazing but it felt forgettable to me🤷🏿‍♂️) 9)Okumura(Just dogshit. Aesthetically and musicwise. Boss fight was cheap and dragged out.)

[@roundninja]

This is all pretty reasonable except imo it's unfair to rank Kamoshida's so low. Since it was basically the tutorial palace and its boss was just a volleyball coach, it couldn't be as epic or interesting as some of the later ones, but I think considering these limitations it did as well as it possibly could have. I give it a lot of credit for that.

[@FonemAli]

nothing beats me in 2021 december playing persona 5 royal trying to get the best ending possible

[@thechadandthevirgin5823]

That mementos depths ranking is based af

[@personacheese]

It's certainly a spicy take that's for sure hahaha 😅

[@owenicewater9704]

I have a very differentiated ranking 1: Madarame 2: Futaba 3: Kamoshida 4: Shido 5: Sae 6: Okumura 7: Mementos Depth 8: Maruki 9: Kaneshiro

[@catalyst539]

“dude it’s called qliphoth world not real world” said “that guy” if anyone has any conflicting opinions with mine, inform me of them and i will attempt to break them down i’m gonna do 3 rankings: music short/long/gameplay story Music: 9: A Woman (both versions are bad, the song doesn’t even reflect vanity in any way) 8: Sweatshop (normal version is good but the other version drags it down way too much) 7: Freedom and Security (it’s good sure but the prison of regression/acedia doesn’t last long enough for you to really enjoy it) 6: The Days When My Mother Was There (great song but the other version drags it down imo) 5: King, Queen and Slave (good first dungeon theme, and the other version is actually good for once) 4: Whims of Fate (i would make this top 3 but the other 3 i have left are better, still a bop though.) 3: Ark (amazing. the electric guitar and piano carry the track and just.. fantastical track (also the theme that plays in the ship restaurant isn’t classed as another version so i’m not ranking it)) 2: Price (bop of all bops and the other version’s strings and electric guitar are great) 1: Gentle Madman (when you first hear this on 10/3 or 10/4 if you changed okumura’s heart on 10/3, you will love it. yes that’s just for kasumi’s awakening but idc. when you hear it again + out of kindness in 3rd semester.. just amazing.) Shortest to Longest/Gameplay: 9: Prison of Regression + Qliphoth World (speedrunners take 13 minutes to finish the prison, and the qliphoth world only seems long if you’re grinding for crystal skull, the treasure demon there, a 100% security reinforcement) 8: Spaceport of Greed (so much better and so much shorter in royal (except the goddamn boss fight and airlock puzzle) this palace went through a redemption arc. for the most part anyway because the boss fight and airlock puzzle still suck.) 7: Museum of Vanity (only one thing i can say for this one: GO GO MADARANGERS!) 6: Castle of Lust (perfect length. not too short, not too long either. though if you don’t use the beefcake book you need to replay the palace) 5: Bank of Gluttony (longer than the castle but still short enough to be enjoyable. (except the math near the end)) 4: Pyramid of Wrath (Only one word needed: B O R I N G) 3: Casino of Envy (people say it’s long but it’s not, and the way the coins are integrated as a currency is perfect) 2: Cruiser of Pride (“I hate mice. They’re annoying, they’re loud, and they get everywhere.” Boss fight got a massive improvement though. It’s no longer a Senator Armstrong ripoff.) 1: Laboratory of Sorrow (color puzzle aside, this palace is phenomenal. climbing up those stairs with “I Believe” playing in the background on the Day of Fates is something you cannot experience again. length, i’ve gotten used to actually how damn short this palace is. only reason why it’s not number 2 is because shido is annoying with his goddamn mice) Story: No need. You know Madarame is neinth, Kamoshida is 3rd, Maruki is 2nd, and Shido is 1st. So instead let’s do the calling cards: 9: Yaldabaoth’s here because he doesn’t get one lmao 8: Maruki (he doesn’t even read it lmao what were they on when doing this one) 7: Kamoshida (humble beginnings) 6: Futaba (at least she reads it but it’s not good imo) 5: Madarame (dude’s serious about taking it to court lmao what a fool) 4: Okumura (“take it to the police” my ass. he’s all talk) 3: Kaneshiro (“Read it. I said, read it!”) 2: Sae (“I found it in the mail” good acting makoto, 10/10) 1: Shido (best calling card in the series)

[@FlynnMegaTensei]

I'm still not done with the game yet but Sae Futaba Shido (Akechi fight carries it for me tbh) Kamoshida Madarame Kaneshiro Okumura (though I loved the boss fight personally)

[@personacheese]

Yessss! The Akechi fight was so much fun 👏👏👏 Glad you're enjoying the game mate 😄

[@SSGVegeta26]

My ranking would be: 1. Maruki 2. Sae 3. Shido 4. Futaba 5 mementos depths 6. Kaneshiro 7. Madarame 8. Okumura 9. kamoshida Yes kamoshidas is lower then okumuras only because I thought it was way more boring then okumuras.

[@personacheese]

That's an awesome list brother! I can see what you mean about Kamoshida's palace, it can be really 'meh' at times :)

[@crow1460]

Hard disagree. Kamoshida's palace has one of the best story arcs backing it up, an amazing boss fight and the palace design is exactly what it needed to be. It manages to teach you the game's mechanics whilst still be fun and exciting. Top 3 material for me.

[@SSGVegeta26]

@@crow1460 I do not agree I base my opinion on gameplay fun and having to do kamoshidas palace over and over again just makes me want to stop playing cause of how boring it is

[@catalyst539]

@@SSGVegeta26 You don’t take story or music into account? Re-evaluate your opinions then- you should.

[@SSGVegeta26]

@@catalyst539 I do that's why maruki is number one but gameplay always comes first you music and story can be a 10/10 but if the gameplay is a 5/10 why even bother playing it's not gonna be fun

[@Lemacing]

I would say 1. Maruki 2. Mementos 3. Futaba 4. Sae] 5. Madarame 6. Kaneshiro 7. Kamoshida 8. Okumura 9. Shido

[@ashexiv]

The list is exacly the same as mine, only for Okumura and Madarame, some puzzles and navegations mechanics of Okumura's are simply unplesant to me and all the visuals it's ok but but nothing exceptional (they remembers me Konoe's Jail from P5 Strikers but Konoe's is much better), Madarame's on the other hand have a strong felling of a Filler chapter, but the navegation and the puzzles is way more pleasant, and all the visuals are maybe a little bit tiring but is pretty good. But even with all this, they are in fact the two worst palaces in Persona 5 (i would say they is even worst than the Jails in P5 Strikers)

[@personacheese]

Completely agree with you, they definitely missed the mark on Okumura's palace; I'm yet to read a single comment from someone who ranked it higher than #5. I also can see where you're coming from with Madarame's puzzles, I thought they were okay but they're definitely better than some of the puzzles in other palaces 😄

[@monsoon1045]

MARUKI AND TOO EASY ARE NOT WORDS THAT SHOULD BE IN THE SAME SENTENCE

[@monsoon1045]

Apologies For Caps Im Very Sensitive on This Topic

[@personacheese]

hahaha I thought this might be a slightly controversial take 😅

[@victorresnov1168]

My personal list: 9.) Okumura 8.) Kaneshiro 7.) Mementos Depths 6.) Futaba 5.) Shido 4.) Kamoshida 3.) Madarame 2,) Sae 1.) Maruki

[@personacheese]

That's a great list my friend - I love seeing Sae's palace get the respect it deserves 😄

[@victorresnov1168]

@@personacheese I do have a question if you don't mind me asking. What are your thoughts on Mementos itself? (not the depths) I felt that even in Royal it was lacking good rewards, challenging enemies, interesting map design, etc. (I know it is randomly generated but I felt that Persona 3 and 4 had some nice randomly generated dungeons bit for whatever reason, Mementos kindof fell flat in comparison imo) I still like Mementos but it felt like a step down from Persona 3's Tartarus or Persona 4's dungeons.

[@personacheese]

@@victorresnov1168 I do agree that Mementos was a step down - they could have fleshed it out more to make it less repetitive than it currently is; fighting the same enemies while driving through very similar looking areas got pretty old fast. It's why I really enjoyed the Mementos/Real World palace, because it looked unique and contained a lot of variety.

[@victorresnov1168]

@@personacheese Absolutely agree. I think Mementos had the issue of not giving good rewards for looting chests and such as well as all the enemies being from palaces you have already beaten. You'll never face an enemy worth fighting in Mementos because there is nothing worth it down there. I think adding unique enemies to Mementos, preexisting enemies with unique attacks or abilities, and unique/useful loot could have made it better as well as having bosses spawn down there unrelated to requests. I think it could have been interesting if they had made the different sections of Mementos like different sections of the rail system. After all, in the cutscene of Mementos merging with the real world, you see Mishima look outside the train car over Tokyo. It would have been interesting to see the different sights they could have come up with since people do associate traveling with seeing the world but at the same time, I do understand why they made Mementos look like it does.

[@personacheese]

@@victorresnov1168 So true! If they had added something worthwhile down there, it would have justified better enemies and mini bosses. Hopefully they apply a more consistent approach to the story in areas like these (assuming they make a side quest section for P6) and add solid rewards to the area in future persona games :D

[@NinjaPickle]

9. Okumura (The clear weak point in every aspect of Persona 5. Weakest story arc, weakest villain imo, weakest Palace, most annoying puzzles, most annoying enemies at that point in the game, and 2nd worst music. I actually like the boss fight though, even if it's the hardest fight in the game) 8. Mementos Depths (Mainly for the actual depths part. Real world is awesome though short, but Depths is very slow and just feels like we're dragging along waiting for the Real World segment) 7. Kaneshiro (Sucks because theme wise, this is one of my favorites, I love heist stories. And Price is in my top 3 in the entire game for Palace themes. However, Kaneshiro is a weaker villain, the Palace feels a little too short, and the middle section drags a little. Boss fight is pretty good) 6. Madarame (Very similar to Kaneshiro to me, just slightly better in most aspects. I like Madarame a lot more as a villain, the story arc at this point in the game is really good, the Madarame fight is pretty good, I like the creative puzzles in the second half. But everything else just makes this the most middle of the road palace for me) 5. Futaba (God tier Palace theme. Seriously my favorite in the whole game. Enemies are a little annoying, and puzzles can get somewhat repetitive, but otherwise this Palace is great. I absolutely love the story arc of Futaba and I think the boss fight and palace layout are really good, I love how we're constantly ascending. But really this Palace ranks this highly soley because Days When Mother Was There is such a banger) 4. Shido (The moment we've been waiting for since the beginning of the game, the final showdown with the man who ruined our life and many of our friends lives as well. I love how this Palace shows off the strengths of nearly every Phantom Thief, and how we couldn't get this far without each of them helping us in some way. It really shows just how far the Phantom Thieves have come from a couple kids standing up to an abusive teacher all the way to stopping a man who threatens to destroy democracy in Japan and become one of the most powerful men in the world with absolute authority. The theme slaps, the boss fights are all fun, the layout is really nice and I love how we backtrack to explore new areas of the ship. Only downside to this one? I hate the mice puzzles. Otherwise, amazing) 3. Kamoshida (The one that started it all. I don't think people realize just how great of an opener Kamoshida's palace really is. Watching my girlfriend play through the game for the first time currently, and I'm realizing just how good this Palace is at setting you up for the rest of the game. There's good exploration, cool set pieces, enemies can be genuinely tough at the midway point, the puzzles are simple yet still good, the boss fight is a nice balance of challenge and teaching you lessons, the palace theme is a sleeper groove, and Kamoshida is just about the most perfect villain you could ask for, a man who is absolutely repulsive and you feel it in every moment of his disgusting castle. Honestly the motivation of "stop him before you get expelled" isn't even a factor, your main motivation while playing is to just straight up kill this man, mercy is too good for him. Fantastic starter palace, but simple because of it, putting it shy of the top 2) 2. Sae (There's a number of reasons they chose Sae's palace to be the prologue for the game, and one of them is just because this is by far and away the most eye catching and awesome atmosphere for a Palace. I love the art direction for this one, a prosecutor who plays with cases as if it's just a game to win, with the iconic imagery of the blind justice being a casino show-girl is so good. The theme is a banger, the puzzles are some of the most fun in the game, Akechi's inclusion in the story is great, and the boss fight is really good too. This palace never fails to make me smile) 1. Maruki (Suprise, the Palace that was the main selling point of Royal is the best one. Really cool and creative puzzles that actually make you think, fantastic palace theme, incredible story moments, and by far and away the best villain in the game, let alone one of the best villains in fiction. The fact that even to this day people are still arguing which ending is best for this game should tell you that alone. Maruki's ideologies are so strong that he even convinced real world people to believe his way is right. RIP Billy Kametz, you were fantastic as Maruki and I'll always remember the amazing performance you gave as him. Easiest top spot)

[@emmavanvelzen9890]

I really disliked kaneshiros palace. It felt 2 predictable and the puzzles were boring. I also thought the look of it was ugly which was a bummer cause the rest of the palaces were so beautiful and interesting

[@Yuji-automeris]

I am 17 seconds in. i am going to watch the rest, but i beg your pardon, you the maruki boss was easy(i think you imply azzatoth not adam kadmon) . even at level 99 and good personas and batton passing, i still died 15 times, but hey, maybe i got unlucky

[@malongdong7406]

Come to think of it... doesn't meruki kind of look like aizen from bleach

[@personacheese]

🤯

[@ReanXAlisa]

Nah bruh calling Maruki’s the worst? I’m done already sorry broski

[@personacheese]

I see my spoiler free thumbnail worked! In all seriousness though, don't worry, Maruki's isn't actually ranked as the worst hahaha 😅, I ended up ranking it very highly. I just put him in Sae in the thumbnail so that nobody would have my power rankings spoiled :)

[@ReanXAlisa]

@@personacheese 😱

[@Tarrian0]

WHY WASN'T SHIDOS FIRST

[@personacheese]

🤣🤣🤣

[@doriangrund04]

Icl my least favourite one was mementos

[@Tarrian0]

4:13 no

[@personacheese]

😅 hahaha fair enough

[@jccarbone6361]

Too easy too easy too easy too easy. You should crack up the difficulty

[@TheRealKaibaKingOfDuelMonsters]

Don’t care dint listen they are all gonna reveal the truth anyway 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Tarrian0]

Markukis is overated with a stale soundtrack

[@personacheese]

I could see the lab aesthetic getting a bit plain after a while, but I really enjoyed the music :)