Revelation or Rubbish? Lavazza Deséa Automatic Coffee Machine Review - Perth WAtch Suppl #32

[@dormer61]

Just used my machine for the first time I can say this is the closest I’ve come to shop coffee using a pod machine. Other pod machines I’ve owned never came up to my expectations, and that includes Nespresso, but this one surpasses them. Totally agree with this review and throughly recommend this machine. 5 ⭐️’s

[@PerthWAtch]

I agree - best capsule/pod coffee I’ve had!

[@BigDaddy3445]

Best machine and coffee I've had. And I've had pretty much all of them

[@sylviapage8572]

I have one of these coffee machines and I really like it. I always use the heat boost because I like my coffee a little hotter. I think it’s very easy to use and you get a really nice coffee without any hassle.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing the comment - agreed!

[@garydorrington2925]

is it hot or just warm

[@sylviapage8572]

@@garydorrington2925 I don’t have much milk in my coffee (about 2 tablespoons) and it’s perfect for me, I’d say hot. I think when I occasionally have latte or cappuccino it is also hot. I will try compare it to my cafetière and moka pot tomorrow and let you know the results. 😁

[@garydorrington2925]

@@sylviapage8572 thank you i appreciate your help

[@sylviapage8572]

All my coffee is made with extra heat. Americano black 73c, Americano with 2xtbs milk 64c, If you drink immediately I would say both are hot and with milk perfect for me. Large cappuccino 69c again hot and a bit hot to drink immediately in my opinion. Black filter made in my lacafetiere filter pot 82c. I hope that helps 😊.

[@rayquintanilla614]

Keeping me on my toes Ivan. Just when I thought I had this channel figured out, BANG! Good show!

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha thanks Ray... what can I say, I love my coffee :D

[@taekin9781]

Thanks for this great review! Theres reusable pods now where you vna use whatever beans you want. Its a win for the environment as well as your taste buds!

[@PerthWAtch]

Have you tried it? My concern is that because you have to pack the ground coffee in yourself, it might be impossible to achieve the same result as the retail pods. More likely it will be totally lousy… and hardly “a win for your taste buds” 😆

[@MrDianah2]

Great description I gave the machine, but, I am having trouble getting the descale light to go off after descaling.

[@PerthWAtch]

Mine goes off after letting the cycle run thru fully

[@sgc603]

My USA machine came with a broken water tank and that is about 4-5 weeks ago. The support at Lavazza USA is very, very slow and was told my request has been sent to the appropriate department. Still have yet to use my Classy Mini machine.

[@PerthWAtch]

That’s annoying! Shame on them!

[@cathyxiong8045]

Hi, for the long coffee, is it like the long black that you can buy in a cafe? Or is it very small like only 100ml? Thanks

[@PerthWAtch]

It’s like a small long black I would say, more than 100mL for sure.

[@sylviafrancis-mullins6532]

Would be good to know how to remove the used pods. And can one use reusable pods in this machine?

[@PerthWAtch]

The process of disposing used pods is very simple - just involves emptying the drawer. You can use reusable pods but it has to be the type designed for A Modo Mio machines.

[@triple5tar]

This review sold me. Thank you for your work.

[@PerthWAtch]

Most welcome!

[@natewest3287]

Nice video. What is the temperature of the 8oz cup of coffee? Can you control the temperature? Thank you!!

[@PerthWAtch]

I think it's aimed to do an optimal 65 degrees, but I haven't measured it. There is a temperature boost button, but nothing else you can do to adjust temperature.

[@teep1947]

hi excellent video, thank you so much. Is it possible to make an expresso and then separately froth some milk without putting in a capsule to make a macciato

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes absolutely, although there is a minimum amount you need to put in to allow the frothing attachment and steam wand to work on the milk… you would have to manually time this, and there would be quite a bit of wastage for a macchiato. One option is to use a metal jug to allow good timing - I might just try that! :)

[@teep1947]

@@PerthWAtch thx for the speedy reply, not sure I understand why I need a metal jug. I was thinking of just putting in a small amount of milk into glass jar, or are you saying just use a small metal jug to save waste. `How would I make the milk frothy as I assume the whisk part is a fitting made for the glass jar. Apologies if I am being dense

[@PerthWAtch]

You need a metal jug to time milk frothing properly - like you see baristas do in cafes. You could use this machines default milk froth timing but that would require >150ml of milk which would be massive waste if you’re just making a macchiato.

[@TedCornish]

Ivan how do I attach it to my wrist please? Lol being serious I'm a big coffee drinker so this was very useful to me thanks my friend 👍👍

[@PerthWAtch]

I just managed it using the power cord, but for best results needed to go around 3 times :D

[@unaraggionavera]

Thanks for the video, how do you make the temperature hotter. Can you keep pressing the temperature button?

[@PerthWAtch]

Most welcome - unfortunately no, the temp boost button is either on or off, you can’t make it hot beyond that.

[@unaraggionavera]

The coffee comes out warm. Perhaps using refrigerated milk doesn’t help.

[@seanbishop1964]

@@photostore Yep, works but kind of defeats the object of a 1 touch coffee maker and the problem should have been solved by Lavazza before launch with more milk heat setting options. Disappointing.

[@emmabloomfield9129]

Hi, do you know if once you press the increased temperature button if it stays on the next time the machine is turned on? Or do you have to remember to press it every time? I have the model before and the temperature button stays on.

[@PerthWAtch]

In this model you must press it each time - it lights up quite clearly so I never forget to press it when I want it.

[@tiddlesa.6125]

I fell in love with this machine as it was in my suite room on the Royal Caribbean ship. I’ve looked for the best price and about to purchase. Getting rid my old Aldi luke-warm pod machine right now! Thanx.

[@PerthWAtch]

Amazing, congratulations

[@dianeletcher2303]

Hi just wondering as I like 1/4 strength cappuccino how do I get the machine to make the amount I need

[@PerthWAtch]

I think you’d have to stop the espresso pour early... but that might mean quite a bit of wastage.

[@appliancedave69]

I’m on my second unit , the first unit was stuck on cleaning cycle now my second one is the same. Lavazza won’t help due to being out of warranty. Anyone else had or have this issue?

[@PerthWAtch]

I’ve not had this issue… is there a way to reset?

[@bronwynmaurer2174]

Does anyone know if any of the stainless steel reusable pods fit this machine.

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes I found some on eBay which was designed for this

[@russidordi1482]

How does the coffee quality compare with the quality of the coffee from a Magimix L'espresso which doesn't use capsules ?

[@PerthWAtch]

To be honest I wouldn’t know as I have never even heard of that Magimix machine.

[@russidordi1482]

@@PerthWAtch OK thanks for the prompt reply. Magimix are French. They are real sticklers when it comes to good food or drink.

[@MelchizedekKohen]

is the luke warm coffee with any milk added a deal breaker?

[@PerthWAtch]

Use the heat boost to get hotter coffee - some prefer it that way

[@dazpower1234]

Can you get spare mugs

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes you can

[@andyadam3620]

brilliant machine and great coffee, only issue is its not that hot on cappucino types. i run it once then again a second time stopping it about half time, when i get the right heat i want (other option is pre heat some milk in the microwave) i have tried all the others inc nespresso and i ended up giving them away, this makes the best coffee from any pod machine :)

[@PerthWAtch]

Yeah agreed - best pod coffee I’ve had :)

[@alantomlinson7795]

Every coffee machine will thank you for preheating the cup before commencing operations. That's why so many coffee shops store their china cups on top of the espresso machine.

[@phukyouu]

What if i want to make multiple cappuccinos, do i have to wait for someone to finish drinking out of the lavazza mug before making another one? I guess u can pour it into a standard mug but surely you would lose the froth.. good review btw

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that. Well if making multiple coffees I would put the mug I’m using under the machine, run the espresso shot, then froth the milk in the jar before pouring this into the mug. You could use the Lavazza mug and pour it out but you do lose more milk that way. Alternatively the Lavazza mugs are available for purchase if you want more than one. Cheers!

[@phukyouu]

@@PerthWAtch Thanks mate

[@Keep-on-ok]

@@PerthWAtch Where? I cannot find the spare mugs or frothers anywhere!

[@kristiansfoodnetwork7362]

You can purchase more glasses

[@PerthWAtch]

Yeah that’s what I said

[@antonymosley3109]

Had to put a small amount of milk in then press the large cappuccino to get a hot coffee otherwise it’s lukewarm. After a while it does seem to catch up but if you follow these instructions expect a tepid cappuccino. The frothing system is so much better than the usual. No trying to remove baked on milk from the steamer. You can’t set the amount of coffee dispensed on the milk coffee side but you can take the top off the jug and add extra from the pod later.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing those thoughts - you have some good tips there!

[@johndoherty431]

Hi do you know how many mls of coffe/milk you get in the large cappuccino?

[@PerthWAtch]

Not totally sure but I estimate about 300mL

[@johndoherty431]

Perth WAtch thanks im considering this machine or the Nespresso vertuo for the mug option but the Nespresso has very bad reviews for leakage issues after a few months and stores seem to have very limited stock so I think an upgraded version may be on the way

[@PerthWAtch]

Fair enough - honestly I have never had a Nespresso coffee which I liked, so it was surprising to me that this machine produced fair coffee from those pods which I could be happy to drink!

[@Keep-on-ok]

I ordered one of these but I cannot get them to ship it!

[@PerthWAtch]

Order from someone else!

[@Keep-on-ok]

I finally received it!

[@PerthWAtch]

Amazing!!

[@garydorrington2925]

i like hot coffee is this machine good for making a really hot coffee

[@PerthWAtch]

Steamed milk is supposed to be at a certainly temperature range… 65-70 degrees. So actually a “really hot” coffee is generally a bad coffee. The way to make it hotter without making it bad is to add your own boiled water - that way you can make it to your preference. Oh the other hand if your just referring to black coffee, then knock yourself out - add as much hot water as you want.

[@asinclair2492]

I got this today and made scalding hot cappuccinos from the get go, even without temp boost

[@aearly841]

Hi Ivan, have you descaled your machine yet? I got the descale warning light, tried to put it into descale mode as per the online tutorial but it isn’t happening. Any tips would be greatly appreciated

[@PerthWAtch]

Not sure what online tutorial is that - I used the manual (you can download it) directions and it worked fine

[@aearly841]

@@PerthWAtch kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnO9aKGvndqrm80 Probably got a dud machine

[@PerthWAtch]

Sorry to hear that mate!

[@Keep-on-ok]

I am using distilled water in mine.

[@PerthWAtch]

Would be interesting to know if you still have to descale

[@stevehack5541]

Where do you purchase a Lavazza MODO M10 or at least one of their Machine that uses milk and coffee? I've tried everywhere including the Lavazza. - Thanks Steve Hack

[@PerthWAtch]

This machine uses milk and coffee - did you check out my links?

[@JohnSmith-ms3wb]

Excellent review. Thank you.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thank you for that John! :)

[@WillAH956]

Does this machine take nespresso pods?

[@PerthWAtch]

No - it’s for Lavazza a Modo Mio pods

[@WillAH956]

@@PerthWAtch thank you also I don't like the fact you only have one cup if you have visitors you need to pour out the coffee into another cup not really practical

[@PerthWAtch]

Well actually I have two cups - you can get as many as you wish. And for black coffee you don’t need the milk steamer extension so you can use any cup.

[@Creationzonline]

Very informative and well presented.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks :)

[@darealdmn7]

Really good review, very informative!

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks - glad it was helpful :)

[@hotwheels1112]

is the cup difficult to take in and out, ?i had the Fantasia and after a few weeks, the lid got jarred in the machine but the cup part came away with hot milk in it, and when i sent it back it could not be repaired. i loved the coffees but decided to get a Tassimo after that experience, which I really regretted, i'd love another Lavazza with coffee machine and frother combined to save space, but would worry about the same thing happening.

[@PerthWAtch]

Hmm interesting conundrum... I can see how that might happen, the lid needs to engage firmly with the machine as the steam is directed through a nozzle there. Taking it out I mainly focus on disengaging the lid itself, rather than pulling on the mug - so far so good!

[@Alexander_l322]

Look at the lavazza website I think they have a machine with a separate milk frother.

[@margarettooley9560]

Love mine so convenient and does not take long

[@PerthWAtch]

It is awesome!

[@broken_fence9675]

looks like it's not compatible with nespresso pods...

[@PerthWAtch]

Most definitely not

[@DefinitiveMedia22]

Dose this take Starbucks Frappachino Capsules? , If not, can you reccomend a good one that dose? Great review btw

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for the comment! It doesn’t matter what brand the capsules are - the main thing to look at is what capsule type it is (most commonly Nespresso). This one uses A Modo Mio capsules.

[@papabear66]

I had to do a double take. What the? Coffee machine? Surely with a built-in watch?

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha sorry, this wasn’t supposed to be published to your feed but I guess it still snuck in! Sadly these don’t have built in clocks...

[@Keep-on-ok]

I only got one milk frother. I would like a spare frother jar. They have been out of stock for 6 months now. I got my machine directly from Lavazza.

[@PerthWAtch]

Oh how curious! I can buy extra cups anytime from my local home appliance store where I got this (The Good Guys).

[@Keep-on-ok]

@@PerthWAtch I’m in the USA. We can’t get them here. I see they are in Australia but will not ship to USA.

[@PerthWAtch]

Any on eBay?

[@Keep-on-ok]

@@PerthWAtch nope

[@kenwood3914]

Hey mate great review. Do you think you could get away with using a different cup about the same size, or does it have to lock in perfectly and you have to use the provided one? Having used those stick fro there I would’ve thought you could. Cheers.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for that mate... yeah in fact I have tried used a similar sized large mug and it works ok. Guess it might depend on the precise shape whether any milk spills out but the frothing and steam will function.

[@mohamedel-belghiti9775]

Prix machine

[@PerthWAtch]

What?

[@lisarodgersusa]

So helpful thank you!

[@PerthWAtch]

Most welcome :)

[@mgapps5177]

Awesome review 👍

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks :)

[@danielfiore5899]

Luv it. Does the job

[@PerthWAtch]

Sure does :)

[@marisarouillon371]

hello Perth Watch Do they make hot chocolate and mocha too?

[@PerthWAtch]

Hi there, unfortunately no. They have a couple of tea type capsules, but presently no chocolate or mocha.

[@marisarouillon371]

Perth WAtch ok thanks what kind of coffee machine that makes hot chocolate and mocha

[@PerthWAtch]

@@marisarouillon371 Well AFAIK Nespresso compatible pods represent the widest range of choices and they definitely have mocha and chocolate options. There are a huge range of machines that use Nespresso pods.

[@marisarouillon371]

@@PerthWAtch thanks what is AFAIK means sorry?

[@PerthWAtch]

@@marisarouillon371 Common online abbreviation - "as far as I know"

[@timleewm]

Great review!

[@PerthWAtch]

Thank you :)

[@noelmurphy3450]

Thanks for the review Ivan..... By getting this does this mean you can skip the waiting list for a Rolex Pepsi GMT? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😅🤣😅🤣

[@PerthWAtch]

Oh if only, Noel... if only! ;)

[@noelmurphy3450]

@@PerthWAtch Nice thought though😃😃😅🤣

[@g00dfeeling]

I think that differences among various capsules is not too big because Lavazza is proper coffee. i don't like when other brands are using hazelnut or any other false tastes and sweeteners as then it is not proper coffee. Diversity with Lavazza could be achieved with various kind of milk, for example it is totally different taste when you use soy or almond or coconut milk.

[@PerthWAtch]

How do you know it’s “proper” coffee?

[@g00dfeeling]

@@PerthWAtch Just compare it with Doce Gusto where you loose coffee taste beasuse of the different added flavors. For me Lavazza Mondo Mio is the closest to coffee from a coffee bar, even more than 80%

[@PerthWAtch]

Ah very interesting!

[@briancolyer8483]

Another great review brother, I'm a tea chap so this ones not for me....but it does seem to be the business, I'll forward a link to my brother he's a coffee nut....

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha thank you for that :)

[@robynwilliams460]

Thank you

[@PerthWAtch]

Welcome

[@jay5112006]

Just bought mine for £1 the machine.. Got load if capsules with it lovely coffee

[@PerthWAtch]

£1!?

[@shaunsims7570]

@@PerthWAtch supposedly that's the deal if you subscribe with lavazza.

[@carlw8072]

That’s what I’ve just done, machine for a £1, you’ve to buy 10 packs coffee pods at almost £6 each, you’ve to do that 8 times, but if your already buying the coffee it’s a no brainier really, you can set your frequency, mine come every 8 weeks.

[@PerthWAtch]

Ah ok… so £481 for the machine and 80 packs (1280 pods) of coffee?

[@carlw8072]

@@PerthWAtch yes

[@antrich7377]

I love that machine

[@PerthWAtch]

Me 2 :)

[@mandyl7777]

I had looked into this and the Classy Plus. I almost purchased but I didn’t like that I would be unable to return it after trying it out. I have purchased other machines by Nespresso that the coffee made me sick so I had to return it and had no issues. I don’t want to be out 300 dollars if I hate the machine and or the coffee :(

[@PerthWAtch]

Totally understand - perhaps you could find a store that might make demo coffee for customers to try?

[@UnitBeerMonsta]

Just ordered this for the second time lucky (good guys geto useless) from Harvey Norman so hoping to get it soon!! Cannot wait for this as we are paying $6.69 (thats no bs) for a 750ml dare iced coffee !!!

[@PerthWAtch]

“Geto useless”??

[@JuliexSteadman]

Any thoughts on how this would compare with say the De'Longhi Magnifica, Bean to Cup Coffee Machine, ESAM 4200.S I currently grind my beans and just use a cafateire.... and Monsoon Malabar is my favourite tasting type coffee.... I have a friend married to an Italian who says stay away from pod machines and she recommends the DeLonghi above... However I reckon that that pod machine would be adequate for me as Im not that particular about my coffee.. ....in fact i have only just moved away from instant coffee, used to buy Nescafe Costa Rica.... ...in light of that, any thoughts on whether this pod machine would do, I am looking for speed.... the De'Longhi looks more fiddly... ..and im not sure im going to really notice the difference...

[@PerthWAtch]

Hi Julie - I don't have any direct experience with the DeLonghi ESAM 4200 model but based on experience I would expect that a machine which grinds beans on the spot should certainly produce a better espresso than a capsule machine. It's all well and good to say "stay away from pod machines" but that is making some gross assumptions that you're most interested in espresso quality regardless of the effort, maintenance, and time it would take. I think if espresso quality is the priority then you would get a separate quality grinder, and a good manual machine. I used to do that with a Sunbeam EM6910 but got tired of the time it took to do things, and the cleaning involved. Now, back to the DeLonghi you pointed out... I think the questions I would have are about maintenance (what do you have to do to keep it clean and running well? are you prepared to do that?) and also the performance of the mild steamer - that type doesn't tend to do it very well, so if milk result is important to you, that may make or break it. This Lavazza I feel is very low maintenance, very quick and quiet, and also gives a much better espresso than any Nespresso pod I've tasted, whilst also giving very fair steamed milk result. Hope that helps!

[@dazpower1234]

Love you buddy

[@PerthWAtch]

That’s a first ❤️

[@dazpower1234]

Lol

[@Therealneiljames]

Don’t break the glass beaker as the machine is only good for espressos after that. Also mine will not enter-p descale mode, so the warning light is on all the time

[@PerthWAtch]

I can buy extra or replacement glass mugs here.

[@heezergeezer]

Well presented review. This replaces the fantasia by Lavazza which is no longer available. Problem 1.) What happens if you don't like drinking out of the glass mug provided? - I don't! Problem 2.) From the above - you have to pour the whole lot into your favorite cup thus losing the effect and some of the composition of the made coffee. Problem 3.) If that seems a pernickity critic, what happens when you have friend/ friends round for coffee? You have to do the above in problem 2 - there is no choice! - what a lot of faffing about! Problem4.) Okay - you accept all that, but hey, one day you break your glass mug! It happens! and its not like you can just go and buy another down the Hardware store/supermarket/shop - there is just one provider - Lavazza! and that would be at the online company at their pre-determined cost.- like it or lump it I have been on UK Lavazza website and they are 15 GBP guys!!!! Problems solved my end - I will not be buying into this machine, sticking to my old Fantasia and then looking at another alternative when it finally expires.

[@PerthWAtch]

1. You can find an alternative cup or mug that can sit under the frothing device - it has to be large enough to accomodate the milk spinning around however. 2. See 1. 3. You can either get more of the glass mugs, or see 1. 4. See 1. :)

[@ahmetkrom]

so what happens when you pour that into a cup. you lose the presentation. what if you want 2 or 3 cups you need 2 or 3 of tose glass cups . doesnt seem hugely practical to me or maybe ı am missing something

[@PerthWAtch]

Sheer practicality would do away with presentation - the taste doesn't change in a significant way after pouring it into another cup. If you're concerned about presentation... well you can buy extra Lavazza mugs for $20 each. Why do you think having more of those would not be "hugely practical"? In any case, better yet use a manual machine if you want better presentation!

[@Giuvince]

Cioccolato?

[@PerthWAtch]

Not sure... I think they do but I’ve not tried it

[@lynnbeggs9563]

What? glass mug for milk frothing? I have 2 lavazza coffee machines and didn't get a glass milk frother in either one! 😱 I had another lavazza coffee machine before the modo mio ones which I must admit I preferred by far, easier to clean and fill, the modo mio being reviewed here is not as user friendly as the first model with its seperate milk frother and the model I had (the second one) was a hassle because the frothing jug couldn't be submerged in water for cleaning! I want one of the glass frother jugs, which should be a gratis included in the purchase, but I will be buying it when possible! 👍

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for your comment. Why do you say this is not as user friendly?

[@bondjames7007]

Reading other reviews on other sites - lot of problems with Lavazza a modo mio machines. I have used numerous models for over 25 years…they have a short life span. My last machine was 15 months old leaking & coffee dripping out very slow….I have always Descaled same problem. I rang Lavazza Customer Service in Melbourne, told the woman my problem. She said All Lavazza Coffee Machines are not repairable - & to throw away….in Land Fill. I noticed each Model has been made by different Companies over the years. Simplex was made by Saeco…then from memory Philips made the Machines, so did Electrolux. I hate throwing away Products that can’t be ‘recycled’. The Coffee is wonderful but be prepared to spend money - the machines are not built to last…

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing - sorry and disappointed to hear that. I guess I am thankful mine has lasted nearly 3 years!

[@margarethill5836]

My daughter has a Lavazza Jolie pod machine with milk frothier. As the water capacity is small thought I would buy her the Desea for an early Xmas present as the water capacity is so much better. By the look on any sites I looked at the milk looked really frothy but I’m sad to say that themilk frothier is VERY disappointing in comparison to the milk frothier on the Jolie. That is what I mean. Not anywhere near what happens with the Jolie, sorry I bought it.

[@PerthWAtch]

Ah ok I see... thanks for sharing. Good to know the Jolie has a better frothing result.

[@bellawebb4813]

The froth isn’t very deep ...

[@PerthWAtch]

Can use the boost function to make it deeper

[@dianedaley5459]

Lava a dress long coffee

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes?

[@LoruSS2]

Куплю)) 🎉

[@PerthWAtch]

What

[@pawprintsjersey5787]

Nope didn't work instructions are not explained well. 😢

[@PerthWAtch]

What didn’t work?

[@pawprintsjersey5787]

@@PerthWAtch how to put switch on left for coffee, I can work whole machine but how to get coffee out just coffee?

[@pawprintsjersey5787]

@@PerthWAtch coffee not coming out why?.thanks

[@PerthWAtch]

To get just coffee out without milk froth, put a cup under the outlet but don’t use the black milk frothing extension

[@margarethill5836]

Find milk frothier less than average, Very Disappointing, 😢 would not recommend this model ☹️☹️☹️

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for sharing. But what do you mean by “average”? If you mean manual steam wands, well it’s definitely no comparison, not sure any auto can compare.

[@bollxd]

Rubbish i have one and the coffee is rank

[@PerthWAtch]

Rubbish. I have one and it’s fine - better than any Nespresso