The Haunting Mystery of Gauguin's Masterpiece (Waldemar Januszczak Documentary)

[@adamlane6453]

When it's Waldemar, it should be called something else. The other Perspective episodes pale in comparison. He deserves his own show.

[@joseffinat966]

Ja maar die show moet men iets te showen hebben zoals een masker 😷 of veren die men een voor een uittrekt ,moet ik misschien de Pauw spelen waar men die veren van kan bewonderen en al roepen zij Pauw Pauw ik ben mooier dan jij , zal ik met een vreemde geluid hun te kennen geven ook al is mijn vliegkunst vlak over de grond echt neerstorten is het niet 🦚 maar ben wel een en al oor 👂👈😂

[@miguelg1370]

Agreed

[@specteramber]

He doesn't have his own show?

[@secretshaman189]

Love Waldemar's commentaries, they are insightful, thorough, and his delivery is entertaining.

[@doreekaplan2589]

Add GREAT sense of humor, intelligence and fun personality

[@joseffinat966]

Een rare afbeelding lijkt op een soort olifant met stippen of is er een andere benaming ervoor afijn lijkt erop dat hij op een bot 🦴 kauwt maar ondanks de onduidelijkheid het is de mooiste kerkje die ik heb gezien zelfs de achtergrond muziek 🎶 paste er goed bij het ontroerde mij deze kerk niks geen tierelantijnen puur eenvoud zoals alles moest zijn eenvoudige wereld ,eenvoudige waarheid hoeveel tijd zou dat uitmaken op een mensenleven jammer Hè zoveel verspilling van tijd en tijd kost geld zegt men ,maar een hond wil het niet vreten maar ja je kunt moeilijk in deze tijd terug gaan naar andere methode als ruilmiddel,dus met de wortel van het kwaad zal het nog wel even duren maar of het ligt aan de Eury’s misschien moeten wij een andere naam bedenken misschien ook die uit het verleden DENARIUS dat is tot zover het duidelijkst de-nar-ius ( Een Nar zoals ik de harlekijn,de joker , het is een Romeinse zilveren of gouden munt ,die ook in de middeleeuwen werd gebruikt 😂 dank voor deze getoonde kerkje Waldemar ,ik was even een ommetje aan het maken maar ben weer bij de uitstekende les mijn dank 🙏

[@mikecottee2290]

❤probably the best, most educational, critical, and entertaining art doc maker.

[@aeronm9679]

What a great art story. The real location shots provide insight into Gauguin's thinking.

[@CoachAdamRuns]

Brilliant analysis and storytelling. I really enjoyed this. Thanks.

[@newgabe09]

Waldemar's wandering about has truly paid off with finding the right church :)

[@TraveisaBlue]

My favorite art historian.

[@Automobiliana]

Wonderful, touching episode

[@keybawd4023]

These talks are just wonderful. Full of information which is given in entertaining and thought provoking ways. I remember far more after watching a Waldemar documentary than after watching one from, say, The National Gallery. I think I have now seen all the Waldemar vidoes on KZbin and am going round for a second time.

[@joseffinat966]

Och sla mij niet over ,ik heb namelijk nog een paar appels 🍎 te schillen het zal je heugen 😂👉🤨👈😇👉😷zal aardig met je omspringen 😁

[@joseffinat966]

Zo teruglezende hou ik mij nog steeds aan mijn gezegde ( spring nog steeds aardig met iemand om ,vind je niet ?

[@ronnieparkerscott6223]

One of the best art docs made. Luv it!

[@JohnCBurzynski]

My favorite art historian....period.

[@fred4994]

Absolutely magnificent!!! Thank you!!!!

[@angusstewart3183]

Very informative and enjoyable. I liked Gaugin's painting so much that i painted my own copy.

[@edward2175]

Thank you, wonderful story of a great painting. Keep it coming teacher.

[@judyjudy51]

Brilliant. And that incredible chapel that inspired Gauguin.

[@amherst88]

His commentaries are *always* worth watching . . .

[@brunapixie5969]

Bravo, Waldemar, I'm enjoying your voice, your accent, your wit. Means a lot.

[@artywaldy1641]

Thank you Bruna.

[@BGTuyau]

Another fine entry in this great, informative series. Scholarship come alive! Thanks for posting ...

[@bzxshor67mpts]

Art history--love it and very well presnted

[@electr1crown]

"2 lovey dovey pears" This guy's descriptions always make me smile!

[@natlylyx6555]

Wow, this amazing, i like this kind of historical Story

[@markscott554]

I wish Waldemar had been my professor/lecturer while doing Art History at uni. I liked the ones I had, but his turn of phrase and fresh approach would have been awesome, especially going around Florence.

[@johnmorgan5495]

You should try Mathew Collings programmes kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZPLf5yAltSJpdk

[@kharishepard4269]

Sorry to be so offtopic but does anybody know a method to get back into an Instagram account?? I somehow forgot the account password. I would love any assistance you can give me!

[@majorkeanu3882]

@Khari Shepard Instablaster ;)

[@kharishepard4269]

@Major Keanu I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@kharishepard4269]

@Major Keanu it did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy:D Thank you so much, you really help me out!

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks so much for posting

[@MrTrongky]

A masterpiece presentation.

[@apollion888]

this borders on genius, just incredible

[@twiley3530]

Thank you!

[@michaelwanner1017]

Absolutely superb. Thank you

[@PONM123]

Thank you. I will never look at this painting as before.

[@joseffinat966]

Mooi zo ( niet meer doen 😇)

[@katarzynamuszynska5426]

Very interesting ,funny approachable ,colourful

[@matselik]

Very good story.

[@lisengel2498]

Great painter and an interesting story - I loved to watch the video

[@joseffinat966]

Ja het zal wel een portret zijn 🤪😍🙃🥰😋🤨🤩😩🥺😶😵‍💫😡😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamesjessica]

Fantastic!

[@helloschoales]

Another amazing doc

[@katarzynamuszynska5426]

Beautiful little church

[@Kontorgh_art]

This is awesome

[@terrianderson7088]

Wonderful, I hope you do more, you are a great teacher.

[@williamseymourjones9430]

So old Gauguin was 42 when he set off for Tahiti! There’s hope for me yet! Little late to the plate at 31 but perhaps my Nevermore or Two Tahitian Women is still hanging in the ranks!

[@joseffinat966]

Ja ja monnik ( even kijken waar mijn stok is gebleven 😇👉🤬)

[@katarzynamuszynska5426]

42 is not old !

[@katarzynamuszynska5426]

Women waiting for you everywhere You dont need to go as far to Thaiti

[@opinionday0079]

This is like a proper little movie

[@uraba624]

I loved this story so much, great job as always.

[@pierredarnis6521]

Merci.... 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤

[@selmakhattala103]

I think the choice of music was really great for this doc. Does anyone know where I could find the music played at the end?

[@susanmellups3207]

I agree. Especially the music in Brittany.

[@anthonypeters8714]

Excellent thanks

[@tedclemens4093]

Loved the way you tied things together. Meshes well into your video on Van Gogh, another spiritually conflicted man. Thank you. BTW, it wasn't the "tree of knowledge," it was the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil." There's a difference between just facts and information, and the placement of value.

[@venanziocalise946]

He was not spiritually conflicted ...he had a brain abscess near ear canal affected cognitive function and spread to the frontal lobe. Medical tragedy.

[@tedclemens4093]

@@venanziocalise946 Medical issues aside, the "spiritual" conflict was between reality and what they understood should be.

[@iansing5278]

TREE OF CONCIOUS AWARENESS? (what price apples?)

[@tedclemens4093]

@@iansing5278 Adam was already "aware." He distinguished the trees and named the animals. Good and evil speaks of a value range,. as in this is good and that is bad, or this has meaning, that does not. Sp when God made the world, he judged all that he saw, "good." After eating from the tree however, Adam and his wife were ashamed of what they saw (their nakedness). What one valued, the others did not.

[@akschmidt2085]

@@venanziocalise946 Or bipolar disorder/schizophrenia. But he was definitely not a well man. The ear surgery thing was TRAGIC it must have been so traumatizing to little van Gogh. Rough times.

[@debbiesunlight7047]

I’ve just realised I’ve been to that big stone. I feel so cultured now.

[@billyjosh9462]

Eww gross

[@debbiesunlight7047]

Billy Josh why gross.

[@andreysavin1931]

@@debbiesunlight7047 may be he means that just being to that place, and some time later realising that place has some cultural significance and you being there somehow makes you a cultured person is a bit arrogant and pompous. That's something that Americans would say. Especially the greatest president ever. IDK if you are one btw. You probably meant as a joke, but for me personally that kind of stuff I heard in the 9th grade in HS. Funny or not .....? At least you didn't say go ef your self. I guess that's good. But in reality who knows what he really meant.

[@joseffinat966]

Mooi hè zo’n hunebed op de Drentsche hei , zo cultureel-historische stapels keien gekomen met de ijstijd heel lang ge- leden 😔

[@joseffinat966]

@@debbiesunlight7047 nee niet vies maar advies echt de moeite waard deze cultureel historie te bekijken ,altijd vraag je ,je af hoe hebben zij die keien op elkaar gekregen ( hunebed zo heten zij echt dus niet verwarren met een gewone bed 🛌

[@youcancallmeana]

Great story. But it does strike me that though Gauguin did the "right thing" in France in 1888, after that he went to Tahiti and...

[@denniswinters3096]

It's a nice, heartwarming story, but nothing is mentioned about what Gauguin got up to later, in Tahiti, where he had four teenage mistresses, the youngest of whom was thirteen. One can't help wondering if he had regrets about what DIDN'T happen between himself and Madeleine ? Nevertheless, it's beautifully told by Waldemar, who's enthusiasm for his subject is irresistable.

[@OstblockLatina]

Jacob knew he was wrestling an angel (whom he called "Face of God") because he wrestled him to force him specifically to give him his blessing.

[@joseffinat966]

Die Engel heeft een 🧒🏻

[@AndrewHowesBounded]

Thanks

[@bhornannawindeedeigh5007]

I love your work, Waldemar. I learn so much. Someday, I hope to take your steps and view these works in person. How very beautiful - and haunting. Subscribed, dear sir. 💐

[@MickAngelhere]

Brilliant 👍

[@cheeiar]

Great!

[@TheJojoaruba52]

Brilliant…

[@decnijfkris3706]

At school Gauguin is only mentioned for his work in Tahiti. The rest we never heard of.

[@artywaldy1641]

And that was wrong!

[@joseffinat966]

@@artywaldy1641 ik zou zeggen 100 strafregels met ik hou van jou en dat honderd 💯 keer een makkie zou ik zeggen 🙀👈😂

[@emf3391]

There's a painting of two peasants young girls (sad facial expression) standing above top a hill, (i have a replica poster) Reluctant to say i am disappointed the authentic of this particular Gauguin's masterpiece, was not shown.

[@joseffinat966]

Het mooiste kerkje ( Ha ook mijn olifantje met stippen zijn er ,grappig want dat is een heel oud borduurwerkje en nu zie ik deze in het docu ,alleen er zitten er twee figuurtjes erop de derde dier met iemand erop denk ik is Jesus ,ik zal deze nog vaak terug zien ( geweldig Waldemar en team ( derde figuurtje rijd op een gele ezel / paard ,toeval bestaat niet ,ergens krijg je een blauwdruk mee in het leven toch denk ik en dat heb ik vaker gedacht ergens zit je in een patroon maar toch steeds weer iets anders uitgebeeld ,een hele vreemde gewaarwording = Gewaar is in wording ( en zo zit ik weer gekluisterd in al deze documentaire’s 😊😅

[@XX-gy7ue]

he was a genius , but more , he taught the world a new way to see

[@wardaledillard8553]

Waldemar, what happened to gauquin in Panama,when he worked on the canal?

[@prettytse7762]

WOW/// BRAVO//// #PERU&LIMA////

[@alanlawrence2954]

I think Gauguin gave the coquettish, spiritual Madeline copious fond kisses and left it at that. He loved her and her brother... and that made all the difference... Then again...

[@vaughangarrick]

Once I get past my prejudice for his yobbery, his documentaries are actually very good

[@veilbreak5867]

Vaughan Hamilton.....you think this fella's a yob? You are posh

[@1marcelo]

@@veilbreak5867 He is a total yob

[@rightweaponry908]

ok i thought i was the only one who found his need to over insert himself into the story quite annoying

[@debbiesunlight7047]

😆

[@sebastianverney7851]

. I agree. His grating voice, intrusive presence and mispronunciation of Gauguin as "Gauganne" seem to amount to some sort of aggressive inverted snobbery. Even the written text apparently deliberately mis-spells the name three times, "Gaugin".

[@catastrophictabitha9351]

In the painting with Jacob wrestling with the angel, what does the cow represent?

[@gabrielacasas2965]

I'm your biggest fan 💟

[@JohnSmith-zi3lv]

top!

[@jaydubya3698]

Thank you for this...that was super interesting. Gauguin was a great painter, one of my favorites, but as a person....yikes.

[@williamseymourjones9430]

Did you meet Gauguin? Did you talk to him? Have you painted anything close to his works? Very easy to talk trash about him on the internet without having met him when he’s not around to defend himself. Very big of you.

[@OriginalR69]

God forbid you give an opinion on his character.. be prepared to be ripped to shreds! ;)

[@andrewkilvert328]

jay dubya The Polynesians disagree with you, his two wives, their families, the island that refused the French occupation but welcomed him to come and die there.

[@jaydubya3698]

​@@andrewkilvert328 Hmmm. Well, after his marriage fell apart he did ditch his wife and 5 kids and eventually landed in Polynesia in 1891 where he would bang underaged girls (I know, I know...he went to "find the primitive" for his art and all that, but there's also this creepy little fact that when he was 42 in Tahiti he got 13 yr. old Tehaamana pregnant and abandoned her and his child in 1893). So make what you will of that.

[@andrewkilvert328]

​@@jaydubya3698 Unlike the French colonial authorities who were happy to impregnate their servants and then abrogate responsibility for the children, Gauguin MARRIED his first wife so in custom he is now related to all of the Polynesians on all of the Islands in Tahiti. This comes with responsibility, there are strict customary rules in tambu and kundere relationships. He built a house he took care of his wife which means he also took care of his other hundreds of Polynesian relatives. When he came back and his first wife took a look at the state of him she was happy to stay with her new man. At the end of his life he waged war with his pamphlets against the French colonial authorities and was welcomed as a hero on the most remote hardcore Island that refused French occupation. The fact that she was 15 and he was 40 or 42 is irrelevant, this was perfectly acceptible at the time and still is in many parts of the Pacific. The worst type of racist in my book is not your typical US MAGA hat wearing inbred but the type who have the utmost respect for indigenous culture when they are doing nice little dances for the tourists or making quaint artworks they can put in their houses so they can show their friends just how cool they are with indigenous people but when it actually comes down to the clan processes of marriage start moralising. We don't come to your leafy suburbs or council tenements or Alabama trailer parks and moralise at you about your culture or lack thereof.

[@philipstevenson5166]

It takes a catholic to know a catholic, and correct or not, it's a great story. Religion's stories lie on top of older traits. One suspects that Gauguin's saintliness was encouraged by firm disinterest from Madeline.

[@joseffinat966]

Dat zou maar dat is een veronderstelling beamen is weer iets heel anders dus denk wat men wil denken 💭 misschien was het van twee kanten desinteresse en leefden zij zo langselkaar

[@joseffinat966]

Langs elkaar

[@juanvelez8564]

The best painting by far of the subject is Pietro Ricchi's. But it is almost never referenced or seen.

[@1marcelo]

Pietro Ricchi is pretty bad

[@videoloopproject]

gauguin was a real genius

[@joseffinat966]

Ja WAS 🧺

[@OzarkBill]

I guess there's no need to mention his exploits with the young Madeleines in Tahiti? No biblical allegory that matches up with that?

[@2Hot2]

`Probably inspired by Waldemar's theory, I just noticed at 24:57 that the Breton coiffes form the rungs of Jacob's ladder, with Gauguin at the bottom and Madeleine at the top. I don't know why people think Gauguin was such a villain. Probably misled by the libelous Moon and Sixpence, which,. although never mentioning Gauguin or claiming to be an biography, had so many points in common with G's life that Maugham should have given a clear disclaimer.

[@joseffinat966]

Och en toch vond ik die lummels heel aardig ondanks die ene 📮📬mij behoorlijk kopzorgen gaf verdween zomaar van de radar met sigaretten 🚬 🚬 🚬 en al die dodo 🦤👈😹😾😼🙀😸

[@2Hot2]

@@joseffinat966 I wait 2 years for a reply and it's in Dutch??: Let's see:But I also really liked lazy bastards even though one of them gave me quite a headache, suddenly disappearing from the radar screen with the cigarettes and the [dodo = marijuana or money or what?]

[@joseffinat966]

@@2Hot2 stel jij je eens even aan ,net alsof je opeens alleen Chinees spreekt mag hoor maar ik weet jij spreekt gewoon koetjewaals met vaak ondeugdelijke woorden erin ik kan wel duidelijker aangeven maar voor gemoedsrust zal ik het maar niet doen en hoe gaat het met dodo goed hopelijk ,niet dat ik er nog wakker van lig maar altijd goed nog een stem of een kriebel te lezen van deze of gene 😃

[@2Hot2]

@@joseffinat966 Thanks for the proof that hash is still readily available in Amsterdam!

[@marie-joeleingalls1342]

Some believe that Gauguin cut Van High’s ear in a saber fight and that Vincent covered up for him. Also he slept with under age girls in Tahiti, different traditions there (allegedly). Nothing proven. Also he abandoned his wife and kids in DK.

[@miguelg1370]

Get waldy his own show!

[@levoy4ge]

amazing...thank you for revealing the truth about the yellow Christ

[@joseffinat966]

Ja heb ik weer een monnik- werk

[@Insolation1]

Where is the ( Gauguin: Symbolism's Problem Child (Waldemar Januszczak Documentary) | Perspective ) video, rather than this shortened version?

[@kurts4867]

let me revise ....the amount of ads are obscene.....

[@letaureau3622]

Next assignment Waldermar walks thru the Senate hearings & describes what he sees & hear about all these characters like Mitch McConnell

[@joseffinat966]

Of ik een misarabele geestelijk is zij aan geknaagd,doof, analfabeet, vrouwtje knudde, luiaard 🦥 nou de rest mogen zij invullen 😂😂🤪🙃😇ra ra hoeveel personen herbergt zij ???

[@nelsonx5326]

That was a great video. Love Gauguin. So he had a crush on Maddy, she was only 17, he behaved himself. That's refreshing. A lot of his paintings are sexy in a way, but innocent at the same time. The 'Two Tahitian Women', those chicks are hot!

[@leighfoulkes7297]

Lol, those Tahitian girls were around 14 years of age and he was married to them. Gauguin isn't someone you would admire as a person.

[@BlueInk912]

@@leighfoulkes7297 societal norms🔀

[@nelsonx5326]

@@leighfoulkes7297 I don't believe you. I would marry them in a heartbeat.

[@andrewkilvert328]

@@leighfoulkes7297 Why the moralising? As I mentioned to your comment above. Do you believe that because his 2 wives were non white that they and their families and clan members were stupid? Why do you assume they had no agency? Your comments are profoundly racist.

[@02skimmy]

Very authentic even more than Frenches But you've got to respect their own pronunciation, like of Pont Aven

[@leighfoulkes7297]

A 40 year old Gaugin was always into girls under the age of 18. I wouldn't be surprised if he did do something to her and I'm sure he wouldn't have regretted it but the girl would have.

[@andrewkilvert328]

I have lived and worked with Poynesians and Melanesian people all my life (I am now 53), so I have a pretty good understanding of people here and custom. Why do you you automatically assume that his 2 Polyneisan wives and their families, and their clans have no agency. Do you think that because they are not European therefore they are stupid?

[@joseffinat966]

@@andrewkilvert328 bestaan domme mensen ,nooit zo gedacht dus ook over deze mensen niet

[@myriamickx7969]

I deeply dislike Gauguin because, through his paintings, he gave the world a representation of all Polynesian young girls and women as easy and available for sex.

[@patriciapriscoe2760]

William Blake....please.

[@marcoscastillojaen1888]

G. Ese gran desconocido.

[@doggedout]

Having watched the full episodes on Gauguin, Van Goht, and Letrec, the lesson is: If you are an artist, - don't be born before the discovery of ...penicillin.

[@glindajenkins1505]

😂

[@scottaustin7237]

Where exactly does the Bible mention apples on the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

[@OzarkBill]

20:21???

[@joseffinat966]

Zo heb ik een poosje drie Franse meisjes begeleid om de route van huis naar school te laten zien ,want hun vader was van Nederlandse afkomst en hun moeder was van Franse afkomst,zo ging ik met hun kinderen in de bus naar school ( lagere school) alle drie namen weet ik nog een Madelene,Evelin en de jongste was choe choe was misschien een koosnaam,drie leuke kinderen maar de Franse taal Oh la la om je erin te verslikken heb hun niet zolang begeleid omdat ik de leeftijd had om van school te gaan naar voortgezet,heb hun eigelijk niet weergezien ( jammer)

[@stacywestly64]

Could you guys ease up on the ads? 6 in this 30-minute video.

[@artywaldy1641]

I agree!

[@Zeropadd]

😎

[@joseffinat966]

Wat kan Gods wegen toch vreemd verlopen ,maar twijfelen eraan NEE ,Dat was ook de vraag aan God wat is liefde en hij liet niet lang op zich wachten op zich vrij snel na die vraag ( misschien is het inderdaad op proef stellen,misschien vond God het een vreemde vraag en dat dat moet je nu toch wel weten,ik heb je altijd gedragen ,je uit het vuur gered is dat geen liefde je kon altijd bij mij terecht in moeilijke momenten en dan vraag jij wat liefde is en zoals gezegd liefde overwint altijd ,mensen beseffen het niet maar het gekke is dat in gevaarlijke situaties roept iedereen gelovig of niet OH MIJN GOD EN IEDEREEN VIERT KERST EN PASEN GELOVIG OF NIET IK ZOU ZEGGEN GOD IS ER ELKE DAG VOOR IEDER DIE HEM UITNODIGT IN ZIJN OF HAAR LEVEN 😊

[@vladsnape6408]

Choosing to wrestle with an angel makes no sense. If having human physical strength is supposed to prove something, then why even wrestle? Why not have a UFC style competition instead, where any form of inflicting damage is permitted? Do angels have testicles which can be kicked? If not, then I guess UFC rules would be unfair, and perhaps that is why wrestling was the chosen combat format.

[@katiekidman007]

WOW... You are amazing - Will you marry me. I love you!!! Katie

[@joseffinat966]

😝

[@annawhiteley3128]

Puzzled as to why Hawaiian language music when discussing Tahiti. They are two different places with two different languages...

[@artywaldy1641]

It's not Hawaiian Anna. I recorded the music in Tahiti!

[@salarrue78]

I hate how Western historians always regard ancient cultures (including their own) as "primititve". It's a brazen arrogant mindset and Mr Waldeman perpetuates that old, out of fashion belief.

[@drewcamero1489]

Kinda like good art. something about it is going to bother you. Because its not yours. But you will look and listen because you need something.

[@johnmorgan5495]

Waldemar , Im sending you some cream for your blistered/bunyoned sore feet

[@artywaldy1641]

Thank you!

[@joseffinat966]

Ik dacht al wat loopt hij moeilijk vast van hekje gevallen of iets anders wat zwaar weegt ( geweten) 😁iets wat ik nog niet weet zal wel een surprise zijn,hij houdt van kiekeboe spelletje

[@eleni1968]

Does anyone know if Gaugin's family were actually conversos; I had read that he was actually a Jewish Banker from Brazil.

[@imresimon6764]

from Peru

[@user-ls2fh6qr8q]

I read that he lost his job in a stock market crash of the time- deserted his wife and children.

[@joseffinat966]

Over wie hebben wij het nu , voor vrouw en kinderen heel erg tenzij het niet veel uitmaakte voor hun twee ,alles heeft een oorzaak en vaak door langere onvolkomenheden van en voor elkaar wat zich opstapelt

[@m.entera3196]

I like this series, but it's unwatchable because of all the commercials. Every 3.5 minutes. Too much. You've killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Unsubscribing, sadly.

[@huntrrams]

Get premium.

[@andrewdowney1654]

His name is spelled Gaughin.

[@arghyakamalghosh]

Gauguin

[@joseffinat966]

Ha heeft een zwakke plek ( bijt op zijn nagels ) Afz misarabel is mijn naam ( zo voel ik mij )

[@joseffinat966]

Ik denk dat men weer zijn oor heeft laten hangen naar wat men horen wil maar ik wil mij niet verdedigen voor iets wat niet is gebeurt dus daar zul je het mee moeten doen en weet je vind het zelfs amusant

[@gianfrancoardillo1690]

Traduzione in italiano grazie

[@ladybug5859]

First, I'd like to thank Waldemere for a very beautiful rendition of the early life of Gaugin. I have one question:is Gaugin a Spanish name or was he actually a converso and because he was Jewish he chose that name? Secondly, I have a comment: the way I read it is that he decided that within his own culture, for 40 year old man to consort with a 17 year old woman-child was unacceptable so he took off to another culture- the islands of Tahiti-in order to fulfill his lust with their children THAT'S just a fact. I guess it's a cynical fact but that's not my doing. THE truth lies in the facts. I believe there he fathered many children that he did not care for. He was a brilliant artist but that was his dark side: I guess the angel lost that battle.

[@artywaldy1641]

Gauguin was a French family name. It means walnut-grower. There are lots of Gauguins near Orleans. He wasn't Jewish or a converso.

[@carpediem1724]

He is one of the my favorite painter and he was not jew. ( Thank God). There are overrated and highly hyped Jewish painters that i know; Chagal & Rothko

[@akschmidt2085]

@@carpediem1724 I don't think the jewishness really enters into the overratedness (with you on Rothko btw) but you don't wanna be going blaming random unrelated factors. Otherwise someone might go "I hope your favourite artist isn't a white man. Most overrated artists are white men!" (Which they of course are, but not because being white and Male makes you inherently bad at painting but because other mechanisms are involved)

[@akschmidt2085]

He was a pervy bastard that's for sure. The times might be an excuse for a younger wife but Gaugin continuously sought out girls between 13-17, no women in the lot after his wife, it wasn't even an isolated incident. Undeniably a "pee dough"

[@andrewkilvert328]

His first wife was not 17 but 15 years old, as was was perfectly acceptable not only in Polynesian custom but in white custom at the time. His marriages were consensual and the only reason that I can see for your moralising like this is that he married 2 non white women. You are sounding very racist THAT's a fact.

[@ferociousgumby]

I don't get off on looking at the back of a bunch of hats. Especially not these.